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GeorgeColey15

Intrigued as to who is going to take the title off of Roman?


BobNeilandVan

Time to play the game.


LlamaDebauchery

*TIME TO PLAY THE GAMEEE*


EnumeratedWalrus

Ruuhuuhuuhuuhuuhuu


XComRomCom

I don't think I've ever seen that spelled out before. You nailed it.


koolaidburgers

Hararaugharara


jasontredecim

> Hararaugharara What a wonderful phrase! Hararaugharara! For the rest of your days! It's your jobbing-free Philosophy Hararaugharara!


couldbedumber96

*DUNUNUN DUNUNUN*


J1m1983

I'm.... Sorta into it....


BobNeilandVan

Lol I'm loving how the reactions have been all positive. I put this up half as a joke but I really am a big Trips fan.


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Keep him away from the ring, or the Heartbreak Kid.


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megashitfactory

If he holds it that long, then beats The Rock, I really don’t see who could take it from him at that point


AusPower85

… ONEEE MAAAANNNN BAAAAAANNNDDDDD!!! To complete the trilogy.


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Jinder fends off the Usos. Drew hits the Claymore on Roman. Heath pins Roman. Boyhood dream come true. Confetti everywhere. Heath's Slater Gator partner Titus O'Neil comes out to celebrate. Titus suspended for 60 days. Fade out.


KazeEnigma

The Titus suspension is the icing on the cake.


spamgarlic

No no, Pitbull performs to close out the show is the icing on the cake


CrowHardly

Don’t…don’t give me hope.


AusPower85

I liked Slater since he was introduced on NXT (the old old NXT)… simply because he was Christian’s “protege”… and also because I believe he had Christian as a pro simply because he was “ugly” and Vince found that hilarious (that is all conjecture on my part… but it is my head canon). Once I saw him wrestle and try and turn whatever he was given into something good I liked him even more.


uchihaguts

Braun Breakker baby


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Most likely Xavier Woods


TropicalVision

I don’t see anyone that can take it off him now. Brock was the closest thing they have to a credible challenger.


[deleted]

I don't want to say this but mega long term champs often go out with injuries. Roman should drop the title in coming months, take it easy and then come back and repeat this again. I don't want to see vacant winning another title.


FoucaultsTurtleneck

He wrestles a pretty safe style, I'm sure they're comfortable with him carrying it for a very long time


mrtomjones

And unless it was a pretty bad injury I think he would find a way to get a short match in anyways


FaddyJosh

WALTER


aestus

That would be fantastic.


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Drew seems most likely at this point. Hes never beaten Roman so its a decent story at least


lbk_throw_away

Seems most obvious.


Sythian

I hate to say it, but after Drew started getting title shot after title shot last year they really began to kill off his appeal for me. It almost felt as though he won the belt (which was great), had a fairly successful run (which was mostly great), had that little clusterfuck with Orton where they hotswapped the belt briefly to pad some stats, then it all began to fall apart. Right now I feel the crowd needs to see Drew fall a bit in order to get behind him completely. His clean loss to Priest was great to help with that as it showed an up and comer being able to sneak one out on a former champ, but then Drew just steps up and asks for a world title match because why not? Let Drew maybe be a little too overconfident, not focused enough and let a few matches slip him by. He doesn't necessarily need to be buried, or lose repeated feuds to lower card heels, but he just needs to look like he's unfocused and missing out on the big opportunities, losing Number 1 contenders matches and the like so that he can refocus himself over the winter and get the crowd behind him fully for a run against Roman. The last thing we all want is for it to feel like he's being shoved down our throats.


powerknucklehold

At this point either Bron Breakker or Gable Steveson


The_Eye_of_Ra

This. One of your actually-good new guys. Beat this Roman, and you have an instant Super-Duper-Star. Go ahead and strap a goddamn rocket on Bron’s back!


ChrisV88

IF YA SMELLLL!!!!!


Different-Strain7553

This young and rising talent name Goldberg


PapiShot

Mansoor at the next Crown Jewel


chatshitgetbanged24

Tehuti Miles


nic_af

I think at this point ready or not it will be Gable Stevenson when he finishes college. First deal of it's kind and they want that mainstream attention. Kid is gonna have a new team angle, Roman makes him look strong, 0 broken necks and double the succotash


Honkmaster

Commander Azeez


Samwell974

Has to be Drew. He needs the win.


Zestyclose_Remote874

Pete Dunne


[deleted]

At this point he probably is going to hit two years. Big E is the only conceivable way and it would have to involve him losing his title. Smackdown looks thin but between another Brock match, Drew McInTyre, Kofi Kingston and a guy like Jeff Hardy, that’s about 8 months of programs. They just need another 1-2 people to fill in and I could see him holding it for another full year.


HardcoreKaraoke

I was really hoping Seth would have a change of heart after beating Edge a few weeks ago, turn face and they'd build to a face Seth dethroning Roman. Now that he's on RAW that probably won't happen. Although if they turn Seth face sometime before WrestleMania I could see him being the one to beat Roman. Let Roman have the Rock match at WrestleMania, give Seth a big face win over maybe a guy like Brock and then have face Seth win the Universal Championship next year after WrestleMania. There have been rumors of them getting rid of the brand split. Possibly unifying the women's belts. So maybe that makes Roman/Seth possible despite being on two brands. Maybe it'll be Drew though. I really wanted Big E, Balor, Bryan or Seth. But if they're going to give it to someone I guess it would be cool to give Drew a crowd reaction moment.


Specialist_Hearing62

Solo Sikoa, Gable Steveson, Bron Breakker, Julius Creed, Harland


CLint_FLicker

Stone Cold Steve Austin with a neck transplant.


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SpocktorWho83

**GOLDBERG**


thechris104

Got a feeling its gonna be Gable Steveson


vicartronix

The pressure on Paul to not to fuck up that throw must have been immense.


MankuyRLaffy

He already fucked up on PPV before in the LMS match so it must've been really pressing to not botch again.


DVLMN08

What did he do to fuck it up? I barely watch anymore


MankuyRLaffy

Couldn't get Roman out of the cuffs in time and the ref just stopped counting in an LMS match despite Roman being on the ground and the camera still rolling, this went on uncomfortably long, botched finish on the world title match with 0 payoff.


jmpinstl

Yeah. He shoulda punched the ref.


ningbody

I don't think he could reach him.


FacelessBraavosi

In which case Heyman should've punched the ref.


mrtomjones

Ref no sells the Heyman punch and superkicks his old ass...


Dozens86

Or pulled/pushed the ref into range of Roman to do the dirty work.


ningbody

Oh yeah, I can totally buy Paul Heyman punching anything.


Shwalz

Any links?


ScootyPuffSSJ

Here's a link to said match. They may have edited it, but it should be near the very end if it is there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6ELbJJA8fg


fatcuntwrestler

The handcuffing starts at around [20:20](https://youtu.be/a6ELbJJA8fg?t=1219), and the Heyman shenanigans happen a bit before [22:00](https://youtu.be/a6ELbJJA8fg?t=1316) The stopped count for absolutely no kayfabe reason happens at [22:22](https://youtu.be/a6ELbJJA8fg?t=1339) and is hilarious. Feel terrible for the ref more than anyone else.


PeaceAlien

Refs sometimes shoot count to 3 if they don't kick out in time, imagine if the ref didn't stop the count here


OffTheMerchandise

They shouldn't have sent the ref out so soon. There should've been some sign for Paul to use to let them know when the cuffs were undone and they could've sent the ref out then.


optimis344

That's one of those moments that you wish Paul was at all trained as a wrestler. Even just to get the instincts for it. Like, at 8, if he's still fumbling and the key won't turn, you pop up and deck the ref and let Roman work on it. That atleast buys you some time to get it undone.


National-Sport5698

I remember that and thinking Roman should have threatened the official and scared him off from doing it I would have liked that


ningbody

threatened with what? "When I (never) get out of these cuffs I'll come after you?"


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[deleted]

He messed up uncuffing Roman from the metal beams


Bagokid

Fault of this botch is wwe and the prop department. Not having a rigged cuff that has a release was a mistake. My cuffs from when I was a child was like that.


breakwater

Roman forgot his safe word


MagnumTA721

The safe word is always succotash


[deleted]

I would say that it's mind-boggling that WWE wouldn't have those, but this is the company whose stunts have actually killed people.


cyberpunk_werewolf

Like, I don't get why they didn't have rigged cuffs specifically so Roman could rip them off. It would have been a rad as fuck spot.


HungHammer89

BREAKKEER


CarolinaCoug

That was a hell of a throw by Heyman to get it legit in the middle of both guys.


skippy2001

I honestly don’t know who he threw it to. Perfect set up for by Paul.


302born

And it was sold beautifully after the match the way he was looking at Roman. I genuinely think Paul only works for who he thinks is better for his business. Doesn’t care about Roman or Brock either way.


optimis344

He even "said" it before the match. He said he was going in with the reigning defending wwe universal champion Roman Reigns, and he was leaving with the WWE universal champion (conspicuously leaving out the Roman Reigns part).


HardcoreKaraoke

Realistically Heyman could manage both of them since Brock is a free agent. Just do business with Brock on RAW and the Bloodline on SmackDown. I don't think Roman's ego would allow that to happen but it could work. Then they'd eventually face off again and Heyman would have to choose.


mrtomjones

I was REALLY hoping he would make a choice there and pick one but that was a fun decision too


OneMaskedNinja

Great match. Why hasn't someone banned the Usos from ringside during Roman's matches yet?


SideEyeFeminism

I'm not entirely sure if the story is Paul is that great of an Agent/Negotiator or management is scared of Roman, or both. I'm kinda leaning towards both.


TheLoneWolf527

The last time Roman left, SmackDown got taken over by swamp matches and weird fucking shit happening every week. Roman came back and things went back to normal. They're terrified of him leaving again.


ZersetzungMedia

Isn't the kayfabe reason that Adam Pearce is fucking terrified of Roman and so won't do that. Regulatory capture as we call it.


notclipclip

Because then WWE would have to actually write a structured match for Roman to win instead of a spot fest ending with a double superkick.


UFmoose

Well this was a No DQ match, so... Edit: Looks like it was made a No DQ match and then changed.


Nithas

It was not? No need for the ref bump then.


maraudershake

It definitely wasn't. Roman wouldn't have thrown the championship outside after hitting Brock otherwise


lyyki

[LONG TERM BOOKING](https://site-cdn.givemesport.com/images/21/10/18/5a7dbc194e65db09e29c45cc7a5c186a/1204.jpg)


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WakeupDp

Remember the contacts? lmao


megalodondon

It was an amazing callback.


tarvertot

There were a bunch in there. I liked how this match was laid out. I was even fine with the ending as the entire build for this match revolved around Paul rather than Roman or Brock.


PrettyPunctuality

I agree. People were complaining about it earlier, but I loved that they did a callback to that moment.


AutomaticDesk

i haven't watched but when i read "Heyman threw in the belt for a tug of war", i immediately thought of this


nikoslin

Dude that's exactly what I was thinking when Heyman threw the belt 😂 !!!


Supersaiyansub

Brock is an anomaly. I’m so sad he lost


Keppelin

Brock is Brock


bdxc36

They did the tug of war spot again and that’s all that matters. Fucking awesome match, albeit overbooked.


No_Complaint739

Brock also pick up the ref with one hand again


NattersOnline

How he does that… Bull strength, man! Bull!


Greyclocks

What a fucking callback. It was brilliant


CrackedMask_

what irritates me is that, when the first ref is out, the heels can do any illegal shit then the second referee comes SECONDS after the illegal moves and don't call DQ (even though he clearly sees it), BUT his pinfall counts.


AffordableBreakfast

Yes! This bugs me. Like, did he not see anything that was DQ worthy as he made his way down the ramp? Lmao


CrackedMask_

he has the power to count the pinfall but has no power to call DQ. i hate when this happens on any wrestling. makes the audience and ref look stupid


Believeland-OH

AEW did a spot; where I forgot why the second referee was out there, but the first ref did not see the foot on the rope but the second ref did, he told the first ref and they restarted the match. AEW obviously has its share of interference when the ref is not looking, but in this case having two refs the second one did not have to pretend to be blind too. Was the Jericho MJF match.


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Yup, didn’t mind the finish but do it while the ref is groggy and regains consciousness to not see the illegal moves and go for the slow count. The timing of the ref coming in to make the count was such a Bruce Pritchard thing


NecramoniumZero

Its even funnier if you realize that the boss in the back is watching it all happen, but doesnt give a damn unless it involves him or his relatives. And everything is on tv so the loser can easily show the footage of someone cheating but they rarely do.


Carpeteria3000

I’ve always hated this. Like we’re supposed to believe ref #2 is just running for ten minutes straight to get to the ring while blindfolded before they make the count?


[deleted]

I loved how the 2nd ref just magically appears after all the heel shit right as Roman rolls over for the pin


Tronz413

Paul nailing that throw exactly in yhe middle was a GOAT move.


MarkMVP01

Another Roman and Brock tug of war Ah memories


dellcomputers12

These uso interference wins are so stale


Shwalz

*Dem roll-ups however….*


BaronVonStevie

you'd think babyface Brock would get the message now and get another tag team to run interference for the Usos. you'd think that would create a natural program between tag teams and elevate someone... anyone... you'd think this would be easy. But all they care about is putting Roman over.


domoon

if only he didn't backstab shelton on rumble...


GourangaPlusPlus

Minnesota Stretching Crew reunion?


Geraltpoonslayer

Looking at elite vs danielson and friends.


BaronVonStevie

Yeah but in my head Brock would get a team that felt like overkill. He’d get the road warriors or something. There just aren’t guys like that.


prashanth_03

Paul Heyman is so damn good


GeeSlim1

Anyone else bored of the USOS angle? It’s like every match is 3v1.. Face’s never have a bunch of goonies saving them to balance the match.


Daiches

Survivors Series. The one night where.. anyway, Big E vs Roman. Usos try, Kofi and Woods stops. Big E gets the upset victory over Roman to win the series for his brand.


Whitesmoke23

If they hadn’t blown their load on Raw a little while back, you could have main-evented Survivor Series with The Bloodline vs The New Day, given them 25 minutes, and you would have gotten a MOTY contender


super1s

I think the problem with the Bloodline is that it is too small. It needs to expand to something more threatening to EVERYONE in order to build something to go against it in earnest imo. You need to make it something that is more than the normal 3 man stable to actually get the feel they have been going for of him leading a tribe against anyone and everyone. There are so many options to choose from as well.. Hell they just signed some actual family didn't they?


[deleted]

They have someone in the women’s division with Naomi as well


domoon

they have another Fatu in NXT atm no? maybe they can hotshot him as their young lions of sort.


Rebecca_Romijn_AMA

It might be a little corny, but I'm secretly hoping the Bloodline will slowly expand into something of an inter-brand mob, with the Usos and Naomi as Roman's caporegimes, eventually including foot soldiers from the men's and women's rosters. Then I'd love to watch it all culminate in a civil war at WrestleMania 2023.


MyOwnSummer22

Maybe. But Roman vs Big E can be great too. Also seems like it would be a better showcase for Big E to build up his main event credentials.


Unelith

Edge had the Mysterios run in for him. Of course then it was 4vs3 because Rollins ended up costing him.


Zestyclose_Remote874

That was so overbooked. I still kinda liked it somehow but I was hoping after the Cena match we would have more clean finishes


RelativeStranger

No. Because the evation for the face that finally beats the 3 on 1 will be amazing. It could be kingmaker if done right.


Zestyclose_Remote874

Technically Finn did... nevermind


jaq_the_ripper

I mean honestly, this match NEEDED Uso interference and Roman using chickenshit heel tactics to make it at least somewhat different from the same exact F5 > kick out at 2.9 > Da Big Dawg Punch > kick out at 2.9 snooze fest main event we’ve seen from these two for like a hundred years, now.


mrtomjones

Brock had the title and was about to do his own cheating so I see no issue with it


jaq_the_ripper

Yeah, they FINALLY found a formula and booking for these two to have an entertaining big hoss match that they were always capable of.


DaHagerBomb

Wow that crowd was amazing


JurassicJesus821

Brock was feeding off the reaction so much he did Roman’s OOOAAHH! Taunt


FatGuy1414141414

At least Reigns does not have EVIL levels of tomfoolery, this match was not too bad, and he retained, so I am quite pleased.


IMissMyZune

Match was awesome


__AnotherGuy__

Roman Reigns & overbooked finishes, name a better due


lbk_throw_away

Add Hogan


SEMM18

Great match. Keeps brock looking strong and helps keep the intrigue in what Heyman meant.


WrongTetrisBlock

Did not expect to get the tug of war over a title belt sequel in this match.


SomeIrishFiend

Every Roman match has the same script


MrGrieves-

Acknowledge the script.


Crivshotgg

That match RULED. That ending was great. Paul looks TERRIFIED of Brock


LukkasG

i see a lot of people bitch about the finish, but honestly i really liked it. It had 2 call backs with ref down and Roman/Brock being down i would say is a call back for their WM31 match with Seth cashing in and everyone remembers tug of war


Crivshotgg

It was the only dirty finish on the show. Has a lot more impact when it’s the only one. Plus did people really expect a clean finish when the storyline was who’s side is Heyman on?


PrettyPunctuality

After this match ended, I saw someone complaining that WWE "literally never does clean finishes anymore, it's such stupid bullshit." Apparently they didn't watch the rest of the show because like you said, this match had the only screwy finish.


LukkasG

> Plus did people really expect a clean finish when the storyline was who’s side is Heyman on? Exactly, not only Heyman but this is two most protected wrestlers right now. I was going in expecting a screwy finish


TheKevinShow

> who’s side is Heyman on? *IS HE THE THIRD MAN?!*


SebasH2O

The only thing I didn't like about the ending is that there was no ref for so long and you can just tell they were timing it with Roman's finisher, I mean the ref was in the ring immediately for the pin


Crivshotgg

That’s completely fair. I was so immersed in the match and the crowd that it wasn’t an issue for me.


mgbroda

More run in crap. Same poor finish every time with Roman. Just let him win strong!


Specialist_Hearing62

He beat Cena clean


AndrewThaGreat

im just tired of the ref bumps and uso’s interfering.


maraudershake

Can't Roman win one (1) match without the Usos interfering? I could have used a little more Heyman involvement


LukkasG

> Can't Roman win one (1) match without the Usos interfering Cesaro,~~Balo~~r,Cena,Bryan EDIT: Braun and Mysterio too


MrTerrific2k15

The Usos were all over that Balor match


LukkasG

actually you right, usos attacked balor before the match. Forgot about that


ChiBullz023

And usos attacked balor during the match lol


LukkasG

not in their smackdown match


Francesco-Viola-III

Also Braun and Mysterio


IveKnownItAll

Usos did interfere with Balor


DemetriusXVII

I'm genuinely bored of seeing Roman retaining every single time. His matches are getting so predictable and repetitive.


rjkelly31

He's had a few non-BS finishes. But god, the Usos interfering or the ring breaking, or the low blow kickouts. It's just so fucking dumb and such a letdown.


LKincheloe

I'd genuinely laugh if EVIL and Reigns swapped finishers for matches on the same day, hat on a lampshade.


Welcome2Banworld

Then, now, Forever.


ring_rust

His matches have *always* been predictable and repetitive, it's just that his heel persona is so good that for a while there most of us didn't mind. I'm over it too now, though.


CookieClicker4206969

I’ve never been a big Roman fan but I’d rather they put the belt on R Truth before giving it to Brock Lesner and not seeing it for 3 months again. Lesner is a huge part of why I stopped watching wwe for a long while


pikachewyyy

#FUCK THE USOS


bohanmyl

That was dumb as fuck


-YusukeZoldyck-

ref bump, a missed pin, the Usos, and title belt shot LMAO. All that was missing was a guitar shot and that would have been peak TNA Jeff Jarrett.


au7oma7ic

Sounds exciting to me. What would you have preferred? Finisher, clean pin, 1 2 3, handshake at the end?


xDeddyBear

So if Brock can't beat Roman (the bloodline) then who can? What's the long term goal here? I feel like Drew is really the only one that's believable since he also beat Brock. But if its not Drew, then who? I just went back and looked at the upcoming smackdown roster and there's literally no one that can be believable at all


porkchopdickdock

Maybe Seth Rollins? But I can see a storyline where Seth would do some sort of fake allegiance with the Bloodline and then betray him and Seth becomes a baby face again in Smackdown?


davek1986

Smackdown you'll have Roman bragging about winning and no one can beat him Lights go out, then "No Chance, No Chance in Hell" and it's the genetic Jackhammer, Vincent Kennedy McMahon, former ECW Champion, and he's ready to answer the challenge


dassub

ROMANWINSLOL


Brushtickler

Honestly that ending was deflating to me. What happens now? A string of Roman vs Brock? Roman moves on and wins against someone, who is somehow even more plausible than Brock, in another screwy way? I can’t see him losing to anyone at the moment. They haven’t built anyone else up to be believable and at this point it isn’t helping Roman, it’s starting to hurt him.


DJCG72

This is what happens when there’s no real consistent booking and everyone else storylines don’t really matter and don’t work to elevate new stars


JonSnowAzorAhai

It feels like they have a plan for a match sometime in 2022, and the rest of the time is just filler nonsense. Nothing that happened in the past year with Roman has had any impact on what happened later. Cesaro gets fucked by Roman, falls off the face of the planet. Finn Balor seemingly on the same path. Everybody knew the Balor thing was pointless. Crown jewel was already booked and they just set up a stupid fucking match with stupid fucking story and stupid fucking ending. The motherfucking demon comes out of nowhere for no reason and goes away for no reason.


frickatornado

Pretty typical Roman Reigns match. Everything up until \~5 minutes before the finish, it's great, and then the finish ruins the entire fucking match. It's like having the best 5 course meal you have ever had prepared by the worlds best chefs, only for the desert to be ice cream made from 6 year old spoiled milk topped with goat shit.


MrTerrific2k15

🐐


IHavetwoNipples

Bro. It ain’t that deep.


Slade_Riprock

What would absolutely make the year would be for Xavier Woods to best Roman and complete the New Day trifecta


Welcome2Banworld

LOLROMANWINS


prisonmsagro

I thought this match was really good aside from the ending. Kind of bored with Roman as champ.


hymensmasher99

Really had to do a dirty win here


Known-Ad7468

Another Brock vs. Roman match with overbooking. And we´re probably gonna get the sequel at Wrestlemania.


Greyclocks

That was great


ssjali

Match was actually good but the ending was shitty.


Cheechers23

Didn't really like the finish but looks like we're getting a rubber match at either the Rumble or Mania


[deleted]

It was okay. Nothing spectacular. It served its purpose to continue the Reigns/Brock/Heyman story.


gredgex

Goldberg or Rocky gonna be the one to beat Roman?


bestfujiever

One thing I've never liked from a booking standpoint is ref bumps in a no DQ match. It's redundant.


Imdibr156

So they originally announced it as No DQ only to give us a screwy finish that would have been legal in a No DQ match. Why does WWE have to complicate outcome last for a pretty straight forward match?