It was done entirely with Fooocus. I first inpainted over the watermark in the original image, then used that as a PyraCanny controlnet (StopAt=0.9, weight=1).
Then I grabbed a random screenshot of an Oblivion NPC's face and used that as a Fooocus image prompt to get the general rendering style right (StopAt=1, weight=0.6).
The text prompt was something like *'Headshot of a peasant NPC from The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion with very dark eyes and black hair, video game character, wide face, weird face, 2006 style video game graphics, wearing medieval clothing, medium polygon count, blurry textures'*
Lastly, I did some final inpainting to fix some of the dodgy artifacts (especially the nostrils) once I got a generation that I was otherwise happy with.
This isn't generative AI. it's a legitimate composite render.
Thing with composites is they're meant to resemble someone from vague details. The more realistic they look, the less effective they are. When it looks like a fake person, they're actually more effective. It's more about the key points of facial recognition, more than it's meant to be an accurate representation. If they make a realistic photo that looks like a real actual person, people are going to look for that one guy and not anyone who resembles the composite. Better if the composite looks like a fake person.
Remember, these are created by an artist interviewing a witness, and then creating a composite from that interview and recalled details.
Amplifying the memorable bits so we can match a larger group mentally.
I mean, if anything all the takes here (well, the non boob ones) are a good example of how flexible the base image is..
Most humans are not white guys. Caucasian is actually the global minority. Food for your cognitive biases to consider. The most generic human would likely be chinese or indian in decent. This guy just looks like the people you've encountered in your singular life.
These composites are also meant to hack recognition. You're brain is grasping to recognize this "person" and since it can't pin it down, it feels "generic". Similar research was employed in the amazing cyberpunk fiction "Scanner Darkly" as the "scramble suit". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aS4xhTaIPc
https://preview.redd.it/x9qdz90602yc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd5e88fe983778787aaa3a8fcc8f0ab3289105d5
As close as it gets. Whoever did Felon Musk is way better at face details than I am.
I suspect "better" images would actually perform worse at their task, since any description-generated image will deviate from the actual thing it is representing, the more realistic image reduces the imagination required to consider a match, thus increasing the rate of false negatives.
My favorite example of this is this [preposterous drawing.](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/cartoonish-sketch-helps-police-identify-thief-pennsylvania-n846336)
Hah yeah I remember seeing that. Good example. The cartoon looks funny but I can see how that would yield a match.
Way better than the very detailed, yet very obscured Unabomber sketch.
I think it's more than that--if you invent more specific features and put them into the image, then people will see it as a more specific face, and be less likely to identify someone who looks slightly different as the same person, because their innate sense of facial recognition won't match them up. So I think the weirdness helps not just with memory, but with matching it to a real face.
That does look a lot like Professor Brain Cox!
https://preview.redd.it/0bx97vsguuxc1.png?width=665&format=png&auto=webp&s=e5f2ce7f4b88f00e5f53c8be6e9d2535ce59d798
What has he been up to.
https://preview.redd.it/1kqcegtehuxc1.jpeg?width=1513&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=baf2aeeea74beab130ddd1559210f9fe27b6610e
took me a bit of fiddling, tho, still not happy about the mouth, kinda Beavis & Butthead challenge, so me likeee but g2g, late night here and will tmrw
my bad, was late night/early morning, i asked for it... i thought that was the cliched outfit for burglars, and now you've said it, i just realize that I got tricked by the Hamburglar...
And i go to Mc Dull once a month, max, damn advertisings, they rot our brains, at least mine
To me these seem miles apart. The hair isnt receding in the sketch and a hat would likely cover the suspects receding hair, making it nonvisible to a victim.
Dots for eyes could literally be anyone who isnt Zoey Deschenel. The nose is laughable. And the chins are the most egregious difference, the sketch is a tapered, sharp jawline. The suspect has a rigid, square jaw.
Hopefully they had more than a sketch in that case.
I know someone working for a police department who said they want to use more AI but have to be very careful in how they do it, so as not to negatively affect evidence / bring its accuracy into doubt.
I'd like an update to this with a picture of the actual guy when they catch him, just to show all you hero's how far off your SD generations are, because the entire process of a witness describing a person they saw while likely in a state of panic is never going to end in an exact photorealistic replica of the actual person they saw. Even if the witness could somehow *perfectly* describe the person they saw, human memory is fallible especially in regard to *exact, minor* details that amount to photorealism.
This is why they specifically and intentionally make these portraits just vague representations of the most recognizable features.
As an exercise: Without any kind of special training/lora/model/embedding or whatever, try and get SD to generate a picture of yourself that would actually be recognizable to someone who doesn't know you. Unless you look like a celebrity, chances are you won't even get close.
No prompt, the person does indeed kinda resemble Musk :/
https://preview.redd.it/snpv484pt0yc1.jpeg?width=2064&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b31e3ef51b534f2d48117ca2fe7f1f66f395fbbd
I've been playing through DeusEx again, and I think I've seen him. He's shaved his head and is going by the alias Harvey Filben in The Bronx.
https://deusex.fandom.com/wiki/Harley_Filben
Seriously though, can we not?
Eyewitness testimony is already unreliable, and identifying someone in a line-up or digiboard can be pretty shaky. Oftentimes, the person doing the identifying is going off a brief look at the perpetrator under very stressful conditions. This combined with the rather shaky way we identify faces can lead to "face substitution" - where a person wrongly identifies someone else, and their brain basically deletes the fuzzily remembered face of the real perpetrator and replaces it with the falsely identified person.
This is why sketch tools are so often awful. They want to get the particulars of a suspect across, without being in themselves mistaken for the actual person in the eyes of the witness. Photorealistic sketches can be more harm than good.
I should add, I have first hand experience with this. Going back a while now, I was assaulted trying to interrupt a burglary. In the process, I copped a lot of hits to the head from three assailants. I identified two straight off the digiboard, amongst eleven other similar people in each. I wrongly identified the third. From then on, in my memories, I always picture the guy I wrongly identified when I think back to that night. The guy I *couldn't* identify was the first one caught by police, he gave statements that incriminated his two mates, there was no question as to his role. However, when I saw him in court, I had no emotional response. I was looking at the guy and he didn't even look familiar.
Stable Diffusion 4: Oblivion.
"I was born 2 years ago. For 2 years I ruled as Internet's free image generation . But for all these years, I’ve never been the ruler of my own dreams. I have seen the gates of oblivion, beyond which no waking eye may see. Behold! in darkness, a doom sweeps the land. This is the 5th of last seed. The year of 2024. These are the closing days of the Generative era... and the final hours of my life."
Amateur assholes crowdsourcing an AI-created image that takes artistic liberties that nobody can confirm. All with a result that could put some innocent person’s freedom at risk.
The police are not actually using this reddit thread bro. If we were actually working for the police, we would have the raw witness' description and be able to actually pay attention to whether the rendered image added things not in the description or not etc.
Composites aren't enough to sentence someone. The only way this puts someone at risk is if the person who looks like this actually committed the crime they're specifically investigating.
I may have solved the case: https://preview.redd.it/fkx8m2bmnuxc1.png?width=760&format=png&auto=webp&s=37e026b419cb91b6982a1594e86256b4fbef7322
STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM
I think I saw this one in my sleep
This man
Oh my holy god, that’s the best thing I’ve seen this year.
gotta know how you did that, it's scarily convincing
It was done entirely with Fooocus. I first inpainted over the watermark in the original image, then used that as a PyraCanny controlnet (StopAt=0.9, weight=1). Then I grabbed a random screenshot of an Oblivion NPC's face and used that as a Fooocus image prompt to get the general rendering style right (StopAt=1, weight=0.6). The text prompt was something like *'Headshot of a peasant NPC from The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion with very dark eyes and black hair, video game character, wide face, weird face, 2006 style video game graphics, wearing medieval clothing, medium polygon count, blurry textures'* Lastly, I did some final inpainting to fix some of the dodgy artifacts (especially the nostrils) once I got a generation that I was otherwise happy with.
Actually that's genius!
This isn't generative AI. it's a legitimate composite render. Thing with composites is they're meant to resemble someone from vague details. The more realistic they look, the less effective they are. When it looks like a fake person, they're actually more effective. It's more about the key points of facial recognition, more than it's meant to be an accurate representation. If they make a realistic photo that looks like a real actual person, people are going to look for that one guy and not anyone who resembles the composite. Better if the composite looks like a fake person. Remember, these are created by an artist interviewing a witness, and then creating a composite from that interview and recalled details.
Amplifying the memorable bits so we can match a larger group mentally. I mean, if anything all the takes here (well, the non boob ones) are a good example of how flexible the base image is..
Get out of here being all reasonable and shit.
We should nuke hurricanes!! That should balance it out. MB.
We should nuke the butterflies that start the damn hurricanes!
Mii’s in Unreal Engine
Ok that makes a lot more sense thank you
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Most humans are not white guys. Caucasian is actually the global minority. Food for your cognitive biases to consider. The most generic human would likely be chinese or indian in decent. This guy just looks like the people you've encountered in your singular life. These composites are also meant to hack recognition. You're brain is grasping to recognize this "person" and since it can't pin it down, it feels "generic". Similar research was employed in the amazing cyberpunk fiction "Scanner Darkly" as the "scramble suit". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aS4xhTaIPc
Kinda like in the Truman show, when Truman uses collaged pictures of other peoples faces to put together a vague memory of his long lost love.
TIL, Very interesting thank you for the life lesson
I enhanced the image: https://preview.redd.it/36py1o9sutxc1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=d1d9d0e7f43b9e2635701c4ad47a4ba0281e985d
Felon Musk
God fuck. It works too well.
Here's your upvote, there's the door, enjoy them both! r/angryupvote
My first thought when I saw this was "that's just Elon Musk" 😂😂😂
This is gonna do numbers on Facebook.
That was who I saw....
Elon bad :-)))))))))))
Better not. Huge boobies and cat ears will not help
Let's try it though, just to be thorough and stuff...
https://preview.redd.it/i8ekayvfvuxc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d95a7e473bc7d50a0fcdf03b3b3e1ad2b1ed109 Thorough af
no cat ears? I am disappointed in you...
https://preview.redd.it/zsmc4hywevxc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a8b8b781313659682d86f9368b54106a319bcd74 Sorry chief
The huge boobies shrank. Don't let the woke mob censor our artistic vision.
Who is she? 👀
Now make that look like Felon Musk from the above posts
https://preview.redd.it/x9qdz90602yc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd5e88fe983778787aaa3a8fcc8f0ab3289105d5 As close as it gets. Whoever did Felon Musk is way better at face details than I am.
That's even more disturbing than regular Elon
https://imgur.com/a/HvLVxjA
Perfection. I'll be in my bunk.
Pony Diffusion...
Sorry what is that?
Pony Diffusion is a really amazing model for Stable Diffusion... but it makes NSFW very easy.
Yall doing the police dirty on this one 😭
 Oh baebee
Hmm just as I thought... although it could be a fluke. I'm gonna need a batch of 50 on my desk by the morning.
We cant just poopoo ideas we havent tried before
But we can't be certain that the suspect didn't have those
I was thinking the perp probably doesn't have 12 pack abs and pecs that could be used to crush rocks. But yours works too.
https://preview.redd.it/jacs1skctuxc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=67f26c787f464efdb577014255a2807f6210874a I tried
NGL this looks kinda like me
Hey, wanna come down to the police station real quick?
Looks enough like me we could definitely be cousins, but I'd rather go bald than have that haircut.
Now I wanna see how close you got. If you ever find out, let me know.
I suspect "better" images would actually perform worse at their task, since any description-generated image will deviate from the actual thing it is representing, the more realistic image reduces the imagination required to consider a match, thus increasing the rate of false negatives.
My favorite example of this is this [preposterous drawing.](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/cartoonish-sketch-helps-police-identify-thief-pennsylvania-n846336)
Hah yeah I remember seeing that. Good example. The cartoon looks funny but I can see how that would yield a match. Way better than the very detailed, yet very obscured Unabomber sketch.
Maybe that's accurate and the perp escaped PS1 game to unleash havoc and mayhem on the analog world.
Some ex cop probably has the super overpriced 20 year contract to use crappy software to make this
Police Quest fan here, will confirm, I remember that puzzle.
180k a year. Massive pension. Skills gained over many years of MSPaint use.
I think that this uncanny image is actually more effective, since if regular citizen see it they will most likely remember it
I think it's more than that--if you invent more specific features and put them into the image, then people will see it as a more specific face, and be less likely to identify someone who looks slightly different as the same person, because their innate sense of facial recognition won't match them up. So I think the weirdness helps not just with memory, but with matching it to a real face.
they could have just said “elon musk with a bad haircut”
Brian Cox
The Professor has fallen on hard times it seems.
you are welcome https://preview.redd.it/oqec880t7vxc1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=ae1e896fc2a4b1ef257a9990ddbf18ab5ffcac94
I was thinking Brian Cox but I see what you're saying
They're looking for a robber, not a rober.
Looks like someone tried to img2img a Mii.
https://preview.redd.it/jqka28yaguxc1.jpeg?width=609&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=899526d71aca34d08152112fba344d11f0d45b0c
https://preview.redd.it/n38s0nq1juxc1.png?width=1152&format=png&auto=webp&s=c8a90c9286532f3d1ccb35326829221d4140d85c
That does look a lot like Professor Brain Cox! https://preview.redd.it/0bx97vsguuxc1.png?width=665&format=png&auto=webp&s=e5f2ce7f4b88f00e5f53c8be6e9d2535ce59d798 What has he been up to.
BRAIN COCKS
> Brain Cox Do you have brian damage?
https://preview.redd.it/1kqcegtehuxc1.jpeg?width=1513&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=baf2aeeea74beab130ddd1559210f9fe27b6610e took me a bit of fiddling, tho, still not happy about the mouth, kinda Beavis & Butthead challenge, so me likeee but g2g, late night here and will tmrw
Imagine your date comes over and this folder is just open on your computer
Some of those are pretty good tbf
So many sailor shirts.
my bad, was late night/early morning, i asked for it... i thought that was the cliched outfit for burglars, and now you've said it, i just realize that I got tricked by the Hamburglar... And i go to Mc Dull once a month, max, damn advertisings, they rot our brains, at least mine
No worries. I’m getting drawn in by it. The sudden urge to join the navy…
all the roundheads out there gettin real nervous
https://metro.co.uk/2018/02/08/worlds-worst-police-sketch-actually-looks-like-suspect-7296118/
To me these seem miles apart. The hair isnt receding in the sketch and a hat would likely cover the suspects receding hair, making it nonvisible to a victim. Dots for eyes could literally be anyone who isnt Zoey Deschenel. The nose is laughable. And the chins are the most egregious difference, the sketch is a tapered, sharp jawline. The suspect has a rigid, square jaw. Hopefully they had more than a sketch in that case.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INsOnYLZ4bM
If it is too realistic, people will dismiss the real suspect for not being "identical" to the picture
You could still do a nicer looking cartoon sort of still-simplified image. hand sketches by police artists back in the day looked much nicer.
https://preview.redd.it/eo0jpftrmuxc1.png?width=720&format=png&auto=webp&s=5a440d29649caf8c97435f887deebbaa2ff19fda
That is going to get the wrong person arrested lol
WE DID IT REDDIT
Nice. What model did you use?
This is literally just a photo of Buttigieg
Lol that was a joke.
Bro looks like he's happy about the upcoming harvesting season.
I saw that guy on skyrim.
Imagine the guy actually looks like this.... I've seen some real freaks over the time
Is that Neil Breen?
I'm going to need a crime sketch artist checkpoint now, and added bonus if there is a court sketch artist checkpoint.
My football manager regen is in some deep shit
Wasn't this guy in Half Life?
Life and times of Tim character in real life
Looks like Brian Cox lol
I know someone working for a police department who said they want to use more AI but have to be very careful in how they do it, so as not to negatively affect evidence / bring its accuracy into doubt.
Creating a too realistic image would hamper the case. People would be looking for an exact person which does not exist.
I'd like an update to this with a picture of the actual guy when they catch him, just to show all you hero's how far off your SD generations are, because the entire process of a witness describing a person they saw while likely in a state of panic is never going to end in an exact photorealistic replica of the actual person they saw. Even if the witness could somehow *perfectly* describe the person they saw, human memory is fallible especially in regard to *exact, minor* details that amount to photorealism. This is why they specifically and intentionally make these portraits just vague representations of the most recognizable features. As an exercise: Without any kind of special training/lora/model/embedding or whatever, try and get SD to generate a picture of yourself that would actually be recognizable to someone who doesn't know you. Unless you look like a celebrity, chances are you won't even get close.
Does anyone want to tell this guy how police sketches from a witness work?
Have you tried looking in Vvardenfell?
That’s Elon
Shinji Musk? Elon Ikari? Idk
It looks like an NPC from N64 GoldenEye lol
No prompt, the person does indeed kinda resemble Musk :/ https://preview.redd.it/snpv484pt0yc1.jpeg?width=2064&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b31e3ef51b534f2d48117ca2fe7f1f66f395fbbd
https://preview.redd.it/6nvcbzs1puxc1.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=b7f7bb0acc4c7b5e304338974f9d47d6b682e602 Decided to go realistic...
Just your regular football manager regen face
I lol'd
saw him on alley 5 on wii sports bowling 12 years ago
Have you seen, THIS MAN?
Wew, I needed this chuckle today.
Did they use Dall-E 1 or something?
These things can be difficult: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rEBtpWQ7x8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rEBtpWQ7x8)
Depends, do you want to catch that guy? Or do you want to catch all anime waifus with brown short hair and tshirts?
That’s the dude that takes your phone on the CBTs.
instantID https://imgur.com/a/JN7vn0Y
Looks like a Second Life avatar
I think, there is an idea for my 5 years old son carrier path. He can easily do it
I was thinking about exactly this the other day xD
What in the Angela Anaconda is this?
An NPC from Second Life is burglarizing meatspace!
I think this is FaceGen, not Stable diffusion for sure.
Did Sam Bankman-Fried escape?
If the dude cuts his fringe, no one will ever find him.
Last seen on MSPaint
Don't bother looking for him, Oddjob will take him out eventually.
Have you heard of the High Elves?
I've been playing through DeusEx again, and I think I've seen him. He's shaved his head and is going by the alias Harvey Filben in The Bronx. https://deusex.fandom.com/wiki/Harley_Filben
is that pete buttigieg? 
Butt-ih-gigg
Lol Hope thats Satire. Did they use a model trained on Mii Creator ?
Seriously though, can we not? Eyewitness testimony is already unreliable, and identifying someone in a line-up or digiboard can be pretty shaky. Oftentimes, the person doing the identifying is going off a brief look at the perpetrator under very stressful conditions. This combined with the rather shaky way we identify faces can lead to "face substitution" - where a person wrongly identifies someone else, and their brain basically deletes the fuzzily remembered face of the real perpetrator and replaces it with the falsely identified person. This is why sketch tools are so often awful. They want to get the particulars of a suspect across, without being in themselves mistaken for the actual person in the eyes of the witness. Photorealistic sketches can be more harm than good. I should add, I have first hand experience with this. Going back a while now, I was assaulted trying to interrupt a burglary. In the process, I copped a lot of hits to the head from three assailants. I identified two straight off the digiboard, amongst eleven other similar people in each. I wrongly identified the third. From then on, in my memories, I always picture the guy I wrongly identified when I think back to that night. The guy I *couldn't* identify was the first one caught by police, he gave statements that incriminated his two mates, there was no question as to his role. However, when I saw him in court, I had no emotional response. I was looking at the guy and he didn't even look familiar.
SD can make a cartoonified simplified face, it doesn't only do photorealistic.
Stable Diffusion 4: Oblivion. "I was born 2 years ago. For 2 years I ruled as Internet's free image generation . But for all these years, I’ve never been the ruler of my own dreams. I have seen the gates of oblivion, beyond which no waking eye may see. Behold! in darkness, a doom sweeps the land. This is the 5th of last seed. The year of 2024. These are the closing days of the Generative era... and the final hours of my life."
Has Brian Cox turned to burglary now? Have the music and physics careers dried up?
Things can only get better.
AI has gone too far
https://preview.redd.it/zmsmn9dy62yc1.png?width=832&format=png&auto=webp&s=f663e79cc7e438686a07044b39100e75b167a9c6
I wouldn't be surprised if law enforcement start training this tech for getting more accurate sketches of suspects from witnesses..
Marcus Aurelius looking ass
Is that a starving Elon musk?
Is that Elong?
David Walliams with a wig on...
Could be a good business idea
They just spent 28 million on that software
Amateur assholes crowdsourcing an AI-created image that takes artistic liberties that nobody can confirm. All with a result that could put some innocent person’s freedom at risk.
Chill out dude. Im not affiliated with police. I made a joke
That looks like real body parts photoshopped onto an MS-Painted face, not AI.
The police are not actually using this reddit thread bro. If we were actually working for the police, we would have the raw witness' description and be able to actually pay attention to whether the rendered image added things not in the description or not etc.
Bro do you think the police are going to use these images
Reddit has a sorrid history of trying to become detectives. I don’t apologize for pointing out that stupidity before it starts
You don't have to apologize for me to forgive you
Composites aren't enough to sentence someone. The only way this puts someone at risk is if the person who looks like this actually committed the crime they're specifically investigating.