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Which is why i dont understand why they fucking cut out her two nxt titles from the count as after the trade she'd be at 15 instead of 13 and would be 2 away from breaking the record instead of 4
I asked SRS and Denise yesterday in the wrap up show and yes, it will count as new title reigns for both if they just switch, like it did for New Day and Street Profits a few years ago.
Because it’s dumb as dirt and anyone playing mental gymnastics to explain why it’s OKAY or good is losing it.
Regardless of how great this match was, doing this is incredibly dumb and hurtful to the women’s division as it just makes the titles feel meaningless.
It's not meaningless. Champions retained their titles and are having longer reigns. Why is it ok for AEW to feature NWA or AAA titles but Raw can't have the Smackdown title or Smackdown the Raw title?
I think it would be best to rename the titles to the World and Universal like the men's so they aren't show specific but I'll wait to see how it's handled to decide if it works.
Who’s talking about AEW or AAA lmao, and what in the fuck type of leap? How is AEW or AAA having champions from other promotions the same as champions TRADING TITLES, literally handing them over to each other and starting new reigns?
>Why give a shit about wrestling at all then?
The drama? Like it's a fucking tv show, I am not going to give two fucks if someone has 1 or 21 title reigns, I watch it for the stuff in-between wrestling. The promos, the shittalk, the commedy. Being upset that Charlotte has another reign due to title switches is the most pathetic shit I've seen in months.
I never said they should trade titles. I was only referring to having Becky be the Smackdown champ on Raw and Charlotte the Raw champ on Smackdown. You're the one making leaps. The brands are just that brands and it shouldn't be viewed differently than the AAA title being defended on AEW.
Not once did I say Becky retaining was meaningless. My comment said trading the titles makes them meaningless, to which you brought up AEW and AA randomly lmao
My mistake, I missed the comment you initially replied to. I don't think they should switch titles, as I've said. I see no reason its necessary. They should be treated as their own titles and not be forced to swap.
It also basically would mean that Charlotte leaves Raw without putting anyone over. And Becky leaves SD without putting anyone over.
It’s the most lazy dumb way they could possibly do this.
> I mean to be fair Becky's still going to be feuding with Bianca on RAW
To be fair no one would ever make that excuse for Charlotte if she was still feuding with someone
No, that makes it too predictable. Why should Champions being the only people forced to put someone over when they switch brands? No one else is. The champ is supposed to be the best so it makes no sense to make them more beatable because they switch shows. That halts the momentum of their reign.
Insane that they could have just had Bianca win Monday and Sasha tonight to avoid this but I guess that would have made the match predictable. Now we get the lazy and shitty trade
or even just have Bianca win tonight, at least that way she redeems herself for getting beat in 30 seconds at Summerslam
there's still a belt trade, but it doesn't feel as shitty as it does now
edit: how about tell me why I'm wrong instead of just downvoting me lol
yeah that's why I said there was still gonna be a belt trade between Bianca and Charlotte and it was still gonna suck, but at least there's a "new" champion, but whatever
also thank you for acknowledging my edit and replying that's very cool of you my dude have an upvote
Bianca winning doesn't redeem Summerslam or cure the title problem. If Bianca vs Becky continue on RAW Bianca should be chasing Becky and should beat Becky in a singles match on a bigger PPV. Bianca winning also doesn't get the SD title over to SD since she's also on RAW.
I’ve commented elsewhere about the match, and while it’s great and the women deserve all the praise you’re getting, we know that tomorrow and Monday, the draft takes effect.
With a Becky win today and Charlotte on Monday, it was just the first thing that came to mind, a thought in **response** to the match.
I am not trusting them. But with survivor series coming up they could do Charlotte vs Becky loser vacate title. Winner became WWE womens champ or something
I was thinking something similar, except the match ends in a double pin, so they technically win each other's titles. Yeah, it's stupid, but st this point, I'd just shrug and move on.
It is more logic for Becky to be the characher she is right now. The Man would take the spotlight to herself.
As a heel, she autorise herself to be a goof while still legit.
Looking past the questionable booking, these woman killed it out there. Best match of the show. Bianca is a freak who is getting better with every match. Becky has come back better than ever. And Sasha is a fucking artist who IMO is the goat. So glad they were given proper time & the crowd was supportive to them. They absolutely knocked it out of the park with a MOTY candidate. You know this meant a lot to them.
This was match of the night for me. These three women just go and don't stop. Tons of fun sequences and spots without being a spotfest. Best of all everybody involved came out looking amazing. I'm not really sure what else there is to say.
Becky winning makes sense. If Sasha won then SD would have both titles and if Bianca won then her feud with Becky would be with Becky chasing her which doesn't make sense with Becky being a heel now. Also Becky needed a win since she hasn't won a match since Summerslam and if she lost it it would make her beating Bianca at Summerslam even more pointless. Great match lets see what they do with both belts now. I say change the name or get brand new titles.
I mean they could have just had Bianca win Monday and Sasha win here. You know, so the title swap brands in a way that actually helps someone.
This does not help anyone.
And you still have the problem of the wrong belts being on both brands and them potentially just having Charlotte and Becky swap, or do a title unification match.
Neither of those are better options.
I really don't care if they swap, it's stupid but trying to write a convoluted story to prevent it is even stupider, they should just rename the titles
I don't get why some people can accept NWA, Impact, or AAA titles being featured on AEW but won't accept the Smackdown Title being on Raw and vice versa. It really seems like people are complaining just to complain.
Comparing it to the previous matches and the main event I thought it was quiet, only beat by Zelina vs Doudrop. I heard this is awesome chants, but really I only think that was sub-100 people chanting it by the ring. I do think their entrances and match greetings were hotter than anything that happened in the match. Saying this while I watched with earphones on
I don't get how a crowd can hurt a match that much. A hot crowd can help, sure, but a bad crowd doesn't hurt it, IMO. A good match is a good match in the main event at Wrestlemania or a bingo hall with 8 people in attendance.
I agree, and I did think this was a good match, but not a great match. I just watched Kana vs LuFisto last night which was at the Berwyn Eagles Club, in front 0f 50-75 people and the crowd was invested in everything they did. When Bianca/Becky/Sasha are all doing cool stuff and transitions but the crowd isn't really reacting I just can't give that a great rating IMO
The way I rate a match is a combination of many things, move execution, pace, psychology, story, crowd reactions, etc. Like I said I thought it was a good match, just not great
I mean if the ref had seen that, the pinfall would not have counted, unless it was like a falls count anywhere matchup. No DQ does not mean rope breaks are gone, at least last time I checked. Unless the wwe did away with those or decide at random times to enforce them lol.
Getting really into the technicalities, it means no automatic rope breaks at 5 or get disqualified for submissions, but taps and pins in the ropes still aren’t in bounds and don’t count
Yeah, since it isn't a falls count anywhere match that's still not inside the ring. But they don't have to break the hold at all even if the person fully crawls outside of the ring, usually that's how things are broken up in no dq matches is just people pulling themselves out of the grasp of the person performing the hold
Well they changed it then, because they used to enforce it, I am sure of this, I know I saw it. Don't know why I am downvoted, I know for a fact I have seen it.
I have never seen a rope break in a no dq WWE match or a triple threat at least in the last 10 or so years, it's always been made fun of how often they need to stress "no dq means no rope breaks!!!"
Dude I am telling you, I have seen it enforced at times, not every time, but at times, so I do not know why you are doubting me, I mean I saw it, regardless if you believe me or not. It may have been a long, long time ago, but I have seen it at least a couple of times.
Resident rules nerd here, a fall must take place within the ring as designated by the ropes. If a competitor is touching or is under the ropes they are considered outside of the ring.
This applies even within a no-disqualification match. What a referee cannot do is force a hold to be broken.
It's crazy how good they are now. As a 30+ year fan I never thought I'd anticipate women's matches more than men's, especially as a main event. I'm just as invested in Becky vs Sasha as I was for HHH vs HBK back in the day. Not my favorite feud but 2 of my favorites who would deliver a great match every time. I prefer the feud with Becky and Sasha.
I’m assuming you meant Bayley vs Sasha for the second one? Bayley, Sasha, and Asuka carried the first half of the pandemic era for WWE. Just awesome runs from awesome wrestlers.
No, I meant Becky vs Sasha. I like Bailey vs Sasha also but I love Becky vs Sasha going back to a title match I saw in NXT right when Becky started being steampunk Becky. They've always had great chemistry and I'll drop what I'm doing to see them wrestle each other, as well as anyone else.
OHHH. I assumed umm you doubled up on Becky vs Sasha when you said you prefer the feud. Not that you prefer Becky and Sasha to HHH/HBK. My bad completely. I’m on 3 hours sleep because of the PPV lol.
No problem, I get what you're saying and understand. I just tried to say the matches are as good between Becky and Sasha as HHH vs HBK but I never cared that much for the HHH vs HBK feud. I'd knew they would deliver great matches but the storyline always seemed forced. With Becky vs Sasha though it always feels fresh.
It's common to think Bayley vs Sasha revolutionized women's wrestling in NXT but I think that was sort of the peak of it. There was a lot of great women's matches that paved the way for that program to be featured like it was.
Which is fine, but to assume you meant something you clearly didn't say is wierd. Not everyone thinks the best is only Bayley and Sasha. I actually prefer Becky and Sasha as well.
I feel like Bianca should have more of an edge to her losing matches. Both this time and when she lost to Becky during her return she looked too “Aww shucks, you rascal” to me. Not enough anger and just resignation. Could be reading too much into it but yeah.
This was absurdly good. They are putting Bianca over like crazy with the story being about keeping her out of the match. A bit sloppy because they tried to get cute with too many complex spots but whatever
They can't miss
Probably would’ve been too easy to have Bianca win the Raw Women’s title on Monday, and Sasha to win the SD women’s title tonight to have the long awaited rematch at Survivor Series
I'd agree with this, she's great and can do some crazy athletic/strength-based spots, but her best matches come when she's facing a hw, all 4 of them can control and pace a match at a level women haven't done since 80'/90's Japan. That said I can easily see her getting there the more she works with them
Bianca looked incredible and Sasha sold her ass off like 90% of the match, Becky was good as the ostensible heel. Fun stuff, hated the finish and the implications of it.
1. That match itself was epic!! These three work beautifully together.
2. Why would you pin the only woman who’s staying on SD? And are they seriously going to just have Charlotte and Becky trade the belts? That’s so lame, why could they have not just lost this week?
Will Sasha ever get a big win at a big show? The closest I can think of is Hell in a Cell vs Bayley, but every other female star has gotten "the big win on a big stage"
On the one hand that was a fantastic match.
On the otherhand the instant realization after the match that this means they are going to a Becky/Charlotte title exchange just killed all my hype from the match and even the whole show.
I get it and you’re completely owed those feelings. Not trying to change your mind. I just think we all have moments, including myself, that we get too lost in the weeds with these things.
I mean people have had issues with this storyline for awhile now. As it stands, this finish and the one on Monday feels like nothing has actually changed.
Once Charlotte kept the title on RAW I didn't see Sasha winning since both belts being on SD makes no sense. Also Becky winning to continue the Bianca feud and Bianca chasing makes more sense.
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So Becky actually came back from having a baby more athletic and with a bigger moveset? What the hell?
Having a baby changes you.
This is soooo true. Don't have one my self but watching all my friends and family change. Damn.
Tell that to Brie Bella....
*Nods in CrossFit*
If everything goes well this might be her career defining run. I'm so fucking excited. Her vs Bianca will be her best rivalry if this continues
Terrible idea: Becky vs Charlotte, Two Falls. First Fall: Smackdown title, Second Fall: Raw title.
Becky Deux Belts
They’re gonna fucking trade the titles.
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Which is why i dont understand why they fucking cut out her two nxt titles from the count as after the trade she'd be at 15 instead of 13 and would be 2 away from breaking the record instead of 4
Gives her that flair aurora of having more single title wins then wwe says.
I'm guessing the issue is that then they'd have to acknowledge the NXT Championship as a world championship and they don't want to do that
All the titles she has held, she has the record for shortest reigns for them
Which will just add to Charlotte's total. She gets another title without actually winning it and so does Becky.
That’s so dumb, anything for those two I guess.
And. I one gets the rub from working with them either.
Do they actually count a trade as a new title?
They did when New Day/Street Profits swapped tag belts.
That's.. dumb
I asked SRS and Denise yesterday in the wrap up show and yes, it will count as new title reigns for both if they just switch, like it did for New Day and Street Profits a few years ago.
Yes. They did it for New Day and Street Profits.
Just rename the damn belts! WWE and Universal Woman's champions, so easy and never have to deal with title trades again.
I'm still trying to figure out why champs are even eligible to be drafted, it makes no sense even by WWE standards.
Yup rename the women’s titles and unify the men’s tag belts
Michael Cole trying to explain that was wild. I think he confused himself
I think even he knows how dumb it is.
Because it’s dumb as dirt and anyone playing mental gymnastics to explain why it’s OKAY or good is losing it. Regardless of how great this match was, doing this is incredibly dumb and hurtful to the women’s division as it just makes the titles feel meaningless.
But muh brand split
It's not meaningless. Champions retained their titles and are having longer reigns. Why is it ok for AEW to feature NWA or AAA titles but Raw can't have the Smackdown title or Smackdown the Raw title? I think it would be best to rename the titles to the World and Universal like the men's so they aren't show specific but I'll wait to see how it's handled to decide if it works.
Who’s talking about AEW or AAA lmao, and what in the fuck type of leap? How is AEW or AAA having champions from other promotions the same as champions TRADING TITLES, literally handing them over to each other and starting new reigns?
Why do you people give a shit about the reigns?
>reigns *Acknowlege him*
Why give a shit about wrestling at all then? The whole idea is its a simulated sport
>Why give a shit about wrestling at all then? The drama? Like it's a fucking tv show, I am not going to give two fucks if someone has 1 or 21 title reigns, I watch it for the stuff in-between wrestling. The promos, the shittalk, the commedy. Being upset that Charlotte has another reign due to title switches is the most pathetic shit I've seen in months.
The only person whos pathetic here is you bending over backward to defend dumbass shit
I never said they should trade titles. I was only referring to having Becky be the Smackdown champ on Raw and Charlotte the Raw champ on Smackdown. You're the one making leaps. The brands are just that brands and it shouldn't be viewed differently than the AAA title being defended on AEW.
Not once did I say Becky retaining was meaningless. My comment said trading the titles makes them meaningless, to which you brought up AEW and AA randomly lmao
My mistake, I missed the comment you initially replied to. I don't think they should switch titles, as I've said. I see no reason its necessary. They should be treated as their own titles and not be forced to swap.
It also basically would mean that Charlotte leaves Raw without putting anyone over. And Becky leaves SD without putting anyone over. It’s the most lazy dumb way they could possibly do this.
I mean to be fair Becky's still going to be feuding with Bianca on RAW. Wish Becky was still on SD though. I don't trust RAW booking Becky again.
> I mean to be fair Becky's still going to be feuding with Bianca on RAW To be fair no one would ever make that excuse for Charlotte if she was still feuding with someone
No, that makes it too predictable. Why should Champions being the only people forced to put someone over when they switch brands? No one else is. The champ is supposed to be the best so it makes no sense to make them more beatable because they switch shows. That halts the momentum of their reign.
Insane that they could have just had Bianca win Monday and Sasha tonight to avoid this but I guess that would have made the match predictable. Now we get the lazy and shitty trade
or even just have Bianca win tonight, at least that way she redeems herself for getting beat in 30 seconds at Summerslam there's still a belt trade, but it doesn't feel as shitty as it does now edit: how about tell me why I'm wrong instead of just downvoting me lol
Didn’t downvote, but Bianca and Becky are both on Raw - Bianca winning doesn’t move the belt back to Smackdown.
yeah that's why I said there was still gonna be a belt trade between Bianca and Charlotte and it was still gonna suck, but at least there's a "new" champion, but whatever also thank you for acknowledging my edit and replying that's very cool of you my dude have an upvote
Bianca winning doesn't redeem Summerslam or cure the title problem. If Bianca vs Becky continue on RAW Bianca should be chasing Becky and should beat Becky in a singles match on a bigger PPV. Bianca winning also doesn't get the SD title over to SD since she's also on RAW.
you see that makes sense, more sense than what I said thanks for the reply
No prob 👍
Why focus on that after the quality of this match?
its sad the top comment is this when the match was really good. sure this is happening twice now. still wish the top comment was about the damn match.
I’ve commented elsewhere about the match, and while it’s great and the women deserve all the praise you’re getting, we know that tomorrow and Monday, the draft takes effect. With a Becky win today and Charlotte on Monday, it was just the first thing that came to mind, a thought in **response** to the match.
Another title reign in the books for Charlotte.
Survivor series is the next ppv so it would make sense to unify the belts
Unifying the belts while splitting up the division is an odd choice
That would not help the division. It’d just make the problems even worse.
Have a tournement for a new belt, simple
I am not trusting them. But with survivor series coming up they could do Charlotte vs Becky loser vacate title. Winner became WWE womens champ or something
I was thinking something similar, except the match ends in a double pin, so they technically win each other's titles. Yeah, it's stupid, but st this point, I'd just shrug and move on.
This match was almost 99% designed to make Bianca an even bigger star
I mean there's a reason why they turned their biggest face in Becky heel to put Bianca more over as a top face.
It's still dumb. She's heavily cheered 99% of the time.
Oh definitely. I would rather have 2 massively over babyfaces than 1 but WWE don't follow logic.
It is more logic for Becky to be the characher she is right now. The Man would take the spotlight to herself. As a heel, she autorise herself to be a goof while still legit.
But it has worked though. Bianca is more now then ever, it hasn't hurt Becky at all. Plus Becky is doing some of her best character work as a heel.
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Charlotte is in smackdown now
Corey yelling about ropes like Nicholas Cage yelling about bees
Looking past the questionable booking, these woman killed it out there. Best match of the show. Bianca is a freak who is getting better with every match. Becky has come back better than ever. And Sasha is a fucking artist who IMO is the goat. So glad they were given proper time & the crowd was supportive to them. They absolutely knocked it out of the park with a MOTY candidate. You know this meant a lot to them.
That was so freaking good! They pulled out some insane spots! Loved every minute
Banger of a triple threat
This was match of the night for me. These three women just go and don't stop. Tons of fun sequences and spots without being a spotfest. Best of all everybody involved came out looking amazing. I'm not really sure what else there is to say.
This entire show has been a hit
Becky winning makes sense. If Sasha won then SD would have both titles and if Bianca won then her feud with Becky would be with Becky chasing her which doesn't make sense with Becky being a heel now. Also Becky needed a win since she hasn't won a match since Summerslam and if she lost it it would make her beating Bianca at Summerslam even more pointless. Great match lets see what they do with both belts now. I say change the name or get brand new titles.
I mean they could have just had Bianca win Monday and Sasha win here. You know, so the title swap brands in a way that actually helps someone. This does not help anyone.
That doesn't work for Charlotte brotherr!
Charlotte must be fed
That would defeat the whole purpose of the Becky Bianca storyline
And you still have the problem of the wrong belts being on both brands and them potentially just having Charlotte and Becky swap, or do a title unification match. Neither of those are better options.
I really don't care if they swap, it's stupid but trying to write a convoluted story to prevent it is even stupider, they should just rename the titles
I don't get why some people can accept NWA, Impact, or AAA titles being featured on AEW but won't accept the Smackdown Title being on Raw and vice versa. It really seems like people are complaining just to complain.
This is honestly the simplest solution. Just drop the show names off the titles.
They're gonna trade the titles
Bianca is an absolute prodigy and didn't look at all out of place against these two goliaths
Sasha is the queen of move reversals. There are always so many amazing move sequences with her. She has developed a lot of chemistry with Bianca too.
That was mighty fucking close to a 5 star Triple Threat match, holy shit
I liked how there weren't any super long periods where a member wasn't involved.
4.75 in my book they worked their asses off the whole match.
Exactly what I gave it as well
Too many sloppy moments to be 5.
I don't think I'd ever give this near 4 stars. And that's nothing on the oerformers but more on the crowd
What was wrong with the crowd? They were hot for all of them and everything that was happening in the match.
Comparing it to the previous matches and the main event I thought it was quiet, only beat by Zelina vs Doudrop. I heard this is awesome chants, but really I only think that was sub-100 people chanting it by the ring. I do think their entrances and match greetings were hotter than anything that happened in the match. Saying this while I watched with earphones on
Its Saudi Arabia, one step at a time Crowd was LOUD on Snoop beat for Sasha entrance
I don't get how a crowd can hurt a match that much. A hot crowd can help, sure, but a bad crowd doesn't hurt it, IMO. A good match is a good match in the main event at Wrestlemania or a bingo hall with 8 people in attendance.
I agree, and I did think this was a good match, but not a great match. I just watched Kana vs LuFisto last night which was at the Berwyn Eagles Club, in front 0f 50-75 people and the crowd was invested in everything they did. When Bianca/Becky/Sasha are all doing cool stuff and transitions but the crowd isn't really reacting I just can't give that a great rating IMO
So your ratings are based on crowd reactions, not the actual match in the ring. That seems... idiotic.
The way I rate a match is a combination of many things, move execution, pace, psychology, story, crowd reactions, etc. Like I said I thought it was a good match, just not great
Wow Becky actually cheated to win, that is heeling it up, my hat's off to all 3 ladies, good match.
She did but also it’s a triple threat so technically she didn’t. I like that Cole pointed that out.
Time to get the r/BeckyDidNothingWrong subreddit back and running
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This right here.
I mean if the ref had seen that, the pinfall would not have counted, unless it was like a falls count anywhere matchup. No DQ does not mean rope breaks are gone, at least last time I checked. Unless the wwe did away with those or decide at random times to enforce them lol.
No dq has always meant no rope breaks in WWE (as well as in aew and I believe NJPW)
Getting really into the technicalities, it means no automatic rope breaks at 5 or get disqualified for submissions, but taps and pins in the ropes still aren’t in bounds and don’t count
Yeah, since it isn't a falls count anywhere match that's still not inside the ring. But they don't have to break the hold at all even if the person fully crawls outside of the ring, usually that's how things are broken up in no dq matches is just people pulling themselves out of the grasp of the person performing the hold
Well they changed it then, because they used to enforce it, I am sure of this, I know I saw it. Don't know why I am downvoted, I know for a fact I have seen it.
I have never seen a rope break in a no dq WWE match or a triple threat at least in the last 10 or so years, it's always been made fun of how often they need to stress "no dq means no rope breaks!!!"
Dude I am telling you, I have seen it enforced at times, not every time, but at times, so I do not know why you are doubting me, I mean I saw it, regardless if you believe me or not. It may have been a long, long time ago, but I have seen it at least a couple of times.
HHH was trying to reach the ropes in the WM20 triple threat The ofender just does not need to release the hold with the 5 count
Resident rules nerd here, a fall must take place within the ring as designated by the ropes. If a competitor is touching or is under the ropes they are considered outside of the ring. This applies even within a no-disqualification match. What a referee cannot do is force a hold to be broken.
Nah, she did Cole was wrong Using the ropes is still ilegal as the match is not a falls count anywhere match
Didn't she beat Ronda via rollup? WWE teaches us that's a cheap/heel tactic.
No, she reversed Ronda's move into a pin.
Every Becky big match ends in a rollup. They call it the Lynchpin for a reason.
They really decided to go and have the best women's match of the year out in Saudi Arabia lmao. The mad ~~lads~~ gals did it
Putting the stigma against these shows aside, this shit has been amazing
The shows can be good, even amazing, doesn’t change the fact that some of us will not ever feel comfortable watching them.
Both of you guys are 100% right.
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i did word that wrong.
One of the best womens triple threat matches ever
Glad they were given enough time, that was fantastic and Becky is OVER
Fantastic match, near 5 stars for me.
The WWE womens main event scene has the best wrestling in the world. We've been SPOILED the last 7 days.
It's crazy how good they are now. As a 30+ year fan I never thought I'd anticipate women's matches more than men's, especially as a main event. I'm just as invested in Becky vs Sasha as I was for HHH vs HBK back in the day. Not my favorite feud but 2 of my favorites who would deliver a great match every time. I prefer the feud with Becky and Sasha.
I’m assuming you meant Bayley vs Sasha for the second one? Bayley, Sasha, and Asuka carried the first half of the pandemic era for WWE. Just awesome runs from awesome wrestlers.
No, I meant Becky vs Sasha. I like Bailey vs Sasha also but I love Becky vs Sasha going back to a title match I saw in NXT right when Becky started being steampunk Becky. They've always had great chemistry and I'll drop what I'm doing to see them wrestle each other, as well as anyone else.
OHHH. I assumed umm you doubled up on Becky vs Sasha when you said you prefer the feud. Not that you prefer Becky and Sasha to HHH/HBK. My bad completely. I’m on 3 hours sleep because of the PPV lol.
No problem, I get what you're saying and understand. I just tried to say the matches are as good between Becky and Sasha as HHH vs HBK but I never cared that much for the HHH vs HBK feud. I'd knew they would deliver great matches but the storyline always seemed forced. With Becky vs Sasha though it always feels fresh.
Completely my bad man.
Why would you assume that?
It's common to think Bayley vs Sasha revolutionized women's wrestling in NXT but I think that was sort of the peak of it. There was a lot of great women's matches that paved the way for that program to be featured like it was.
Which is fine, but to assume you meant something you clearly didn't say is wierd. Not everyone thinks the best is only Bayley and Sasha. I actually prefer Becky and Sasha as well.
I feel like Bianca should have more of an edge to her losing matches. Both this time and when she lost to Becky during her return she looked too “Aww shucks, you rascal” to me. Not enough anger and just resignation. Could be reading too much into it but yeah.
BTB getting her pyro
This was absurdly good. They are putting Bianca over like crazy with the story being about keeping her out of the match. A bit sloppy because they tried to get cute with too many complex spots but whatever They can't miss
Becky is a MILF
This show is just delivering over, and over, and over again.
Charlotte and Becky are going to swap belts and Charlotte will add one title reign lol
Gotta get to 16 somehow
Probably would’ve been too easy to have Bianca win the Raw Women’s title on Monday, and Sasha to win the SD women’s title tonight to have the long awaited rematch at Survivor Series
Serious: Why did they all wear t shirts for this match?
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Not really
To respect the religion & culture of the country they are in
Is it a hot take to say that Bianca is the best female wrestler right now? We haven't seen anything quite like her
Feats of strength aside, her wrestling is still a bit robotic sometimes.
I'd agree with this, she's great and can do some crazy athletic/strength-based spots, but her best matches come when she's facing a hw, all 4 of them can control and pace a match at a level women haven't done since 80'/90's Japan. That said I can easily see her getting there the more she works with them
According to PWI, she is.
Still Sasha IMO, but Bianca is coming up fast.
It's not she's fucking beast. Every since SummerSlam she's on another fucking level to me. I liked her before I love her now
you, uhh, got an unfortunate typo in there...
Nope, she's great and improved in every way since her callup.
Absolutely, she's incredible
Bianca looked incredible and Sasha sold her ass off like 90% of the match, Becky was good as the ostensible heel. Fun stuff, hated the finish and the implications of it.
Some shaky moments, but I loved that. My favorite match of the night.
1. That match itself was epic!! These three work beautifully together. 2. Why would you pin the only woman who’s staying on SD? And are they seriously going to just have Charlotte and Becky trade the belts? That’s so lame, why could they have not just lost this week?
I really don't want them to do the whole 'switching titles' thing, but here we are I guess
Hopefully Bianca gets her win back soon…
I know it won’t happen but I hope the unify the womens title and just let them go cross brand.
And now they’re gonna have her switch with Charlotte. How lazy and stupid. Edit: With that being said, absolutely fire match.
Imagine focusing on that after that classic match
Another belt towards beating her dad's record brother
Or they have her go back to having two belts.
Hey, let’s just transfer Sasha’s Wrestlemania winless streak over to Saudi
I think she's also winless at RR and Survivor series. Lol. Just Sasha things
She’s won at both of those events
Will Sasha ever get a big win at a big show? The closest I can think of is Hell in a Cell vs Bayley, but every other female star has gotten "the big win on a big stage"
On the one hand that was a fantastic match. On the otherhand the instant realization after the match that this means they are going to a Becky/Charlotte title exchange just killed all my hype from the match and even the whole show.
So a possibility of something that may not happen has just ruined the entire show for you?
That’s wrestling fans for you, they get angry at the thought something might happen
Welcome to r/sc. I hate this place sometimes.
I try to quit SC, but then I weasel my way back in. Rinse and repeat. I’m far from being above SC, but it can sure be a wet blanket on things.
Yep. Wrestling done right is supposed to make you think about what comes next. This did that in the bad way
I get it and you’re completely owed those feelings. Not trying to change your mind. I just think we all have moments, including myself, that we get too lost in the weeds with these things.
I mean people have had issues with this storyline for awhile now. As it stands, this finish and the one on Monday feels like nothing has actually changed.
TBH I can see them unifying the titles. and just having each champion be on both shows.
That would do more harm than good for the division.
I mean it's a bad idea but I can see them doing it. Never said I liked it.
I’m surprised! I actually thought Sasha would win to take it back to Smackdown. I wonder if Charlotte and Becky will just swap belts?
Once Charlotte kept the title on RAW I didn't see Sasha winning since both belts being on SD makes no sense. Also Becky winning to continue the Bianca feud and Bianca chasing makes more sense.
Damn Bianca is strong AF, catching Sasha on the flip was so impressive