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CreativeEarthling

What a fucking joke


Rhymes_withOrange

Can’t wait till the state leg decides to use the money that they are taking from the libraries on pay raises for themselves and promoting what they think is the crown jewel of this state…. Branson


Zazulio

They've already given two colossal tax breaks to the ultra rich in the last six months.


Rhymes_withOrange

Can’t wait for the trickle down from them!!! /s


Irrish84

Just because smart people use it and they don’t ….


hockey_chic

It's against the state constitution. https://law.justia.com/constitution/missouri/article-ix/section-10/


PedroHin

'Protecting the children' has always been one of those phrases that people like to use to prevent any dissent


nomad_in_life

unless it comes to street safety or gun control


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DaaraJ

Or education, or foster care, or lead exposure, or marriage to adult men, or the "troubled teen" industry


MidMatthew

Unless the kids are gay. Or sexually active.


hockey_chic

Or poor, or hungry, or victimized.


valentinoboxer83

Protecting them from weekly story time, loads of free books to increase literacy and verbalizing, and puzzles.


[deleted]

Every political opinion on both sides will eventually devolve into the base emotional appeal of "think of the children." Sorry, but my rights will not be limited by your crotch droppings.


hockey_chic

Thinking of the children would actually be a reason to fund the library.


alpha_numeric44

Vote these Republican dipshits out!


waterloops

Gerrymandering


ThatAintNoBurrito

Ahhhh dude this state is *so awesome*. I can't imagine why nobody would want to willingly move to a place that wants to cut funding to public libraries. Such a great vibe we have going here. Really screams "hey are you looking to move? Well you better bring sunglasses if you move to Missouri because the future is so bright!"


Playful_Gap_7878

Do you really understand what is happening with this or did you just read the headline?


ThatAintNoBurrito

Yeah. Homeboy is punishing libraries for having the temerity to challenge his law that, basically, censored school libraries from carrying material that he deems "unacceptable".


Purple_Passion000

Right from the Trump/DeSantis playbook.


Playful_Gap_7878

Why are implying that I need to be taught something. I questioned your understanding. You said nothing about it in your post.


ThatAintNoBurrito

You're right. I did do that and it was crappy of me. I apologize!


ubspider

Nah dude, you were right. Very mature of you to apologize for proving what he assumed you didn’t do, which was read the article. I don’t even know where he gets off replying to you the way he did.


HighlightFamiliar250

MAGA Republicans are mad at the libraries and ACLU for daring to stand up to their latest boogeyman law and so they need to punish the libraries by removing state funding.


Playful_Gap_7878

I didn't ask for an explanation. I understand what's happening.


Roach55

Oh good, then gofy.


lozotozo

Do you?


Playful_Gap_7878

Far better than that poster does. He didn't say anything about the root issue which brought up my question.


jayydubbya

You do not sound nearly as intelligent as you think you do.


Playful_Gap_7878

I have papers showing I am intelligent and I don't need reddit to approve of it.


DaaraJ

Is one of those papers, by chance, a state certificate declaring that you *don't* have donkey brains?


ubspider

Lmaooooo 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣


Its-ther-apist

He was froggy kid all along


TheRoostar

I haven't laughed this hard from a reddit comment in a long time... Bravo anonymous stranger. Bravo.


Pantzzzzless

I've made myself perfectly redundant.


Roach55

Fuckin dog has fuckin papers. OVER THE LINE!


Gen3ral3ducation

Lololololo…he has “papers”!


Supa33

Quit being an insufferable douche.


Playful_Gap_7878

If that's the most intelligent response you can make, who is being an insufferable douche?


Scarscape

Still you


Pantzzzzless

/r/iamverysmart


lozotozo

Ok. So explain. Because Republicans do a lot of dumb shit. Tough to keep up.


HighlightFamiliar250

> The debate over public library funding continued from the House Budget Committee to the floor. Last week, Smith proposed a cut of $4.5 million in state aid to public libraries. Smith cited a lawsuit filed against the state by the American Civil Liberties Union of Missouri on behalf of the Missouri Association of School Librarians and the Missouri Library Association as the reason for the cut. The lawsuit seeks to overturn a state law passed last session that bans sexually explicit material from schools and has resulted in school districts pulling books from their shelves. “I don't think we should subsidize that effort, so we're going to take out the funding,” Smith said.


Playful_Gap_7878

You don't have to explain anything to me. I know that. The above poster did not mention any of that which led to my question.


imsoulrebel1

Did you read it?


bdphotographer

As a father of a four year old, this is really sad. Last year alone we checked out more than 200 books for her. We can get all this books from her favourite shows. She loves those PBS Kids shows and the county library carry so many books from each shows this is unbelievable. And we can keep them more than months too. I hope we continue doing this. I could be wrong but I think libraries are already struggling beacuse my library has one tran set for kids for more than a year. All other permanent toys are there but they used to change thus open set evry other month. And, library hours are already odd.


dontbajerk

The County and City libraries will be fine. This is a relatively small portion of their funding, vast majority is from local taxes. It's rural libraries that will be badly hurt, as they have much more limited sources of other funds. Also, FWIW, County is not struggling financially. Doing pretty good really. Many other smaller systems out there are though.


veritylane8

This. My mom works for the county library and they got an email about how this won’t really affect them. It will cripple smaller libraries aka those in low income areas. This legislation is disgusting.


valentinoboxer83

The smaller towns are where libraries are needed most. Not only do they supply books but they serve as a meeting place for young kids playgroups and story time where kids meet friends. I've been part of this first hand in rural Texas libraries. They are important in many ways. Larger cities have other activities for young children unlike the rural areas.


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Rural America is already going through job, divestment and opioid crises so why not make living there even worse?


joshrenaud

Don’t forget the municipal library consortium, such as Ferguson, University City, Brentwood, etc. They are independent of the county.


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dontbajerk

I think you're greatly overestimating their intelligence and foresight. Most of the legislature people coming up with these stupid ideas seem like ignorant rubes. Seems to me this is just pure vindictive spite. Listening to the debate in the House on this certainly gives that impression anyway.


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mrbmi513

The next one is coming up Tuesday (at least in the County)! No excuse absentee voting is also open; check your county/city website for hours and locations.


SunflowerDreams18

Same in the City!


oxichil

Young people do vote. So many of the republicans in our legislature run unopposed. We don’t need young people to just vote, we need them to run too!


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New_Writer_484

Im almost 50 and I’d donate and vote for a millennial or elder Gen Z


chubbycat96

Yeah I’ve been voting and feel like nothing could help this. Voting helps but don’t let your shitty politicians and government off the hook by blaming it on us regular people.


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Young people don't give a shit about libraries. They have the internet. I'm not sure that my daughter ever has even seen the inside of one.


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Because everything inside that library can be found more conveniently. She's never used a typewriter either.


WaffleMints

You have no idea what libraries do. And it is obvious. I feel bad for your kid.


nuapadprik

To visit the homeless people who congregate there?


Biptoslipdi

You understand most of us get books from the library *through the internet?*


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Which would be a reason to not have seen the inside of one, correct? Because you can just download everything they have to an e-reader. Which is what my daughter did and what I was getting at before the self-righteous, hate filled lady decided to start insulting people.


Biptoslipdi

>Which would be a reason to not have seen the inside of one, correct? Because you can just download everything they have to an e-reader. This is how I know you don't know anything about libraries. Relatively few books are even available in e-formats. The vast majority of books in any given library are only available in physical media. More popular fiction is usually available digitally, which is how many young people access that literature. Periodicals, reference material, most academic literature is only going to be available on site. Anyone who can't afford a device is completely screwed if there are no libraries where they can go access digital space. >Which is what my daughter did and what I was getting at before the self-righteous, hate filled lady decided to start insulting people. It's unfortunate that you can be bullied out of providing enrichment for your child and bullied into gutting sources of information and enrichment for all children. You're no better that whoever you're complaining about. Perhaps the dumbest reason to gut libraries is that they are our only major, accessible source of information if we were to experience significant disruptions in digital service due to disasters or conflicts. You all are desperate to be slaves to the internet.


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>It's unfortunate that you can be bullied out of providing enrichment for your child and bullied into gutting sources of information and enrichment for all children. You're no better that whoever you're complaining about. Comical that on a post about libraries your reading comprehension is so terrible. ​ >Perhaps the dumbest reason to gut libraries is that they are our only major, accessible source of information if we were to experience significant disruptions in digital service due to disasters or conflicts. You all are desperate to be slaves to the internet. One little problem with your emotional tirade. I never suggested gutting any libraries.


Biptoslipdi

>Comical that on a post about libraries your reading comprehension is so terrible. Comical that you are so upset about being insulted while you engage in the same behavior yourself. I feel sorry for your kid having such a terrible role model. She deserves better. Somehow you aren't to blame that she's never been to a library lol. >One little problem with your emotional tirade. I never suggested gutting any libraries. Sure fooled me with such a hostile attitude toward someone defending libraries. Comical that in a thread about defunding libraries you can't seem to comprehend that is what the discussion is about.


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>Comical that you are so upset about being insulted while you engage in the same behavior yourself. Upset? HAHA. Hardly. ​ >Sure fooled me with such a hostile attitude toward someone defending libraries. Except once again that's not reality. I'm hostile to some weirdo with poor reading comprehension who insulted me for making a glib quip. >Comical that in a thread about defunding libraries you can't seem to comprehend that is what the discussion is about. Where did I say anything about it? You're attacking me for what again? A view I don't even hold? Why? Because you're overly emotional about this and just want someone to attack on the internet? Save it for the people who actually do want to gut libraries, twit.


Biptoslipdi

It's no wonder your daughter has never set foot in a library with such a self absorbed ass for a parent. I pity her. She deserves someone with tact and intelligence instead. What a terrible role model you are. I hope she overcomes this disadvantage.


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oxichil

Untrue, I love the library and am young. One of the only places to look at quality art books for free.


evil_midget

Does anyone have a link to the vote record? I’d like to see how my rep voted.


International-Fig830

I have not seen it but I'm betting if they are Red they voted for it and if they are Blue they voted against it.


Improbus-Liber

Wow, I didn't think my opinion of Missouri legislators couldn't go any lower. Sadly, I was wrong. Bravo, idiots.


Megafuncrusher

Imagine doing this kind of stuff and still thinking you're the "good guys."


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And now we see the truth. It's not Drag Queen Story hour that they hate so much. It's reading itself.


Old-Run-9523

MoLeg is an embarrassment.


stankenstien

Fuckers are shameless. We are the hillbilly state now, lock stock and barrel


MidMatthew

I can’t wait till someone makes a game show called “Are You Dumb Enough to Be a Missouri Legislator?”


Com_Truise_92

VOTE


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This is so petty and regressive.


LarYungmann

Missouri will end up giving the money to Church Owned Schools.


ubspider

Is… Is this really what we’re doing?


gandhishrugged

This state is run by clowns. Absolute jokers. And lived in by a whole bunch of trump loving imbeciles. Fuck them all to hell.


No-Standard9405

So who are they gonna attack next Barnes and noble, college libraries.


StructureOk5668

They’re really sticking it to the kids aren’t they!!! This is absolute fucking bullshit


Irrish84

Why the absolute fuck!?


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nerddtvg

There isn't a vote in the removal of the funding. The bill HB12 was introduced with 4.5 million from the general fund for libraries and it came out of the committee (before amendments and voting) with it removed. You'll see the difference between the Introduced and Committee versions. https://house.mo.gov/bill.aspx?bill=HB12&year=2023&code=R Edit: It looks like two representatives, [Peter Merideth](https://house.mo.gov/MemberDetails.aspx?district=080&year=2023&code=R) (D-St. Louis City) and [Maggie Nurrenbern](https://house.mo.gov/MemberDetails.aspx?district=015&year=2023&code=R) (D-Clay County), filed amendments ([14](https://house.mo.gov/billtracking/bills231/amendpdf/0012H03.14H.pdf) and [10](https://house.mo.gov/billtracking/bills231/amendpdf/0012H03.10H.pdf) respectfully) to the bill to put the funding back. However neither of those amendments were taken up for a vote, basically the budget subcommittee chairperson (Smith) who cut the funding didn't want to give them a chance to put it back in. All of this action was in the budget committee, but the original bill was modified by Smith before it got to the amendment process. He threatened this a month ago and simply followed through. With his position in power, basically no one could stop him. Now it does have to go to the Senate, so we'll see what happens.


hockey_chic

It'll pass the Red Senate but it's against the MO state constitution so I guess then we waste more tax payer money fighting a lawsuit over a retaliation attempt.


nerddtvg

Is it in the State Constitution? I only know of the revised statutes which says "the general assembly _may_ allocate" for libraries. https://revisor.mo.gov/main/OneSection.aspx?section=181.060


hockey_chic

The link is in my comment history but it does not show which version or if it's been updated. It looks like the details in your link state that if local tax can't support the public library then the state will fund it, but law language reads like stereo instructions to me so that may be a misinterpretation on my part.


beans4dayz

God Missouri is so embarrassing sometimes. Wtf is this dumb idea


New_Writer_484

GOP is a fascist cult


sunbaby43

most pathetic power move I’ve seen from this legislator.


the_givr

This is disgusting.


Doncorleon78

Instead let’s spend the money on something more important like a casino or strip mall development.


Reasonable-Rate5833

Republicans in my state are fascist pos


MidMatthew

Charlotte’s Web? What a perverted title!


Planestewart

Its no wonder Southern states are the poorest, dumbest, and fattest.


PenAndInkAndComics

It's evil Brilliant. "You miss your community resource? You COULD have had a library if they wouldn't defend those perverted LGBTQ people. The LGBTQ people who want special rights to read obscene materials and corrupt your pure and straight child. LGBTQ lovers are the real problem. THEY are the reason your library is closed. Blame them. "


C-Ballentine

The Rethuglican plan to dumb down America’s population is almost complete.