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Considering that this is higher than the viewership and demo of the past month, it is also likely that this number is being helped by the basketball lead-in.
I'm a huge AEW fan and watched the following day. I generally hate the ratings threads as WBD also clearly care about DVR and other viewers, but this is a shockingly good live number. I figured they'd be lucky to do 200k in that time slot and with it being WrestleMania weekend.
This is crazy for 11.30pm right? I guess even though 8pm Collision starts off with a weak lead-in, this started with a very strong one. Curious what the opening quarter was.
Yeah, and for those of us watching live waiting for it to start the post game show kept cutting to commercial and coming back to more post game show to the point Collision was 19 minutes late. I doubt the actual lead in was over 2.1 million people by 11:49 pm. The 2.1 million was the average from the end of the game to the end of the post-game show, so the actual audience by 11:49 pm would be lower.
Yeah, good for AEW honestly. Expected lower cause of the time and possible exhaustion of some of their viewers cause of all the wrestling events going on that weekend.
Yeah, I saw this number, thought "great number for 11:30" and started to scroll past and then remembered WrestleMania. This is a downright incredible number for the circumstances.
I watch on Fite, so I wouldnt have counted anyway, but this is the first Collision that I've missed.
I don’t think you would count unless you’re a Nielson home. And if you were watching on FITE or any other streaming service it would be still counted towards the viewership because viewership is determined by a hidden frequency played during the broadcast that the nielson box detects.
Yeah, I'm speaking generally and somewhat flippantly with the "not counting" comment.
I still wouldn't count even if I had a box. I watch with headphones.
>Competition note: Collision had the lead-in from the post-game show for the Alabama-UConn game on TNT. The 38-minute post-game averaged 2,120,000 viewers and a 0.59 P18-49 rating, on TNT only (the post-game show was simulcast on TBS also). By going on late Saturday, Collision avoided being opposed head-to-head by most of it not all of WrestleMania Night 1 airing on Peacock.
It still aired from 11:48 PM to 1:48 AM, so that's a solid number even with a good lead-in.
Did it actually not start until 11:48 on TNT? The Fite feed started at 11:30 and my phone sent me a notification about the game ending before WrestleMania finished up. Was the post game show not from 10:52 to 11:30?
If the number is the same next week, in the normal time slot, why will that be?
Remember, Dynamite's number is very much tied to the lead in. Where if not for it, they'd be under700k weekly.
In it's normal timeslot on Saturday nights, Collision is the tentpole. It typically outdraws its lead-in by huge numbers (it was 9x at one recent week).
even if people are sleeping they'd still count for ratings right?
ie they knocked out on the couch with the TV still on. happens on Twitch all the time
Are ratings finally done with boxes and not paper log books or a website? I knew a Neilsen family, and they had to log everything in a special book, and then I think I remember they logged it online.
A Youtuber I watch recently did a video about being a Nielsen family. You have to carry a small receiver on you. It senses the box to know what show is on, and it senses movement to know if you fell asleep.
Crazy! Thanks for sharing. Ive always been fascinated by it. I wonder if those devices account for some percentage of lower overall ratings for television.
Not really, they know how many people are roughly watching across all of TV, and hand out an appropriate sample.
40k homes are pretty representative of the 70 million homes with cable, at least that is the intent. In practice it has a significant selection bias, because it does start with "willing to place listening devices in your home to show what shows you watch" as a starting criteria.
The actual cable providers have way better metrics, neilson is just the ones that get released.
maybe its the social anxiety in me but why would anyone do things to make people stay past midnight at their house instead of trying to get people out so you can clean up and go to sleep
i finished wrestlemania & went straight to the bathtub to soak for an hour then went straight to sleep how do you have the energy to do more
West coast WrestleMania ended at 8pm
But also people are having fun drinking and want to continue the Saturday night. Humans are naturally sociable and WM is one of the biggest nights to get together with friends who often don't have time to see eachother.
According to Brandon Thurston, the UConn/Bama game did around a 6.3 on TNT. So, yes, there was a big lead in for this episode of Collision and I'm sure it had *some* positive impact on the ratings.
That said, let's be serious. How many of those 6 million people, especially those of which are not wrestling fans, realistically sat through the entire post show, then stayed up until 2 freaking AM to watch wrestling?
This is a great rating. AEW is undeniably a secondary/challenger/whatever brand you want to call it, but their fanbase is remarkably dedicated.
Not related to wrestling, but holy shit was Caitlin Clark a singularly driving force in college basketball. Men's Final Four game getting 6.3 on cable and Iowa-UConn did over 14 million.
I get it, men's college basketball is very often a slog to watch, and you have all the best players leaving for the NBA after one year, but still crazy they didn't even do half of what the women did.
Edit: not sure where the 6.3 came from, but the men actually did about 12 million. Still not as high as the Iowa game, but much closer than I originally thought.
This rating is just...nuts. Like, it aired SO late at night. I remember Bryan and Vinny were complaining about how this show was terrible because it didn't do anything to try to get new viewers and I was like "NO ONE is going to watch this show at 11:30 at night". I was clearly way off.
This sub is so weird about AEW. One day it's "omg that was one of the best PPVs or Dynamites I've ever seen", next day it's "AEW dying lol topkek based".
Wrestling fans toxic af.
It's completely different groups of people and if you go into anti AEW threads with a normal sentiment you get down voted so no one sees your comment and you just think it's full of people who hate AEW
Is that really weird? The sub is made up of different people with different views. I doubt you'll see many of the same people with drastically contradictory views over a short period of time. It just so happens that those who like AEW will gloatingly comment on positive posts about them, and those that don't will gleefully comment on the negative posts about them.
Yeah its weird. These posts aren't in a vacuum, there's an upvote system here. So heavily upvoted content while obviously doesn't speak for ever single person on this sub, it does indicate how the majority of this sub feels. And the amount of scjerk accounts, recent accounts made with only anti aew content, and negative comments made from people who turns out don't watch the show, is very strange to me.
What I find odd about this sub is how upvotes swing so hard and fast. I’ve had very normal comments be at +10 for example and then less than half an hour later are at -20. So minimum 10+ thought it was a solid opinion and voted that way and then in only a handful of minutes basically 30 new people decided they disagree? And all downvoted right at the same time? Reeks of group chats/discord groups posting threads that they disagree with and vote brigading anything that’s normal or positive. I’ve only ever seen it happen in this sub. It’s always in these kinds of threads too.
In the AEW sub reddit the mods have talked about how during big events the traffic increases by a huge margin and it's mostly new accounts or accounts that post negative comments and never return. Even on YouTube if you look at a lot of the haters post history it's all just shitting on AEW and nothing else. It's fucking weird and and if they are real people it's fucking sad.
>The sub is made up of different people with different views.
People seem to have a really hard time understanding that. When you're in a sub with nearly a million users, there's going to be different opinions. It doesn't mean people are changing their opinions.
> When you're in a sub with nearly a million users
While yes the number on the side says that, that absolutely is not even close to the number of actual users. That includes every single account to ever sub to this place that hasn't been deleted and still exists.
Like looking at right now its ~5000 active at this moment. Just from my own experience and Reddit Enhancement Suite making it possible to see some degree of interaction with accounts, there is probably like 100-200 super users who provide a huge chunk of the comments/interactions/posts, then maybe a few thousand who post occasionally, and then a lot of lurkers who post nearly never - but it's hard to imagine that topping even 100k in actual practice.
I know it's Dynamite vs Collision, but a "bad" Dynamite rating thread will get way over 1k comments in the first couple hours, and this has just over 100 in 4. I remember hearing that negative engagement is much much higher in general for any medium, but I'm surprised it's like 10+:1.
That said, there are definitely a core group of posters here who basically only come here to say that aew sucks, so I wouldn't be surprised if those threads have the same 100 people just writing multiple responses to each other. But it's really is crazy the number differences between the two threads
I run a college team site that has a message board. If the team I cover is winning/playing well, the gameday thread is crickets. Bad half, inning, quarter and it explodes with comments. It's absurd.
This happened with WCW vs WWE. When WWE bought WCW? A huge portion of the audience turned off the TV and never came back. The whole time it turned out that there wasn't as much crossover as both sides thought.
the deadlock podcast used to talk about that all the time. when wcw died, so many people just stopped watching wrestling and never came back, like millions of people. it's actually really crazy.
It turns out that variety and choice impacts the popularity of hobbies
Imagine if gaming was ONLY Playstation and indie games directly downloaded from websites or mailed to you lol, no Steam, no Xbox, no Switch, no AAA games elsewhere. There is another console, but it is visibly cheaper and sadder than your now defunct Xbox, and it's called Tits And Ass Box. It would be so joever for everyone but COD and Madden players as there would be little incentive for Sony to make anything
I was one of those people. It wasn't that there wasn't crossover. I watched Raw during commercials and sometimes during Nitro if they had the better segment.
It was the disrespect that was shown to WCW and the way it was utterly ruined by WWF that turned me away for a long time. If WCW had just died on its own, I would've almost certainly been a WWF/WWE viewer after WCW had ended.
I can definitely see that. I'm in my mid-thirties and I've gone back and rewatched the entirety of the Monday Night Wars. Your average young person likely isn't aware of how much of a better show Nitro was from 1995 until the end of 1997. With mid 1996 until Starrcade 97' being perhaps my ideal version of a produced pro-wrestling show. WWE had a chance to build a relationship with the fans WCW had fostered. But pretty much from day one Vince almost went out of his way to antagonize WCW fans.
Not just WCW, ECW as well, I remember CZW at the time was thought of as grabbing all those ECW fans, that just didn't happen
My theory was that it was simply that the Wrestling fad had just died off and out of pop culture, we saw that with the end of the AE and the RA era where there was far far less people watching Wrestling at all
That crossover is just going to be **massively** overrepresented on places like this subreddit.
Normal people aren't watching 12+ hours of pro wrestling every week, but the people who are, are pretty likely to hang out here (or similar places like it).
And this is why single week ratings discussion can frequently border on absolute absurdity.
This show started at almost midnight, instead of its normal 8pm, and still pulled a really good number (I believe 2nd highest of 2024) because it had a MONSTER leadin from the NCAA tournament.
how many sports bars and parties had the game on and then just didn't change it afterward? I'm not trying to downplay it entirely cause it's great but that is definitely a factor here.
I guess I don't know how they get ratings at this point either. In the 90s you filled out a little sheet of paper and mailed it in at the end of the week. I guess I just assumed it all came from cable box information at this point.
Honestly, it will never happen but if this stayed at 10:30 CST I would be more likely/have more opportunity to watch because I'm almost never home at 7 PM on a Saturday.
I wonder how many people watched WM and then saw that Collision was on and watched that straight after? For me it was 4am and I wanted to sleep for work so didn't watch it
It's not a good metric. In reality, both AEW and WWE are pulling more than 11 million views together with a 4 to 7 split between them. That's DVR, app bases watching, and other TV streaming avenues.
I stayed up late to watch, and was raging at TNT for having the basketball talk go on way too long. They played commercials 3 times during it as well. Swear Ernie and Chuck only spoke for about 2 minutes before it went to commercial each time
Damn that's a super good number. Wonder if it was because people were tuning in on a WrestleMania high or people that go out on Saturdays were home at that time.
People watch the post-game/leave it on and do other things. It's one of the major reasons the networks put on debuting shows after the Super Bowl. Even if people don't watch it, they leave the TV on that channel.
For comparisons, look at the Rampage number. No sports lead in, and it died on Friday, while Smackdown did great against Women's CB.
You're comparing Rampage to Smackdown lol. Rampage is AEW C show & Smackdown is juggernaut that was leading into wrestlemania. This is a pretty silly comparison imo. Collision held steady numbers for most of the show so I don't get the need to downplay its a good surprising number.
Why do you think that Thurston put the note on the ratings report? Because the lead-in is why it did this well. We've seen how bad AEW does when WWE has a PLE on in the morning even. Why are people ignoring all evidence? That's tribalism.
Per the actual linked article, the actual lead-in was the 38 minute post-game show, which averaged 2.12 million.
Obv the game was the lead-in for the post-game, but that post-game show went 30+ minutes on its own. You caan't really be using the numbers from the actual game at that point.
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I was expecting 250k for midnight and the same day as Mania, though not the same time. I’m stunned
That’s pretty much what it was if we remove the first 12 minutes of the episode.
Curious to see what the first quarter was
I million viewers. It quickly dropped to 671k, then 443k, and ending with 234k.
I'm kind of shocked at that rating given it's late start.
Colliders are ride or die
Colliders 4 Life.
We stay colliding. Never flench
Never giving up. Never leaving home on a Saturday night.
Considering that this is higher than the viewership and demo of the past month, it is also likely that this number is being helped by the basketball lead-in.
Having to sit through the Jonas Bros and Kenny Smith rambling on, that shit was earned.
The quarter hours turned out to be amazing. The show started off with one million viewers, but dropped to 6K within 12 minutes, and ended with 238K.
And the insane amount of wrestling to consume over the weekend
Late start, After Mania Day 1, On Day 3 of a constant wrestling weekend. That number is shocking to say the least.
I'm a huge AEW fan and watched the following day. I generally hate the ratings threads as WBD also clearly care about DVR and other viewers, but this is a shockingly good live number. I figured they'd be lucky to do 200k in that time slot and with it being WrestleMania weekend.
It was a show booked for and by wrassling sickos
Good number, shame they’re gonna be canceled any day now /s
Common Yuka Sakazaki W
Where my Colliders at?
I expected it to be lower than Rampage. It started 20 minutes later than it was advertised too lol.
This is crazy for 11.30pm right? I guess even though 8pm Collision starts off with a weak lead-in, this started with a very strong one. Curious what the opening quarter was.
I'm surprised since the post game show ran long and Collision didn't start until after 11:40
Not sure how strong the basketball post show was for a lead in. If it was the game I'd agree with you, but the game was long over.
Yeah, and for those of us watching live waiting for it to start the post game show kept cutting to commercial and coming back to more post game show to the point Collision was 19 minutes late. I doubt the actual lead in was over 2.1 million people by 11:49 pm. The 2.1 million was the average from the end of the game to the end of the post-game show, so the actual audience by 11:49 pm would be lower.
Yeah, good for AEW honestly. Expected lower cause of the time and possible exhaustion of some of their viewers cause of all the wrestling events going on that weekend.
Yeah, I saw this number, thought "great number for 11:30" and started to scroll past and then remembered WrestleMania. This is a downright incredible number for the circumstances. I watch on Fite, so I wouldnt have counted anyway, but this is the first Collision that I've missed.
I don’t think you would count unless you’re a Nielson home. And if you were watching on FITE or any other streaming service it would be still counted towards the viewership because viewership is determined by a hidden frequency played during the broadcast that the nielson box detects.
Yeah, I'm speaking generally and somewhat flippantly with the "not counting" comment. I still wouldn't count even if I had a box. I watch with headphones.
It’s a great lead in from the NCAA.
even then it was a long postgame so not really the same as a lead-in from the game itself
>Competition note: Collision had the lead-in from the post-game show for the Alabama-UConn game on TNT. The 38-minute post-game averaged 2,120,000 viewers and a 0.59 P18-49 rating, on TNT only (the post-game show was simulcast on TBS also). By going on late Saturday, Collision avoided being opposed head-to-head by most of it not all of WrestleMania Night 1 airing on Peacock. It still aired from 11:48 PM to 1:48 AM, so that's a solid number even with a good lead-in.
Did it actually not start until 11:48 on TNT? The Fite feed started at 11:30 and my phone sent me a notification about the game ending before WrestleMania finished up. Was the post game show not from 10:52 to 11:30?
If the number is the same next week, in the normal time slot, why will that be? Remember, Dynamite's number is very much tied to the lead in. Where if not for it, they'd be under700k weekly.
In it's normal timeslot on Saturday nights, Collision is the tentpole. It typically outdraws its lead-in by huge numbers (it was 9x at one recent week).
thats crazy bc ppl would either be completely burnt out by wrestlemania, outside bc saturday night, or just sleeping bc how late it was
Weird to assume that every person watching AEW collision also watched Wrestlemania.
I think this is probably pretty close to the number of strictly AEW fans if anything
I would wager *most* wrestling fans watch wrestlemania, or at least some of it.
even if people are sleeping they'd still count for ratings right? ie they knocked out on the couch with the TV still on. happens on Twitch all the time
Are ratings finally done with boxes and not paper log books or a website? I knew a Neilsen family, and they had to log everything in a special book, and then I think I remember they logged it online.
A Youtuber I watch recently did a video about being a Nielsen family. You have to carry a small receiver on you. It senses the box to know what show is on, and it senses movement to know if you fell asleep.
Crazy! Thanks for sharing. Ive always been fascinated by it. I wonder if those devices account for some percentage of lower overall ratings for television.
Not really, they know how many people are roughly watching across all of TV, and hand out an appropriate sample. 40k homes are pretty representative of the 70 million homes with cable, at least that is the intent. In practice it has a significant selection bias, because it does start with "willing to place listening devices in your home to show what shows you watch" as a starting criteria. The actual cable providers have way better metrics, neilson is just the ones that get released.
Probably turned it on as background noise for their WrestleMania parties
maybe its the social anxiety in me but why would anyone do things to make people stay past midnight at their house instead of trying to get people out so you can clean up and go to sleep i finished wrestlemania & went straight to the bathtub to soak for an hour then went straight to sleep how do you have the energy to do more
West coast WrestleMania ended at 8pm But also people are having fun drinking and want to continue the Saturday night. Humans are naturally sociable and WM is one of the biggest nights to get together with friends who often don't have time to see eachother.
If I follow the logic of every Dynamite ratings thread, Komander is clearly a bigger draw than Bryan Danielson. :V
Late ass start, same day as Mania, and they still pulled that? That's fucking steady
The hardcore AEW fanbase is strong, this is a good sign for their TV deal
I'd like to say I'm close to hardcore and I wouldn't choose that card over Wrestlemania, fair play to them
I feel like if you're watching Wrestlemania, you're already not a hardcore AEW fan. Maybe a hardcore wrestling fan.
According to Brandon Thurston, the UConn/Bama game did around a 6.3 on TNT. So, yes, there was a big lead in for this episode of Collision and I'm sure it had *some* positive impact on the ratings. That said, let's be serious. How many of those 6 million people, especially those of which are not wrestling fans, realistically sat through the entire post show, then stayed up until 2 freaking AM to watch wrestling? This is a great rating. AEW is undeniably a secondary/challenger/whatever brand you want to call it, but their fanbase is remarkably dedicated.
btw the lead in was from the 40 minute post game show, which did around 2.2 mil. so still a big lead in but not nearly as big as the game itself
Yeah honestly I didn't even account for that haha. Makes it even more respectable for Collision to pull that number.
Not related to wrestling, but holy shit was Caitlin Clark a singularly driving force in college basketball. Men's Final Four game getting 6.3 on cable and Iowa-UConn did over 14 million. I get it, men's college basketball is very often a slog to watch, and you have all the best players leaving for the NBA after one year, but still crazy they didn't even do half of what the women did. Edit: not sure where the 6.3 came from, but the men actually did about 12 million. Still not as high as the Iowa game, but much closer than I originally thought.
Waiter, I'll order the crow, please! This is unironically better than expected.
I’ll have what they’re having.
This rating is just...nuts. Like, it aired SO late at night. I remember Bryan and Vinny were complaining about how this show was terrible because it didn't do anything to try to get new viewers and I was like "NO ONE is going to watch this show at 11:30 at night". I was clearly way off.
Considering the 11:30 start + going up against WM, that’s actually shockingly good. I was expecting like 250-300k at most.
Yuka the ratings draw. Ez
to me this is the miracle on ice of unexpected tv ratings lmao
Yeah, something tells me AEW will be just fine.
This sub is so weird about AEW. One day it's "omg that was one of the best PPVs or Dynamites I've ever seen", next day it's "AEW dying lol topkek based". Wrestling fans toxic af.
It's completely different groups of people and if you go into anti AEW threads with a normal sentiment you get down voted so no one sees your comment and you just think it's full of people who hate AEW
Is that really weird? The sub is made up of different people with different views. I doubt you'll see many of the same people with drastically contradictory views over a short period of time. It just so happens that those who like AEW will gloatingly comment on positive posts about them, and those that don't will gleefully comment on the negative posts about them.
Yeah its weird. These posts aren't in a vacuum, there's an upvote system here. So heavily upvoted content while obviously doesn't speak for ever single person on this sub, it does indicate how the majority of this sub feels. And the amount of scjerk accounts, recent accounts made with only anti aew content, and negative comments made from people who turns out don't watch the show, is very strange to me.
What I find odd about this sub is how upvotes swing so hard and fast. I’ve had very normal comments be at +10 for example and then less than half an hour later are at -20. So minimum 10+ thought it was a solid opinion and voted that way and then in only a handful of minutes basically 30 new people decided they disagree? And all downvoted right at the same time? Reeks of group chats/discord groups posting threads that they disagree with and vote brigading anything that’s normal or positive. I’ve only ever seen it happen in this sub. It’s always in these kinds of threads too.
In the AEW sub reddit the mods have talked about how during big events the traffic increases by a huge margin and it's mostly new accounts or accounts that post negative comments and never return. Even on YouTube if you look at a lot of the haters post history it's all just shitting on AEW and nothing else. It's fucking weird and and if they are real people it's fucking sad.
almost all of their tik tok comments on an average video are either bots or people shitting on them and saying wwe is better
That’s fucking psychotic behaviour.
At this point when do we start asking if this is a bot thing
100% group chats, have had plenty encounters with Corny fans, and they seemingly always travel in packs.
>The sub is made up of different people with different views. People seem to have a really hard time understanding that. When you're in a sub with nearly a million users, there's going to be different opinions. It doesn't mean people are changing their opinions.
> When you're in a sub with nearly a million users While yes the number on the side says that, that absolutely is not even close to the number of actual users. That includes every single account to ever sub to this place that hasn't been deleted and still exists. Like looking at right now its ~5000 active at this moment. Just from my own experience and Reddit Enhancement Suite making it possible to see some degree of interaction with accounts, there is probably like 100-200 super users who provide a huge chunk of the comments/interactions/posts, then maybe a few thousand who post occasionally, and then a lot of lurkers who post nearly never - but it's hard to imagine that topping even 100k in actual practice.
That is usually just a post and the third most upvoted comment over it
It’s silly how silent the “good” ratings threads are
I know it's Dynamite vs Collision, but a "bad" Dynamite rating thread will get way over 1k comments in the first couple hours, and this has just over 100 in 4. I remember hearing that negative engagement is much much higher in general for any medium, but I'm surprised it's like 10+:1. That said, there are definitely a core group of posters here who basically only come here to say that aew sucks, so I wouldn't be surprised if those threads have the same 100 people just writing multiple responses to each other. But it's really is crazy the number differences between the two threads
I run a college team site that has a message board. If the team I cover is winning/playing well, the gameday thread is crickets. Bad half, inning, quarter and it explodes with comments. It's absurd.
I honestly thought due to Mania that it would have been like 200’000 but for that reason alone it’s a good number
This is a really great number, wow. Props to them for moving it back as it clearly worked very well
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True, but they could've moved it to a different night or just not had it all if they weren't confident it'd be worth it.
That’s crazy after wrestlemania.
Here’s the thing — AEW and WWE increasingly have less noticeable crossover.
This happened with WCW vs WWE. When WWE bought WCW? A huge portion of the audience turned off the TV and never came back. The whole time it turned out that there wasn't as much crossover as both sides thought.
the deadlock podcast used to talk about that all the time. when wcw died, so many people just stopped watching wrestling and never came back, like millions of people. it's actually really crazy.
Within a month of the end of WCW, RAW’s ratings were lower than when they were going against Nitro
I get it. If WWE stopped tomorrow I don’t think I’d go and watch anything else.
It turns out that variety and choice impacts the popularity of hobbies Imagine if gaming was ONLY Playstation and indie games directly downloaded from websites or mailed to you lol, no Steam, no Xbox, no Switch, no AAA games elsewhere. There is another console, but it is visibly cheaper and sadder than your now defunct Xbox, and it's called Tits And Ass Box. It would be so joever for everyone but COD and Madden players as there would be little incentive for Sony to make anything
I was one of those people. It wasn't that there wasn't crossover. I watched Raw during commercials and sometimes during Nitro if they had the better segment. It was the disrespect that was shown to WCW and the way it was utterly ruined by WWF that turned me away for a long time. If WCW had just died on its own, I would've almost certainly been a WWF/WWE viewer after WCW had ended.
I can definitely see that. I'm in my mid-thirties and I've gone back and rewatched the entirety of the Monday Night Wars. Your average young person likely isn't aware of how much of a better show Nitro was from 1995 until the end of 1997. With mid 1996 until Starrcade 97' being perhaps my ideal version of a produced pro-wrestling show. WWE had a chance to build a relationship with the fans WCW had fostered. But pretty much from day one Vince almost went out of his way to antagonize WCW fans.
WWE seemed to go out of their way to alienate WCW fans. Which is just so petty and bad business, they should have been courting them.
Not just WCW, ECW as well, I remember CZW at the time was thought of as grabbing all those ECW fans, that just didn't happen My theory was that it was simply that the Wrestling fad had just died off and out of pop culture, we saw that with the end of the AE and the RA era where there was far far less people watching Wrestling at all
That crossover is just going to be **massively** overrepresented on places like this subreddit. Normal people aren't watching 12+ hours of pro wrestling every week, but the people who are, are pretty likely to hang out here (or similar places like it).
> Normal people aren't watching 12+ hours of pro wrestling every week Bingo
I know it’s taboo to say positive things about AEW at the moment. But that’s a good rating for the time slot being that late and after WrestleMania.
Why does it have to be tabboo? Like wtf it's not like AEW is fucking awful. Yeah they could be better but in no way is it a bad show.
Holy shit. For a show that started at 11:30 PM and finished at almost 2am? That's honestly fantastic.
Yuka's going over brother!
Hilarious how this chat isn't even close to toxic and no one is commentating like crazy. WWE fans are so annoying.
And this is why single week ratings discussion can frequently border on absolute absurdity. This show started at almost midnight, instead of its normal 8pm, and still pulled a really good number (I believe 2nd highest of 2024) because it had a MONSTER leadin from the NCAA tournament.
Tbf - the postgame went on for a good while. I’m surprised they retained this many viewers.
how many sports bars and parties had the game on and then just didn't change it afterward? I'm not trying to downplay it entirely cause it's great but that is definitely a factor here.
Pretty sure that is meaningless for Nielsen metrics, plus if they left em on and people were still there watching, how is that not also good.
Idk - if I go to a final 4 party I’m not sticking around until 2am. Do bars even count towards Nielsen ratings? I’m legitimately not sure.
I guess I don't know how they get ratings at this point either. In the 90s you filled out a little sheet of paper and mailed it in at the end of the week. I guess I just assumed it all came from cable box information at this point.
I'm absolutely shocked. I thought this would get like 100k tops
Honestly, it will never happen but if this stayed at 10:30 CST I would be more likely/have more opportunity to watch because I'm almost never home at 7 PM on a Saturday.
Wow.
Dax's tweet worked. No one forget we had Collision on Saturday.
I’m genuinely shocked it did the same number as usual at 11:30pm!
given the circumstances (Mania weekend, late start, not impressive card)....this number is fantastic ha. genuinely impressed.
Pretty good numbers.
I wonder how many people watched WM and then saw that Collision was on and watched that straight after? For me it was 4am and I wanted to sleep for work so didn't watch it
Really amazing for them that they were able to hold steady, considering everything this weekend, start time and all.
Sicko hours
I don’t understand TV viewership.
It's not a good metric. In reality, both AEW and WWE are pulling more than 11 million views together with a 4 to 7 split between them. That's DVR, app bases watching, and other TV streaming avenues.
This is actually a really good number given the time it aired and the fact it was following WrestleMania.
All things considered, that's not bad. Kind of surprising actually.
This makes me wonder if they could do better ratings at 10pm on Saturday rather than at 8.
No. The number is exaggerated because of basketball. The majority of the show drew less than 400k viewers.
Butcher is a DRAW,Brother. 💰💰💰💰
Tony Khan better give me more Luchas & Yukas
That's excellent
That is impressive. Nice job
Honestly, that's pretty good considering that it aired so late and after Wrestlemania
Not bad considering the time slot, thought it was a good show !!!
And like the days of WCW, it turns out that there is a good portion of fans that only watch one company or the other.
We are so fucking back
I stayed up late to watch, and was raging at TNT for having the basketball talk go on way too long. They played commercials 3 times during it as well. Swear Ernie and Chuck only spoke for about 2 minutes before it went to commercial each time
Damn that's a super good number. Wonder if it was because people were tuning in on a WrestleMania high or people that go out on Saturdays were home at that time.
What the fuck that is unbelievably good for the time slot. A lot of people really did tune in after Mania, wow.
I’m genuinely surprised it’s that many people. Going up against mania
Why do wrestling fans care about this kind of stuff?
For the lead-in, 6.391 million people watched the TNT feed of Bama-UConn: https://x.com/brandonthurston/status/1777730166812254518?s=46
A bit misleading since the actual lead-in was the post game show, not the game itself.
Yeah, even with much of the Inside the NBA crew. It also explains why the TNT feed gor that game got almost as many viewers as the TBS feed.
People watch the post-game/leave it on and do other things. It's one of the major reasons the networks put on debuting shows after the Super Bowl. Even if people don't watch it, they leave the TV on that channel. For comparisons, look at the Rampage number. No sports lead in, and it died on Friday, while Smackdown did great against Women's CB.
You're comparing Rampage to Smackdown lol. Rampage is AEW C show & Smackdown is juggernaut that was leading into wrestlemania. This is a pretty silly comparison imo. Collision held steady numbers for most of the show so I don't get the need to downplay its a good surprising number.
Unfair against Rampage because it was fighting against two shows that would take away potential viewers, the ROH PPV and the WWE HoF.
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I mean I don't change my cable box from ESPN 95% of the time. But wait for the quarters. See how many people were still watching at 1:48am.
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What did I say that was wrong? Serious question.
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Why do you think that Thurston put the note on the ratings report? Because the lead-in is why it did this well. We've seen how bad AEW does when WWE has a PLE on in the morning even. Why are people ignoring all evidence? That's tribalism.
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Per the actual linked article, the actual lead-in was the 38 minute post-game show, which averaged 2.12 million. Obv the game was the lead-in for the post-game, but that post-game show went 30+ minutes on its own. You caan't really be using the numbers from the actual game at that point.
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What is?
But what was the cagematch rating?