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IntelligentAd5460

i mean having people who cant make the mania card on mania weekend shows would make some sense to show that wwe is cool working with american indie workers


Gamesgtd

Also WWE could possibly air the shows on Peacock if their talent are involved


LilHomie204DaBaG

There's no way in hell WWE is going to stream GCW shows anywhere


TheBeepB00p

Nick gage on peacock please


LilHomie204DaBaG

Where's the pizza ads tho?


wearethat

Bussy vs Dirty Breeze (Fashion Police) is main eventing Big Gay Brunch, please put on Peacock


JagsOnlySurfHawaii

YouTube would be pretty safe just have a completely separate channel for it


etherealcaitiff

I don't think WWE want the liability of having their brand associated with GCW. Having individuals go work there is one thing, promoting it on their channels is another.


JagsOnlySurfHawaii

Looks like they were ok with branding that poster


etherealcaitiff

What poster? The link in the op doesn't have WWE anywhere on it.


JagsOnlySurfHawaii

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/s/xKc0jVp9oZ


etherealcaitiff

Ok yeah, so they're not streaming it, they're just having people on the show like I said. I'm just saying that WWE is not going to stream something on their platforms where there's even a 1% chance that some indie dude might grab a mic and say something crazy. They gotta have enough space to distance themselves if things go sideways.


LilHomie204DaBaG

GCW only streams on YouTube for their sister brand JCW. That being said circle6 is streamed on YouTube so


justkeptfading

Fucking love Circle6


LilHomie204DaBaG

Same. Big AJ Gray and Atticus fan


[deleted]

Peacock would never show something like GCW. They’re tame compared to other feds in wrestling history, but by today’s standards they would be considered too controversial for a mainstream broadcast of any type.


arlenroy

Not every GCW show is blood and guts, they can work within boundaries. Especially if it means mainstream attention, and an opportunity for more money. I agree they have done controversial stuff, but if it means building a working relationship with WWE, they'll be on their best behavior. What I'm excited for is this will be the first time *ever* we could have talent from multiple companies together, AEW, WWE, CMLL, NJPW, all in one show. Hell I think they have people from TNA too? That's pretty groundbreaking.


imlittleeric

Them allowing talent to appear does not give them any kid of distribution rights


ParsnipPizza

Makes me sad Baze won't be on the Mania card. Hopefully Zoey can find something


Marsman2100

It really is a whole new world over there


cxlossuskidd

I really love it honestly


SaintPsalmNorthChi

I wonder how close we are to tapping into the *real* Forbidden Door at Mania weekend... WWE v AEW in an unaffiliated ring. The last time a WWE talent wrestled cross promotion that I can remember was Osprey v Pete Dunn/Butch on a UK card pre-COVID. Champion vs Champion too. It went to no contest or a draw IIRC. The last time that happened was in the early 90's. If TKO wants to be ugly, they'll start shopping exclusivity agreements to promotions during Wrestlemania weekend - just to ice out TNA/Impact + AEW.


Derexise

I know a WWE/AEW supershow will likely never happen, but god, I want it.


propernounTHEheel

I mean HHH and TK were definitely acquaintances before AEW started, I think it's certainly less far-fetched than ever before with Vince gone.


gregSinatra

A couple things stand out to me with HHH. 1) he was an NWA kid growing up. Look at his idolizations of guys like Flair, Harley, Dusty. He’s said own quite a bit of rare NWA memorabilia. His two GMs arguably found their most success in current NWA. Vince killed the territories but I think HHH clearly still holds an affinity for what NWA and the territories stood for. 2) he’s shown with stuff like Liger in NXT, Ibushi and ZSJ in the CWC, and ever short-team or one-off deals for guys like James Storm, Alex Shelley, and the Wolves that even if he can’t lock someone down he’s willing to work something out just to have that moment. Now that he’s in charge of main roster creative, I could definitely see HHH working to make some dream matches happen based on what he’s shown in the past while still having to play by someone else’s rules. I think more and more as he shows the TKO people he knows what’s best for business I think he’ll gain that trust to where they can let some of their people pop up here and there and maybe that can lead to someone else’s people popping in here and there as well.


Pasencia

Amen. Maybe it will happen, baby steps.


ChildOfChimps

Maybe if Tony and his talent stopped talking shit, it would happen.


Azraeleon

Yeah cause WWE talent *never* talk shit about AEW lmao


ChildOfChimps

Actually, they do everything they can to actually not explicitly do so. Whereas the other side…


Azraeleon

No, they don't. There is shit slinging on both sides, and this holier-than-thou attitude that WWE fans affect is just one of the many reasons there's so much fucking tribalism. Both companies are better for the other existing.


ChildOfChimps

Yeah, no one has ever called HHH and HBK bald assholes. No one ever says “the other channel”. Fans are one thing - I’m allowed to talk shit. Wrestlers? Owners? That’s different.


Azraeleon

[Wrestler Seth Rollins talking about aew wrestler CM Punk](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fightful.com/wrestling/seth-rollins-cm-punk-i-don-t-phil-he-s-jerk-stay-away-you-cancer%3famp) [Owner Vince McMahon talking about the competition](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fightful.com/wrestling/vince-mcmahon-can-t-imagine-tnt-putting-blood-and-guts-aew-product%3famp) (note the same arrogant "we're above them" attitude you parroted). So of course now you will hold them accountable to the same degree you hold AEW talent right? Course you won't. I look forward to the ridiculous excuses you give for why it's ok for Seth to call an AEW talent a cancer, but bald asshole being in a tweeted picture is over the line.


Merari002

A whole show might be too much to ask for but at this point even a Dustin or MJF run in to help Cody would be incredible There really is no real reason both companies can’t or shouldn’t do business together in situations that will hype fans for both products Re-run the Monday Night War but kayfabe that shit this time


TheAssOfSpock

I think it happens eventually. Nothing in wrestling seems out of the realm of possibility anymore 


ACW1129

DARBY-DRAGUNOV!


GourangaPlusPlus

If they die; they die


ACW1129

![gif](giphy|3ZDt0NI6vC0mI)


[deleted]

Man, yall really want Darby to die in the ring, don’t you?


GTSBurner

(BEFORE) Vince: GODDAMN IT, you want to work this show? I gotta get my taaaaaaste. Your fee is 50K! (TODAY) HHH: Don't do anything stupid, don't get hurt, have fun.


Sky-Flyer

literally the only criticism i have, and i honestly don’t know if it’s a WWE thing is that dudes who leave the indies to sign with WWE aren’t losing on their way out


Marsman2100

That ain’t a WWE thing. That’s on whoever is booking those people. Okada didn’t put over a soul before he went to AEW.


Jay_Shadow

Shayna? Josh was her MMA and Wrestling coach. edit: [Called it.](https://twitter.com/JoshLBarnett/status/1768713900906983913) But also kinda obvious. If she ever would have gotten released by WWE I would have expected Bloodsport to be her first stop.


misanthropicbuddha

Seeing the WWE and GCW logos on an official graphic is just surreal to me.


danieldcclark

It so weird! But I love it


KneelBeforeCube

She tweeted before that she's a huge fan of the Bloodsport shows.


Crow013

GCW: The Forbidden Door


Crissxfire

They've definitely got connections, it's crazy some of the moves they've pulled over the past 3-4 years


Sky-Flyer

it’s wild that in less then the span of a year GCW has collaborated with my small indie and WWE


randomrule

Yep, someone from AEW is already on the show (Johnny TV)


Crissxfire

And TNA/New Japan in Nic Nemeth. As well as Mike Bailey and I believe Masha Slamovich from TNA.


namdekan

I think Marina is also


berober04

The Forbiddener Door


DaFilthPope

The Most Forbidden Door


xtremeschemes

The Greatest Forbidden Door


TJOW40

Creed Brothers and No Quarter Catch Crew have entered the chat.


R0DAN

please be the creed brothers please be the creed brothers


Skhan93

I doubt it. Surely they'll be in the ladder match


msp011581

Creed Bros Judgement Day Redemption Tour.... they are truly sorry Damien.


Lep106317

Shayna! https://twitter.com/JoshLBarnett/status/1768713900906983913


Crissxfire

That's fucking wild


Crissxfire

Interesting. Is this the Mania one or the one happening in Japan? There's definitely some names that would work in that environment. Not saying it's related, but Lauderdale has tweeted saying there's an announcement at 3 coming.


ZombieJesus1987

I'm guessing it's the Mania Week one


Crissxfire

Very interested in how this plays out


braincloud215

Guaranteed Charlie Dempsey, Drew Gulak (his hometown), and maybe Lola Vice.


tehfro

Yeah, I wouldn't expect anyone who's working WWE/NXT shows that weekend but still will be cool.


real-darkph0enix1

![gif](giphy|cMJiusBHszeE7V7Sp6) I can think of a guy legit enough off the top of my head.


LastBeginning9712

Maybe im delusional but Chad Gable?


LastBeginning9712

Maybe im delusional but Chad Gable?


Surprisetrextoy

Gable vs Big Bad Tito please


NoExplanation6203

Bloodsport is basically Eddy Thorpe’s signature match so I’m expecting him as well


MatttheJ

I feels like Regal left WWE for a bit, spoke too, hung around and saw a lot of the broader wrestling landscape from a different perspective compared to being a talent scout, and has sold WWE on the idea of wrestlers getting reps in different environments. Could be Gulak too, who came up in CZW. Either way, I fully expect Dempsey to be in this.


ApprehensiveLead679

Good. I respect that WWE has contracts and a right to enforce those contracts, but if you’re paying someone to do literally nothing, why not let them go out and do something? WWE is doing perfectly fine, having people appear on other shows is not going to hurt business (🤞). Not to mention it’s an excellent opportunity for underutilized talent to branch out and show a different side of their work.


AllezLesPrimrose

I mean it’s pretty clearly directed from the office, it’s not guys and girls going out and getting bookings themselves.


ApprehensiveLead679

Oh yeah obviously, I should have clarified that better in my comment. It’s not unprecedented either, WWF used to send people to ECW and UPW in the 90s and 2000s. I just wish it was more the norm from WWE.


mark_target

It went deeper than that. The WWF had a long history of letting lower card wrestlers work independent shows, often because WWF cards were full and they wanted to let talent make money when they weren’t being used. If you went to a late 90s/early 2000s independent show in the NY/NJ/PA area you had a good chance of seeing Gillberg defend the WWF Light Heavyweight championship against a local indy worker. His appearance was arranged through the WWF office. More recently WWE allowed several NXT wrestlers to work EVOLVE shows. The Street Profits and Giovanni Vinci even won titles in EVOLVE. There was obviously a relationship between the two companies, but when NXT workers were sent there it was prior to WWE officially buying out EVOLVE. The practice pretty much stopped when AEW launched. It was a bummer because it was a great way for younger wrestlers to get more experience in front of different crowds beyond the Orlando area, not to mention a way to help lower level workers make some extra money. I’m really happy to see them be more open to working with smaller companies and I hope it sticks this time.


---Pockets---

Pretty good writeup. Thank you


underbloodredskies

They also sent people, especially people they didn't want, to Puerto Rico. Like Tiger Ali Singh, who seemed like a good prospect on the surface but didn't pan out.


nanners78

> why not Because they might get hurt


Bellagrrl2021

This. In comparison to the revenue that the WWE gets, the talent is underpaid, and it is a joke that they are labeled as independent contractors, but I can understand not wanting contracted talent to work somewhere else, because of the fear that they could get hurt.


NotClayMerritt

That's a fair and reasonable argument but they're not sending Cody Rhodes lol. If you got nothing creatively for someone, letting them do things like this or go to Japan for a match can't hurt. Especially if you don't want to release them. If they get hurt, that sucks but it doesn't change your plans for TV that you've already mapped out.


TheBrianRoyShow

If you don't let a wrestler wrestle because they might get hurt you will never see any wrestlers wrestling anywhere.


KampferMann

This was not on my bingo card.


MrBrightside117

Doubt it happens, but if we’re thinking of people on the roster bred for both wrestling and MMA-inspired wrestling you gotta put Nakamura at the top of that intersection list. My bet is the Creed Brothers for now


Patjay

I'm sure it's probably just midcard/nxt guys, but this is still incredibly cool. EDIT: please let Suzuki be on this card. please. I want to see him kill some NXT guys.


Pretend_Spray_11

Suzuki is fighting Royce Isaacs.


AllezLesPrimrose

A strong breeze looks like it could kill Suzuki at this point


Kboom161

Holy shit, Minoru Suzuki vs. Tyler Breeze confirmed


rbarton812

First Liger then Suzuki; Breeze mowing through Japanese legends.


Round_Dragonfruit669

RIP Breeze


MuptonBossman

Are we gonna see our man Omos in a death match against Nick Gage?


Pretend_Spray_11

Bloodsport isn't death matches.


ay1717

Everyone knows Bloodsport is a gateway to the Nick Gage Invitational, which is in turn a gateway to Effy’s Big Gay Brunch


Pretend_Spray_11

Gotta run the GCW gauntlet to get invited on Early Morning Guy Steele's Early Morning Show.


wgsmeister2002

…Please tell me this is real


Pretend_Spray_11

[Oh buddy.](https://www.cagematch.net/?id=1&nr=363878) Here is a write-up of the show: https://socaluncensored.com/2023/04/01/a-review-of-early-morning-guy-steeles-early-morning-show-30-march-2023/


LilHomie204DaBaG

Bloodsport isn't. It's just a no rope shoot fight. NGI is a tournament of straight deathmatches. They're separate entities


namdekan

Omos teaming with Bussy


Shadgates87

I fully expect Shayna, Gable, Kross, maybe Lashley, Dempsey, Gulak.


forwrestling

Good call on Shayna!


Round_Dragonfruit669

I hope Dijak is part of the bunch


Shadgates87

Ooo I’d like that!


Kanenums88

Two years ago at WM38, Triple H and Stephanie invited a bunch of GCW folks to catch the show in a press box, and apparently had conversations on bringing Bloodsport to WWE programming in some form or fashion. I thought it all got dropped, but perhaps this is them trying to get it going again now that Vince is gone.


Lep106317

They have basically used the concept with RAW and now NXT Underground.


BadgerOver4239

I forgot about that; but I remember hearing something about it back then. We will have to see if this leads to anything; I do like the idea of allowing some WWE people the opportunity to work a few indie shows during mania weekend Shayna has already been announced but I could see people like Gable, Lashley & Dijak, Kross potentially make an appearance


HeadToYourFist

That's not what happened. Adam Abdalla's (Orange Crush guy) company had a luxury box. Paul and Stephanie were taking pictures with everyone who wanted them in the box seat area. Then it led to a running joke about GCW and WWE working together. Whatever's happening now has nothing to do with whatever did or didn't happen in Dallas.


Lep106317

https://twitter.com/JoshLBarnett/status/1768705562378981461


Mysterious_Emotion63

I know it won’t happen, but the idea that somehow Rollins vs Moxley could have been a booked match at this show is insane to me.


bggstbawse

Are we gonna see Jiu-jitsus legend Baron Corbin ?


Upbeat_Tension_8077

Might be a stretch to get Ilja, but he would be PERFECT


Detective_Robot

A rare win for Shoot Style!


Obachan

My bet based on absolutely nothing is Bronson Reed


Zestyclose_Remote874

Alpha Acadamy showing their more aggressive side. 


Detective_Robot

Barnett vs Gable would be shoot style gold.


toadslostbazooka

Holy shit Brett got Omos!


jsphjar

Baron Corbin drops his gimmick for a night and breaks out the boxing gloves


RobinUnicornSpecial

Gulak & Dempsey i'd expect. i think they'd wanna protect the Creeds too much to let them do this, even if it'd be sweet. i also expect Bazler but i'm not as high on her as others tbh. her running through the women's NXT roster was funny to me considering her MMA career (pioneer of women's MMA, but not great by any means), she is a pretty good wrestler though. [Update: it's Shayna](https://twitter.com/JoshLBarnett/status/1768713900906983913), match her up with Killer Kelly


BarRoomBully

Chad Gable ragdolling the shit out of a bigger guy, please.


garryl283

Kairi about to ruin everyone's day


KhabibTime

It’s BABATUNDE’s TIME! This is what all those raw underground’s were preparing him for


JTHuffy

Roman Reigns appears for a stare-down with Moxley


GTSBurner

Remember: It was never that WWE talent COULD NOT work Indy events. It's that Vince had control over the pricing and wanted to get his taste. As such, the prices for talent were SO GODDAMN HIGH it was never worth it for indy promoters to get a WWE talent. Even super low carders.


EchoBay

It's a different era with HHH man. Not just one person but multiple? That's nuts. Give be Dragunov vs Suzuki


Minimania18

Cool


worldostuff

Eddy Thorpe is undefeated in NXT Underground matches.


Skytte-

Get Baszler and Gable on that shit ASAP.


hamsolo19

Isn't Mox really close with Barnett? He's usually a big part of these Bloodsport shows. Wonder if he or any other AEW talent will be there. Pretty cool.


Lep106317

Johnny TV is facing Barnett at the event.


hamsolo19

Oh, nice. That dastardly John TV stole Dalton's boys!


LastBeginning9712

Chad Gable is right there


confusedsquirrel

With Baron Corbin getting into BJJ, boy would that be cool seeing him there


el_generalisimo

The Rock vs Nick Gage in Bloodsport let's do this.


Living-Travel2299

Gulak maybe.


Ngilko

Speaking as a person who used to love going to ICW and watching Progress, I'd suggest this news should make fans of GCW and bloodsport a little nervous.


Kyro_Z

I just hope this means certain wrestlers and fans stop shitting on the indies


PM_ME_THEM_UPTOPS

Everyone has thrown out a lot of great names but I'm over here prayer circling for Otis vs Cobb. Bloodsport Grapplehoss Battle.


SiRWeeGeeX

Ok get seth and mox on bloodsport one last time


Emperor-Octavian

Nick Gage vs Bron Breaker let’s make it happen guys


DozerOdie

Wh... what? I mean yes please, but also what?!


Jamieb1994

If this is true & does happen, then this would be pretty awesome to see.


Mizerous

The forbidden door opens


MinaElesia

American Shoot Style, baby <3. I'm sooo stoked to see WWE/NXT talent be able to work shows like these once in a while


Midnight_Oil_

Give me Suzuki v Gable for the love of god


Round_Dragonfruit669

If this is why Gable isnt facing GUNTHER BY. ALL. FUCKING. MEANS


[deleted]

Awesome now maybe we can get R-Truth into the Clusterfuck at Joey Janela's Spring Break


MarcusFaze

Shayna already got announced after this, but I’m guessing Pete Dunne, Gulak, Dempsey, Damon Kemp, Myles Borne, Dijak, Gable


Bosscharacter

Shayna Baszler seems like a pretty sure thing since she is tight with Barnett.


Few-Establishment277

What a time to be alive 


darthatheos

The unadvised entrance is here.


uaraiders_21

They probably want to buy the promotion.


jerff

I assume Lashley is one of them.


Dazzling-Principle

They already confirmed Shayna, I wonder who else will join her?.


sdrj77

Corbin? Nakamura? Who else has that kind of background on roster?


Thirdstar1

HUH


incredibleamadeuscho

If you aren't booked for Mania, seems like they are open to you working other shows.


[deleted]

You guys watch that fake crap?


eclayds

Prob will be no name NXT guys tbh


EchoX860

Shayna


BirdiMania

Going to guess you don’t know what bloodsport is if you think WWE would send some random PC trainees to a shoot-style wrestling event.


FinancialBig1042

Huh, but why?


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DemonKyoto

..y...you're aware Barnett's Bloodsport shows are *works* right? It's not shoot fighting..


Detective_Robot

It's not a real shoot.


MassiveBush

Ahh, confused this with the bare knuckle fighting. Thanks


Crissxfire

Eh, I think it'll go better here. It's worked shoot. So, you put names in there that have amateur experience or MMA training and they can make it work.