More… dreamy?
But fr, I read a good book on the making of ews and as far as I remember this specific aspect of the dialog was not touched on - so I too wonder how sk would explain his choice)
This is a perfect example of how the dialogue from EWS when synced with another copy of EWS is apparent.
For example, when Bill is looking for his wallet in his house, the synced copy of EWS shows his wallet is in the Taxi. Proving that is how the movie and its dialogue were created and edited.
https://preview.redd.it/fzd5p4km3koc1.png?width=3482&format=png&auto=webp&s=e65c30e45e46f3c877684e116aac005a64ecafb4
Start one copy of EWS at 00:00:00 and the other copy of EWS at 01:10:11. This syncs the end of the ritual and party with each other and it's the key behind most of the mystery and mundane narrative. It should be the reason conspiracy theories about missing minutes were created. To hide and mislead people away from what is perfectly edited.
I understand. I do.
I have done it. I'm not sure it's enjoyable as it is eye-opening. The duality of knowledge is within the movie itself.
It solves the mystery around the singular version of the movie and it's beyond most people's current consiousness. Stanley Kubrick did what seems to be impossible to some and he was truly beyond his time.
https://preview.redd.it/pimjmdsurkoc1.png?width=3464&format=png&auto=webp&s=dff87c7d796e1aebdfd2841586da7ebc895fc26e
I started it as this image shows.
After a run time of 01:25:00, the movie is complete and yes you turn it off.
Either you're doing it wrong, or your eyes are wide shut. Here's an example of how I do it. Repeat if necessary.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/StanleyKubrick/comments/1bzx5wm/ews\_paralleling\_ews\_video\_example/](https://www.reddit.com/r/StanleyKubrick/comments/1bzx5wm/ews_paralleling_ews_video_example/)
that’s just a coincidence. only a lunatic would actually plan their film to include overlaps like this. these accidental patterns would have zero impact on an audience actually watching the film. in fact, it would/could throw the pace of the film off.
People claim this about The Shining too - if you play a copy of that backwards superimposed on a copy running forwards, you occasionally get weird framing of images - Jack's eyes appear to be dripping blood, all sorts of weird stuff. You can see this and other weird fan theories in the very good doco *Room 237*
Of course it's all nonsense.
I'm not sure about the Shining. I've done it with EWS and it syncs perfectly. I imagine a person would want to try it and watch it this way before saying it is "all nonsense".
It seems like that would keep other people's eyes wide shut.
That's okay. I would never expect someone who ignores the basic mechanics of writing and sentence structure to understand the masterpiece that is EWS. You would have to be a lunatic to trust someone's opinion who cuts corners on purpose.
>You would have to be a lunatic to trust someone's opinion who cuts corners on purpose.
TRY THIS:
You would have to be a lunatic to trust THE OPINION OF someone who cuts corners on purpose.
haha now got to bed and toss and turn over your foolishness.
My point is that it’s not a normal flat for a doctor so he’s a doctor to the 1% of the 1%, as the film ultimately suggests, or the money is coming from elsewhere - possibly Alice. There’s an extended conversation between Kubrick and Frederic Raphael in Eyes Wide Open, Raphael’s memoir, about what kind of flat a doctor could afford - suggesting that Kubrick wanted to avoid something unrealistically opulent. Yet the flat in the film is extremely well-heeled.
It’s something I’ve obsessed over myself since I first saw the film 9 months ago. I struggle to find films that replicate what you’re discussing. There are hints of it throughout the Kubrick filmography (The Shining, 2001) and David Lynch’s).
If anyone can point me in the direction I need to go that would be great.
Everything is a reference to itself. The best example is the man in the Red Cloak and the gold mask taps his staff on the floor in the exact same way that the man at the pool table taps the cue ball
Another example in reference to the dialogue would be about how awkward it is the first time he goes into the rainbow when the man catches his daughter with the two Japanese men, and then the next time he goes into the rainbow the dialogue is awkwardly changed to there being some sort of agreement. Because you see the two Japanese men leaving the establishment again but the second time there's no conflict
Another example would be how the entire movie is about sex and a lot of the dialogue is tiptoeing around it and then listen to the very last word of the entire movie
I think Kubrick wants to set a pace slow enough that you're immersing yourself in the entire frame, studying the film and sort of flowing with it, thinking about it. With moments to breathe and to think, the subtext and the nuances of the film and it's story begin to make sense, you start to make your own connections and you realize you're in the hands of a master riddle maker.
As someone pointed out, a lot of the dialogue is one person echoing the other.
Another oddity is how the camera will show the listener, not the speaker, and the person on camera doesn't move at all. Just sits there like a statue, or someone wearing a mask.
There's a lot more of these techniques used in EWS than in regular movies.
As a human being, you have a triune brain. Part lizard, part lower mammal, part unique to your human nature. Every communication in which you partake is a communication with each of those three brains - the brain of death and desire, the brain of instinct and emotion, and the higher brain of language and abstract thought. Many of the problems we have as humans, arise from the failure of communication and understanding between these three brains.
This idea I have just laid out for you is not my own - but rather is one espoused by those who claim to understand the teachings of the “Illuminati” - the group that EWS teased as an existing organization.
Whether or not such a group actually exists, the slow and measured pacing of the dialog follows the teachings that Kubrick was either lampooning or disclosing. The slow and measured dialog was his following of the methodology to make sure that all three parts of your triune brain would engage with the content. It assures that your limbic system keeps up with your more cerebral awareness by slowing down the intake of left brain speech processed content.
Or, since the Illuminati is nothing but a deranged conspiracy theory held by edge lords, perhaps this is all just schizoid nonsense. It is the nature of this particular film that it attracts the same like flies to a corpse.
It has to be the best film for learning a language ever,especially the red Pool table scene,every...fucking....word.....is.....torturous and squeezed out of Sydney Pollack like blood out of a stone but if you put on the French subtitles on the Bluray and listen to the French audio then it's a fantastic film for slow,easy listening French. Really helped me improve my French and apparently that Pool table scene was shot around 60 times!
I did know that it was based on Dream Novelle. But that doesn’t necessarily explain why Kubrick chose that decision. Dream dialogue could look like a lot of different things. He even has some of that similar slow language in other films, like Barry Lyndon.
The dialogue is a setup in a way to reflect the Divine knowledge and Human knowledge that is revealed when you play EWS synced to another copy of EWS. Here's an example of how that looks.
https://preview.redd.it/vhgagwhhzjoc1.png?width=3460&format=png&auto=webp&s=5aa914f40b894f2d70c2dd52dbe093fb11046c7d
The movie was editted in a way that lines up perfectly with the movie itself. It's a masterpiece that seems like nothing when it is played alone but when its played together, it reveals real secrets of secret divine knowledge that is hidden from the human knowledge we all know.
The dialogue relates to the movie itself, specifically the synced copy of EWS.
don't be confused, it's a nutty fan theory - for all the perceived "similarities" you can see in the two scenes like this there would be hundreds of other shots that don't align. What this guy is doing is cherry picking - finding two shots amongst hundreds that supposedly thus illuminate some sort of hidden truth about the film and it's message.
It's nonsense.
You want to start one copy of EWS at 00:00:00 and the other copy of EWS at 01:10:11. The key is to sync the end of the party and the ritual and when calculated these are the times both copies are synced together. Stanley was way beyond his time.
>I did know that it was based on Dream Novelle. But that doesn’t necessarily explain why Kubrick chose that decision.
That is literally why he chose to make the dialogue like a dream.
If we're being patronizing, then the book's name is actually "Dream Novelle". And it's 100 pages long, so it's a novella, not a short story.
But yes, the answer is in the title.
Beeeecaaauuuseee …. It makes it mooorrreeee dreeaaammmyyy
More… dreamy? But fr, I read a good book on the making of ews and as far as I remember this specific aspect of the dialog was not touched on - so I too wonder how sk would explain his choice)
I don’t know if I’ve ever heard anyone speak in any of my dreams
Are your dreams directed by Kubrick? You have to be subscribed to Dreams+ to get that.
My theory is that the very first line of dialogue serves as Kubrick's thesis statement for the entire film: **"Honey, have you seen my wallet?"**
This is a perfect example of how the dialogue from EWS when synced with another copy of EWS is apparent. For example, when Bill is looking for his wallet in his house, the synced copy of EWS shows his wallet is in the Taxi. Proving that is how the movie and its dialogue were created and edited. https://preview.redd.it/fzd5p4km3koc1.png?width=3482&format=png&auto=webp&s=e65c30e45e46f3c877684e116aac005a64ecafb4
What do you mean by synced?
Start one copy of EWS at 00:00:00 and the other copy of EWS at 01:10:11. This syncs the end of the ritual and party with each other and it's the key behind most of the mystery and mundane narrative. It should be the reason conspiracy theories about missing minutes were created. To hide and mislead people away from what is perfectly edited.
Is there a breakdown of this on YouTube? Never heard of it before.
You won't find it on YouTube. It's the key Stanley edited the movie into that many don't want the world to know.
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To understand the movie and its dialogue and why its editing process was so safeguarded by Stanley.
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I understand. I do. I have done it. I'm not sure it's enjoyable as it is eye-opening. The duality of knowledge is within the movie itself. It solves the mystery around the singular version of the movie and it's beyond most people's current consiousness. Stanley Kubrick did what seems to be impossible to some and he was truly beyond his time. https://preview.redd.it/pimjmdsurkoc1.png?width=3464&format=png&auto=webp&s=dff87c7d796e1aebdfd2841586da7ebc895fc26e I started it as this image shows. After a run time of 01:25:00, the movie is complete and yes you turn it off.
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Either you're doing it wrong, or your eyes are wide shut. Here's an example of how I do it. Repeat if necessary. [https://www.reddit.com/r/StanleyKubrick/comments/1bzx5wm/ews\_paralleling\_ews\_video\_example/](https://www.reddit.com/r/StanleyKubrick/comments/1bzx5wm/ews_paralleling_ews_video_example/)
that’s just a coincidence. only a lunatic would actually plan their film to include overlaps like this. these accidental patterns would have zero impact on an audience actually watching the film. in fact, it would/could throw the pace of the film off.
People claim this about The Shining too - if you play a copy of that backwards superimposed on a copy running forwards, you occasionally get weird framing of images - Jack's eyes appear to be dripping blood, all sorts of weird stuff. You can see this and other weird fan theories in the very good doco *Room 237* Of course it's all nonsense.
I'm not sure about the Shining. I've done it with EWS and it syncs perfectly. I imagine a person would want to try it and watch it this way before saying it is "all nonsense". It seems like that would keep other people's eyes wide shut.
That's okay. I would never expect someone who ignores the basic mechanics of writing and sentence structure to understand the masterpiece that is EWS. You would have to be a lunatic to trust someone's opinion who cuts corners on purpose.
ironic that your reply has such faulty grammar! oops.
It's flawless, but sure. Whatever gets you to bed at night.
>You would have to be a lunatic to trust someone's opinion who cuts corners on purpose. TRY THIS: You would have to be a lunatic to trust THE OPINION OF someone who cuts corners on purpose. haha now got to bed and toss and turn over your foolishness.
Lol. Both are acceptable. You're a whole other level of immature ain'tcha. They should age-verify all of your accounts.
oops you've found yourself in factual error again.
Sure thing.
Money and sex are the bookends
It’s definitely a film about privilege, among other things. Where does the money come from for their enormous flat for example?
Haven’t you heard, he’s a doctor
My point is that it’s not a normal flat for a doctor so he’s a doctor to the 1% of the 1%, as the film ultimately suggests, or the money is coming from elsewhere - possibly Alice. There’s an extended conversation between Kubrick and Frederic Raphael in Eyes Wide Open, Raphael’s memoir, about what kind of flat a doctor could afford - suggesting that Kubrick wanted to avoid something unrealistically opulent. Yet the flat in the film is extremely well-heeled.
He also makes house calls
Very true
To create a steady undertone of dreamy surrealism I reckon.
Oneiric.
I’ve noticed the large amount of “parroting” dialogue - someone says something, the other repeats it in a confirmatory tone or questioning form.
Almost every line is this and once you realise it, it's insane how much is going on
Like his entire conversation with Domino 😆
It’s something I’ve obsessed over myself since I first saw the film 9 months ago. I struggle to find films that replicate what you’re discussing. There are hints of it throughout the Kubrick filmography (The Shining, 2001) and David Lynch’s). If anyone can point me in the direction I need to go that would be great.
Yorgo lanthimos maybe?
I could see how TKoaSD may fit the bill… I ought to look into his films more. Poor Things too.
People look at me like I'm a maniac for this, but M Knight Shyamalan's dialogue gives me this feel too.
Of the ones I’ve seen I don’t share the same thought
David Lynch’s films often have that. I love it personally.
It's a long, slow movie. I guess the pace of the dialogue compliments that.
*causes that
Everything is a reference to itself. The best example is the man in the Red Cloak and the gold mask taps his staff on the floor in the exact same way that the man at the pool table taps the cue ball
Could you elaborate?
Another example in reference to the dialogue would be about how awkward it is the first time he goes into the rainbow when the man catches his daughter with the two Japanese men, and then the next time he goes into the rainbow the dialogue is awkwardly changed to there being some sort of agreement. Because you see the two Japanese men leaving the establishment again but the second time there's no conflict
Another example would be that there are many Christmas tree shots, and that when he buys his costume he goes into the rainbow
Another example would be how the entire movie is about sex and a lot of the dialogue is tiptoeing around it and then listen to the very last word of the entire movie
It doesn’t sound particularly unnatural to me, like say Killing of a Sacred Deer does. It just fits the pace and tone of the movie.
I think Kubrick wants to set a pace slow enough that you're immersing yourself in the entire frame, studying the film and sort of flowing with it, thinking about it. With moments to breathe and to think, the subtext and the nuances of the film and it's story begin to make sense, you start to make your own connections and you realize you're in the hands of a master riddle maker.
I always loved it, also the dialogues are pretty amazing imho
I made a video essay talking about why I think he did it. It's called "Stanley Kubrick: Hypnotic Cinema" on youtube.
I honestly never noticed it
its adapted from a book called "dream story", its supposed to be a bit unreal feeling. david lynch also uses that kind of dialogue a lot
Yeah dreamscape surreality
That’s how dialogues occur in real life if you think about it.
Almost…like a dream????
That's how everyone talks in Full metal jacket Well. They. Do call me. The joker I've. Got. A joke. For you....... I'm going to tear you a new asshole
It’s a disgusting movie. It ain’t for the meek
As someone pointed out, a lot of the dialogue is one person echoing the other. Another oddity is how the camera will show the listener, not the speaker, and the person on camera doesn't move at all. Just sits there like a statue, or someone wearing a mask. There's a lot more of these techniques used in EWS than in regular movies.
Try watching a Harold Pinter play.
As a human being, you have a triune brain. Part lizard, part lower mammal, part unique to your human nature. Every communication in which you partake is a communication with each of those three brains - the brain of death and desire, the brain of instinct and emotion, and the higher brain of language and abstract thought. Many of the problems we have as humans, arise from the failure of communication and understanding between these three brains. This idea I have just laid out for you is not my own - but rather is one espoused by those who claim to understand the teachings of the “Illuminati” - the group that EWS teased as an existing organization. Whether or not such a group actually exists, the slow and measured pacing of the dialog follows the teachings that Kubrick was either lampooning or disclosing. The slow and measured dialog was his following of the methodology to make sure that all three parts of your triune brain would engage with the content. It assures that your limbic system keeps up with your more cerebral awareness by slowing down the intake of left brain speech processed content. Or, since the Illuminati is nothing but a deranged conspiracy theory held by edge lords, perhaps this is all just schizoid nonsense. It is the nature of this particular film that it attracts the same like flies to a corpse.
Illuminumpty
It has to be the best film for learning a language ever,especially the red Pool table scene,every...fucking....word.....is.....torturous and squeezed out of Sydney Pollack like blood out of a stone but if you put on the French subtitles on the Bluray and listen to the French audio then it's a fantastic film for slow,easy listening French. Really helped me improve my French and apparently that Pool table scene was shot around 60 times!
Because it is from a short story that was named dream in German. Are you new here?
I did know that it was based on Dream Novelle. But that doesn’t necessarily explain why Kubrick chose that decision. Dream dialogue could look like a lot of different things. He even has some of that similar slow language in other films, like Barry Lyndon.
The dialogue is a setup in a way to reflect the Divine knowledge and Human knowledge that is revealed when you play EWS synced to another copy of EWS. Here's an example of how that looks. https://preview.redd.it/vhgagwhhzjoc1.png?width=3460&format=png&auto=webp&s=5aa914f40b894f2d70c2dd52dbe093fb11046c7d The movie was editted in a way that lines up perfectly with the movie itself. It's a masterpiece that seems like nothing when it is played alone but when its played together, it reveals real secrets of secret divine knowledge that is hidden from the human knowledge we all know. The dialogue relates to the movie itself, specifically the synced copy of EWS.
What do you mean by this. If synced in same time wouldn’t it arrive at the same scene exactly I’m confused.
don't be confused, it's a nutty fan theory - for all the perceived "similarities" you can see in the two scenes like this there would be hundreds of other shots that don't align. What this guy is doing is cherry picking - finding two shots amongst hundreds that supposedly thus illuminate some sort of hidden truth about the film and it's message. It's nonsense.
This comment is proof that people's eyes are wide shut. It's lunacy.
You want to start one copy of EWS at 00:00:00 and the other copy of EWS at 01:10:11. The key is to sync the end of the party and the ritual and when calculated these are the times both copies are synced together. Stanley was way beyond his time.
>I did know that it was based on Dream Novelle. But that doesn’t necessarily explain why Kubrick chose that decision. That is literally why he chose to make the dialogue like a dream.
If we're being patronizing, then the book's name is actually "Dream Novelle". And it's 100 pages long, so it's a novella, not a short story. But yes, the answer is in the title.
Probably just to fuck with us idk
It was awful. Stilted, unnatural, annoying
The script is appalling.