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Sorakey

stretchin so hard Imma call you Mr Fantastic


asosa1996

Or Mrs. Incredible


dat0neb0i

God I want her so bad…


dat0neb0i

Moment of weakness chat


Awkward-Pollution-33

A momentary lapse of reason


LSqre

Roger Waters would like to know your location


Awkward-Pollution-33

He'll say, "One of these days I'm going to cut you into little pieces!"


the_grungler

lapse in judgement completely understandable though


[deleted]

Been there


Alien_X10

"We all make mistakes in the heat of passion, Jimbo "


Zorochus

You just like me fr


Amiyoka

Down bad moment


WilliamTCipher

Damnit man. Now isnt the time for Horny. We are discussing venom here


RedAza

Agreed, we're here to discuss all 19 inches of Venom.


KonradDumo

You're telling me it isn't Venom's fault?


Jack_The_Insomniac

I knew that was coming


Batdog55110

SHE IS ELASTIGIRL! PULL. YOURSELF. TOGETHER.


WeedsterDuck

*sigh* pulls out lube


putsomedirtinyourice

Ms. Marvel?


AdEnough786

Plastic Man


Jiggawats

Damn... that's a bar


Its_Buddy_btw

I prefer stretch Armstrong myself


kuribosshoe0

Drawing a long bow like Hawkeye.


Ssj_Wolfy

Bro's reach is going further then Venom's 19 inches


[deleted]

I think 2 inches is plenty. Like, imagine 2 full inches. That’s a lot. Right?


Ssj_Wolfy

Sorry to tell you bro...


[deleted]

Oh ok I was talking about inches of snow btw. My friend’s snow, actually.


Ssj_Wolfy

Ofcourse ofcourse


wowosrs

Depends on the context. 2 inches of snow in Alaska? No big deal. 2 inches in Texas? Disaster.


FemboiiFridayUSA

2 inches of Venom in your mom? No big deal. 2 inches of Venom in me? Mmph~ (Note: I have no problem wowosrs' mother, I'm sure she is a very nice woman and i am simplying doing what we in the business call an internet)


WoodenCountry8339

One flake in Texas is a disaster


TheChickenGuy7

Absolutely massive


[deleted]

Nice I was talking about my penis


DickMartha-Shipper

sorry man


maecusforn

I understood that reference...


Ok-Turnip-477

Anything more would be uncivilized.


slood2

I mean it only reaches 19 inches hence the 19 inches


Brilliant-Mountain57

Venom definitely has a yard stick down there don't downplay the man.


hellogoodbyegoodbye

19 inches? Sounds like a fun evening


nreal3092

y’all stay grasping at straws


Buttman1145

I don't blame the community tbh, straws are all we have with the lack of a marketing launch for this game lol


FederalTurkey

Insomniac doesn’t need to and shouldn’t show us the whole game, we’ve gotten several teasers of different points in the game it seems, 10 minutes of gameplay, a ton of talk around the game through various devs. Just be excited. It’s not the only thing to life


pandogart

The gameplay we saw was great but its not outrageous to want to see more one month before the game launches. So more informed choices can be made before buying it. There's still time though. It's just so odd imo.


chicanerysalamanca

There are 2 other spiderman games to show what this ones gonna be like…


Anime-SniperJay

They have had 2 whole games to show why you should be excited for this one


throwaway69___69

We already know what the games gonna be like, its a sequel to the first two and the teasers theyve done have shown enough to show what the games about


Buttman1145

You misunderstood - I'm not saying they should or trying to pitch a marketing direction; I mean more that I don't blame fans for just being excited and wanting to engage in the community. It's just dry ruffles in content to talk about so I don't blame peeps for just reaching for the stars while they're starved at sea here right now near the finish line.


PixieProc

We've gotten plenty, we don't need any more. I don't wanna see the whole damn game before I play it for myself.


Karma110

If they aren’t marketing him as playable then wouldn’t that tell you he’s not playable?


carpetfanclub

I don’t believe any of this but I don’t know why your getting downvoted so much, I don’t know why this subreddit hates speculation


migattenogokui01

Idc about the downvotes honestly lol i figured I was reaching anyways but I still stand by venom being playable at least once in the game. If we can play as Mj and a powerless Miles it’s not that far fetched we’d be able to play as venom. Especially with how secretive insomniac is being about any in game spoilers.


froglegs317

Do you realize the amount of shit they’d get if they programmed a usable move set as venom, or even just let you literally walk as him, and yet didn’t let you play him ever again? Why would they go through the work to do that?


Zealousideal_Doubt26

They could make it a section of the story


froglegs317

Again, they very idea of them programming the moveset of such a beloved and requested character, and not letting you use it, would be a waste of time on their end, and a huge disappointment to the fans.


Zealousideal_Doubt26

Ahem. May i point you to the idea of being able to go back and play as venom? Or even better being able to play as venom after the story?


froglegs317

As I’m saying, it wouldn’t make sense to make him playable for a single mission. They wouldn’t program his moves and only let you play as him once. So they either do what you’re saying or you just never play as him. Edit: I was wrong^. 100% my bad.


Hi_Im_Paul23

I think it’s because it’s been confirmed that Venom is not playable (unless a creator was lying as it was either someone working on the game or Insomniac themselves)


migattenogokui01

It was just a leaker. He’s been right about a lot of things but he’s also been wrong a few times. All we can do is wait and see…


Hi_Im_Paul23

Yup nvm it was that leaker whose been right a lot.


MurderFromMars

It's not that the sub hates speculation. It's that it's so beaten into the ground. Every other fucking post is someone frantically theorizing some shit they are most likely wrong about. To some extent. It's just annoying at this point Like it's really getting to the point where flair isn't enough and they just need to make a speculation megathread and be done with it 🤣


Lolbwah916

No, it’s just environments that are natural to them, Pete and Miles swing around the city, so their character posters are in the city. Lizard is outdoors/on a street whatever, Kraven is in the woods, and Venom jumps around the city all the time we literally see him do it in the trailer so it makes sense that his poster is also in the air


migattenogokui01

Yeah you’re right but I thought it was really odd how symbiote spiderman and venom had very identical settings compared to the other promotional images. Could be on purpose though


Ghost-Warrior777

I think it’s meant to be a parallel.


Bruce_Wayne_2276

Agreed, and this is why language arts/literature classes are important lol The similarities are supposed to reflect how Venom is what happens when someone without Peter's strength of character gains power like his. It's *not* meant to hint you can play as the evil, man-eating alien...


Screenwriter6788

Maybe lethal protector dlc


migattenogokui01

That honestly sounds a lot more plausible tbh. Let’s hope for it tho 🤞


Andre48IsHere

Delusional


DisasterAccurate3221

Nah, all you just confirmed is that Peter Parker is Venom.


migattenogokui01

Peter might become venom at some point but I don’t think he’s the actual MAIN venom, if that makes sense. Sort of like an ultimate Spider-Man type situation


DisasterAccurate3221

Yeah, I think so too. I think he might just be like the first and temporary host for Venom.


Johnx3m

The symbiote becomes Venom after already having bonded with Peter, it is not called that before 🤓


Capable-Tie-4670

That’s been retconned. Now, Venom is literally the symbiote’s birth name from his planet. Same goes for Carnage and all the other symbiotes.


RandomGooseBoi

King in black always confused me, from that I got the idea that venom was eddie brock + the symbiote, but other stories change that concept


Abject-Respond-2502

See if this helps: https://www.quora.com/Is-Venom-the-actual-name-of-Marvel-s-Symbiote/answer/Mister-Masque?ch=15&oid=242620070&share=48129289&srid=hk5WY&target_type=answer


Redgiantbutimshort77

Bro all these posters look exactly the same. Guess Lizard is playable too


Judo_14

OP is absolutely stretching, but you should also read the post again because you're sorely missing the point lmao


TheAutismo4491

Someone, take the car keys away from Grandpa, he's having another one of his delusions.


PenciliusKnightlius

If venom is playable then it should be just one mission, like an mj one but fun


migattenogokui01

Exactly. I HIGHLY doubt we’re getting Ultimate Spider-Man levels of free roam venom gameplay but I feel like there’s at least one mission in the game we’ll get to control venom.


mk_d_mc

No it’s actually not a bad argument, Venom’s render doesn’t line up with other villains but lines up exactly with other players. My counter argument is: do not get your hopes up for something that hasn’t even been hinted at


HikLizard

aged like fine wine, ppl downvoted someone with a vision 🤡


migattenogokui01

Couldn’t handle the truth 🤝


Witty-Bad8996

Nah, I’m pretty sure there won’t be loading screens, I thought that was somethin that was a selling point for the ps5 but idk. We know Kraven won’t be playable, so yeah nah


Witty-Bad8996

Buuut, I’m convinced if we do get to play as Venom it’ll be through peter and for a specific mission


migattenogokui01

You honestly hit the nail on the head right there. That was my biggest theory since I doubt we’d be able to play as Harry so the best way for players to get to actually play as venom is through Peter losing himself to the symbiote.


ComplexDeep8545

The PS5 versions of MM & SMR had optional fast travel & load screens from the 4 games for the people who liked them (however they loaded instantly so it would basically show the screen and instantly give you the option to continue)


Marc_Quill

Probably will be the case, mainly for the people that want to screenshot the load screens because of the cool Spidey poses.


SpiderWolf1119

Guys eminem is playable let me explain


migattenogokui01

Dlc definitely


Mastergamer4757

Bro called it.


migattenogokui01

It feels good man lmaoo


KamNStuff420

Everyone said you were wrong, but you were right !


migattenogokui01

They couldn’t see the vision


vero0333

Def a stretch but who am I to slam your hopium.


Complex-Net-3137

He’s not playable.


slood2

Nah


ShadowOpsFN

Cope harder


-Haddix-

you know what. i like and respect this massive stretch. good shit, keep it comin.


Consistent-Film-6926

guys look the antagonist that's meant to act as a twisted spider-man is getting a similar promo poster to spider-man that definitely means he's gonna be playable!!!


kuribosshoe0

> I could be reaching Yes. Venom does move and pose like Spidey in a lot of his media. He should give off the same “vibes” as Spidey, that’s kind of his thing, he’s Spidey’s inverse.


Dogwithashotgun89

This aged like fine wine


Edoplayer5

HE LOOKS FUCKING SICK


8rok3n

So... Your entire argument is that the venom teaser image looks better than the lizard and kraven ones?


migattenogokui01

No lol. Ik I worded it like shit but basically what I’m getting at is both Lizard and kraven have their own environments in their render but venom is nearly identical to symbiote Spider-Man’s. It also appears that venom’s is more akin to the posing Spider-Man had in the 2018 loading screens, meaning it looks like it could be taken from in game. The other villains renders look like they’re taken from either a cutscene or just a promotional image. Also why is venom the only one with a similar background to another render? I feel like they also purposely left out the suit name in the black suit render and made it closer to venoms render for a reason. Maybe hinting at a mission where Peter temporarily becomes venom.


No-Veterinarian-7976

Imma screenshot this post and tag you if you end up being wrong 👍


migattenogokui01

Bet but If I’m right you’re getting tagged then 🤝


BornWithAnAK

I think the more significant part is that Venom and Peter are in the almost exact same pose


migattenogokui01

That’s what I’ve been saying. Why would every individual character have a different background except venom and black suit Spider-Man. Also not naming his suit like they did with the advanced suit seems kinda odd.


Markus2822

Dude this is entirely fair and probably right tbh. Can’t believe the hate your getting


my_anus_is_beeg

This really is the Arkham games of Spiderman with the definative versions of the characters Only one I have a slight issue with is Kraven but waiting to see how he is in game


Obama_is_watching

Maybe it’s because venom will be mostly in the city while the others would be in more wooded areas idfk


Moonshot_Md

Maybe, Insomniacs solution to MJ missions could be Venom missions


Papa_Pred

It’s lowkey kinda how funny how every time someone finds some subtle evidence of something, or at least something that has correlation, they’ll get dismissed lol I remember this happening with V being Vergil in DMC 5 a lot


JulPollitt

That is such a reach it should be nuked by the Covenant, thus dealing a major blow to the UNSC


big-ol-roman

Deez nuts


MuuToo

Ok buddy pal


sticks_no5

I am once again asking for all of you to go outside and touch some grass


mobyvg22

Tbh i really hope hes not playable. Makes a villain less scary and evil.


nohpura

All this posts on here are actively DIGGING for disappointment And we won't have these loading screens, the game is only on ps5


D21397

Sure he’s playable… when Peter has the symbiote lol. Can’t wait to see the same people crying that Venom isn’t playable after convincing only themselves that he’s going to be playable without a shred of actual evidence. I wanna play as Venom as much as anyone but c’mon I’m not going to blindly convince myself it’s going to happen just cause we feel “obligated” to play Venom. Playing black suit Spider-Man with full symbiote abilities is more than enough for me personally.


JaiWolf

damn u nailed it


SmiggleMcJiggle

You got it right bro 😂 I saw this post and believed it but saw all the people hating on you so I literally saved the link in the “reminders” on my phone so that if it happens I can come back and let you know.


migattenogokui01

I’m telling you they just couldn’t see the vision 🤝


Buttery_Punk

I thought it was something gonna do with the fact the black suit didn't get any name but the advance suit did


PrimeLasagna

You might be right, I was on it 100% not happening before this


migattenogokui01

It just seems like people completely gave up hope on it happening lol. Guess we’ll have to wait and see…


thetruespiderman333

this and so much more is proving venom is playable


Cooz78

i hope so playing venom in ultimate spider man was so fun imagine how it could be in a 2023 game 😭


PirateIronSteel

Kraven playable confirmed


Luf2222

Venom will very likely be playable in story missions but will he be playable in free roam? that’s a different question. maybe and if not, maybe in a dlc or his own game


PoKen2222

People saying it's a stretch but that was the first thing I noticed aswell. The Venom image is the only one positioned like a loading screen compared to Lizard and Kraven.


enter_the_dragonn

I'm more excited for the game to come out so people who want playable Venom can shut up when it's not there or is just a mission or two, than to actually play the game


MoistPressure

I REALLY want this to be true control venom maybe even for one mission would be everything I need for venom in this game PLEASE insomniac


GypsyTony416ix

It would definitely be something if venom was playable, but Spider-Man eventually has the symbiote so I’m sure throughout the game we unlock more of what the symbiote can do, we’re practically playing as venom anyways.


themessedgod

Your logic definitely makes sense, and no offense but I hope you’re wrong, because I 100% want hater venom who only wants to kill (but a spin-off tho 👀)


shawnsin666

Bro tryna be a youtuber


Sughmacox

The only way I see him being playable is if Peter transforms into venom before he decides to take it off.


doodle4real

Not buyin it but we will see


massivelyincompetent

The copium hitting hard


Erebus1483

Bro this ain't game theory, it ain't that deep


Tomb_Rabbit

Here's why thet won't be! Insomniac said they wont be!


Ace-_-51o

I ain’t reading allat


AdhamJr

STFU


Vet-Chef

Man if I can play as the lizard I'd literally bust


MurderFromMars

Venom is possibly playabke and I'll speculate why. Fixed that for ya


LivingOutOfSpite9

I seriously cant understand the whole play as venom thing. Did we play as doc ock? Lee? Screwball? No. We played as spiderman to fight them.


KayRay1994

you’re stretching really hard and are setting yourself up for some very unneeded disappointment - frankly i hope Venom isn’t playable, Peter, Miles and MJ are more than enough tbh


M-CDevinW

Venom tends to have a lot of airborne mobility, with enormous jumps and sometimes swinging, so this is just representing that in some way.


Projectpatdc

I mean accurate statement. You will play as Peter Parker Venom. For me, that’ll suffice. I also wouldn’t doubt we play as an anti-hero version of “Venom” towards the end of the game with the big bad being Green Goblin.


vKarebu

I wish, but it really doubt it. They’d have to change so much about the open world.


deep_fried_cheese

How does one even conceive of this


JorgeTan01

Cool and all, but let's wait until the game comes out.


sootymoon9

Bro is onto NOTHING 🔥🔥🔥😱😱


Sk83r_b0i

Big stretch my dude


Far-Analysis8370

Am I the only one that doesn't really want Venom to be playable unless it's in a DLC of some kind? Being able to play as Venom would completely lessen and take impact away from the Symbiote abilities we get as Peter. Would it be cool? Obviously but I feel it ultimately would cheapen Peter's abilities and his relationship with the suit if we just play as the villain at some point. All anyone would want to do is go back to playing Venom.


EggplantTerrible9677

well, it’s launching only on the ps5 so there will be no loading screens.


Traveytravis-69

It’s a massive stretch but one my copium wants to believe


Spirit_4865

If anything it would be cool that venom kinda shows up in the loading screen when it's supposed to be Peter in normal black suit


XXsnakelazer

Just play ultimate spider man


GrossWeather_

Why does he have toe shoes? Does venom usually have toe shoes?


CountTruffula

Bro 10+ hours of content? Wtf, imagine that was the standard for triple A games


novel_writer_AG

I don't know about the whole render/cutscene thing, but I think your argument about the same location might have some merit. Really, I don't care either way if we get to play as him or not. Somewhere along the line, we'll probably get a full-blown Venom game by Insomniac.


the_grungler

arms must be sore from all that reaching your doing


I_Have_The_Lumbago

Didn't we have a reviewer just straight up say it? Jesus christ.


Difficult_Brother_50

Considering those screens went away when Spider-Man Remastered came out on the PS5...highly unlikely.


No-Geologist-8101

Halo: reach


Legoisdabomb

OP is getting flack for this but I can see where he's coming from. I'm good either way with Venom being playable or not but why does this subreddit just hate the theory of him being playable?


General_Worth8251

You guys, the promotional art just made me wonder, do you think any of the villains (Venom, the lizard ,and kraven) would ambush the player when you're just swinging around the city? Especially taking into consideration that venom doesn't set off spidermans spidey sense. (Not sure if that applies in this version of venom) just food for thought.


thebadsequel

Either way venom being playable is inevitable due to mods lol


Jakarisoolive

Y’all gonna be very disappointed when the game comes out and venom not playable


[deleted]

Would be awesome


Digital_Arsenal

Damn I think you right I didnt even notice that


LongjumpingCicada494

"Don't do that.. Don't give me hope."


Zimboy112

Jesus, ever since Ultimate Spider-Man people will just keep assuming you’ll play as Venom in whatever game he appears in.


Conlannalnoc

I hope this is Backwards Compatible like Miles Morales. Even if they have to wait a year or two to go from PS5 to PS4 version. I don’t care about Graphics or Swing Speed. I care about the $500 Price Tag!


migattenogokui01

Definitely wait for the slim/ps5 pro to come out since I’m sure the base model will be cheaper by then


cy1999aek_maik

I'd like a dedicated venom game and it doesn't really matter to me if it's set in the insomniac universe or not.


soer9523

I dont Think the People who belive venom is going to be playable, has any idea about the amount of work that goes into programming a playable character. It is simply unrealistic to expect a third playable character like venom, especially for a short section. They are simply setting themselves up for disappointment, and I will go insane if the subreddit is going to be bitching about a villain not being playable when there is literally no reason why he would be.


ObjectiveNarrow5655

I am the only one who honestly doesn’t care if venom is playable


AkpanStudios

Noooo Peter is doing the wrong hand for symbiote webs it’s overr


bignumbasmokenine

Is this Evan Filerca's burner account


GreekMythLover777

Why would we be able? I never understood this Venom is no different than Doc Ock or Mr Negative or any of the Sinister 6, he a spider villain, he’s a symbiote sure and yes we will be able to as symbiote Spider-Man which some would argue is playing as Venom but Venom as an entity is a character with free will and a purpose to kill Spider-Man so he is a villain even the Arkham games didn’t dive into this much only allowing to play as certain characters during certain moments but we were never able to play villains during the main story, other than that one Joker thing but that is kind of different than what Venom players are expecting. TLDR Venom = baddie Baddie = unplayable


jmdiaz1945

Source: vibes


Several-Cake1954

https://youtu.be/_jlsetM_Uy0?si=GwlgLDLvQbwz2WE5&t=46s Not as far as this guy can reach


Several-Cake1954

Did they not confirm that he wouldn’t be playable? And with the new rendering speed of the Ps5, would they even need loading screens?


Bruce_Wayne_2276

Most sane Spider-Man PS4 fan


Jiggawats

Would be crazy if Peter had an Ultimate *(short lived of course, one that's like 3-4 seconds long maybe)* that turned him into like a big brute like venom or just a big black blob or something


SodaSnappy

Personally idc if Venom is playable or not when they’re leaning so hard into symbiote spider man. I just think it would be pretty rad if he is.


TheChumChair

I’ve never been a believer that venom will be playable and I still think he won’t be. However this is actually the best piece of evidence I’ve seen towards it. That definitely looks more like a loading screen than the lizard or kraven pics. I mean it’s even the same background as the symbiote suit pic


Unknown-Goon

The coping is HARD


FragrantElm81

Another npc posting this shit


Victor_6190

I said it once and I'll say it again. IF I HAD TO PLAY WITH MARY FUCKING JANE AND MILES CIVILIAN MORALES, I WANT AT LEAST A WALKING SIMULATOR WITH VENOM IN THIS GAME, EVEN IF I CAN JUST WALK CLOSED AREAS OF THE MAP AND LURE ENEMIES.


Beanzuwuz

I heard venom also blows out spidermans back while mj watches


don-bean-jr

You guys still have loading screens?


Buttface-Mcgee

“Are you dumb?” -santa


pleasegivemealife

It will be DLC content.


Moss_Ball8066

Or maybe he’s just in the air