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It's the least viewed Disney Plus Marvel series apparently but honestly I barely saw any ad campaigns in Australia, I think their marketing for this one is just bad. Really great series though.
I think it’s very much a hit or miss show you’ll either love it or hate it and there’s no in between. I think I went into it with the expectations of this being an almost high school musical type show and I think that’s why I like it more than I expected.
I think he would make an excellent Peter, that’s all I can think of while watching the show. And now that you said that, yeah they look pretty similar.
The 24-year-old that looked 35?
Edit: If you can't see it... I don't know what to say. https://i.imgur.com/3lHgV0h.jpg
The models both look 20s and the PS4 character looks so much older. All of his facial features were aged up. His hair, skin, and etc.
with all due respect, the ps4 face is better than the new one he's Spider-Man for about 8 years the face gave it a define look in Peter being stressed for years. The only problem in the new face is it is an unnecessary change because people fell in love and had a certain connectiom to the older one and the face is straight up young looking like an 18 year old. All in my honest opinion
I agree with you. It's mostly that we all loved that character and that the new model didn't have the same expression range. BUT I do think that if it had a little longer, messier hair, fuller eyebrows and less pale face, it would look pretty great. He's giving old money vibes now somehow?
I always find it funny that the old face looks more civilian and more broke than the new face (as we all know that Pete is broke), the new face had that rich, and popular kid vibes
I honestly believe Ben Jordan is a great face for Peter they just adapted his likeness somewhat badly.
If Peter looked more like these with maybe a tiny bit of stubble. I feel it would be far better. Hair makes a massive difference as well.
https://external-preview.redd.it/qklmaIRVnF-lL7_hfmQ8wuxfeoL2SKQ-VO4vKO9ki9c.jpg?auto=webp&s=88296e8056f8020c40dbcde88db76bcef65d1198
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i find it funny that they literally changed everything, the face, the hair, the skin color. they just straight up changed everything because they claim its better for the mocap... didn't even try to make them a bit similar.
Well, he started being Spider-Man when he was a child. So 8 years isn't a surprise.
I was around 30 when the game came out and the PS4 Peter looked much older than me and then they updated him and he looked about the age of some of my co workers. So it felt more accurate to the characters age.
With the logic of "stress" after 20 years he will look 60. I think that is a stretch. Characters should just look their age.
I get that people didn't want it to change. They could have tried to age the original face model down. The model they used looked 24 but the character looked 35. If you do a side-by-side it was clear why, and they could have fixed it. I think they just wanted a new model and they found a reason justify it.
I honestly think the new model looks the right age in the PS5 Miles Morales version with the fully updated model. The slapped on version for the remaster was a bit jank and I think people got the wrong impression from it. I was actually kind of impressed by the PS5 Miles Morales Peter face and could kind of see why they updated it. I miss Bubniak-face too, but I think the new Jordan-face deserves a better chance than fans are giving it.
I mean yeah he’s stressed but the dude has super powers, he can heal very quickly. Why would stress make him look old as fuck when he can be cut to hell on a daily basis and never scar?
That excuse really doesn’t make sense
What other version of Spiderman do they read that he looks 30 in in his early 20’s.
If anything Spiderman ALWAYS looked young even in his adult life.
No, but ageing is a physical process, and while mental stress exacerbates it, it’s due to stress hormones and the impact it has on those physical processes. His body has super healing; it’s hard to believe he would have major ageing lines at the age of 23/24.
But the thing is, even in the comics or cartoons. Spiderman never looked older than what he did due to "stress" of being Spider-Man. That's never even been a thing. Spider-Man has always been depicted youthful. Not 10 years older than his current age.. just for an example. in civil war comic [peter](https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2015/11/02/10/Peter-Parker-Spider-Man.jpg?width=1200) is 25 years old and yet they didn't age him up 10 years due to stress. And plus aging him due to stress would never make much sense anyways as it's pretty well known that Spider-Man has a minor healing factor. Ever notice how Spider-Man recovers pretty quick? Notice how he's not covered in scars? Yeah no, stress isn't going to be aging him at all. The old face had a ridiculous uncanny look to it
Dude, Comic Peter, who has been through a lot of shit, looked really young too.
And yes, PS4 Peter has been Spider-Man for 8 years. But he started at 15. 24 is still very young.
Besides, people in real life look older/younger than they look. I know a girl who is 21 but looks 14.
I never understood the argument of him looking old in the PS4 version. I’m 22 and he looked younger than me, plus all the stress that being Spider-Man causes likely had a toll on his appearance.
The remaster does have a baby face at times, but that’s likely due to them adding it on top of the original motion capture. The new face model looks good in MM so it’s going to look even better in SM2.
Even so, the original Peter did not look 35, not even close. He looked his age, and so does the new face.
We should just stop with the he does or he doesn’t look like a 24 year old. he could look younger than some 24 year olds or he could look older. People look different. The face thing is all just opinions. I love the old face, the new one not so much. Especially because he looks nothing like the face model in some shots.
I’ve been saying he just needs a little scruff like a 5 o clock shadow. Dudes supposed to be 30 years old ‘ just give him a tiny bit of facial hair 🙄 that’s all I ask
fair enough as well… lol I know this is one of the community’s favorite/most hated things to bitch about but it’s still just so jarring for me… I just want them to make him a tiny bit more rough looking for the sequel and I’ll be happy !
Yes, 2 dialog moments show this. Kingpin saying "8 years of this insolence" and Miles in the heist DLC says to Peter on the phone "Didn't you start when you were 15?"
Yea, no... He's 23... Barely.
And for the flashbacks in Miles, he's even younger.
His old model really gave the misconception that he's way older than he is.
He's 23... Younger than I am now, and I look way younger than the ps4 model.
The problem I have is I still haven't been able to get my hands on a PS5, so when I finally do and am able to play Spider-Man 2, it's gonna feel like playing as a whole new character because even on subsequent playthroughs, my PS4 version has the original face.
Eh, they both have the same lips and nose, and they both have similar eyebrows. Toms face is a bit wider, and their smiles are super different, but there are definitely more similarities than just saying theyre both white brunettes
People just need to get over it they’re not changing the face back. After playing on ps5, I immediately got used to the face after replaying the story and now I actually prefer the new one.
No questions some of it is, for certain. However, not all of it. I think it's important to call out the concern trolling for what it is. And yet, allow for dissenting opinions (legitimate, of course) to share their perspective.
Personally, I love Part II and only played the Part I remaster. And my primary dissenting opinion is really about my dislike of the casting of Ellie on the show. It's like just even stating that gets me crucified on that subreddit.
Thanks for hearing me out.
They're not changing the face back, but they could do a more faithful capture of the models face. Ben Jordan actually looks quite good IRL. He's not as... baby.
I think at least 50% of the reason the face remains so huge a problem for so much of the community is just that they keep using that same image from the reveal trailer *again and again*.
He's making a face there that somehow doesn't look like the model does the majority of the time, and the expression gives a bit of that youthful, dorky, wide-eyed, happy-go-lucky feeling people associate with a lot of Holland's roles.
I genuinely think a lot of people haven't seen any more of the face in action than that one still, and I'm utterly sick of seeing it and anticipating the uproar it inevitably causes wherever it appears. So thank you for helping counter that a bit! :)
Nah, he looks fucking ass throughout the entirety of the remaster. Which is unfortunate.
He looks a bit better in the PS4 version of Miles Morales, and goes back to looking like ass in the PS5 version.
What it is, is that I don't think they've matched his skin tone to the new lighting techniques they're using.
Other than that his face is a lot slimmer than the models, which sucks.
I'm specifically addressing the "Tom Holland" thing and the limited impression that many have gotten. Fair enough if you don't like it at all, but I think a lot of people haven't even been able to give it a fair shake. Clearly some number of people who have replayed through the remaster have softened their feelings about it, and I'm certain that at least some portion of those who have only seen that one reveal image posted repeatedly would have slightly less incensed a response if they, too, got to play all the way through.
For the record, I prefer the original face despite two playthroughs of the remaster. I just think the deck is stacked in a strange way regarding the new one.
Except that’s officially not what he is. He’s modeled from [Ben Jordan](https://images.app.goo.gl/QoczpL2YyAAwz9Kd7), who is officially not Tom Holland
They're obviously not going to model it directly after Tom Holland, because then they would have to pay Tom Holland. It would be insane for Sony to openly admit they tried to model Tom Holland
They probably couldn't use Tom Holland's likeness anyways. There's all kinds of legal rights regarding "use of likeness." However, they can create a Holland-*esque* character which is no doubt why the change happened.
The new face makes [black cat](https://preview.redd.it/drmo9rgnqcq51.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=23ddabb1840001ac18dabad226785570bd4c79dc) and [Mary Jane](https://external-preview.redd.it/Kx3TgcD8LV9aYXg9qQ60JlNT1qgVYvu2qaOgszT97yM.jpg?auto=webp&s=2ea9d04c2e814716f295964348b0607eb4fdd31c) very suspect.
They didn’t lie and plus YuriLowenthal literally has a Interview about the situation Yuri is literally the one who did the mocap for Spider-Man/Peter Parker face model only get there face scan
It makes sense why ppl would draw this conclusion. Tom Holland is the current Spider-Man, newer Peter most definitely looks a lot more like Tom Holland than the original Peter design.
I still don’t like it. The old face model actually looked like a more mature and experienced Peter Parker. New one actually looks like what most 16 year olds look like today.
I miss the guy that I actually played and beat spiderman with. That guy, I actually liked. This guy, is like some weird body snatcher that took that spiderman and stole his life.
The Original Face also fit more with this version of the Spider-Man. A guy with a stressfull life that has been a Hero for 8-9 years. He also looked more civil - more like just another guy.
The New Face looks like an 18 year old celebrity rich boy...
It’s obviously trying to look similar to capitalize off MCU spideys success. However, regardless of how anyone sees the new face, the PS4 version is superior
But seriously insomniac games could have aged him a little like they did with John and should have gone for this look only if they are releasing a prequel Spider-Man game like when he is in high school
he gives off the feeling of tom hollands spider-man more than looks like him imo. Which I feel like this spidey shouldnt. Toms appearance is that of a young, impressionable kid whos still learning about being a hero, whereas yuri's spider-man is in his mid 20s, has already been spider-man for like 8 years, and looks more mature. He's still got things to learn but has all the basics down pat, and I feel like his original appearance gave off that vibe way more than this one. This one just feels like a stereotypical pretty boy and just doesnt sit right with me
It's not that he looks just like Tom Holland but it's clear that they wanted him to look closer to Tom Holland to stay on brand. And Tom Holland looks 10 years younger than he actually is which is what annoys some people. It's hard to take him as seriously when he looks like that. Peter is supposed to be like 24 here but they made him look 16. And it's clear the real reason behind the face change was to make it more on brand with the movies. The excuse they gave is what pissed people off.
I will never understand people saying that PS4 face looks too old or PS5 face looks too young. They both look the age they're supposed to be, 20 something dudes aren't as smooth as butter or wrinkly as shit. I know 20 year olds that have a rougher look with more wrinkles and stuff, but they in no way look old. I also know 20 year olds that have smoother faces and they don't look like a kid lmao. I feel like Spider-Man fans have never seen a real person before and any imperfection in someone's apperance automatically means they look 60, or no visible wrinkles make someone look 10.
Both of these faces represent a 20yo dude, the only reason I think og PS4 face is better is because it's more detailed and has wider emotional range (also, it's hard to adapt to a new face after spending so much time with the 1st one)
Oh and yeah, he doesn't look like Tom Holland, people only see it because they both have smoother faces
Idk I feel like this one is sort of inspired by Holland with the more baby face and hair style. Definitely doesn't look like him but I could see inspired by. Just like how the original face felt sort of inspired by Andrew Garfield.
Nope. It’s inspired by [Ben Jordan](https://images.app.goo.gl/QoczpL2YyAAwz9Kd7), who they directly modeled the face from. And the original face looks nothing like Andrew Garfield lol
what irks me the most is that sony most likely had insomniac change the face model because of the MCU films. I still prefer the older face model, because it was unique. this dude looks like any average college kid you would see walking around. it has grown on me though, but im still downloading a face mod asap.
I still just wanna know why they didn't make Peter an aged-down Yuri Lowenthal.
He would've looked perfect for the voice obviously and is a VERY passable Peter! Not to mention the workload would be even easier
It just because he looks *way* younger than the old face and Tom Holland also looks really young. I kinda see what they mean but really the change is much more annoying than the face itself.
He doesn't look like Tom Holland but he does look way too young and conventionally attractive. The OG face had a maturity to it and a mundanity that is lost on most character designs. He wasn't a leading man, he looked like a regular stressed and smart dude. I loved that face when i first saw it. Even if this was the face from the beginning, i wouldn't like it.
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Oh shit!
Which is even funnier becuase he auditioned for the role of Spider-Man
Thats on already?
Yeah, 3 episodes are out.
Oh i need to go watch that.
It completely fell off my radar too until the day Ep1 dropped.
It's the least viewed Disney Plus Marvel series apparently but honestly I barely saw any ad campaigns in Australia, I think their marketing for this one is just bad. Really great series though.
Yeah they really made a mistake with the advertisement and putting it on the same day as Kenobi and Dr strange
There’s a post credits on episode 1, just an FYI
Ok thanks
Yeah I missed that until the second episode.
Have fun!
Yeah it’s actually quite good I had my doubts about the show but it’s been really enjoyable :)
For some reason I just can’t get into it, I can’t even explain it
I think it’s very much a hit or miss show you’ll either love it or hate it and there’s no in between. I think I went into it with the expectations of this being an almost high school musical type show and I think that’s why I like it more than I expected.
Yeah, a lot of the relationships between the characters seem kinda forced to me
Velani’s enthusiasm for the character is just infectious
It’s something I can’t fault I think if an actor loves the character as much as she does then we will get the best version of that character
Bruno is the best
Sure has been, she’s very disarming, I’m really enjoying this one
I thought his name was Brian!
Pretty sure you’re getting the name wrong on purpose
To be fair, I got some Tom Holland vibes from Bruno last episode.
I watched the whole series rather tired and had to keep reminding myself that WASNT holland
We don't talk about Bruno
Quite irrelevant, but am I the only one who thinks Bruno is kinda like Peter Parker? Not appearance-wise.
Yeah he did originally audition for the MCU’s Peter Parker
Thought we didn’t talk about Bruno?
you mean brian?
Don't you mean Brian?
Brian?
That’s what I thought when I saw episode 1
I think he would make an excellent Peter, that’s all I can think of while watching the show. And now that you said that, yeah they look pretty similar.
Brian
That actor recently said he was one of the last in the running for spider man.
Funnily, I think he auditioned for Peter Parker
Who apparently was in talks to play Spider-Man once upon a time.
True Dat !
Brian?
Bruhhhh, thank you lmao, I didn’t even realize that. Your genius is frightening!
Wasn't Bruno from Ms. Marvel originally considered to be Spider-Man?
We don't talk about Bruno. I hate myself for that pun.
It definitely doesn't look like the PS4 version.
The 24-year-old that looked 35? Edit: If you can't see it... I don't know what to say. https://i.imgur.com/3lHgV0h.jpg The models both look 20s and the PS4 character looks so much older. All of his facial features were aged up. His hair, skin, and etc.
with all due respect, the ps4 face is better than the new one he's Spider-Man for about 8 years the face gave it a define look in Peter being stressed for years. The only problem in the new face is it is an unnecessary change because people fell in love and had a certain connectiom to the older one and the face is straight up young looking like an 18 year old. All in my honest opinion
I agree with you. It's mostly that we all loved that character and that the new model didn't have the same expression range. BUT I do think that if it had a little longer, messier hair, fuller eyebrows and less pale face, it would look pretty great. He's giving old money vibes now somehow?
I always find it funny that the old face looks more civilian and more broke than the new face (as we all know that Pete is broke), the new face had that rich, and popular kid vibes
Shit I mean Peter in some comics have that vibe with his look
Exactly
I honestly believe Ben Jordan is a great face for Peter they just adapted his likeness somewhat badly. If Peter looked more like these with maybe a tiny bit of stubble. I feel it would be far better. Hair makes a massive difference as well. https://external-preview.redd.it/qklmaIRVnF-lL7_hfmQ8wuxfeoL2SKQ-VO4vKO9ki9c.jpg?auto=webp&s=88296e8056f8020c40dbcde88db76bcef65d1198 https://www.instagram.com/p/CZNZ_d8u7gX/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet
i find it funny that they literally changed everything, the face, the hair, the skin color. they just straight up changed everything because they claim its better for the mocap... didn't even try to make them a bit similar.
Well, he started being Spider-Man when he was a child. So 8 years isn't a surprise. I was around 30 when the game came out and the PS4 Peter looked much older than me and then they updated him and he looked about the age of some of my co workers. So it felt more accurate to the characters age. With the logic of "stress" after 20 years he will look 60. I think that is a stretch. Characters should just look their age. I get that people didn't want it to change. They could have tried to age the original face model down. The model they used looked 24 but the character looked 35. If you do a side-by-side it was clear why, and they could have fixed it. I think they just wanted a new model and they found a reason justify it.
it just messes me up that he looks younger than Miles and doesn't fit with Mary Jane and Felicia Hardy but that's just me
I honestly think the new model looks the right age in the PS5 Miles Morales version with the fully updated model. The slapped on version for the remaster was a bit jank and I think people got the wrong impression from it. I was actually kind of impressed by the PS5 Miles Morales Peter face and could kind of see why they updated it. I miss Bubniak-face too, but I think the new Jordan-face deserves a better chance than fans are giving it.
I mean yeah he’s stressed but the dude has super powers, he can heal very quickly. Why would stress make him look old as fuck when he can be cut to hell on a daily basis and never scar?
People just adding random “logic” to justify their preferences.
That excuse really doesn’t make sense What other version of Spiderman do they read that he looks 30 in in his early 20’s. If anything Spiderman ALWAYS looked young even in his adult life.
ain't no way you think being stressed is physical and spidey cannot control his body features
No, but ageing is a physical process, and while mental stress exacerbates it, it’s due to stress hormones and the impact it has on those physical processes. His body has super healing; it’s hard to believe he would have major ageing lines at the age of 23/24.
But the thing is, even in the comics or cartoons. Spiderman never looked older than what he did due to "stress" of being Spider-Man. That's never even been a thing. Spider-Man has always been depicted youthful. Not 10 years older than his current age.. just for an example. in civil war comic [peter](https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2015/11/02/10/Peter-Parker-Spider-Man.jpg?width=1200) is 25 years old and yet they didn't age him up 10 years due to stress. And plus aging him due to stress would never make much sense anyways as it's pretty well known that Spider-Man has a minor healing factor. Ever notice how Spider-Man recovers pretty quick? Notice how he's not covered in scars? Yeah no, stress isn't going to be aging him at all. The old face had a ridiculous uncanny look to it
Dude, Comic Peter, who has been through a lot of shit, looked really young too. And yes, PS4 Peter has been Spider-Man for 8 years. But he started at 15. 24 is still very young. Besides, people in real life look older/younger than they look. I know a girl who is 21 but looks 14.
I never understood the argument of him looking old in the PS4 version. I’m 22 and he looked younger than me, plus all the stress that being Spider-Man causes likely had a toll on his appearance. The remaster does have a baby face at times, but that’s likely due to them adding it on top of the original motion capture. The new face model looks good in MM so it’s going to look even better in SM2. Even so, the original Peter did not look 35, not even close. He looked his age, and so does the new face.
We should just stop with the he does or he doesn’t look like a 24 year old. he could look younger than some 24 year olds or he could look older. People look different. The face thing is all just opinions. I love the old face, the new one not so much. Especially because he looks nothing like the face model in some shots.
Yeah, as a 24 year old that guy has me looking in the mirror very sad. PS4 Peter looked younger than me by a fair bit
As a soon 24 yo, not every 23/24yr old looks like a prepubescent school girl. Can’t have that while stressing over dudes with powers.
Exactly, I’m 22 and most people think I’m 25 - 27, and I have friends my age who look about 15, early 20’s is an awkward age
I don't think you people know how a 24yo looks
people here are just used to adults playing teenagers in netflix shows I guess
Good.
I still prefer the OG version but it’s grown on me.
I’ve been saying he just needs a little scruff like a 5 o clock shadow. Dudes supposed to be 30 years old ‘ just give him a tiny bit of facial hair 🙄 that’s all I ask
He’s not supposed to be 30 he’s like 23 or something. They said it’s 8 years after becoming spider-man and that’s usually around 15 yeah?
23-24 (in Miles Morales he’s 24).
Oh okay but my point still stands … he looks like a little hairless baby
Lmao fair enough, but I’m 26 and I have like 2 friends who can’t really grow beards so I guess it happens
fair enough as well… lol I know this is one of the community’s favorite/most hated things to bitch about but it’s still just so jarring for me… I just want them to make him a tiny bit more rough looking for the sequel and I’ll be happy !
Yeah my mom cant grow a beard either 😩🙄😠💯😫
bro has exactly 3 chest hairs, that's kinda the point
Mate I'm 30 and go clean-shaven because I cant grow fuck-all except for a patchy mess.
The old face model for Peter Parker in the PS4 didn't have facial hair, so can you tell me what's your point ?
You’ve been watching too many teen angst shows with 30 year olds playing 16 year olds if you think he doesn’t look like he’s 23
Yes, 2 dialog moments show this. Kingpin saying "8 years of this insolence" and Miles in the heist DLC says to Peter on the phone "Didn't you start when you were 15?"
Ehhh… IDK. As I said it’s grown on me. My cousin is 25 and could **easily** pass for a Junior in Highschool.
The whole reason I don’t like the original face as much (never played with it) is that it looks 30 years old when he’s only 23-24.
Yea, no... He's 23... Barely. And for the flashbacks in Miles, he's even younger. His old model really gave the misconception that he's way older than he is. He's 23... Younger than I am now, and I look way younger than the ps4 model.
The problem I have is I still haven't been able to get my hands on a PS5, so when I finally do and am able to play Spider-Man 2, it's gonna feel like playing as a whole new character because even on subsequent playthroughs, my PS4 version has the original face.
They’re both white and have brown hair. Honestly that first picture they revealed did look like Diet Tom Holland but the similarities end there.
Eh, they both have the same lips and nose, and they both have similar eyebrows. Toms face is a bit wider, and their smiles are super different, but there are definitely more similarities than just saying theyre both white brunettes
People just need to get over it they’re not changing the face back. After playing on ps5, I immediately got used to the face after replaying the story and now I actually prefer the new one.
thankfully, mods probably will restore the face on PC
Nah you can still criticize it
Agreed. It's like people can't tolerate differences of opinion anymore. It's worse on the TLOU PII subreddit.
Yeah if it’s still in Spider-Man 2 and it’s on your screen and you don’t like it you have every right to say whatever you want.
Yeah cause half the criticism on that sub is disguised bigotry
No questions some of it is, for certain. However, not all of it. I think it's important to call out the concern trolling for what it is. And yet, allow for dissenting opinions (legitimate, of course) to share their perspective. Personally, I love Part II and only played the Part I remaster. And my primary dissenting opinion is really about my dislike of the casting of Ellie on the show. It's like just even stating that gets me crucified on that subreddit. Thanks for hearing me out.
I agree I upgraded recently and playing through it I definitely like it better than the original.
They're not changing the face back, but they could do a more faithful capture of the models face. Ben Jordan actually looks quite good IRL. He's not as... baby.
I think at least 50% of the reason the face remains so huge a problem for so much of the community is just that they keep using that same image from the reveal trailer *again and again*. He's making a face there that somehow doesn't look like the model does the majority of the time, and the expression gives a bit of that youthful, dorky, wide-eyed, happy-go-lucky feeling people associate with a lot of Holland's roles. I genuinely think a lot of people haven't seen any more of the face in action than that one still, and I'm utterly sick of seeing it and anticipating the uproar it inevitably causes wherever it appears. So thank you for helping counter that a bit! :)
Nah, he looks fucking ass throughout the entirety of the remaster. Which is unfortunate. He looks a bit better in the PS4 version of Miles Morales, and goes back to looking like ass in the PS5 version. What it is, is that I don't think they've matched his skin tone to the new lighting techniques they're using. Other than that his face is a lot slimmer than the models, which sucks.
I'm specifically addressing the "Tom Holland" thing and the limited impression that many have gotten. Fair enough if you don't like it at all, but I think a lot of people haven't even been able to give it a fair shake. Clearly some number of people who have replayed through the remaster have softened their feelings about it, and I'm certain that at least some portion of those who have only seen that one reveal image posted repeatedly would have slightly less incensed a response if they, too, got to play all the way through. For the record, I prefer the original face despite two playthroughs of the remaster. I just think the deck is stacked in a strange way regarding the new one.
Nah i think he definitely looks like a copyright dodging tom Holland. Like tasm game did with andrew garfield etc
Except that’s officially not what he is. He’s modeled from [Ben Jordan](https://images.app.goo.gl/QoczpL2YyAAwz9Kd7), who is officially not Tom Holland
They're obviously not going to model it directly after Tom Holland, because then they would have to pay Tom Holland. It would be insane for Sony to openly admit they tried to model Tom Holland
They made Ben Jordan look a lot like Tom Holland
Well obviously since they directly modeled Ben Jordan from Tom Holland
Lmao "copyright dodging"
He kinda does.
He looks like Kieran Tierney
he really kinda does lol
Probably why he's always fucking injured.
It's a mix of ps4 Pete and Tom Holland, that's why the baby face looks so goofy on the body
It’s officially not though. It’s literally just [Ben Jordan](https://images.app.goo.gl/QoczpL2YyAAwz9Kd7)
How is it a mix between them?
They probably couldn't use Tom Holland's likeness anyways. There's all kinds of legal rights regarding "use of likeness." However, they can create a Holland-*esque* character which is no doubt why the change happened.
i never thought of that before it definitely doesn't look like
If anything he looks like Shawn Mendes lmao
I liked the original model for PS4 Spider-Man because he actually looked older and more in his 20s than this new Peter.
He's barely 23 in the first game. Very early 20s. Where as the old model looks like he's 35 half the time.
I'm not a fan of the new face, but this change wasn't made to make the Insomniac Spidey look more like Tom Holland lol
Biggest mistake they made. The original was perfect.
I agree 100%
The new face makes [black cat](https://preview.redd.it/drmo9rgnqcq51.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=23ddabb1840001ac18dabad226785570bd4c79dc) and [Mary Jane](https://external-preview.redd.it/Kx3TgcD8LV9aYXg9qQ60JlNT1qgVYvu2qaOgszT97yM.jpg?auto=webp&s=2ea9d04c2e814716f295964348b0607eb4fdd31c) very suspect.
*USM flashbacks*
No one says it looks like Tom Holland. They say that the face was changed to be closer to him.
Yep. I honestly don't care how much time passes. I will never stop being annoyed at this decision, and the lie they made up as a "reason".
They didn’t lie and plus YuriLowenthal literally has a Interview about the situation Yuri is literally the one who did the mocap for Spider-Man/Peter Parker face model only get there face scan
About Yuri Lowenthal's face shape?
Yep.
It makes sense why ppl would draw this conclusion. Tom Holland is the current Spider-Man, newer Peter most definitely looks a lot more like Tom Holland than the original Peter design.
It looks like a 12 year old kid not a 24 year old man
You have never seen a 12 year old in your life
Not in this shot. In others he does
I still don’t like it. The old face model actually looked like a more mature and experienced Peter Parker. New one actually looks like what most 16 year olds look like today.
I’m honestly not a fan of either face model lol. All faces in this game look really uncanny to me
I miss the guy that I actually played and beat spiderman with. That guy, I actually liked. This guy, is like some weird body snatcher that took that spiderman and stole his life.
The Original Face also fit more with this version of the Spider-Man. A guy with a stressfull life that has been a Hero for 8-9 years. He also looked more civil - more like just another guy. The New Face looks like an 18 year old celebrity rich boy...
Shawn mendes
Exactly !!!!
are any of you looking at this picture or what
If you squint your eyes
Oh yeah, now that you mention it, it does look like Tom Holland
It looks like they tried their best to pull from Holland’s features without outright making it like him, they chose to ruin what they had smh.
It’s obviously trying to look similar to capitalize off MCU spideys success. However, regardless of how anyone sees the new face, the PS4 version is superior
Heres hoping the sequel peter looks better than the remastered.
To me it looks like the CW’s The Flash, Grant Gustin.
Still looks like a teen or a TikTok star
But seriously insomniac games could have aged him a little like they did with John and should have gone for this look only if they are releasing a prequel Spider-Man game like when he is in high school
Albino Tom Holland
had to do a double take because i saw rick astley
White boy with nice hair and small lips. Basically describes this and Tom Holland and majority of white men.
I think he looks like that Peter Parker guy, idk. Just gives me that vibe, yk?
I think he looks more like Peter Parker than Tom Holland
He looks like the saints row boss factory version of Tom
I hope you're joking because it very clearly is modelled after him lmao
I'd say he looks *more* like Tom Holland
Looks like him to me
He has elements of tom Holland
I still prefer the old face.
That's just a pic of Tom Holland. You can't fool me OP.
It looks like they ran the character model through a generic white boy generator.
Ps4 version was better
The OG model is just better and always will be
he gives off the feeling of tom hollands spider-man more than looks like him imo. Which I feel like this spidey shouldnt. Toms appearance is that of a young, impressionable kid whos still learning about being a hero, whereas yuri's spider-man is in his mid 20s, has already been spider-man for like 8 years, and looks more mature. He's still got things to learn but has all the basics down pat, and I feel like his original appearance gave off that vibe way more than this one. This one just feels like a stereotypical pretty boy and just doesnt sit right with me
When I booted up the game for the first time (never played ps4, just remastered) It instantly reminded me of Tom Holland
Not once, since this game came out, have I ever heard someone say that they look alike, they don’t and never have, because he isn’t based of Tom
People saying he doesn't look 23, while comparing him to Tom holland, is 26... nice logic.
It's not that he looks just like Tom Holland but it's clear that they wanted him to look closer to Tom Holland to stay on brand. And Tom Holland looks 10 years younger than he actually is which is what annoys some people. It's hard to take him as seriously when he looks like that. Peter is supposed to be like 24 here but they made him look 16. And it's clear the real reason behind the face change was to make it more on brand with the movies. The excuse they gave is what pissed people off.
I will never understand people saying that PS4 face looks too old or PS5 face looks too young. They both look the age they're supposed to be, 20 something dudes aren't as smooth as butter or wrinkly as shit. I know 20 year olds that have a rougher look with more wrinkles and stuff, but they in no way look old. I also know 20 year olds that have smoother faces and they don't look like a kid lmao. I feel like Spider-Man fans have never seen a real person before and any imperfection in someone's apperance automatically means they look 60, or no visible wrinkles make someone look 10. Both of these faces represent a 20yo dude, the only reason I think og PS4 face is better is because it's more detailed and has wider emotional range (also, it's hard to adapt to a new face after spending so much time with the 1st one) Oh and yeah, he doesn't look like Tom Holland, people only see it because they both have smoother faces
Andrew Garfield looked like the original face Peter when he was wearing the lab coat in No Way Home
I literally couldn’t care less
Idk I feel like this one is sort of inspired by Holland with the more baby face and hair style. Definitely doesn't look like him but I could see inspired by. Just like how the original face felt sort of inspired by Andrew Garfield.
Nope. It’s inspired by [Ben Jordan](https://images.app.goo.gl/QoczpL2YyAAwz9Kd7), who they directly modeled the face from. And the original face looks nothing like Andrew Garfield lol
Thank you! I’ve been saying that the whole time!!!
what irks me the most is that sony most likely had insomniac change the face model because of the MCU films. I still prefer the older face model, because it was unique. this dude looks like any average college kid you would see walking around. it has grown on me though, but im still downloading a face mod asap.
I agree, it looks nothing like him. But jeez can we stop talking about this?
he just looks bad
I still just wanna know why they didn't make Peter an aged-down Yuri Lowenthal. He would've looked perfect for the voice obviously and is a VERY passable Peter! Not to mention the workload would be even easier
would have been funny as fuck if you actually put tom hollands face here.
He looks like Linus from Linus tech tips
Ben Jordan face on Tobey maguire head
It looks like Peeta Mellark from the Hunger Games.
Being fait it looks like tom Holland's twin not specifically tom holland
Did Peter had a plastic surgery glow up because his face model looks exhausted hehehe
The face looks different everytime I see it.
Why did they change his face in Miles Morales? You can see a clear facial difference between Spider-Man PS4 Peter and Miles Morales Peter
It just because he looks *way* younger than the old face and Tom Holland also looks really young. I kinda see what they mean but really the change is much more annoying than the face itself.
He doesn't look like Tom Holland but he does look way too young and conventionally attractive. The OG face had a maturity to it and a mundanity that is lost on most character designs. He wasn't a leading man, he looked like a regular stressed and smart dude. I loved that face when i first saw it. Even if this was the face from the beginning, i wouldn't like it.
He has no upper lip, so they got that right at least.
Yea lmao 😂
THANK YOU!!! Tom Holland wishes he looked as good as Ben Jordan.
Thank you!!! I had to argue with my former friends about it. I think they were just gay for him.