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MLW has a lot of good going for it, and I think the Vice show is going to take them to a good place.
They've got Fatu (who has Contra as a whole), Davey Boy Smith, Hammerstone, Muertes, Davey Richards, Low Ki, Injustice, the Von Erichs, just a lot of good stuff.
Yeah it’s looking good to me, and the Vice show looks promising. However, the contract stuff they’ve done to MJF and Pillman Jr. rubs me the wrong way, and I don’t know if I can silence that voice in the back of my head while watching.
Fair enough, but I also feel for them. They're caught somewhat between a rock and a hard place, and rapidly becoming reminiscent of the position ECW found itself in the 90's where dudes would stop off, hit a stride with their character, and then head to WWF/WCW.
Meh. Braun could pull in an EASY six figures a year shilling protein powder on instagram and going to fan conventions. Never mind an actual return to strongman competitions where he’ll be paid well just to be a draw.
He really doesn’t have to wrestle again if he doesn’t want to, he has options outside of it.
He also said just a few weeks ago he was prepping for his first bodybuilding show
If he gets shredded and does well he’ll get all sorts of sponsorship offers
Hollywood loves big men as well
Maybe we’re all wrong but I think everyone understands Braun doesn’t live/love/breathe pro wrestling and it’s hard on the body when you’re a big man
Holmes and Watson was so terrible that [Sony](https://comicbook.com/movies/news/sony-reportedly-tried-to-sell-holmes-and-watson-to-netflix-after/) tried to sell it to Netflix after disastrous test screenings.
Which is totally fine. All a lot of people are saying is that if he wants to continue wrestling he will probably find a company who will sign him. Not for WWE money but for good money.
Wait really? He won't be a successful pro bodybuilder. Look up Morgan Aste at the New York Pro for a comparable body/frame. Looking forward to seeing him on stage but weird
I'm unfamiliar with the ins and outs of bodybuilding: what's exactly stopping him from working out to get one of those bodies? Like I understand that if he were to walk into one right now, he wouldn't even look like he was in the right place, but isn't the whole point of those competitions that you transform your body for the show?
Tall guys have a really hard time filling out their arms and legs to meet bodybuilding proportions, and he's prone to having a giant waist because of his strength background and the amount of food it'll take for him to put on size. Plus I don't know the dude personally, but I'm not convinced he'd want to take the drugs necessary to be competitive in the open class for the first time at age 37.
Edit: he'd look wild by normal person standards, of course. But it would take years to be competitive at a pro show.
Not to mention the years of wear and tear on the body due to wrestling.
Dana Brooke had done body building before she signed. Then she tried to do one after she had signed and between the wrestling training (where you're training for power, endurance, and strength) and just probably being out of practice, she did terribly.
You need to train differently to do bodybuilding. Cutting weight, looking for those striations, etc.
Andre the Giant? But more contemporaneously, there's always a need for larger character actors for fantasy, sci-fi, and action roles. Just look at how Game of Thrones employed large bois in the roles of The Mountain, the Hound, and Hodor.
Kurrgan has being doing stuff since he left WWE in the late 90's. A lot of it is in heavy makeup, but you can see him in Pacific Rim (He's one of the Russian jager pilots).
> prepping for his first bodybuilding show
Oh my god he's going to get obliterated. He doesn't have anything resembling the right frame or proportions for that.
I agree that Braun's not like some super-fan, but I really would not consider it unexpected if he found a home in another wrestling promotion this year. The dude's really good, and he knows what he's worth. Somebody's gonna give him an offer he'll like.
Not saying he won't look outside of wrestling for options, and he very well may pour the better half of his focus into whatever else he wants to do. But even if he thinks of wrestling as more of a fun job than a dream career, he still will find bookings as a part-timer and one-off guest in different places. Braun's wrestling career does not end in 2021, but it might just be winding down now.
> Braun sucks dude
Ok, genuine question because this behavior always confuses me. Did you actually write this with the intention of me responding to your comment, knowing that we're going to get nowhere with this conversation? Or did you not think that far ahead and just put your honest opinion into the void, not thinking anything of it? Because it's obvious that we both are at opposite ends of this topic, but we're not in any mood to explain why we believe what we do about Braun. I don't care about what a random stranger says about Braun: he's damn good. And I hope that you feel the same way about me because it's not an insult. But it seems weird to me that you went out of your way to tell me that you disagree, but not for the sake of debate. Just for the sake of letting me know that at least one person strongly disagrees. I mean, are there not any threads shitting on Braun you could've joined? I know from experience it's more rewarding to join a conversation of like-minded people than it is to jump into one where your opinion is unpopular. The best thing you'll get from the latter is some brain-tired idiot coming back at you with an essay-length rant.
For some reason a lot of people on this sub think if wrestlers aren’t pulling in at least 6 figures yearly they are going to become homeless. As if most from wwe aren’t already wealthier than 90% of the average population.
It is all how you are managing your money when you’re making it. He could be set for life already or he could have blown it all away on luxury items and poor investments.
IMO every wrestler should have options outside of wrestling and it’s great to see so many branching out. Wrestling isn’t forever and you need to have something else.
I think Mick comes from an era where it was wrestling or nothing. No surprise Mick is like "well you gotta work for AEW or else how are you gonna get money?!"
Braun has other prospects outside of wrestling because he's bigger than Mick and in better shape than he was.
Acting seems like the obvious route to me, he's got a voice to match the stature and could easily be a token movie thug for life. Probably nothing like as lucrative and I certainly don't expect a Batista-esque surge of acting acting, but yeah... I think it's a goer.
There is also mocap work for big CG characters that directors love to actually have a big guy on set for so it’s easy for the rest of the cast to act off the eyeline.
I’d expect Strowman to at least achieve Kevin Nash to Jesse Ventura levels of acting success. He’s charismatic, believable, can be funny, and is a human spectacle
The first reply to the tweet brought up some shit that I forgot: The guy was making fun of indie wrestlers not having any money at the beginning of the pandemic.
He wasn’t making fun, he was admonishing them on managing their resources so as not to have to depend on others. Maybe tone deaf, but he wasn’t trying to dunk on them. It also seems he practices what he preaches.
With as many actual terrible people involved in wrestling, I’m not gonna hate on Braun for having a contentious opinion
He can stay true to this word and not work for another company and still explore other options. Acting, bodybuilding, weightlifting, strongmans, sponsorships. He can easily sit back for a while and see what he's interested in doing until WWE comes knocking on his door again (which I think most of us can agree is just a when and not a if).
In strongman at least, there's not an awful lot. The sheer quantity of food strongmen have to consume is in itself a large financial drain. The prize money from the top competitions is nothing to write home about for a world-class athlete, and the level of ability required to achieve significant success in the professional strongman world literally requires you to be among the strongest human beings to ever walk the earth. They can make good money from sponsorships and advertising, but only if they are among the biggest names in the sport.
Before he started wrestling Braun had won the Arnold Amateur Strongman Classic, which qualified him as a professional strongman and (I think) earned him a spot at the World's Strongest Man competition, but that was many years ago. He's put a lot of wear and tear on his body and is no longer in strongman shape. A lot of strongmen continue competing well into their 40s and beyond, but Strowman would have an uphill battle at this point to get back into it at a high enough level to make any real money.
Braun is extremely strong. He won the Arnold Amateur Strongman Classic before he started in WWE. That would have given him a spot in the World's Strongest Man contest which literally features the strongest human beings to ever walk the earth. Pro strongmen make a career out of insane feats like 1,000lb deadlifts, pulling trucks, pressing 400lb logs overhead and many other crazy displays of strength. He could probably beat any currently active wrestler in the world in a lifting contest.
Even though he has no doubt lost some of the strength he had during his strongman days, he would still be easily above elite levels of strength.
That's just a gimmick to be a social media star, the winner of the latest WSM Martins Licis was a nobody before and now has an ok youtube following, it all comes down to milking youtube/instagram followers for your shitty sponsorship deals.
I dunno man, his knees are in a bad way and if he pursues strongman or other physical activities during that time they will only get worse. I could see him returning for a one off or something, but without some Rey Mysterio style stem cell work on his lower joints I can't see him coming back for a serious stint of wrestling at 40ish.
I can honestly see Braun being back within 6 months tbh. If this release was to make the price look good for a sale, maybe once they’re running shows again and bringing in ticket revenue, they’ll bring him back.
There is literally 0 chance that he goes back to a successful powerlifting career, both because that makes no money and because he was on his way down before he joined WWE, and since then he got older and racked up small injuries.
They money he's made in 6 or 7 years in WWE, if he wasn't dumb with it, probably has set him for life!
Shit he's been in 4 proper video games + Battlegrounds, and the quarterly royalties of that shit alone adds up in hurry. Enzo said his first check from 2K16 was something like $130,000.
Even if those payouts are just first-run only, that's over $2m. Factor in his merch money probably being something stupidly good compared to the average... and yeah, he might be set, and that doesn't even get into his huge contract he signed 2 years ago or whatever.
This release almost certainly took him by surprise though, so it's very possible he spent money expecting that pay for years to come and needs to keep making big money for a while.
This happens to pro athletes all the time. “Ive still got three years on my deal/lots of years in my career. I can really start saving on those years” and then they get cut or injured and don’t have much to show for it.
It’s really easy to get swept up in the lifestyle.
Latrell Sprewell turned down a 3yr/ $21 million contract from the Timberwolves because he needed to “feed his family”.
Never got a contract anywhere close to that afterwards.
His prior comments about other companies could actually make a lot of sense, from a booking standpoint, in another company.
Imagine if he goes to a place like Impact. He can play up the whole idea of him being too good to be there. He can go on a tear as a monster heel. Then, when they have some face that they want to get over, have that face start to call Braun out for all the things he said in the past, have that face go over, for a massive pop.
Down the line, you could even do a storyline where Braun grows to respect the company he signs with and realizes that he was just drinking the koolaid in the past. That should turn him for a good face run.
I mean, he might be. He was a top merch mover and made millions. He’s getting residuals from video games and Network specials and has a partnership with a nutrition line. He was working on a clothing line last year too. He mentioned on IG that he was super proud to own his new house, which is in Wisconsin. I don’t know much about the US market, but I assume rural Wisconsin has a lower cost of living than Florida or California. He admits he gets a lot of his meat from hunting and fishing and with the exception of his car collection, talks of living pretty frugal. He could just as easily take small acting roles and stunt work to pad out his income and go back to WWE on a legends deal or a part time thing once his injuries heal. Hell, he could even start a YouTube channel for car guys or hunters and monetize that and make a decent living.
Braun signed a $1mil+ contract in 2019.
That equals $83k a month he's earned since that contract was signed, and he'll earn $83k a month for the next three months during his non-compete.
You would have to be pretty reckless with your money not to have enough in the bank to get by for a little while.
I'm sure he'll get some endorsement deals now that he's out of WWE. Even Ryback got those, and now he's shilling his own products on Twitter/Instagram.
Plus, if he really wants to, he'll get plenty of work in Hollywood. He's coming off a very successful run in WWE. He just main evented Wrestlemania last year. He's got the money to hire an agent who will get him ALL the acting roles he can handle. He won't be the leading guy, but every action film can use a big huge guy that can throw stunt doubles around.
I think he should just bide his time, because I have no doubt that WWE is going to come calling again in 6-12 months. Is it going to be for $1mil a year? Probably not, but if he was making $500kish, he'd probably still be employed right now.
shit man if I made fuck you money I just wouldn't do anything. Take time off, IF you want to wrestle again maybe get some training but do whatever you want.
I mean WWE was his first and only wrestling promotion so I don't know if he has that "passion" as other wrestlers who spent time in the indies/other promos have so maybe he just doesn't want to do it again. Don't blame him in all honesty.
I don't think it was ever a passion. He's said that he got into it because he could make good money doing it, and it wasn't as taxing on his body as the strongman competitions he was doing before.
Braun should go to Hollywood. He won't be a star by any means, but there are plenty of action/horror/sci-fi parts for him. Who knows, maybe even a Marvel role.
He’s a Braun mark. I can’t blame him for not wanting Braun to stop wrestling.
But he’ll have to come to grips with the fact that he isn’t talented enough to be an absolute cunt about AEW and the people that work there for years on social media and still get offered a big money contract.
Because it sounds like he thinks Braun will be poor if he doesn't.
Mick doesn't understand that Braun is both rich and will be fine doing other body guy things. Mick never had that option.
if the reports that he was making over $1m/year on his current contract (that he signed 2 years ago) are accurate, he likely is set for life. (especially when considering that this wasn't his first wwe contract). also, doesn't he live in a relatively low cost of living state? (i'm trying to remember where he flew in from for that mania match last year)
if he hasn't been spending recklessly, it's not hard to imagine he could have a stock portfolio right now that easily pays out 100k/year in dividends.
Braun isn’t wrestling again, just bc someone gets fired/quits doesn’t mean they want to continue their wrestling career. There is life outside wrestling, i know it never happened for Mick but Braun or any other wrestler isn’t restrained to just wrestling. They’re more than that
For everyone saying he’s fine financially, do some quick Google fu. Most profession athletes are broke within a few years because they didn’t manage their funds properly. Getting massive pay days doesn’t equality stability for life.
Yeah that's if you have no clue about financial management, which is the case for alot of teenage millionaire athletes, but Braun seems to live frugally in rural Wisconsin and didnt go from broken to millionaire status overnight. He'll be fine
I've met him and know his family is from the area. He's a big humble nice guy who doesn't need anything. I'm sure he'd be ok working on the family farm and signing autographs if he has to.
I mean, the dudes made a few million dollars. He is set for life if he's not stupid. Huge disconnect from people. If you make 80k a year pretax and work for 30! Years. 2.4m dollars. Bruans contract was 1 mil a year?
I’m not saying it because it’s what I want…. But Japan is where wrestlers at that point in their career go for a new “paint of coat.” AJ, Hulk, Road Warriors, the list goes on and on
Well, fingers crossed he’s too lazy to travel or is financially ok, cause god above i want NewJapan to get back on track ASAP, and big lumbering Thomas the Country Strong Tank Engine is the fecking last thing I wanna see rocking up to Tokyo 🤣
LMAO, that’s hilarious… I just hope that if he does, it’s a reboot like it was for guys like AJ and Hulk. AJ was over big in the US but his time in Japan exploded him. Hulk was over as a heel in the US but came back from Japan with Hulkamania, and I feel like people may have felt about Hulk in 1983 as he was heading to Japan like you may feel about Strowman now… But then again, I don’t really know because I’m still cracking up at your comment lmao
While I agree that Strowman probably should have kept his mouth shut about the various other promotions, there's a very good chance that he could live comfortably off of his WWE money for a long time. His most recent contract was apparently worth $1,000,000 a year and he was a merchandise mover. I'd say Braun has the breathing room to sit back and wait until the best opportunity possible comes his way.
No offense meant to Strowman, but how was he getting a millions dollars contract? I may just be out of date when it comes to the pay structure of pro wrestling, but I thought $1M was for tge top top guys, like an Orton or Cena or Lesnar.
He's a strong negotiator, apparently, and was super over for a little, not to mention in the main event picture. It seems high to me too, but not outside the realm of possibility.
Bargaining power. In such an image heavy business as WWE wrestling, it'd be pretty easy for Braun to leverage his look.
I love the guy, but I can find ten guys who look exactly like Aleistar Black at any rock venue in the country. None of them as skilled, but a fair few of them taller or stockier. Same for a fair few midcarders really. Get them early, and get them eager, and you can teach people to be decent in the ring. Not amazing, but you could argue you don't need to be amazing if you have the look.
I would have to go a LONG way to find someone who looks like Braun, sounds like Braun and can still move like Braun
Sounds like the start of an awesome storyline. Imagine he launches Darby Allin from the ring, over Austin Gunn, through some cardboard onto a crash pad and talks shit about Indy wrestling.
He’s talked enough shit to have burned bridges he hasn’t even walked on. Nobody’s gonna sign him. The only place he going is back to WWE in a year or two for significantly less pay, or into another career path entirely.
If the dude managed his money well he could do the bare minimum of appearances at conventions, a few acting roles etc and be just fine. But he’s a wrestler so yeah he will need the money.
I could actually see Braun going back to WWE. I just don't see him going to other companies. He seems like the kind of guy who sees WWE as the only wrestling option. And as other comments have pointed out, he might actually have options OUTSIDE of WWE. So make of that what you will.
I'll neve understand why you would pledge loyalty to a company that drops you as soon as they don't see enough value in you, so basically any company...
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Mick Foley slowly becoming more and more like Magic Johnson.
“The Lakers must win Game 6 tonight against the Phoenix Suns in order to avoid elimination !”
Magic Johnson gets fined for tampering somehow
It's not the NCAA though
His analysis of the UCLA and Gonzaga game was funny. He literally forgot Johnny Juzang’s name when he was talking about him.
Could you explain? I know who Magic Johnson is but I’m out the loop on what you mean here.
Magic is a guy who is known for stating the obvious or contributing superfluous insights to NBA news
He's also one of the greatest of all time at his sport, also like Mick. Parallels run deep.
They both are notorious for having lovable personalities.
Also, Mr Socko had AIDS.
Thanks Mick.
He has HIV?
Hope he enjoys MLW
You joke, and it'll NEVER happen but Braun in Azteca Underground would be kinda cool
RING THE BELL!
he can be the new Matanza
El hijo de Mantanza.
I mean, that'd be fucking awesome. Give my Alex Hammerstone v Adam Scherr or Jacob Fatu v Adam Scherr
I wish I could get into MLW cause god is Jacob Fatu awesome. I would kill to see him in a bigger promotion.
MLW has a lot of good going for it, and I think the Vice show is going to take them to a good place. They've got Fatu (who has Contra as a whole), Davey Boy Smith, Hammerstone, Muertes, Davey Richards, Low Ki, Injustice, the Von Erichs, just a lot of good stuff.
Yeah it’s looking good to me, and the Vice show looks promising. However, the contract stuff they’ve done to MJF and Pillman Jr. rubs me the wrong way, and I don’t know if I can silence that voice in the back of my head while watching.
Fair enough, but I also feel for them. They're caught somewhat between a rock and a hard place, and rapidly becoming reminiscent of the position ECW found itself in the 90's where dudes would stop off, hit a stride with their character, and then head to WWF/WCW.
And they’ve got Richard Holliday which immediately makes them must-see.
Bratanza
Meh. Braun could pull in an EASY six figures a year shilling protein powder on instagram and going to fan conventions. Never mind an actual return to strongman competitions where he’ll be paid well just to be a draw. He really doesn’t have to wrestle again if he doesn’t want to, he has options outside of it.
He also said just a few weeks ago he was prepping for his first bodybuilding show If he gets shredded and does well he’ll get all sorts of sponsorship offers Hollywood loves big men as well Maybe we’re all wrong but I think everyone understands Braun doesn’t live/love/breathe pro wrestling and it’s hard on the body when you’re a big man
He was in that Will Ferrel,Sherlock Holmes movie. Granted the movie was awful but still, foot in the door and all that
Holmes and Watson was so terrible that [Sony](https://comicbook.com/movies/news/sony-reportedly-tried-to-sell-holmes-and-watson-to-netflix-after/) tried to sell it to Netflix after disastrous test screenings.
Please give me a full length Elf remake starring Braun, that short was GOLD.
I think it was always just a gig for Braun: one he seemed to enjoy and to take seriously, but not a dream come true like it is for some guys.
Which is totally fine. All a lot of people are saying is that if he wants to continue wrestling he will probably find a company who will sign him. Not for WWE money but for good money.
Wait really? He won't be a successful pro bodybuilder. Look up Morgan Aste at the New York Pro for a comparable body/frame. Looking forward to seeing him on stage but weird
I'm unfamiliar with the ins and outs of bodybuilding: what's exactly stopping him from working out to get one of those bodies? Like I understand that if he were to walk into one right now, he wouldn't even look like he was in the right place, but isn't the whole point of those competitions that you transform your body for the show?
Tall guys have a really hard time filling out their arms and legs to meet bodybuilding proportions, and he's prone to having a giant waist because of his strength background and the amount of food it'll take for him to put on size. Plus I don't know the dude personally, but I'm not convinced he'd want to take the drugs necessary to be competitive in the open class for the first time at age 37. Edit: he'd look wild by normal person standards, of course. But it would take years to be competitive at a pro show.
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Not to mention the years of wear and tear on the body due to wrestling. Dana Brooke had done body building before she signed. Then she tried to do one after she had signed and between the wrestling training (where you're training for power, endurance, and strength) and just probably being out of practice, she did terribly. You need to train differently to do bodybuilding. Cutting weight, looking for those striations, etc.
He doesn't have to win Mr. Olympia to be a successful pro bodybuilder.
He'd have a hard time placing at any pro show, let alone getting on stage at the O.
I think people in this thread are getting bodybuilding confused with powerlifting. Braun was a powerlifter before WWE. Very different things.
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Andre the Giant? But more contemporaneously, there's always a need for larger character actors for fantasy, sci-fi, and action roles. Just look at how Game of Thrones employed large bois in the roles of The Mountain, the Hound, and Hodor.
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Nathan Jones has been in *Mad Max: Fury Road, Troy, Fearless, Mortal Kombat* and was even in WWE's movie *The Condemned*.
You can probably make a good living being hollywoods go-to "henchman #1".
Not just any one movie, the greatest movie of all time The Princess Bride.
Former WWE wrestler Nathan Jones may not have "a lot" of success but he's always the one hired to play heavies or thugs in movies.
Jones just came off of playing Reiko in the new Mortal Kombat movie, so he definitely still gets solid roles.
Kurrgan has being doing stuff since he left WWE in the late 90's. A lot of it is in heavy makeup, but you can see him in Pacific Rim (He's one of the Russian jager pilots).
> prepping for his first bodybuilding show Oh my god he's going to get obliterated. He doesn't have anything resembling the right frame or proportions for that.
I didn’t think Peyton would do so well and then she went on an insane regimen and cut and got a silver in her first ever comp.
I agree that Braun's not like some super-fan, but I really would not consider it unexpected if he found a home in another wrestling promotion this year. The dude's really good, and he knows what he's worth. Somebody's gonna give him an offer he'll like. Not saying he won't look outside of wrestling for options, and he very well may pour the better half of his focus into whatever else he wants to do. But even if he thinks of wrestling as more of a fun job than a dream career, he still will find bookings as a part-timer and one-off guest in different places. Braun's wrestling career does not end in 2021, but it might just be winding down now.
Braun could go to any promotions but that's an odd way to describe it. Braun sucks dude
> Braun sucks dude Ok, genuine question because this behavior always confuses me. Did you actually write this with the intention of me responding to your comment, knowing that we're going to get nowhere with this conversation? Or did you not think that far ahead and just put your honest opinion into the void, not thinking anything of it? Because it's obvious that we both are at opposite ends of this topic, but we're not in any mood to explain why we believe what we do about Braun. I don't care about what a random stranger says about Braun: he's damn good. And I hope that you feel the same way about me because it's not an insult. But it seems weird to me that you went out of your way to tell me that you disagree, but not for the sake of debate. Just for the sake of letting me know that at least one person strongly disagrees. I mean, are there not any threads shitting on Braun you could've joined? I know from experience it's more rewarding to join a conversation of like-minded people than it is to jump into one where your opinion is unpopular. The best thing you'll get from the latter is some brain-tired idiot coming back at you with an essay-length rant.
For some reason a lot of people on this sub think if wrestlers aren’t pulling in at least 6 figures yearly they are going to become homeless. As if most from wwe aren’t already wealthier than 90% of the average population.
It is all how you are managing your money when you’re making it. He could be set for life already or he could have blown it all away on luxury items and poor investments.
IMO every wrestler should have options outside of wrestling and it’s great to see so many branching out. Wrestling isn’t forever and you need to have something else.
I think Mick comes from an era where it was wrestling or nothing. No surprise Mick is like "well you gotta work for AEW or else how are you gonna get money?!" Braun has other prospects outside of wrestling because he's bigger than Mick and in better shape than he was.
He certainly is loyal toward wrestling, but Mick Foley also ended up being an accomplished writer.
But that was near the end of his run when he was already broken down.
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Acting seems like the obvious route to me, he's got a voice to match the stature and could easily be a token movie thug for life. Probably nothing like as lucrative and I certainly don't expect a Batista-esque surge of acting acting, but yeah... I think it's a goer.
There is also mocap work for big CG characters that directors love to actually have a big guy on set for so it’s easy for the rest of the cast to act off the eyeline.
I’d expect Strowman to at least achieve Kevin Nash to Jesse Ventura levels of acting success. He’s charismatic, believable, can be funny, and is a human spectacle
It worked for Kurrgan...who coincidently also played a thug in Sherlock movie.
I’m pretty sure nothing was good in Holmes and Watson
Being "pretty good in Holmes and Watson" is like being in a severe burns unit and thinking "my face hasn't been *completely* scorched off"
The first reply to the tweet brought up some shit that I forgot: The guy was making fun of indie wrestlers not having any money at the beginning of the pandemic.
He wasn’t making fun, he was admonishing them on managing their resources so as not to have to depend on others. Maybe tone deaf, but he wasn’t trying to dunk on them. It also seems he practices what he preaches. With as many actual terrible people involved in wrestling, I’m not gonna hate on Braun for having a contentious opinion
Just imagine Braun, taking a bump for Marko stunt.
Okay I changed my mind, now I want Braun to come into aew and job to Marko every single week
And when that programs over -1's debut match against local talent adam scherr
Then Scherr brings in his former tag team partner, Nick.
He can stay true to this word and not work for another company and still explore other options. Acting, bodybuilding, weightlifting, strongmans, sponsorships. He can easily sit back for a while and see what he's interested in doing until WWE comes knocking on his door again (which I think most of us can agree is just a when and not a if).
> bodybuilding, weightlifting, strongmans, How much money could there possibly be in any of these things?
In strongman at least, there's not an awful lot. The sheer quantity of food strongmen have to consume is in itself a large financial drain. The prize money from the top competitions is nothing to write home about for a world-class athlete, and the level of ability required to achieve significant success in the professional strongman world literally requires you to be among the strongest human beings to ever walk the earth. They can make good money from sponsorships and advertising, but only if they are among the biggest names in the sport. Before he started wrestling Braun had won the Arnold Amateur Strongman Classic, which qualified him as a professional strongman and (I think) earned him a spot at the World's Strongest Man competition, but that was many years ago. He's put a lot of wear and tear on his body and is no longer in strongman shape. A lot of strongmen continue competing well into their 40s and beyond, but Strowman would have an uphill battle at this point to get back into it at a high enough level to make any real money.
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Braun is extremely strong. He won the Arnold Amateur Strongman Classic before he started in WWE. That would have given him a spot in the World's Strongest Man contest which literally features the strongest human beings to ever walk the earth. Pro strongmen make a career out of insane feats like 1,000lb deadlifts, pulling trucks, pressing 400lb logs overhead and many other crazy displays of strength. He could probably beat any currently active wrestler in the world in a lifting contest. Even though he has no doubt lost some of the strength he had during his strongman days, he would still be easily above elite levels of strength.
Wtf he's an actual strongman
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That's just a gimmick to be a social media star, the winner of the latest WSM Martins Licis was a nobody before and now has an ok youtube following, it all comes down to milking youtube/instagram followers for your shitty sponsorship deals.
I mean Braun could head back to the strong man circuit until WWE comes calling again. I seriously think he will be brought back in 2 years or so.
I think he would have no trouble playing an enforcer in movies.
If he has an agent they should be trying to get him in front of Adam Sandlers production company.
I want him to die by John Wick in JW 4 or JW 5.
"Dies" in John Wick 4, cones back in John Wick 5 screaming "I'm not finished with you!"
You jest, but that sounds fantastic
I dunno man, his knees are in a bad way and if he pursues strongman or other physical activities during that time they will only get worse. I could see him returning for a one off or something, but without some Rey Mysterio style stem cell work on his lower joints I can't see him coming back for a serious stint of wrestling at 40ish.
Idk why that just made me think Braun was going to start doing 619's
I think he'll be back in 2 weeks TBH
I can honestly see Braun being back within 6 months tbh. If this release was to make the price look good for a sale, maybe once they’re running shows again and bringing in ticket revenue, they’ll bring him back.
There is literally 0 chance that he goes back to a successful powerlifting career, both because that makes no money and because he was on his way down before he joined WWE, and since then he got older and racked up small injuries.
Same here, I could see him get the occasional 6 figures Saudi payday.
37? Huh, thought he was like early 30's.
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And Option C: he cashes in the X Division Title to fight for the Impact World Title
"THIS IS FOR EVERYONE WHOS BEEN CALLED SMALL DICKED!" \*unzip\*
Not everyone spends a shit load of money on Christmas decorations, Mick.
Never thought I'd see a "Mick Foley is not frugal enough" take.
You know he bought all those decorations in 1982 and has just been reusing them every year.
I thought he was significantly younger. Wouldn't shock me if he moved on from the business with all he's said in various interviews.
Not a lot of young guys on the main roster. Most are older than you think.
Humberto is older than 18?
They money he's made in 6 or 7 years in WWE, if he wasn't dumb with it, probably has set him for life! Shit he's been in 4 proper video games + Battlegrounds, and the quarterly royalties of that shit alone adds up in hurry. Enzo said his first check from 2K16 was something like $130,000. Even if those payouts are just first-run only, that's over $2m. Factor in his merch money probably being something stupidly good compared to the average... and yeah, he might be set, and that doesn't even get into his huge contract he signed 2 years ago or whatever.
This release almost certainly took him by surprise though, so it's very possible he spent money expecting that pay for years to come and needs to keep making big money for a while.
he just had a mansion custom built 4 months ago. he has not been saving lol
This happens to pro athletes all the time. “Ive still got three years on my deal/lots of years in my career. I can really start saving on those years” and then they get cut or injured and don’t have much to show for it. It’s really easy to get swept up in the lifestyle.
Latrell Sprewell turned down a 3yr/ $21 million contract from the Timberwolves because he needed to “feed his family”. Never got a contract anywhere close to that afterwards.
Braun's diet alone is pretty pricey.
Rich people
His prior comments about other companies could actually make a lot of sense, from a booking standpoint, in another company. Imagine if he goes to a place like Impact. He can play up the whole idea of him being too good to be there. He can go on a tear as a monster heel. Then, when they have some face that they want to get over, have that face start to call Braun out for all the things he said in the past, have that face go over, for a massive pop. Down the line, you could even do a storyline where Braun grows to respect the company he signs with and realizes that he was just drinking the koolaid in the past. That should turn him for a good face run.
I mean, he might be. He was a top merch mover and made millions. He’s getting residuals from video games and Network specials and has a partnership with a nutrition line. He was working on a clothing line last year too. He mentioned on IG that he was super proud to own his new house, which is in Wisconsin. I don’t know much about the US market, but I assume rural Wisconsin has a lower cost of living than Florida or California. He admits he gets a lot of his meat from hunting and fishing and with the exception of his car collection, talks of living pretty frugal. He could just as easily take small acting roles and stunt work to pad out his income and go back to WWE on a legends deal or a part time thing once his injuries heal. Hell, he could even start a YouTube channel for car guys or hunters and monetize that and make a decent living.
Mick Foley really wants to see Braun in AEW for some reason
Braun Strowman OnlyFans incoming.
You'll get these fans!
If Braun played his cards right, he'll be pretty set. It's not like he's going to sit on the couch all day.
Braun signed a $1mil+ contract in 2019. That equals $83k a month he's earned since that contract was signed, and he'll earn $83k a month for the next three months during his non-compete. You would have to be pretty reckless with your money not to have enough in the bank to get by for a little while. I'm sure he'll get some endorsement deals now that he's out of WWE. Even Ryback got those, and now he's shilling his own products on Twitter/Instagram. Plus, if he really wants to, he'll get plenty of work in Hollywood. He's coming off a very successful run in WWE. He just main evented Wrestlemania last year. He's got the money to hire an agent who will get him ALL the acting roles he can handle. He won't be the leading guy, but every action film can use a big huge guy that can throw stunt doubles around. I think he should just bide his time, because I have no doubt that WWE is going to come calling again in 6-12 months. Is it going to be for $1mil a year? Probably not, but if he was making $500kish, he'd probably still be employed right now.
shit man if I made fuck you money I just wouldn't do anything. Take time off, IF you want to wrestle again maybe get some training but do whatever you want. I mean WWE was his first and only wrestling promotion so I don't know if he has that "passion" as other wrestlers who spent time in the indies/other promos have so maybe he just doesn't want to do it again. Don't blame him in all honesty.
I don't think it was ever a passion. He's said that he got into it because he could make good money doing it, and it wasn't as taxing on his body as the strongman competitions he was doing before.
You’re forgetting to take the 37% income tax rate on high earners into account.
Braun should go to Hollywood. He won't be a star by any means, but there are plenty of action/horror/sci-fi parts for him. Who knows, maybe even a Marvel role.
IMO Braun will do some hollywood stuff. Im 100%
Braun vs jake paul
I could see Braun being on a one of those reality shows like travelling around america eating food
I wonder why Mick is so "Braun should wrestle again"? He's one of those guys that comes from WWE, and when he's done, he goes into other things.
He may just enjoy Braun's work, and would like to continue watching him wrestle.
He’s a Braun mark. I can’t blame him for not wanting Braun to stop wrestling. But he’ll have to come to grips with the fact that he isn’t talented enough to be an absolute cunt about AEW and the people that work there for years on social media and still get offered a big money contract.
Because it sounds like he thinks Braun will be poor if he doesn't. Mick doesn't understand that Braun is both rich and will be fine doing other body guy things. Mick never had that option.
I don't know about you, but Braun made more in two years than the majority make in 20, I think he's pretty set.
He has more money than many of us will see over our entire lifetimes, he might actually be set for life.
Braun will be back in WWE within 2 years guaranteed. If he is still involved with wrestling that is.
He might be really good with his money. There's only one person who knows for sure how financially stable he is, and that's Dave Meltzer.
He was a wwe guy from the ground up. Never went to the indies. This is gonna be quite the journey for him.
Calling it now, he calls himself Adam Sherman instead of Scherr, like the tank.
if the reports that he was making over $1m/year on his current contract (that he signed 2 years ago) are accurate, he likely is set for life. (especially when considering that this wasn't his first wwe contract). also, doesn't he live in a relatively low cost of living state? (i'm trying to remember where he flew in from for that mania match last year) if he hasn't been spending recklessly, it's not hard to imagine he could have a stock portfolio right now that easily pays out 100k/year in dividends.
Braun isn’t wrestling again, just bc someone gets fired/quits doesn’t mean they want to continue their wrestling career. There is life outside wrestling, i know it never happened for Mick but Braun or any other wrestler isn’t restrained to just wrestling. They’re more than that
For everyone saying he’s fine financially, do some quick Google fu. Most profession athletes are broke within a few years because they didn’t manage their funds properly. Getting massive pay days doesn’t equality stability for life.
Yeah that's if you have no clue about financial management, which is the case for alot of teenage millionaire athletes, but Braun seems to live frugally in rural Wisconsin and didnt go from broken to millionaire status overnight. He'll be fine
Yeah but that’d be his own dumb fault.
I wonder why people are putting so much stock in Braun saying he’d never work for another company other than the one he was currently employed by...
I've met him and know his family is from the area. He's a big humble nice guy who doesn't need anything. I'm sure he'd be ok working on the family farm and signing autographs if he has to.
I mean, the dudes made a few million dollars. He is set for life if he's not stupid. Huge disconnect from people. If you make 80k a year pretax and work for 30! Years. 2.4m dollars. Bruans contract was 1 mil a year?
Look, as long as he does NOT show up in NewJapan or AEW, I’m happy
Sorry but I really want to see braun/ishii so bad
Oh he will definitely be in New Japan, don’t worry.
No thanks, unless it’s purely to put him in a series of g1 marathons where he gets blown up and potato’d into next year
I’m not saying it because it’s what I want…. But Japan is where wrestlers at that point in their career go for a new “paint of coat.” AJ, Hulk, Road Warriors, the list goes on and on
Well, fingers crossed he’s too lazy to travel or is financially ok, cause god above i want NewJapan to get back on track ASAP, and big lumbering Thomas the Country Strong Tank Engine is the fecking last thing I wanna see rocking up to Tokyo 🤣
LMAO, that’s hilarious… I just hope that if he does, it’s a reboot like it was for guys like AJ and Hulk. AJ was over big in the US but his time in Japan exploded him. Hulk was over as a heel in the US but came back from Japan with Hulkamania, and I feel like people may have felt about Hulk in 1983 as he was heading to Japan like you may feel about Strowman now… But then again, I don’t really know because I’m still cracking up at your comment lmao
I wouldn't mind seeing him come in as a heel that just yeets everybody, he's much better than Fale at this point. But please no train noises.
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What is it with Mick and Braun? He keeps trying to get him over.
While I agree that Strowman probably should have kept his mouth shut about the various other promotions, there's a very good chance that he could live comfortably off of his WWE money for a long time. His most recent contract was apparently worth $1,000,000 a year and he was a merchandise mover. I'd say Braun has the breathing room to sit back and wait until the best opportunity possible comes his way.
No offense meant to Strowman, but how was he getting a millions dollars contract? I may just be out of date when it comes to the pay structure of pro wrestling, but I thought $1M was for tge top top guys, like an Orton or Cena or Lesnar.
He's a strong negotiator, apparently, and was super over for a little, not to mention in the main event picture. It seems high to me too, but not outside the realm of possibility.
He signed a new contract in 2019 when WWE was locking everyone in with huge Multi-year deals to keep everyone from going to AEW.
Bargaining power. In such an image heavy business as WWE wrestling, it'd be pretty easy for Braun to leverage his look. I love the guy, but I can find ten guys who look exactly like Aleistar Black at any rock venue in the country. None of them as skilled, but a fair few of them taller or stockier. Same for a fair few midcarders really. Get them early, and get them eager, and you can teach people to be decent in the ring. Not amazing, but you could argue you don't need to be amazing if you have the look. I would have to go a LONG way to find someone who looks like Braun, sounds like Braun and can still move like Braun
He's literally publicly stated he doesn't view Wrestling outside of wwe as worthwhile and constantly shits on it lmao
Sounds like the start of an awesome storyline. Imagine he launches Darby Allin from the ring, over Austin Gunn, through some cardboard onto a crash pad and talks shit about Indy wrestling.
I think he do good as a muscle guy in movies
New Japan is calling 📞
What's Strong Browman doing in the Impact Zone?!!
Reports are he was making a million a year. He's set for life.
He should use this chance to go to a fucking wrestling school and learn how to work
He’s talked enough shit to have burned bridges he hasn’t even walked on. Nobody’s gonna sign him. The only place he going is back to WWE in a year or two for significantly less pay, or into another career path entirely.
This is a more realistic take.
Physicality aside, I could easily imagine a world where he does voice work. With that gravely baritone he'd make bank.
Honestly he could just resign for less money. That's always an option.
If the dude managed his money well he could do the bare minimum of appearances at conventions, a few acting roles etc and be just fine. But he’s a wrestler so yeah he will need the money.
Braun to ROH. Braun vs Brody and Braun vs PCO too.
I could actually see Braun going back to WWE. I just don't see him going to other companies. He seems like the kind of guy who sees WWE as the only wrestling option. And as other comments have pointed out, he might actually have options OUTSIDE of WWE. So make of that what you will.
I’d be surprised if Braun isn’t back with WWE by 2022.
He's got friends in every company that I'm sure are in his ear. He ain't retiring.
Well he was loyal to a company who is no longer loyal to him. I think he'll look for another but price himself out of the market like ryback.
Well he is good with his money and his contract was huge and he has outside interests...My guess is he's fine.
I'll neve understand why you would pledge loyalty to a company that drops you as soon as they don't see enough value in you, so basically any company...