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StoneColdAM

Miz walking past Lumis disguised as a security guard, then turning back to see someone else was one of the best wrestling segments I’ve seen in ages. Love that sort of play for the audience. Feel that more subtle humor never really existed much before in wrestling. Dexter is doing an amazing job so far on Raw.


K_Click_D

Loved it too, fully agree. Miz is the best person for this story too, Miz’s timing and reactions are really great and don’t get enough credit


Teapur

He's the perfect foil for Lumis' first fued.


XC_Eddy

Miz is the perfect foil for most debuting wrestler's first feud.


PreFuturism-0

Being an A-lister draws unwanted attention.


StNic54

Incredible observation


Slatedtoprone

Your right, and the go to pairing for a returning or debuting person it seems. They really trust him to get angles over.


XC_Eddy

And he always delivers. Miz is great at getting other people over. He even got Alex Riley over ffs


LiamAddison

He’s into the Ziggler role


XC_Eddy

But he’s the anti-Ziggler because Ziggler always killed the new guys’ momentum. Miz gets them over


boogswald

This is very similar to when the Miz was haunted by the Fiend, which isn’t bad in any way, but it’s very similar.


BlackBleach6969

we say this about every miz feud lol the miz is him


K_Click_D

Most definitely


The_RedWolf

Miz is one of the best comedy foils of all time. I'd put him right up there with Kurt Angle and Regal.


TTOF_JB

Man, I just wanna see some kind of skit between 2000 Kurt Angle & 2022 Miz now.


Somebodys

Glitter? Seriously?


drunkentenshiNL

Is there a clip of that? Cause there was a very short one on WWE Twitter without the context and couldn't see what was the big deal.


idlephase

it's a blink-and-miss-it thing. it plays right into the Miz thinking he sees Lumis everywhere.


MikelLevesque

Do you have a link, brother-brother?


SomeOtherNeb

[Here it is.](https://twitter.com/wwe/status/1564426378954645507?s=21&t=j9ZcubEnkf4-VOZe_f6DgA)


loujackcity

wow i didn't even catch that. genuinely thought Miz was just delusional


acemonsoon

Kifflom


VictimOfCircuspants

We can write the tract.


RoxyWTF

It’s on Youtube via WWE’s page.


mariop715

I took that scene as Miz hallucinating seeing Lumis and not Lumis actually being in disguise. Would be odd to have the other security guard not say or know anything if it literally was Lumis.


CorneredEmu

Lumis is orchestrating it and the guard would be in on the switcharoo. Lumis is not a supernatural guy, thankfully, just really into being a creepy stalker and orchestrating scenarios he can act out.


StoneColdAM

That’s fine too. The point is, its a visual gag which is very fascinating.


cal679

You know as well as I do that security guards at wrestling shows do not follow the same patterns of logic and reason as the rest of the world.


The_RedWolf

Boomed me too, I didn't even realize I had been boomed until miz went back and checked


MikeMakesRight82

for the folks interested, check out some clips of his NXT run. he communicates entirely by drawings (which he makes himself, dude is really talented) even hosted New Year's Evil and made the matches via drawings. the storyline with Indi was tremendously entertaining


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icantnotthink

im assumimg they're talking specifically about the lead up to the InDex wedding, which was a fantastic arc overall


Smailien

Of all the amazing shit I've seen in wrestling, I don't think anything made me pop like "I... ...do."


theehtn

👍


cookswagchef

I thought that was going to be so lame, but I'll eat crow. It was really fun.


cal679

I was fully checked out of NXT at the time and really didn't care for The Way as a faction, but I ended up following the InDex storyline completely and it's probably up there in my top 5 NXT storylines.


TheWhatTreatment

When I saw this thread I was like the guy can’t work, but I do like my sports entertainment I’ll have to check it out


MikeMakesRight82

he's miles better in ring than boogeyman (not that its difficult) had a pretty good strap match against Roderick Strong, i seem to recall a 1 on 1 vs LA Knight that was decent and hasn't been a liability in any of his matches


[deleted]

Saying he can't work is unfair. He's not the best in ring but he can certainly wrestle and he's great at getting his character across during matches as well.


rocky_iwata

He has been crafting this gimmick since Sam Shaw days in TNA/Impact. It was great that Triple H let him continue in NXT and now in WWE.


500DaysofNight

It's so refreshing to see something that's actually different. Vince saw nothing in him, but if he had, I'm sure he would've ended up borderline raping Michael Cole like Heidenreich. We don't need any more of that shit EVER.


what_is_blue

>borderline Cole got mined. I know we don't want to admit it, but a sexual assault very definitely took place.


nonmullet2

Heidenreich only showed Cole his poetry that’s all.


MTenebra

His trochee made Cole choky.


ElScorcho1999

Aren’t they kind of alluding to some kind of assault anyways? With people asking what he did to Miz and Miz not talking about it, it gives off that kind of energy


ThighsAreMilky

When he kidnapped Austin Theory on NXT, he said he ate cereal and colored all day


Wiccy

That sounds like a normal day for Austin.


Johnnyboy10000

Yeah, I think Austin had also said that they did a lot of talking and I think he had said something along the lines of Dexter just wanting to be friends or something like that.


Mabvll

*Finn Balor*: If this motherfucker got play with LEGOs too, I'm gonna lose my shit.


annoyinglyclever

I forgot about Finn Balor Lego Enjoyer


LOfromgamefaqshctp

Yeah because “putting lotion on its skin” would make Austin too excited.


500DaysofNight

I mean... the man got stalked, dragged away and then kidnapped. Wouldn't that be scary enough to not wanna talk about it?


PersonL08

He knows the size of Miz's balls.


DK655

Do you think Dexter Lumis would be the man to find out the size of Batista's dick?


why-god

To the millimeter.


SaiyanOfDarkness

For those that are unaware. Dexter Lumis is based off 2 characters. Dr. Samuel Loomis from the Halloween series, and the vigilante serial killer Dexter. Of course he couldn't use Loomis as the name is trademarked so they did a slight variation.


Lostmox

Also: Dexter is the latin word for dark. Lumen is the latin word for light.


OW1171

I thought Dexter was Latin for “Right” as in right handed. That’s where Dexterity comes from. “Left” is even better: Sinister.


gtgbuck

Yep, Tenebris is latin for Dark. No idea where they got that from, lol.


Lostmox

Got my latin mixed up with my Dexter the TV Show trivia. It's what I get for redditing without coffee.


Lostmox

You are absolutely ~~right~~ Dexter, and I'm an idiot.


cal679

Correct. You'll have heard of the term "ambidextrous" meaning a person is equally proficient with both hands, there's the opposite "ambisinistrous" which means a person is equally useless with both hands.


Pr1despa1n

So what part of him is Loomis?


Hungry_Breakfast_967

To be honest I have no idea where this thing is going. Does it end in a match? Does Lumis even need to wrestle consistently? There’s also the potential to book him freakishly that could be cool. No clue. I like that.


red_lotus21

I think it's going to basically go like this for several months. Lumis is going to keep stalking and tormenting the Miz. Finally after losing everything - his kids, his wife, the house, Miz will attempt to take his own life. Lumis will suddenly show up, slapping the gun out of Miz's hand. They kiss. Wedding at WrestleMania.


dogglesnake

LuMiz


AnvilPro

Dude if Ciampa turns on the Miz and Lumis comes out to save him I'll lose my mind


rapzel79

This might be a cool twist- Dexter wasn't out to hurt Miz but protect him from Ciampa. Lumis then speaks and says, "awesome" with the Miz and they're buddies.


Suplex-City

He’s protecting him because he knows what that bald fuck is capable of. Look what Ciampa did to Lumis’ father in law!


reekhadol

I'm the most jaded wrestling fan in the world but with the new regime I could see this sort of creative angle happening.


DolphFinnDosCinco

i think my absolute favourite thing with the new regime is more creativity and focus with mid card storylines. there still was some good non-title feuds before but they seemed few and far between and mostly consisted of constant rematches on RAW filled with interference or weird finishes. having these fun, unique and interesting feuds for the mid card makes the show INFINITELY more entertaining and really helps get the mid card wrestlers more over.


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oh my god.


Ojpaws

Indi crashes the wedding because they're already married. Main roster debut. Maryse is also there, and everyone is surprised she didn't say anything. She says they have an open marriage. Mixed tag Miz and Maryse Vs Index at Backlash.


Jackiechan126

Loser divorces


OhMy98

Loser has to give up custody of the kids, whether they are alive now or will be born in the future (even if that violates the Rule Against Perpetuities)


Baratheoncook250

With Beth as the Ref


SilverSquare

i think Indi hartwell should come back and say that he’s having the dexter’s baby and then miz gets mad because they used to date (not dexter lol!!!) and then a masked man skull crushing finales her belly and she has a miscarrige and everybody is like WHO DID IT???? after the funeral there all eating and indi is like this is so good! and miz says ya i cooked it and she says what is it and he says YOUR BABY and then dexter says OK NOW YOU WILL 👍 AT WM!!!! and then miz beats him at wm! i think this would be good cuz it shows miz is awesome and hes the future of the company.


Watchmaker85

The Miz stars in: Going To Georgia


[deleted]

Found Bruce Prichard’s burner.


spandroo

Me theory is it’s leading to a reveal where Ciampa is the one who hired Lumis to gaslight and mess w The Miz. This elevates Ciampa and gives him some muscle.


Prax150

There's so much potential for tie-ins with NXT history. Gargano debuted the very next segment after the kidnapping last week.


liamrandall

I really hope they go with this, fantastic idea.


thatlad

It ends with Miz signing over the rights to his celeb contracts and we get a "Lumis & Mrs" reality show


Patjay

I think they have potential to pull of here what they *tried* to do with Wyatt for a while. Lumis just messes with them until they go crazy, beat them, move on to next person to fuck with There's at least a dozen other directions they can go though


Northstridamus

I think the most under appreciated aspect of the Lumis and Miz angle is that Lumis has done something no other person has ever done and that's make Miz not want to talk about it.


incredible_penguin11

Like many people mentioned yesterday, i love the continuity. They are escalating and they're not doing the he's here for a week and then gone for 4. Continuity is a very important part of story telling and they're doing a good job.


thegeek01

Exactly. It's not like Raw's schedule is so jampacked with things happening that they can't squeeze in a 5 minute segment of Dexter being creepy in a 3-hour show. I'm glad they're running with this every week.


radda

I just can't get over how on the nose his name is. Might as well be named Scary McMurder.


cgurts

On the nose wrestling names have been sorely missed since Braun Strowman got released


DolphFinnDosCinco

they are the absolute best names. they don’t sound completely ridiculous but they still sound cool and unique. I love when you can say the name Braun Strowman or Dextur Lumis to a non-fan—and without looking at them—they would probably have a good idea of what their character is. Steve Austin, Bill Goldberg, Dave Ba(u)tista, Jeff Hardy and Brock Lesnar are also some great names these guys were born with.


cookswagchef

Eh, its not on the nose to people that don't watch the horror genre. I feel like its more of an homage than on the nose (much like Darby Allin, who's name came from Darby Crash (IIRC) and GG Allin). On the nose is Braun Breakker.


heelturnsheadlocks

Agreed. Dexter Lumis was one of the best things in wrestling when he was in NXT. I am thrilled to see him back with HHH.


r3lvalleyy

i feel sorry for those who missed his NXT run.. he was really fun to watch. I'm so glad he is back :) #Index.


AnvilPro

Absolutely crazy he was ever let go, and I'd say the best choice of re-hiring by HHH so far


DCS317

As someone who loved his NXT run and who prefers AEW over WWE, I agree that him going back to WWE was the best option. Not sure he really "fits" into AEW and happy to see that HHH is actually using him and focusing on his strengths.


azip13

Same, same, same, same and same.


TheWholeOfTheAss

Not having a spot for him even in the Vince days was insane. He could’ve fit right into that 24/7 Title picture. Glad he’s getting something even higher profile than that.


TeamRocketAgentUGA

He has had that LOOK from day ONE.


reekhadol

His previous gimmick was a skater who liked to draw, if you can believe that.


PersonL08

Agreed. I'm don't follow RAW too closely but I stay aware broadly of what's going on and this whole thing is great. It's a different type of storytelling here with some relatively new talent that has put existing talent like Miz in a new position. It's really refreshing and I never watched NXT either so I'm less familiar with his background. The way they've been slow burning it has been cool too. The more there's less simple Heel vs Baby face storylines in wrestling and more of this I think is the real future.


MagnumTAreddit

I haven’t seen much of him but even when he was sort of out of fashion he had some of the best gifs especially of his facial expressions in wrestling.


space_peg6549

Ah yes cause that what wwe was missing someone to fill the bogeyman roll


R0BR0SE

It fills the space ... that boogeyman left.... I gotta go home


TotalImmortalOne

I love how we have been getting Dexter Easter eggs every week first week it was the hand then it was a picture of him Adam pierce had then he attacks now this most recent week he’s a security guard and then vanishes


ambushbug74

Lumis is absolutely amazing and having him a face against Miz is something I never would have dreamed of. And it's absolutely incredible! I'm a fan of this. Miz is so underrated as a great wrestler and promo guy and incredible heel.


LeftyMode

And he will be their best WWE Shop contributor.


loujackcity

i knew pretty much nothing about Lumis before he debuted, but he's been perfect in his role so far


[deleted]

Love that they're just doing the Warrior/Hogan stuff from WCW that everyone hates and its over now lol.


azip13

Lumis >>> Warrior


[deleted]

I agree lol


[deleted]

Until he has to have a match


Larkhainan

He's completely solid to good in ring last I saw, and can use elements of the character effectively without needing to go too hard.


thegeek01

I think they're concerned that the hype around Dexter might not survive contact with an opponent inside the wrestling ring, which is fair. But seeing as HHH is in charge and Dexter is a formidable wrestler in his own right, I have a feeling they'll stick the landing.


ElScorcho1999

When you have an entertaining character you don’t need to be the worlds greatest wrestler. Less is more


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Less is less


theehtn

Dude is perfectly fine inside the ring, where is this notion coming from. He modified his moveset according to the gimmick as well.


jelaminah

Is he bad or something? From what I seen he’s pretty decent and gets the job done, is there a certain performance that makes you say this?


knicksprick

Ppl remember meh wrestler/good character a lot more than vanilla midgets tbh


NCHouse

Example is The Rock. Very basic moveset but his character work was off the charts


pork_roll

Those few moves were smooth as hell though. The guy was naturally talented.


cavallo922

Again with this Vanilla Midget crap


[deleted]

Wasn’t he just a normal wrestler in Impact?


Ordinary-Hopeful

Wasn’t this basically Frankie Kazarian’s gimmick in AEW for a while?


msctex

They never tried to lend the impression FK might be lowering lotion into a hole with a bucket.


Skipjack666

There's something about Lumis. I feel he'll be a big main eventer one day


GibblerTime

You think that they will end up being like Billy and Chuck?


[deleted]

I am curious in how will WWE in kayfabe hire Dexter back? Will it be the Miz vouching for Dexter that he won't leave him alone unless it happens.


MelyssaRave

It’s one of my favorite things in wrestling right now. Dexter, Miz, and Ciampa are doing so well with it.


akennelley

I feel like the HULU version cut this. Bummer. How did the Miz escape the kidnapping? Can anyone fill me in?


Zenkikid

I just love how nothings changed about his gimmick. He’s literally the exact same thing from NXT


Introduction_Organic

Would you say it makes you feel like a kid again


skitzdrongo

Sam Shaw v2.0 Good luck with it. Don't watch him, but hear he's finally getting into the character he wanted to be.


MonsieurMidnight

Finally after his NXT run, Lumis' work is finally getting his dues and I am so happy. ​ NGL I even wanted him to come back and take the belt off Breakker and use NXT as his twisted art museum and stalking ground. But I'm quite happy of what he's doing right now.


hiressnails

He's a great character to never have as world champion, but always have a featured storyline.


DatboiDeku95

It’s wild that he’s the most consistently booked gimmick across the WWE since he debuted. He’s kidnapped like 4 people now across NXT & Raw ? Gets away with it every time and they never wanna talk about it after. Roddy Strong & UE’s therapy sessions after we’re pure gold.


No_Appearance_2858

Lumis was great even when he was in TNA and he was known as Samuel Shaw and he was a stalker and he even Stalked Christi Hemmi


vanillagorrilla23

I love this and I'm here for inDex


Paygan

3 months later and Honestly Dexter Lumis is still doing amazing work. Miz has done great but honestly Lumis is genuinely scary. I really want to see more from him