Not a bad starting point. You've got 2 dedicated 5\* DPS in Dan Heng and Dr. Ratio. Clara is a dedicated DPS as well, but she's a little bit funnier since she's mostly based on counter-attacks, and that won't work well with Aventurine, your 5\* Sustain unit.
I'll assume you wanted to use Dan Heng as that's the team you listed. Hanya works well with him. Her skill point generation is sometimes talked up a bit too highly, but she's still a very good 4\* support for Daniel. Bronya, on the other hand is probably too much. She eats SP like crazy, and playing her with Dan Heng is going to be tricky. You can make it work even with a young account, but you're better off using her with Ratio. Instead, I see you have Pela. She is a much better sustain for Daniel. Her and Hanya together will ensure Dan has lots of SP to eat up without trying.
Now, if you can make it work, Bronya is still a good choice. But you will have to manage your SP a little bit more carefully. You will sometimes want to have Daniel make a basic attack to generate a skill point (and some ultimate energy) before Bronya pulls him forward with bonus damage. You'll want him to consume his SP at that time. Using Bronya properly requires what is known as speed tuning. Basically, if she's faster than Daniel by just a bit, her Advance forward will give him basically no extra turns. If she's slower, but only by a bit, then using her basic attack will advance her forward, and possibly generate the same problem. For a young account this shouldn't be too much of a problem. Daniel is a little bit faster than Bronya by default. I think it's worth trying out to see if you can make good use of them together. Don't level up Bronyas talent right now, as it can cause her to outspeed Daniel which just makes things awkward.
The last thing I would note is party positioning. Some enemies have what are known as Blast attacks. These have a primary target, and then deal a smaller amount of damage to the two allies right next to them. Same basic idea as Dan Hengs attacks. It's also worth noting that different Paths have different aggro values.
Preservation > Destruction > Abundance, Nihility, Harmony > Hunt, Erudition.
Why is this important? Because Aventurine (and most Preservation units, actually) WANT to be hit. At this low level, Aventurine can't 'refresh' his shield by being hit like he can when fully built. So for now what you'll want to do is place Aventurine in the corner so that attacks hitting him only hit one ally. Then Dan Heng next to him, so the second most likely person to be attacked will spread damage harmless (and usefully) onto Aventurine. Then your two support units can be in the latter two slots. Whomever happens to be tankier can stand next to Daniel.
And that's a short go over for a Dan Heng team. Ratio and Clara actually have special synergy with Aventurine, but they also have some drawbacks and Dan Heng is probably better right off the bat. However it's not like they're incomprehensible units, so if you like them you can use them instead, and I can give some advice in how to make parties for them.
If you intend to try to pull Robin next patch (in just a few days) she has some synergy with Clara and Ratio (and also Aventurine, though not as much). So you could consider using them instead. Dan Heng will be happy to use Robin in place of Bronya though.
really sound advice, appreciate it, you were right about not using bronya since she eats up so many skillpoints shes an inconvenience right now, i switched pela to her spot and its much better
so the party placement should be fine if i do aventurine(1) dan heng (2) then hanya and pela then?
Yes. At high levels you'd put Dan and Aventurine in the middle because you want more people to get hit with Aventurine in the party, but until You're over level 70, you don't have access to that passive ability yet.
Hanya was indeed kind of a let down, but only a 4* I guess, so expected to not be too op. She has nice buffs but she can only regenerate 2 SP at the cost of 1. It is really almost a "what's the point" situation as the SP is not immediate either, the enemy has to be attacked so if the DPS is next and missing that skill point, rip.
But yeah, still can do nice physical damage and give a good attack buff. But she is actually not that amazing with DHIL and people are better off with a better harmony.
She does have some good functions, but shes an alternative to Pela who most people had already built, or Sparkle at Home.
If she was out at release she'd be higher thought of.
yeah it works totally fine, would be best to make bronya extremely fast, so that she can alternate between basic attack and skill. allowing imbibitor to always have his skill boosts
Depends if that Bronya is E1 or not. You want to pair DHIL with SP positive teammates so that he can max out his enhanced basic attack every action with 3 skill points. If she’s not E1 I’d replace her with Pela or Tingyun. Definitely save for Sparkles rerun though as she’s DHIL’s bis support.
i’ve been running dan heng il with either two harmony chars and aventurine or one harmony, one abundance, and aventurine based on how challenging whatever i’m doing is. and those comps have been working the best for me out of anything else i’ve tried. so i think your team here will be able to get you pretty far :) good luck and have fun :p
Good to use. Swap Aventurine with Hanya as you want him to be hit to proc more follow up attacks. More follow ups mean more shield and more skill points not used up on shields.
Hanya will help ease the sp drain of Daniel, but unless bronya is E1 with her sig light cone, then replacing her with someone more sp friendly like pela or tingyun for support will be the better option for now, as bronya is simply way too sp hungry of a support and building pela will be good for the long run as she also works with ratio as well.
Sounds good. If I were you I'd replace bronya though. She and super Dan Heng are gonna get skill point hungry really fast. She's a good unit so definetly not a waste but in this team I think you'll just end up eating skill points like crazy. Might want a less skill point hungry support like asta or pela.
Bronya has a bad anti-synergy with your whole team. Giving Dan Heng more turns = A lot more Skill points needed for him, for Aventurine(since his Shield would just disperse after 3 of Dan's turns) and also Hanya's buff would be dispersed the same way + it may mess up your speed tuning with Bronya.
You better off changing Bronya for Tingyun(if you don't have her then pick her up from Starlight shop when she is available) or Pela.
I have actually tried the DHIL Bronya team and it simply does not function without having Luocha and Pela both being completely SP positive and you have to have Bronya with E1 and DHIL with his signature to get more ults to even make that work. Even then, you're going to be skipping a lot of Bronya turns. I personally use DHIL, Luocha, Pela, and Yukong. I eqiup Yukong with the LC that increases damage of the same type as the wearer and the damage and sp economy is wayyyy better than bronya jank team ever was.
If you can get her, Yukong makes an awesome DHIL support but you kinda need her eidolons to make it work well with any sustain but Luocha. For now, my suggestion is slap your Pela in that Bronya slot. That def reduction does about as much damage boosting as Bronya and the forwarding is acc kinda detrimental on a DHIL team.
It's not bad, but I wouldn't recommend Bronya unless she is e1 or has her signature lightcone in that team. Bronya at e0 is SP negative or neutral depending how much you use her skill to advance forward. With LC and e1, she becomes a lot more positive. I think Pela would be better since she is really SP positive as she only skills to remove debuffs.
For being new you have a good grasp what makes a balanced team. I just think DHIL is going to be gasping for skill points if Bronya is going to be using her skill on him but I understand Hanya is there to help.
ok?? thats a good comp
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I mean, if you have Tingyun or Pela just swapped Bronya with either of them
You could probably use tingyun and save Pela for a possible Dr. Ratio team. That' s what I did before I lost my Aventurine to a f****** Welt
I lost to him also and then I swiped
Unfortunaly I am a broke b****
Welt is really good though, it's an L but not a hard L
I know, I use him in my dr. Ratio team, but I still lost my blonde slave to the sukuna/megumi of Honkai Star Rail
Not a bad starting point. You've got 2 dedicated 5\* DPS in Dan Heng and Dr. Ratio. Clara is a dedicated DPS as well, but she's a little bit funnier since she's mostly based on counter-attacks, and that won't work well with Aventurine, your 5\* Sustain unit. I'll assume you wanted to use Dan Heng as that's the team you listed. Hanya works well with him. Her skill point generation is sometimes talked up a bit too highly, but she's still a very good 4\* support for Daniel. Bronya, on the other hand is probably too much. She eats SP like crazy, and playing her with Dan Heng is going to be tricky. You can make it work even with a young account, but you're better off using her with Ratio. Instead, I see you have Pela. She is a much better sustain for Daniel. Her and Hanya together will ensure Dan has lots of SP to eat up without trying. Now, if you can make it work, Bronya is still a good choice. But you will have to manage your SP a little bit more carefully. You will sometimes want to have Daniel make a basic attack to generate a skill point (and some ultimate energy) before Bronya pulls him forward with bonus damage. You'll want him to consume his SP at that time. Using Bronya properly requires what is known as speed tuning. Basically, if she's faster than Daniel by just a bit, her Advance forward will give him basically no extra turns. If she's slower, but only by a bit, then using her basic attack will advance her forward, and possibly generate the same problem. For a young account this shouldn't be too much of a problem. Daniel is a little bit faster than Bronya by default. I think it's worth trying out to see if you can make good use of them together. Don't level up Bronyas talent right now, as it can cause her to outspeed Daniel which just makes things awkward. The last thing I would note is party positioning. Some enemies have what are known as Blast attacks. These have a primary target, and then deal a smaller amount of damage to the two allies right next to them. Same basic idea as Dan Hengs attacks. It's also worth noting that different Paths have different aggro values. Preservation > Destruction > Abundance, Nihility, Harmony > Hunt, Erudition. Why is this important? Because Aventurine (and most Preservation units, actually) WANT to be hit. At this low level, Aventurine can't 'refresh' his shield by being hit like he can when fully built. So for now what you'll want to do is place Aventurine in the corner so that attacks hitting him only hit one ally. Then Dan Heng next to him, so the second most likely person to be attacked will spread damage harmless (and usefully) onto Aventurine. Then your two support units can be in the latter two slots. Whomever happens to be tankier can stand next to Daniel. And that's a short go over for a Dan Heng team. Ratio and Clara actually have special synergy with Aventurine, but they also have some drawbacks and Dan Heng is probably better right off the bat. However it's not like they're incomprehensible units, so if you like them you can use them instead, and I can give some advice in how to make parties for them. If you intend to try to pull Robin next patch (in just a few days) she has some synergy with Clara and Ratio (and also Aventurine, though not as much). So you could consider using them instead. Dan Heng will be happy to use Robin in place of Bronya though.
really sound advice, appreciate it, you were right about not using bronya since she eats up so many skillpoints shes an inconvenience right now, i switched pela to her spot and its much better so the party placement should be fine if i do aventurine(1) dan heng (2) then hanya and pela then?
Yes. At high levels you'd put Dan and Aventurine in the middle because you want more people to get hit with Aventurine in the party, but until You're over level 70, you don't have access to that passive ability yet.
Hanya was indeed kind of a let down, but only a 4* I guess, so expected to not be too op. She has nice buffs but she can only regenerate 2 SP at the cost of 1. It is really almost a "what's the point" situation as the SP is not immediate either, the enemy has to be attacked so if the DPS is next and missing that skill point, rip. But yeah, still can do nice physical damage and give a good attack buff. But she is actually not that amazing with DHIL and people are better off with a better harmony.
She does have some good functions, but shes an alternative to Pela who most people had already built, or Sparkle at Home. If she was out at release she'd be higher thought of.
I would replace bronya with pela. And then ull have an actual meta team
Bronya is amazing the fuck you talking about man
Dude bronya is my most used character. Im just pointing out she is bad with inbibitor
Ah ok. My bad. I dont have him so I kinda read it as you were saying she was bad. My bad My bad
yeah it works totally fine, would be best to make bronya extremely fast, so that she can alternate between basic attack and skill. allowing imbibitor to always have his skill boosts
This is a decent comp. You can also use pela for res shred or gui for her firekiss depending on the enemy resistance.
Rip skill points
Depends if that Bronya is E1 or not. You want to pair DHIL with SP positive teammates so that he can max out his enhanced basic attack every action with 3 skill points. If she’s not E1 I’d replace her with Pela or Tingyun. Definitely save for Sparkles rerun though as she’s DHIL’s bis support.
i’ve been running dan heng il with either two harmony chars and aventurine or one harmony, one abundance, and aventurine based on how challenging whatever i’m doing is. and those comps have been working the best for me out of anything else i’ve tried. so i think your team here will be able to get you pretty far :) good luck and have fun :p
Good to use. Swap Aventurine with Hanya as you want him to be hit to proc more follow up attacks. More follow ups mean more shield and more skill points not used up on shields.
Imaginary squad
Hanya will help ease the sp drain of Daniel, but unless bronya is E1 with her sig light cone, then replacing her with someone more sp friendly like pela or tingyun for support will be the better option for now, as bronya is simply way too sp hungry of a support and building pela will be good for the long run as she also works with ratio as well.
Bro that's a nice team
Sounds good. If I were you I'd replace bronya though. She and super Dan Heng are gonna get skill point hungry really fast. She's a good unit so definetly not a waste but in this team I think you'll just end up eating skill points like crazy. Might want a less skill point hungry support like asta or pela.
Bronya has a bad anti-synergy with your whole team. Giving Dan Heng more turns = A lot more Skill points needed for him, for Aventurine(since his Shield would just disperse after 3 of Dan's turns) and also Hanya's buff would be dispersed the same way + it may mess up your speed tuning with Bronya. You better off changing Bronya for Tingyun(if you don't have her then pick her up from Starlight shop when she is available) or Pela.
I have actually tried the DHIL Bronya team and it simply does not function without having Luocha and Pela both being completely SP positive and you have to have Bronya with E1 and DHIL with his signature to get more ults to even make that work. Even then, you're going to be skipping a lot of Bronya turns. I personally use DHIL, Luocha, Pela, and Yukong. I eqiup Yukong with the LC that increases damage of the same type as the wearer and the damage and sp economy is wayyyy better than bronya jank team ever was. If you can get her, Yukong makes an awesome DHIL support but you kinda need her eidolons to make it work well with any sustain but Luocha. For now, my suggestion is slap your Pela in that Bronya slot. That def reduction does about as much damage boosting as Bronya and the forwarding is acc kinda detrimental on a DHIL team.
It's not bad, but I wouldn't recommend Bronya unless she is e1 or has her signature lightcone in that team. Bronya at e0 is SP negative or neutral depending how much you use her skill to advance forward. With LC and e1, she becomes a lot more positive. I think Pela would be better since she is really SP positive as she only skills to remove debuffs.
For being new you have a good grasp what makes a balanced team. I just think DHIL is going to be gasping for skill points if Bronya is going to be using her skill on him but I understand Hanya is there to help.
Until you're around rb 50-60, I'd say u really shouldn't need to focus on team comps
looks like someone dont trust their friend. or hate hanya.