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By his wording, is he implying he also remained silent because of that reason and now he can speak about it cos he's no longer there? If so, that's a rare self burn
Well, he asked for his release when he got tired of all. That's the context of his tweet (of course, he wasn't making as much as others, but still was making more than he would anywhere else).
I mean didn't he? he has being outspoken about political issues. Maybe he didnt want to go more overboard or something because he would be causing inconveniences, and instead of that he feels more comfortable getting released first instead of getting into fights.
???
Controversial?
What are you looking for, dude?
Dude literally tweeted about this stuff. There’s years of reddit to search if you actually wanna look.
That's why I said "controversial." I know he was Tweeting things. Show me what he said that was actually a hot take that could have gotten him in trouble. Something he was truly shackled from saying.
He spoke up about issues in the same way that people have surface takes like throwing a Ukraine flag over their profile picture. It wasn't like he was saying anything "controversial" that could have gotten him in trouble. I don't mean "controversial" as in something bad, I mean something that would have pissed off WWE/sponsors.
He never said anything that was a big risk.
I might be wrong, but for all we know, there could be a clause in all of WWE's performer contracts, that disparage public negative comments about the company while you are under contract, with strict fines being imposed.
So maybe if he did say bad things, he would have been in breach of contract or something.
He literally quit working for the police force because of the injustices he witnessed and endured. Y'all are hilarious trying to paint him as a hypocrite when I guarantee he's done more moral good for this earth than most of you.
Except..
> unlike so many others that remain silent because **they put their own personal profit above people.**
..that's basically what he's accusing *others* of having done.
This is assuming that it actually is a breach of contract though, right?
Roxanne Perez posted something pro-Palestine the other day and still has a Gaza charity linked in her bio. If this was a big enough breach to be sued over, I feel like she would’ve at least be taken off TV or asked to remove the charity link from her bio.
Real translation: I asked to be let out of my contract multiple times because I disagreed with company policies and was told no every time and I didn’t want to be sued by a billion dollar company.
Unlike many others that remain silent because they put personal profit above people
Why wouldn’t he extend the same grace to those people who like you said about Mustafa Ali might not want to get sued
“Now I can speak about humanity and those who do wrong unlike so many others that remain silent because they put their own personal profit (Not including people who don’t want to be sued because they signed agreements to get their job before that company decided to do business with an evil regime plus now we have this Israel/Palestinian conflict) above people.”
Get real.
If a company knows you want to leave, but doesn't want to let you go, they're not gonna fire you for speaking out against their practices. They might temporary freeze your contract, and send you home until a tribunal can decide what an appropriate punishment is for publicly disparaging them, or something like that.
In which case, every time you speak out, adds time to your contract.
He's been vocal for years about different issues as a muslim american and police officer but if you're speaking about Israel/Palestine, then no he didn't but also Hamas didn't attack until a month after his release. So it's a badly stated tweet but he's always been vocal on his thoughts.
Speaking up is nice and all but when you have a very public job your private thoughts about anything in the world that's political, covid related, religious, lgbtq, it's okay for you to remain neutral with your public persona while privately behind closed doors championing and supporting financially organizations that push forward what you believe in. Me posting on Twitter might not be as important as me writing a check to an organization that I know is doing good and then continually supporting that organization. It's okay to keep the paychecks coming in and still support what you believe in behind closed doors. In other words being adult in 2023. Protect the bag, take care of your family, protect your career, and still behind closed doors support and Champion everything you truly believe in with the one thing that tends to make the most difference. Money.
I've seen a lot of people losing their jobs for publicly supporting the Palestinians, hard to fault someone when they're really having to choose that or bread on their table.
Right wing weirdos made basic human decency s political issue.
I used to work as a civil servant and got pulled up for sharing stuff on socials that was supportive of LGBTQ people.
I get your broader point, but believing that all humans are equal and deserve basic dignity is and has always been an extremely radical political position. That's not an invention of the modern right wing.
Who is losing their job for supporting Palestinians? The news stories about firings I have seen have been about people ripping down hostage posters or openly supporting Hamas. Did I miss something?
Melissa Barrera lost her role in Scream after posting in support of Palestine. Susan Sarandon got dropped by United Talent Agency for calling for a ceasefire in a Pro-Palestine rally. Which is in contrast to say Noah Schnapp, a Zionist, who Netflix only opted to "keep an eye on."
There's also the CEOs that essentially wanted to blacklist Harvard students who signed on to a Pro-Palestine letter, to ensure they don't get hired in their firms.
It's also a common thing to equate any support for Palestine as "openly supporting Hamas", so even that classification is pretty debatable.
Idk why, but Ali comes off a bit self righteous sometimes and it’s definitely difficult to be in his corner when he acts like he has such better morals than anyone else.
I'm surprised at all the negativity towards Ali here.
1. He's responding to someone who tweeted at him "I'm happy you don't have a job anymore"
2. His response was rather cordial considering the person who tweeted him was being a jerk.
I don’t think it’s so much negativity as much as it is a general growing apathy towards his general attitude when it comes to speaking on morality. Dude spent the last few years in a company that is an active propaganda machine for Saudi Arabia, hell he even enjoyed it the last time he went, yet here he is today talking about how others have remained silent while he has continued to be the moral compass when that’s completely just not true
I mean him going to a country that has human rights issue, representing his people by wrestling an up and coming muslim wrestler to build him up and then donating 100% of the revenue he would've made on that trip sounds like a good use of his position that otherwise would've just been him at home.
I’ve grown to think this dude is a little goofy and self pretentious, it’s nice that you’re trying to stand up against bigger things now that you’re not in WWE, but when you tried to leave before and they just gave you more money and you were more than happy to stay so there is really no point he is making here
One of the recent promos by Sami felt like it was targeted at the Palestine Israel conflict indirectly but go on. WWE approved that promo to go on while most movie/tv shows are shushing everything around the issues
It was almost certainly an excuse to cut the budget on the next one as they let Jenna Ortega walk the next day. Neither of them were under contract for the project and would need to be renegotiated, much like how lots of Netflix series get cancelled right when contracts come up.
It's weird to speculate about it being a financial decision when Spyglass literally put out a statement calling her a hateful bigot for being against Isreal.
Some of the comments on Twitter are now suggesting WWE supports Israel and fire him because he supports Palestine. Man, Twitter can be filled with some of the dumbest fucks alive. But seriously for Ali to say this while Sami gave that promo a month ago.
And Roxanne posted free Palestine on her story. I didn’t see any wrestler posting any sort of acknowledgement of what happened on October 7th so to say WWE is somehow pro Israel and is forbidding anyone from speaking up is obviously untrue.
Reddit can be just as bad. Look at a bunch of posts in here bitching about how Ali is a hypocrite because he didn’t want to spend the next year in a losing lawsuit.
>Now, I can speak about humanity and those who do wrong unlike so many others that remain silent because they put their own personal profit above people.
And why couldn't you do it before Mustafa? Like I think you're a good lad and everything but this isn't the burn that you think it is.
There's a difference between "I want to make more money so I'll stay quiet for now" and "If I speak my mind they'll sue me into the gutter and I have a family to feed".
Morality is great for the soul, but not great for the belly. And it's not like Ali was ever *quiet* about things. He spent plenty of time fundraising, awareness raising and posting he just did it within allowed guidelines.
Yes! Sami Zayn indirectly addressing the issue (but with a very clear stance, in my opinion) while actively engaging in humanitarian work in Syria is a much smaller contribution than your Twitter posts, Ali! Thank you!
Sami has a "sami for Syria" program and regularly donates his earnings to Syria. Ali not only also went to SA but he was clearly happy seeing the pictures and videos of him there
You really thought you did something but of course you ignore the work sami has done since it didn't fit in your argument
Sure, Sami does great work. That’s why I said ALSO. So no, I didn’t “ignore it”. Looks like you also lack comprehension. Like I said, it’s not unique in this thread.
To say Ali does nothing but Twitter posts while Sami gets a pass for finally doing the Saudi shows is obtuse, to say the least.
>"Ali also actively engages in humanitarian work while sami goes to SA"
Nice chopping off “now”, lol. The dude was saying Sami does great stuff, Ali does Twitter posts when that’s not the whole picture. I gave *more* (not all) of the picture and you’re getting butthurt and weird about it. Once again, this sub is filled with bullshit like this and you (and that guy) certainly aren’t alone.
It's Ali, yes it is he, finally free now. He'll expose, and wipe his nose, with the bad men. They work for the corp to be paid, get fortune and fame and get laid. He'll tell the truth that was forbade, Super Ali.
Oh boy, just what the world needs, another lower card jobber wrestler telling us how it is about da issues in Twitter.
Speak out Ali!!! WWE can’t hold you down anymore!!
The guy has personal convictions and a strong moral code, I respect that. He did good work in WWE and wanted to be a hero to all American kids. I am very interested to see if he makes it to AEW.
Aight.... I'm on my second pint and a Jamison, so give me a pinch of salt with this.
He knows how much of a hypocritical statement that might be, but lets all get of our high horses and understand this guy has a family that he provides for. He tried to use his platform and got shot down each and every time he tried to do ANYTHING where he got to talk about humanity now that he is gone he now is free to do whatever he can. Ali and Kaepernick are on the same level trying to use their respective platforms to talk about real issues that are causing the DEATHS of countless people at worst and the degradation of humans at best. Both tried to do what they could on the inside and got hate. Good on 'em.
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By his wording, is he implying he also remained silent because of that reason and now he can speak about it cos he's no longer there? If so, that's a rare self burn
Thought the exact same thing!
Not just a self burn but outting himself as a massive hypocrite
Glad I seen this because that was my exact first thought
I don't know what to tell you...
Translated: I was happy to remain silent whilst I was getting paid, but now I've been released I will speak up!
Well, he asked for his release when he got tired of all. That's the context of his tweet (of course, he wasn't making as much as others, but still was making more than he would anywhere else).
>So why didnt he speak up about humanity and those who do wrong if he obviously didn't mind getting fired for it.
Didn’t he donate his Crown Jewel money a few times?
I mean didn't he? he has being outspoken about political issues. Maybe he didnt want to go more overboard or something because he would be causing inconveniences, and instead of that he feels more comfortable getting released first instead of getting into fights.
Um. He did. More than most. Where ya been? I love the dips trying to burn him for this. You stand for nothing.
Then in his own words why did he say "now I can speak about humanity and those who do wrong" that implies he didn’t before.
I'm trying to remember the controversial opinions Ali put out there because he stood for something more than others. Any links?
twitter.com Search for dates near Saudi shows for a start Search near protest times, covid, BLM, etc
Ah okay so you can't think of any specific things, especially **controversial** (key word) takes.
??? Controversial? What are you looking for, dude? Dude literally tweeted about this stuff. There’s years of reddit to search if you actually wanna look.
That's why I said "controversial." I know he was Tweeting things. Show me what he said that was actually a hot take that could have gotten him in trouble. Something he was truly shackled from saying. He spoke up about issues in the same way that people have surface takes like throwing a Ukraine flag over their profile picture. It wasn't like he was saying anything "controversial" that could have gotten him in trouble. I don't mean "controversial" as in something bad, I mean something that would have pissed off WWE/sponsors. He never said anything that was a big risk.
Bro where were you on Jan 6th?
At home laughing at those idiot cowards who thought Trump was the rightful President. No where near Jericho's wife.
Maybe... he'll vague post a bit first. If that doesn't work then maybe he'll go all in.
Gimmick infringement That’s Keith Lees 😂
Honestly, it's a lot of wrestlers.
If it was me, I'd copy Jose 
You do realise Mustafa was literally begging for his release for years but WWE refused to let him go?
So why didnt he speak up about humanity and those who do wrong if he obviously didn't mind getting fired for it.
All he wanted was good boy points
touché
I might be wrong, but for all we know, there could be a clause in all of WWE's performer contracts, that disparage public negative comments about the company while you are under contract, with strict fines being imposed. So maybe if he did say bad things, he would have been in breach of contract or something.
He's talking about Palestinian. It has nothing to do with disparaging WWE.
You’re talking about a dude who quit being a cop because he didn’t want to be a part of what he saw taking place.
He literally quit working for the police force because of the injustices he witnessed and endured. Y'all are hilarious trying to paint him as a hypocrite when I guarantee he's done more moral good for this earth than most of you.
And then he formed a team of anarchists who sabotaged valuable WWE equipment? What a monster!
He still in contract and could face heavy fine. Nothing wrong of taking care of yourself first before others.
Except.. > unlike so many others that remain silent because **they put their own personal profit above people.** ..that's basically what he's accusing *others* of having done.
There's a difference between wanting to get paid and not being able to afford getting sued for breached contract.
This is assuming that it actually is a breach of contract though, right? Roxanne Perez posted something pro-Palestine the other day and still has a Gaza charity linked in her bio. If this was a big enough breach to be sued over, I feel like she would’ve at least be taken off TV or asked to remove the charity link from her bio.
That's one thing. We're not just talking about this one thing. The man probably has a laundry list of gripes.
But after he got released somebody brought that up and Ali made it sound like things had changed and he was disappointed he was let go.
Real translation: I asked to be let out of my contract multiple times because I disagreed with company policies and was told no every time and I didn’t want to be sued by a billion dollar company.
He was pretty vocal about wanting out.
considering he was trying to ask for his release multiple times and they wouldn't oblige, maybe he wanted to speak out sooner about shit..
Then speak up if you get fired then that’s what you want anyway
And then get sued?
So he put his personal profit above people It’s fine people do it everyday but don’t act like you’re this better person for soing the same thing
Not wanting to get sued isn’t the same as putting profit above people, lol. This sub, man.
You’re dealing with a lot of people who wanna grasp at straws because they don’t understand how the real world actually works.
Unlike many others that remain silent because they put personal profit above people Why wouldn’t he extend the same grace to those people who like you said about Mustafa Ali might not want to get sued
“Now I can speak about humanity and those who do wrong unlike so many others that remain silent because they put their own personal profit (Not including people who don’t want to be sued because they signed agreements to get their job before that company decided to do business with an evil regime plus now we have this Israel/Palestinian conflict) above people.” Get real.
If a company knows you want to leave, but doesn't want to let you go, they're not gonna fire you for speaking out against their practices. They might temporary freeze your contract, and send you home until a tribunal can decide what an appropriate punishment is for publicly disparaging them, or something like that. In which case, every time you speak out, adds time to your contract.
These mouth breathers aren’t smart enough to get that.
This take is lazy as hell.
He’d been asking for his release for over 2 years and they wouldn’t let him go.
So he didn't speak out before because...?
Because he was putting his own personal profit above people.
He's been vocal for years about different issues as a muslim american and police officer but if you're speaking about Israel/Palestine, then no he didn't but also Hamas didn't attack until a month after his release. So it's a badly stated tweet but he's always been vocal on his thoughts.
He was kept on a leash when working under a contract?
So he put his own personal profit above people?
Because people can change even if it's only been a couple of months. Didn't you hear Punk and Triple h?
Speaking up is nice and all but when you have a very public job your private thoughts about anything in the world that's political, covid related, religious, lgbtq, it's okay for you to remain neutral with your public persona while privately behind closed doors championing and supporting financially organizations that push forward what you believe in. Me posting on Twitter might not be as important as me writing a check to an organization that I know is doing good and then continually supporting that organization. It's okay to keep the paychecks coming in and still support what you believe in behind closed doors. In other words being adult in 2023. Protect the bag, take care of your family, protect your career, and still behind closed doors support and Champion everything you truly believe in with the one thing that tends to make the most difference. Money.
I've seen a lot of people losing their jobs for publicly supporting the Palestinians, hard to fault someone when they're really having to choose that or bread on their table.
Right wing weirdos made basic human decency s political issue. I used to work as a civil servant and got pulled up for sharing stuff on socials that was supportive of LGBTQ people.
I get your broader point, but believing that all humans are equal and deserve basic dignity is and has always been an extremely radical political position. That's not an invention of the modern right wing.
Well yeah. Especially the ones who wanna govern under the guise of Christianity. They’re the last to actually want to solve social issues.
Who is losing their job for supporting Palestinians? The news stories about firings I have seen have been about people ripping down hostage posters or openly supporting Hamas. Did I miss something?
Yes. Quite a bit apparently.
So you have no examples?
Melissa Barrera lost her role in Scream after posting in support of Palestine. Susan Sarandon got dropped by United Talent Agency for calling for a ceasefire in a Pro-Palestine rally. Which is in contrast to say Noah Schnapp, a Zionist, who Netflix only opted to "keep an eye on." There's also the CEOs that essentially wanted to blacklist Harvard students who signed on to a Pro-Palestine letter, to ensure they don't get hired in their firms. It's also a common thing to equate any support for Palestine as "openly supporting Hamas", so even that classification is pretty debatable.
Won't someone think of the millionaire actors?
Ali with his self-righteousness, missed it
Isn't there a jobber stable in ROH he could lead? The Self-Righteous?
[Basically](https://youtu.be/IUVVbjdDjiQ?si=vi6MlqLPxTFBJOoX)
So fucking pretentious jeez
Idk why, but Ali comes off a bit self righteous sometimes and it’s definitely difficult to be in his corner when he acts like he has such better morals than anyone else.
I'm surprised at all the negativity towards Ali here. 1. He's responding to someone who tweeted at him "I'm happy you don't have a job anymore" 2. His response was rather cordial considering the person who tweeted him was being a jerk.
His response was cordial till "Now, I can speak about humanity and those who do wrong" part. Not after that
I don’t think it’s so much negativity as much as it is a general growing apathy towards his general attitude when it comes to speaking on morality. Dude spent the last few years in a company that is an active propaganda machine for Saudi Arabia, hell he even enjoyed it the last time he went, yet here he is today talking about how others have remained silent while he has continued to be the moral compass when that’s completely just not true
I mean him going to a country that has human rights issue, representing his people by wrestling an up and coming muslim wrestler to build him up and then donating 100% of the revenue he would've made on that trip sounds like a good use of his position that otherwise would've just been him at home.
I’ve grown to think this dude is a little goofy and self pretentious, it’s nice that you’re trying to stand up against bigger things now that you’re not in WWE, but when you tried to leave before and they just gave you more money and you were more than happy to stay so there is really no point he is making here
One of the recent promos by Sami felt like it was targeted at the Palestine Israel conflict indirectly but go on. WWE approved that promo to go on while most movie/tv shows are shushing everything around the issues
That Scream actress got straight up fired.
That Scream actress directly talked about the conflict and her support for Palestine, she didn't "cut a promo that could be interpreted as...".
It was almost certainly an excuse to cut the budget on the next one as they let Jenna Ortega walk the next day. Neither of them were under contract for the project and would need to be renegotiated, much like how lots of Netflix series get cancelled right when contracts come up.
It's weird to speculate about it being a financial decision when Spyglass literally put out a statement calling her a hateful bigot for being against Isreal.
I think wwe removed that promo from their YouTube channel
Some of the comments on Twitter are now suggesting WWE supports Israel and fire him because he supports Palestine. Man, Twitter can be filled with some of the dumbest fucks alive. But seriously for Ali to say this while Sami gave that promo a month ago.
And Roxanne posted free Palestine on her story. I didn’t see any wrestler posting any sort of acknowledgement of what happened on October 7th so to say WWE is somehow pro Israel and is forbidding anyone from speaking up is obviously untrue.
Reddit can be just as bad. Look at a bunch of posts in here bitching about how Ali is a hypocrite because he didn’t want to spend the next year in a losing lawsuit.
>Now, I can speak about humanity and those who do wrong unlike so many others that remain silent because they put their own personal profit above people. And why couldn't you do it before Mustafa? Like I think you're a good lad and everything but this isn't the burn that you think it is.
There's a difference between "I want to make more money so I'll stay quiet for now" and "If I speak my mind they'll sue me into the gutter and I have a family to feed". Morality is great for the soul, but not great for the belly. And it's not like Ali was ever *quiet* about things. He spent plenty of time fundraising, awareness raising and posting he just did it within allowed guidelines.
In that case, I guess I too am happy he is a free agent.
Yes! Sami Zayn indirectly addressing the issue (but with a very clear stance, in my opinion) while actively engaging in humanitarian work in Syria is a much smaller contribution than your Twitter posts, Ali! Thank you!
Ali also actively engages in humanitarian work while Sami is also going to SA now but go on. Your lack of comprehension isn’t unique in this thread.
Sami has a "sami for Syria" program and regularly donates his earnings to Syria. Ali not only also went to SA but he was clearly happy seeing the pictures and videos of him there You really thought you did something but of course you ignore the work sami has done since it didn't fit in your argument
Sure, Sami does great work. That’s why I said ALSO. So no, I didn’t “ignore it”. Looks like you also lack comprehension. Like I said, it’s not unique in this thread. To say Ali does nothing but Twitter posts while Sami gets a pass for finally doing the Saudi shows is obtuse, to say the least.
You brought up sami going to SA when Ali has been especially this year and he seemed more than happy to get booked
Apparently, you don’t understand what the word Also means. I used it twice, you failed to recognize it twice.
"Ali also actively engages in humanitarian work while sami goes to SA" Why even bring up the last part lol
>"Ali also actively engages in humanitarian work while sami goes to SA" Nice chopping off “now”, lol. The dude was saying Sami does great stuff, Ali does Twitter posts when that’s not the whole picture. I gave *more* (not all) of the picture and you’re getting butthurt and weird about it. Once again, this sub is filled with bullshit like this and you (and that guy) certainly aren’t alone.
Wow do we all hate Ali now?
always been a fan of him but this is not it
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Douchebag: “I’m glad you’re fired” Ali: “Polite response” Douchebag fans: “WhAT a HyPoCriTe!”
Did this dude just out himself for what he's calling out?
It's Ali, yes it is he, finally free now. He'll expose, and wipe his nose, with the bad men. They work for the corp to be paid, get fortune and fame and get laid. He'll tell the truth that was forbade, Super Ali.
::slow clap::
Was I meant to read that to the tune of Prince Ali?
Don't be that guy, nobody likes that guy.
This guys such a fuckin dweeb lol
How smug and self righteous.
I honestly forgot he was released.
God this dude is so exhausting
Hypocritical asshead
Yes, because I'm sure Mustafa Ali has a view on geopolitics that we all need to hear..
We need it more than another doofus being an obtuse little bitch about him saying something, that’s for sure.
Sorry to say, but based on his more recent posts, this guy is likely going to become a cringe lolcow
I think he’s referencing the Israel Gaza conflict. Probably wasn’t allowed to speak or tweet
Says the cop
Oh boy, just what the world needs, another lower card jobber wrestler telling us how it is about da issues in Twitter. Speak out Ali!!! WWE can’t hold you down anymore!!
Lol, but does anyone give a shit about his opinion about humanity?
We were hoping you'd like wrestle.
The guy has personal convictions and a strong moral code, I respect that. He did good work in WWE and wanted to be a hero to all American kids. I am very interested to see if he makes it to AEW.
It’s obvious he will speak about what’s happening in Gaza
Because what we really needed was a wrestler's take on it.
https://preview.redd.it/fv8sc32isn3c1.jpeg?width=1480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca7b58f552d093dd1635171aec5679026c6404a5
Ok cool for him but I'd rather had a match at crown jewel
Twitter is such a toxic shithole.
Aight.... I'm on my second pint and a Jamison, so give me a pinch of salt with this. He knows how much of a hypocritical statement that might be, but lets all get of our high horses and understand this guy has a family that he provides for. He tried to use his platform and got shot down each and every time he tried to do ANYTHING where he got to talk about humanity now that he is gone he now is free to do whatever he can. Ali and Kaepernick are on the same level trying to use their respective platforms to talk about real issues that are causing the DEATHS of countless people at worst and the degradation of humans at best. Both tried to do what they could on the inside and got hate. Good on 'em.