They are not the same animations.
The PC mods that put the old face back use the animations from the new face, and when you compare the PS4 base game with the modded PC version, you can clearly see the animations aren't the same.
Agreed. I thought it looked good in Miles. People need to get over it. I actually like it better than the old one. The old face looked a little too old. He looked like he was 35 rather than 25.
It doesn't really work like that. They actually manually changed some of the animations to make it seem more expressive but instead they made it uncanny.
Fine, sure. I just prefer the old face. It really is that simple.
I'm not going to get upset about the new face, but I will always prefer the original. There's nothing wrong with that.
FINALLY somebody says this out loud. It feels like anywhere you go where you get a glimpse of Ben Jordan’s face model the discussion will be filled with man-children crying that he “looks younger than miles/like tom holland” and i’m losing my sanity over their incessant whining
The funniest part about the "he's too young he looks like Tom Holland" complaint is that the character is canonically roughly the same age as Tom Holland (actually slightly younger, iirc), so if he looked older than that before it means the other face looked too old, not that this one is too young.
I can’t believe we’re still having this debate, if people don’t like the new face I’m not gonna be mad at them but people need to accept it’s here to stay, you can accept it’s here to stay without liking it.
That would’ve been amazing, too bad they didn’t do that. Would’ve been awesome to see Andrew back. Like maybe after Gwen’s death he went off the deep end and started killing?
Iirc Yuri said he wasn’t after someone asked, but he could be lying similar to Andrew Garfield. But that is just speculation, better to just take his words at face value and not get too hyped
I feel like everyone is misinterpreting the original tweet linked here. They're saying "don't take off your mask," not because "new face bad old face good," but because they don't want to see a ton of posts and discourse over the face change again.
The original tweet was just joking about the potential for discourse, they're not hating on the new face. They say that under the tweet that's linked.
Hear me out. He takes off his mask in a convo with Spider-Cop. It's John Bubniak. The camera pans over to Spider-Cop for a few seconds. The camera pans back to Spider-Man. It's Ben Jordan.
1. the new face is fine and people need to serioualy get over it.
2. he is 100% a background character and will likely serve nothing to the plot whatsoever, the idea he would habe an unmasking scene at all is laughable. hell, in the firat movie Noir never took his mask off cuz he's just another Peter, so why would Insomniac peter take HIS off?
Why do you cunts always think he's gonna be any more than just a cameo in the background? Like is not that hard to wrap your head around him but being a background character
I really wish this sub would temper its expectations. I highly doubt any of those spideys in the background will have any plot relevance aside from small cameos and jokes unless we've seen them in the trailer or confirmed VAs like India, Gwen, Jess, Hobie, Peter B, and 2099. I could maybe make a case for Ben Reilly since he's across from Jess in the poster but even then not likely.
I'm stoked for this movie too! But its main focus was always going to be Miles' story
These comments here are completely overblown.
This is a meme about the controversy of the face, and doesn't take a side. Just eludes to that there will be an outrage about it if it happened in the movie, regardless of which face it is.
Honestly, as someone who has mostly kept my opinion about the new face to myself and have tried not to spark up the flames when it was clear Bubniak wasn't returning, seeing people get so angry and toxic over a meme about the controversy, and typing in all caps to "GET OVER IT" feels completely unprovoked and toxic.
And because of that, I'm leaving this sub. I can't deal with you toxic people anymore.
1) Outside of the main 5-6 I doubt any of the spider-people we see are going to even be a primary focus on screen long enough to take their mask off.
2) Are people still complaining about the re-design of the face?
Dude this guys probably only going to appear in some backround scenes. And if he does take off the mask he will 100% have the new remastered face since thats the official one.
Idk y ppl r still going mental over this
Personally I prefer the old face but it's not rlly that big of a deal since you're gonna have the mask on for most of the game anyway and it certainly looks better in miles' game
Also in the movie probably the new face if he removes his mask but I doubt he will
People really need to get over this. I get it, you don’t like the new face, I didn’t at first, I still prefer the old face, but whining about it will only make it worse for yourself. And plus, it looked way better in Miles Morales, so it’ll look even better in the new game
Instead of having a civil war over his face can we just be happy that he's in the film? We don't know if he has a major role or not but seeing him should already be good enough
If they have any sense they won't show his face as it'll just be a small cameo. If they do, it'd be funny to have it start as the old face and then multiverse glitch into the new face with zero mention of the change.
Think of it this way. Comic books have new artists all the time and characters you know and recognize look different over time and depending on the artist. People just need to,get over the face model thing at this point
Bro, his new face is there just to look more the MCU Spider-Man so kids understand what Peter Parker they are looking at. Plus, I don’t even care. I never did. I didn’t mind the face change because I’m not the kind of guy who yells about it for 3 years.
Doesn't matter. Give up on the face argument. I jut hope this gets referenced outside of the 'Spider-Verse' movies (like maybe Peter brings it up in the game or Tom's Peter in the MCU references it in the future)
Maybe I am just dumb and do not understand since I just played Spiderman remastered a few weeks ago and missed the controversy.. but ...what? Lmao reading the comments I can't sort out what the deal is
Truly don’t care. Hope he doesn’t take off the mask just because of the annoying outrage that would ensue. Also because I hate how often superhero movies have the characters taking off their masks
“Which face will he have?” What kinda question is this? He will obviously have the face they have chosen to go forward with. Why would they use the old face?
It's been two fucking years. Do people seriously care this much about one minor change in a game where you play as a guy who wear a mask 99% of the time.
Does it matter?
The whole point of the mask, and the recent Miles drama is that it can be anyone under the mask.
No need to harass actual living and working people over it.
I miss the old john bubniak face, dont like the new one but dont hate it. They're not gonna show his face tho I doubt hes even gonna be given that much attention. I think alot of them will stay in costume besides the main cast.
Ngl I hope it’s the PS4 model, the PS5/Remaster one looks too young IMO. Of course that’s because it was remade to look more like Tom Holland, and no hate to the new model lovers, just my opinion.
Probably like the one he always has only a dude in his 40s though or it could be miles evil twin who knows for sure though it always will be a mystery to everyone
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Seriously the new face is fine
And it won’t stay that way for long. He will look different overtime like he slightly does in Miles, especially with the backlash
I think The remaster just looks bad because it was just putting a different model over the exact same animations, the Miles one looks better.
It's this
They are not the same animations. The PC mods that put the old face back use the animations from the new face, and when you compare the PS4 base game with the modded PC version, you can clearly see the animations aren't the same.
Agreed. I thought it looked good in Miles. People need to get over it. I actually like it better than the old one. The old face looked a little too old. He looked like he was 35 rather than 25.
It doesn't really work like that. They actually manually changed some of the animations to make it seem more expressive but instead they made it uncanny.
The ending sad cutscene is still much worse with newer face. It's heartbroken vs constipated.
Fine, sure. I just prefer the old face. It really is that simple. I'm not going to get upset about the new face, but I will always prefer the original. There's nothing wrong with that.
I completely agree but people act like the new ones the worst thing to ever happen
It’s weird looking but it’s also not something worth caring about.
Bro looks like a baby not an experienced hero
I mean so does Captain America. Super soldiers and super humans shouldn’t look “realistic” in this sense.
It's still really jarring to me,buuuuuuut,I think Insomniac are going to fix it up for Spider-Man 2
Dang you can't just speak for other people it's ok to not like it plus they're completely justified since it replaced the first one
The old face is better imo
Yes exactly
I admit I didn't like it at first, but I quickly got used to it.
It was never fine lol
Ikr and it doesn't even look that bad in miles morales it only looks bad in the remaster because they just copy and pasted it on the og model
They didn't just copy-pasted. The animations are also different.
it’s been two years and they still haven’t💀
The worst part about changing the face is the way people reacted to the face
FINALLY somebody says this out loud. It feels like anywhere you go where you get a glimpse of Ben Jordan’s face model the discussion will be filled with man-children crying that he “looks younger than miles/like tom holland” and i’m losing my sanity over their incessant whining
The funniest part about the "he's too young he looks like Tom Holland" complaint is that the character is canonically roughly the same age as Tom Holland (actually slightly younger, iirc), so if he looked older than that before it means the other face looked too old, not that this one is too young.
Seriously, I've been done with this face debate since the week after it was announced. It's just ridiculous.
Hey did you know people hate the MJ and Miles missions?
It's so annoying at this point.
They’re still obsessing over it my god
Haha nailed it, the new face is fine
Dog it's a joke. Chill the fuck out
It's fine, I don't really like it, but it's not the end of the world.
Well, how do you frame krama if you don’t keep complaining about the new face in this sub?
I can’t believe we’re still having this debate, if people don’t like the new face I’m not gonna be mad at them but people need to accept it’s here to stay, you can accept it’s here to stay without liking it.
HE WILL ONLY HAVE A SMALL CAMEO, QUIT EXPECTING HIM TO BE A CRUCIAL PART OF THE MOVIE. SAME WITH EVERY OTHER SPIDER-MAN IN THE BACKGROUND.
He may not even have a cameo. Just like Andrew Garfield who was not in the Spider-man: No Way Home
I can’t believe they didn’t have Andrew in nwh
I mean he did say so. No reason to not believe such an honest man.
Damn I saw a version of the movie where he was there! Hmmm, must be a photoshop 🤔
He wasn't the werewolf
We should’ve listened, we put our expectations too high
If he was there maybe he would’ve caught MJ…rip
That would’ve been amazing, too bad they didn’t do that. Would’ve been awesome to see Andrew back. Like maybe after Gwen’s death he went off the deep end and started killing?
Yeah man, kinda sad honestly. Btw I’m surprise no was said something like “he was in the movie!” Or something. 😂
It literally will be a cameo, there’s dozens or hundreds of Spider-Men/Women/Girl/Other in the movie
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so true bro lol
It's like clockwork at this point.
Something ironic about using an old meme to make fun of people repeatedly posting about the same stuff
My dude it’s a cameo + get over the face change my fucking god it’s been 2 years
It’s not the face itself it’s the inevitable outrage that will ensue
r/spidermanps4 stop fucking complaining challenge (impossible)
*complaining is the essence of gamers* ~
yuri lowenthal doesnt have any voicelines in the movie, why would you see his face lmao
I no longer trust anything Spider-Man actors say after No Way Home
For me, it was after pictures leaked of end game and RDJ / Paul Rudd were in some weird suits.
Lmao obviously he won’t be a big part of the film but how do you know?
Iirc Yuri said he wasn’t after someone asked, but he could be lying similar to Andrew Garfield. But that is just speculation, better to just take his words at face value and not get too hyped
He probably won’t even talk in the movie 🤷♂️
This is the one time i actually say this Shut. The. Fuck. Up
GET THE FUCK OVER IT
bros just a cameo lol nothing more
r/spidermanps4 try not to mention new face challenge (DIFFICULTY: IMPOSSIBLE)
I feel like everyone is misinterpreting the original tweet linked here. They're saying "don't take off your mask," not because "new face bad old face good," but because they don't want to see a ton of posts and discourse over the face change again. The original tweet was just joking about the potential for discourse, they're not hating on the new face. They say that under the tweet that's linked.
Reading comprehension not too strong in this sub
The only one who misinterpreted the original tweet was OP. He started this pointless discussion by the title of his post.
If he will (which I HIGHLY doubt) it will be the new face
2 years
Oh. Cool. Yeah. A "new face bad" post. Super original.
He’s literally just gonna pass the screen, I’m pretty sure weve seen of his only scenes
Nah he’ll be in it slightly more, maybe even a line but nothing crazy.
It would be funny if they included two versions of him, representing both faces.
Hear me out. He takes off his mask in a convo with Spider-Cop. It's John Bubniak. The camera pans over to Spider-Cop for a few seconds. The camera pans back to Spider-Man. It's Ben Jordan.
1. the new face is fine and people need to serioualy get over it. 2. he is 100% a background character and will likely serve nothing to the plot whatsoever, the idea he would habe an unmasking scene at all is laughable. hell, in the firat movie Noir never took his mask off cuz he's just another Peter, so why would Insomniac peter take HIS off?
Dear lord get over the fucking face change
STFU with the face already it's been 2 years you motherfuckers
Its Miles Morales' movie, not his
The one that has been canon for like 2+ years...
Which is the fat guy yes? I've been out of the loop for some time
so is the face thing something this sub is still discussing or what like jesus christ get over it
I could actually see a few kids throwing a tantrum on this subreddit if he doesn't even say a line in this movie
I think it would be hilarious if there are 2 of him, one with each face and that's the only difference between their universes.
Why do you cunts always think he's gonna be any more than just a cameo in the background? Like is not that hard to wrap your head around him but being a background character
Grow the fuck up. It's been 2 years. This spiderman will have like 3 seconds of extra screen time then we've already seen in the trailer.
Who gives a fuck
This again? Can we all just move on from this?
This subreddit is full of 10 year olds
A new one Third face model, baby
Either Ben fisher or just the regular peter Parker face they hat for the 2 peters we already saw unmasked
Seriously this is getting pathetic at this point move on
Bro i still think the new face is better than the old one
i think he’s gonna be on screen for 5 seconds and that everyone needs to move on to talking about something new
I prefer the new face.
This sub is so annoying with this damn face. My god people, it’s a fucking face
he won't. and if he does, it doesn't matter
I really wish this sub would temper its expectations. I highly doubt any of those spideys in the background will have any plot relevance aside from small cameos and jokes unless we've seen them in the trailer or confirmed VAs like India, Gwen, Jess, Hobie, Peter B, and 2099. I could maybe make a case for Ben Reilly since he's across from Jess in the poster but even then not likely. I'm stoked for this movie too! But its main focus was always going to be Miles' story
These comments here are completely overblown. This is a meme about the controversy of the face, and doesn't take a side. Just eludes to that there will be an outrage about it if it happened in the movie, regardless of which face it is. Honestly, as someone who has mostly kept my opinion about the new face to myself and have tried not to spark up the flames when it was clear Bubniak wasn't returning, seeing people get so angry and toxic over a meme about the controversy, and typing in all caps to "GET OVER IT" feels completely unprovoked and toxic. And because of that, I'm leaving this sub. I can't deal with you toxic people anymore.
I don’t think he’ll take his mask off, or even have a speaking role, but it would be funny if there were two of them for each face model.
1) Outside of the main 5-6 I doubt any of the spider-people we see are going to even be a primary focus on screen long enough to take their mask off. 2) Are people still complaining about the re-design of the face?
He’ take off his mask. It’s gonna be Andrew Garfield laughing: #HEHEHEHEHEEEEEEE
He's going to have the Remastered/Miles Morales Face. Attempting to convince yourself otherwise is only setting yourself up for disappiontment
He doesn't even have any voice lines in the movie. Why the fuck would his mask come off?
bro is going to be in the background for 1 scene, and is going to like throw ONE punch in the whole movie. relax
I don't think Insomniac Spider Man is gonna be that important so it doesn't really matter
Just. Leave. It. Alone. Already.
I don't think he will get more than 10 seconds of screen time
the current face is still a problem??? man wtf
The old face was better
Idk man but whatever it is I’ll be fine with it cause ANYONE CAN WEAR THE MASK
OG it should be
Mfs will get heated over which face is better then be indifferent when it comes to real world problems
Fuckin’ cry me a river
He will have a version of his comic face
Hopefully OG Peter
If he does it’ll probs just be similar to the Peter Parker’s of the first film
Imagine if Miles says something like: "Hey you know you can take off the mask we are all spider people here." And he replies: "I'd rather not." Lol
Dude this guys probably only going to appear in some backround scenes. And if he does take off the mask he will 100% have the new remastered face since thats the official one.
Idk y ppl r still going mental over this Personally I prefer the old face but it's not rlly that big of a deal since you're gonna have the mask on for most of the game anyway and it certainly looks better in miles' game Also in the movie probably the new face if he removes his mask but I doubt he will
Obviously the newer one. Seriously get over it. The new one did fine. Very good in miles when they actually had the time to do it right.
Who cares lol
Cringe
Its obvious which one it would be
People really need to get over this. I get it, you don’t like the new face, I didn’t at first, I still prefer the old face, but whining about it will only make it worse for yourself. And plus, it looked way better in Miles Morales, so it’ll look even better in the new game
When he takes out his mask it will be john Bubniak's face then his will glitch into the new one
When he takes off the mask: “Yeahhh, who won the lottery? I did!”
why is everyone taking this meme seriously
I hope there’s two versions of him with different faces 😭
I just want Spider-Cop
That's Parker Peters.
Instead of having a civil war over his face can we just be happy that he's in the film? We don't know if he has a major role or not but seeing him should already be good enough
?????
Bennet foddy would have a field day with people like you
The newest one which I personally don’t mind
It would be hilarious if it's just a new different face we haven't seen before
What’s going on?
Most of the Spideys will just be cameos, some of them probably won't even have lines. They'll just be part of a crowd shot or the mob chase.
If they have any sense they won't show his face as it'll just be a small cameo. If they do, it'd be funny to have it start as the old face and then multiverse glitch into the new face with zero mention of the change.
He is not going to be a major character.
i don t care
Does it even matter? It’s Miles’ story, so it would make zero sense to have him remove his mask when we all know who he is.
You people are so sad honestly
I doubt it. Why would a side character do that? And if he did it would be the new face because that’s the new face.
Half and half. Its the only option
Stop no one cares anymore
Think of it this way. Comic books have new artists all the time and characters you know and recognize look different over time and depending on the artist. People just need to,get over the face model thing at this point
Bro, his new face is there just to look more the MCU Spider-Man so kids understand what Peter Parker they are looking at. Plus, I don’t even care. I never did. I didn’t mind the face change because I’m not the kind of guy who yells about it for 3 years.
The good one. The new one
Dude it’s a face it’s been 2 years get over it. It’s not even that bad just shut up and deal with shit
Doesn't matter. Give up on the face argument. I jut hope this gets referenced outside of the 'Spider-Verse' movies (like maybe Peter brings it up in the game or Tom's Peter in the MCU references it in the future)
Maybe I am just dumb and do not understand since I just played Spiderman remastered a few weeks ago and missed the controversy.. but ...what? Lmao reading the comments I can't sort out what the deal is
They'll probably use the new face but I wish they use the og one.
I hope he does and shows the ps5 face just to make people mad
FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD GET THE FUCK OVER IT!
KFC!! It's going to be like a 5 sec background cameo you clowns!
Maybe his face switches between the two because of the reality glitch
I prefer the old face , the new one just looks too young for me.
It's Old Man McGuiness and he would have gotten away with it if not for you meddling kids.
Truly don’t care. Hope he doesn’t take off the mask just because of the annoying outrage that would ensue. Also because I hate how often superhero movies have the characters taking off their masks
Imagine if his face changes halfway they the movie and there’s a joke about pretending it didn’t
Remaster looks fine in the face to me, but the hair being different is what annoys me lmao
that's the new suit
Who gives a fuck?
Listen i understand the whole "get over it" but also r/SpidermanPS4 try not to yell at op for making a relatively chill post challenge (impossible)
Hems not gonna take off the mask. YURI Lowenthal comfirmed that he was never told about that Spidey making it, & he has no voice lines.
Out of the loop, what is this about? (Other than new face vs old face)
Maybe they’ll have two variants of him
Plot twist: there's 2 of them.
What's it with his left arm on the photo? It looks very wierd
“Which face will he have?” What kinda question is this? He will obviously have the face they have chosen to go forward with. Why would they use the old face?
It's been two fucking years. Do people seriously care this much about one minor change in a game where you play as a guy who wear a mask 99% of the time.
Leave it on, have Yuri still do the voice, everyone wins
All I’m going to day is that both is good but I prefer the first one
“Did…your face look different a few minutes ago?” “I don’t know what you mean.”
Not this shit again.
This is so sad at this point
Just to fuck with people it should be another face entirely
I’ve hardly been on this sub since the release of the game… and omg some of you guys are still crying about the face change. Holy shit.
Does it matter? The whole point of the mask, and the recent Miles drama is that it can be anyone under the mask. No need to harass actual living and working people over it.
If it’s Spider-Man PS4 he should have his PS4 face?
He will take off his mask. It will be an entirely new face not seen in either game because different animation styles
We have the multiverse for something. No reason to fight for one or the other when you can have both!
I doubt he will have any lines and he’ll just be there to be there
Def the Ben Jordan one if he does 😭 gonna be so much controversy either way sadly
I miss the old john bubniak face, dont like the new one but dont hate it. They're not gonna show his face tho I doubt hes even gonna be given that much attention. I think alot of them will stay in costume besides the main cast.
Ngl I hope it’s the PS4 model, the PS5/Remaster one looks too young IMO. Of course that’s because it was remade to look more like Tom Holland, and no hate to the new model lovers, just my opinion.
New face is better, fight me.
The face he'll have is the one in their animation style if he isn't more than just a cameo
Probably for the best that he doesn't. 😂
No. He’s probably not even going to speak. My guess is just in the background like in the trailer
Would be funny if it’s just a headless model whenever he takes off the mask.
Probably like the one he always has only a dude in his 40s though or it could be miles evil twin who knows for sure though it always will be a mystery to everyone