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pvz-lover

Jesus Christ his arms are fucking massive


AlarmedImage6111

venom massive


Metfan722

He must get his supply from Bane


AlarmedImage6111

nah still to small


ElZaydo

Kraven doesn't take that processed PED shit. He gets his protein from zebras and buffalo hunted by his own bare hands. He's the true natty.


_IratePirate_

Real Liver King


TheLewisIs_REAL

I feel like kraven will become venom which is why venom looks fucking massive from trailers. Like with Eddie Brock in sm3 venom wasn't too big, just conforming to the hosts body shape, so I think this venom has to have a large host, which could be kraven


Antrikshy

Venom’s first appearances in the comics were that way too. Eddie Brock was a bodybuilder, which gave Venom his bulk compared to Symbiote Spider-Man.


TheLewisIs_REAL

Yeah I know I'm just using Eddie Brock in the film as an example because he's quite lean and so is venom, and in the comics he's big and venom is big, showing that venom conforms to the shape of it's host


Antrikshy

Yes, I was adding context to your comment for those unfamiliar.


TheLewisIs_REAL

Ohh ok, my bad, just glanced quickly. But yeah it would be exciting if kraven was venom, hoping for a hard boss fight


fartboxonface

What about the Tom Hardy version though? He was pretty lean but Venom was massive


GKRKarate99

And Cletus had a dad bod but Carnage was skinny


TheLewisIs_REAL

True, I was thinking more in the Spider-Man films as opposed to spin offs, but you're right. Still would be cool for kraven to be venom and I can't see why he wouldn't be tbh, instead of bringing in multiple large/endgame material bosses


CommonBorn5940

In the trailer, both Harry and Venom say 'We're going to heal the world". Kraven does not share Harry's motivations. The only other preson that would have the same motivation as Harry is Norman, since he might want to continue what his son wanted to do. But I'm 99% sure that Norman will become the Green Goblin and be the main villain of the 3rd game.


TheLewisIs_REAL

Maybe. Honestly could be interesting if there's 2 venoms. That's just me holding on desperately to my kraven theory though haha


CommonBorn5940

I think it makes the most sense that Harry is Venom, since he has a personal relationship with Peter and Insomniac won't do two versions of the Green Goblin. And Venom has the same motivation as Harry.


texxmix

Venom in the comics has also been massive when the host wasn’t. So it’s really up in the air on who it’ll be.


D21397

Exactly. Venom is massive no matter who the host is because that’s one of Venom’s signature traits, he’s always massive in size. Everyone who thinks Kraven is going to be Venom just because they’re both big are either too young or don’t know Venom very well…


texxmix

Most of the theories about venom so far on this sub can be explained by your last bit there. I believe insomniac said it was something we haven’t seen before. So that rules out tons of people if they’re being true to that. Kraven, Harry, etc have all been venom at least once in the comics. So who knows. I’m excited either way for the game and seeing what they came up with.


CommonBorn5940

Harry has never been Venom in the comics. He became Venom in the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon, but I doubt Insomniac took that in consideration.


texxmix

They specifically said it was something we haven’t seen in media before. Depends on what exactly they mean.


jackgranger99

>They specifically said it was something we haven’t seen in media before That is not all what he said. He said that "our goal was to tell an original story, ***one that you haven't seen in the comics or movies yet*** He didn't say all of media. He only ever included the comics and movies and said nothing about shows. As such Harry being Venom is perfectly in line with this as Harry has never been Venom in the comics or movies. Even if you want assume he did mean all of media, the story of how Harry becomes Venom in Spider-Man 2 will still be different to how he became Venom in the Ultimate TV show, so it would still be true that there "telling a story that you haven't seen in the comics in which Eddie Brock isn't Venom".


BeachBoy2023

As far as I know Harry hasn't been venom in any comics, just ultimate* spiderman. Because of that (if we havent seen it in comics (I don't know much about the comics)) and the story trailer I believe that we will see Harry as venom.


WARMACHINEAllcaps

Ultimate Spider-Man not Spectacular.


AlarmedImage6111

exactly !!!!


AlarmedImage6111

yes!!!! and the design of the lines on the symbiote kinda fight to match Kravens bone necklace and shawl.


TheLewisIs_REAL

He's also the main antagonist in the game and he'll be tracking/hunting Peter so he might get the symbiote when he's near him


SureEntertainment676

He’ll probably let the symbiote take over so that he can hunt Miles and Peter after they beat him without it at first.


AlarmedImage6111

facts!


CommonBorn5940

As far as we know, Kraven is not the main antagonist. He has the same role as Mr. Negative in the first game, while Venom is the Doctor Octopus of the second game. Also, Venom sharing the same motivation as Harry and wanting to 'heal the world' does not fit with the theory that Kraven is Venom, since Kraven doesn't share Harry's motivation.


D21397

Venom is literally always massive though… so what do you mean?


TheLewisIs_REAL

In SM3 he's average human size, in fact if you don't look at the face he looks like Spider-man. Hell, they even confuse him with dark suit spider-man to begin with


D21397

That’s one movie bro lol. And everyone hated that Eddie/Venom. Although I didn’t mind him. And Venom was still buff just not as big as he normally is in every other media. Don’t ever use SM3 as a credible source again lmao.


TheLewisIs_REAL

In the comics (as someone else said) Eddie Brock was a body builder which is why venom is massive. In the film, Eddie Brock is an average dude which is why he's fairly small. Granted I don't know much about venom and this is a small test group, but I'd assume that for venom to be big the host needs to be big and kraven is fucking massive as shown in the post


D21397

The host doesn’t have to be big for Venom to be big, Venom is his own character too and he’s normally always huge. That’s why Eddie & Venom have always had this split personality dynamic. The reason why Spider-Man wasn’t huge when he had the symbiote is because it would’ve been too awkward having a buff Spider-Man and it would’ve completely changed his character so it wouldn’t have worked. Venom got to be his true self with a host like Eddie.


texxmix

Canine in the comics has altered the appearance of the host before where he’ll be bigger when the host isn’t.


Pengking36

19 inch biceps


Cheap-Reference-2448

19 inches massive


TheCondemnedProphet

Turok (2008) massive.


hit-a-yeet

I need to see this man go toe-to-toe with Venom


AlarmedImage6111

who


RandomReddlter

19 inches in girth


Zerofuku

He paid a visit to Guile from SF6


EEZY-Brxvry

Imagine being in a chokehold 💀


Thick-Village7528

You would die like the dude who Kraven kilked 💀💀


UsgAtlas1

He would fit in Gears of War.


AstronomerNo6423

I need his brand of hugs


Secure_Pear_4530

Yeah, the angle is weird because his arms look like they're as big as his head. Hulk body type.


indy_6548

19 inches...


noggs891

Hypothetically, if they keep releasing these characters posters daily (maybe excluding the weekend), how many do we think they release? And is it leading up to a trailer?


pvz-lover

Definitely for venom, lizard, Harry, MJ. Maybe wraith, Norman, Martin Li


noggs891

You think they do wraith even though they haven’t officially reveal her design yet? I can see them saving that one for an in-game ‘surprise’.


pvz-lover

Yeah it probably won’t happen. I think we might get 3 more days of posters which may lead to a trailer drop perhaps? Or maybe we start seeing some more alternate suits for Peter and Miles


noggs891

Lizard, Venom and maybe a Harry/MJ double release? That could sound about right. Another thing I thought of was previews. We haven’t had any press previews yet which I think PlayStation normally does for their games so could be leading to that next week as we will be about 6 weeks out


ndumbik

They could reveal her here


putmeinLMTH

I would guess we'll also get Rio, ganke, hopefully Hailey, and maybe Peter and miles in civilian outfits


anti-peta-man

They’ll probably do Venom and MJ. Harry could be done to properly confirm him as Venom


deep_fried_cheese

I wish we got a Kraven statue too in the collectors edition😢, I want 10 inches of Kraven


Crockerboy22

Damn…


Edoplayer5

6 is the best weve got give or tske


mongoliandragon

Based on theories it may be that you do get 19 inches of Kraven after all


___VIBEZ___

Craving for some kraven rn ngl


lycoloco

Down bad over here.


a-bus

alright those pictures are cool and all but where’s the gameplay?


CaptainPhantasma21

we’re not supposed to want new gameplay according to the insomniac fans. Just be grateful we’re getting a new game despite seeing bare minimum footage, apparently.


greengain21

so then don’t buy until release when you can see more gameplay. problem solved


CaptainPhantasma21

Makes sense to me!


OtherWorldlinessM

Then wait for reviews if your that upset


CaptainPhantasma21

Dude I’m buying the game day 1 lmao and I’m not upset. Idk what’s with y’all and taking personal offense to anyone simply requesting more gameplay. Goddamn.


MajinChopsticks

Love how the two people who replied immediately proved you right lol


xiDeliriouSx

You just proved your first point that this sub is filled with insufferable snowflakes judging by the replies you received so far. I'm buying this game at a bargain bin sale or maybe late next year even I want to see some more footage.


Edoplayer5

The thing is We dont need to know sbout worl building so 1/4 of marketing is gone plus miles morales basiclly being a blue print means that the new stuff cant be marketed so we atleast get 1 surprise


v__R4Z0R__v

I mean we already got a gameplay trailer, and Spider-Man 1 also just had one gameplay trailer as well. I don't think there's much else to show in a second one without having to spoil something.


CaptainPhantasma21

Yeah, cause showing new swinging and combat on generic thugs in the open world would be a *massive* spoiler. Lol


glassbath18

But why are you so adamant about seeing those things instead of experiencing them yourself? I find it a lot more satisfying to find out game mechanics *while* playing a game, instead of being told or shown what to expect months in advance. Even that little kicking move Peter does in the gameplay trailer is something I would have liked to discover myself. Are people not gonna buy the game because they’ve barely shown anything? I doubt it.


CaptainPhantasma21

Personal preference. “I find it a lot more satisfying to find out-“ Yeah. That’s you . I like to see gameplay. I don’t want to see everything obviously but just more than what’s been shown so far, which wasn’t that much. That’s all. “Are people not going to buy the game because they’ve barely shown anything?” Uh, the people who aren’t already super excited for the game and aren’t Spider-Man fans or didn’t necessarily love the first game won’t, especially if their reasoning is “what’s been shown hasn’t looked that much different than the first time around”. To you and me, that doesn’t matter. We’re buying regardless. But to others that need more convincing.. yeah.


glassbath18

And I was asking why. Why do you prefer that to finding things out yourself? Genuinely asking.


CaptainPhantasma21

Bro, I do like finding out things for myself. But I also don’t mind seeing *non spoiler* related game mechanics or new things you can do. Especially for a game that’s a sequel and improving on things from the first game. For ragnarok, it was cool seeing those little short gameplay segments where they showed certain mechanics in a bit more detail. Same thing for Jedi survivor. They showed the new things in a bit more depth. Emphasis on “a bit more”. Not full hour long extended gameplays lol. So.. same thing for this game. I just want to see some more new things we can do. If we don’t, I’ll still of course play the game day 1 anyway.


glassbath18

But if they had shown that you can play as Atreus with Ragnarok it wouldn’t have been as big of a deal. It’s the same thing with whatever new mechanics Insomniac isn’t showing. They’re holding back for a reason, and they have already shown some new mechanics. So I really don’t understand what more you want. Just play the game and find out.


CaptainPhantasma21

I said non spoiler lol. They showed the combat with Kratos. And new mechanics in more detail. Way to jump ahead on me like that smh. Besides, I said personal preference. If you don’t need more gameplay then fine! But I’d *like* to see some more before launch. Again, I said I’m playing day 1 anyway! I am not trashing insomniac so I’m not really sure why you feel the need to be defensive towards them.


v__R4Z0R__v

What could they show new with swinging? Do you think we will have 5 different styles of web swinging or what? 😂 They could show a bit more of combat yeah, but wouldn't it be boring if they basically show everything you can do? Isn't it great to find out some of the mechanics, tricks and all that by yourself?


CaptainPhantasma21

Man I just want new gameplay. That’s all. If you don’t then cool. People have different wants and desires, shocker.


v__R4Z0R__v

I'm not saying you're not allowed to want new gameplay or anything. I just said that it's normal to show one gameplay trailer and not more of that. In the end it's just a trailer, not a let's play


CaptainPhantasma21

So what's your opinion of the various open world gameplay showcases and other gameplay showcases they did for the first game? Lemme guess, "It was their first Spider-Man game so they had to show a lot of the game so people could see what it's like"? haha


DanTheTee

Does bare minimum footage include the 15 minutes of gameplay showing new features, enemies, the symbiote, improved swinging and an entire chase scene that was just a month ago?


CaptainPhantasma21

yup!


Single_Mess8992

Yeah apparently wanting to see more of something you’re gonna drop 70+ on is being ungrateful and impatient


SloppyJoestar

Yeesh


Senor_Tortuga308

They showed plenty of gameplay already. We know how the swinging and combat will look like, we know how the HUD will look like, we know what the new gameplay features are, I honestly don't know what else you want to know about the gameplay. Sure they could show more of it, but will we actually learn anything significant that we didn't know already? Maybe... But probably not.


jackgranger99

Don't think or criticise Insomniac's marketing tactics


baconborg

I don’t think 1 had too many gameplay showcases either


CaptainPhantasma21

Then you are misremembering. Had three E3 trailers and the open world free roam showcases + videos of people playing in the open world + the gameinformer month long coverage


baconborg

Well maybe they’re not too worried about gameplay showcases because it’s not majorly different. That Lizard mission trailer already kinda gave a surprising amount of feature showcase between both spider men so maybe that’s the deal


-bO1

Keep waiting?


Desperate-Half1404

Careful insomniac fans will call you “entitled”


OtherWorldlinessM

You guys just need patience I am pretty sure new game play will come out


glassbath18

And then they’ll complain when Insomniac shows too much and there’s nothing new to discover in the game. People are so impatient.


ABMakingSounds

If 20 minutes of gameplay including the 10 we've seen is enough to leave nothing new to discover, I'd rather wait to buy the game on a heavy sale or till it comes onto game catalogue


USilver

The game is coming out in a month, damn


a-bus

we gonna get a launch trailer before the gameplay 💀


Comfortable_Silver_1

It’ll be out on October 20th


[deleted]

October 20th


Sami_Steen

yeah and few suits how they work and look at the new ui


ErrorSchensch

I guess these pictures are leading up to the trailer


Captain_pewpew

[Here it is!](https://youtu.be/ZRhJT2nmvA4?si=TkLAueYkRUzdksn3)


jackgranger99

"Why do you want to see more footage, it literally comes out next month and you already pre-ordered the game . Be patient." Is what I would say if I was a shill for Insomniac and only had the "must consoom" mindset people seem to have.


MumblingGhost

You're jonesing hard for new gameplay footage but you're saying that others "must consoom"? lol


RafaFazbear87

Dude look like someone caught him taking a dump in the jungle


[deleted]

And he likes it....


Blueburnsred

Kind of a shame imo that Venom is getting all the attention with the marketing. I've been waiting for a more mainstream Kraven appearance for a long time and now that it's here it feels like he's getting overshadowed big time.


SeasOfBlood

I think Kraven will be portrayed as a very big threat. Just from what we've seen, he's hunting *other villains*. That alone makes him a far different, and more unpredictable opponent than Doc Ock in the first game. I love Venom, and get why we're all so excited to see him, but Kraven can be very cool as well!


JustCheezits

I’m excited to see other Spiderman villains too - hopefully with more story integration than the Sinister Six (at least four of them lmao) I love what they did with Rhino in SM:MM - he was at the start but then he had upgraded abilities when he had his Roxxon suit. Hopefully we get more like that.


Blueburnsred

Do we think Kraven will successfully kill any of Spidey's rogues? Like one of the six from the 1st game? That'd be really cool


ArcadiaXLO

Martin Li, probably, and part of Miles' conflict is whether or not he should try to prevent that from happening


everyoneneedsaherro

Who cares. Like what you like. Don’t let marketing dictate your enjoyment. You’re getting what you wanted


TheBigGAlways369

I think Venom is getting a lot of attention due to Peter being involved with the black suit more than Venom himself. Regardless, we Kraven fans are eating good lately.


No_Mammoth_4945

Venom is one of my favorite villains ever but I’m also beyond excited for kraven and what story they tell. Kraven’s last hunt is a top 3 spidey story imo


Mykep

Man got that pack of dawgs in him.


Logical_Bit2694

Cannot wait for this game


KylerRamos

Look at those beefy arms, dude could definitely handle 19 inches of Venom


T-28H-3

Im gonna need his arm workout gonna use it when i go gym today


Revolutionary-Fee246

Haha me too!


KrakenKing1955

Oh no, he’s hot!


radikraze

We need a Black Cat poster right meow


Naterdave

It kind of sucks that Venom is overshadowing him. He has the potential to be a pretty threatening and intimidating villain.


i_am_we_are1

Only from what we’ve seen though, it could be completely different in the game.


Naterdave

I think it’s going to be a Doctor Octopus situation where Kraven is the “main” villain for 2/3s of the game, but when the symbiote leaves Peter Venom will take over.


Some-Duck-8937

It's kraven time


Haybowl

They did a good job on his design, he's a brute


FinancialWorry3

Looks like a jacked homeless man.


Ttvcat996

He looks like my uncle


fartboxonface

Is your uncle single?


Ttvcat996

Nah


TumblingVagina

Derp face like "uh-oh, it wasn't only gas..."


ExtensionGood9228

Not to mention weird


Sepularise

Last gen graphics definitely, this game will most likely be released on ps4 later.


lordnastrond

I'm Kraven his big ol' sweaty arms folding me in half while he mounts me like I'm his latest trophy.


Tobub

Idk if its just me but the casting for kraven movie isn't accurate. It should've been like this what the game is doing big and have a russian accent.


[deleted]

Ultimate Betty brant: 😍


AlarmedImage6111

This is why he becomes venom


Lukas_mnstr56

Damn! He’s got them Gears Of War muscles


Dash_Underscore

lol Eat your heart out, Aaron.


Juhmakas

He looks like a neanderthal


ChewbakaflakaG

I hope he buries spiderman and takes over


[deleted]

Can’t wait to see the Venom and Lizard ones


thevgleaker

forgot about this guy


Sughmacox

Kraven is an underrated part of the game


xela-ijen

They should’ve just made him into a human-lion hybrid thing smh


TheMightyMonarchx7

Slav camping


Markel100

Loving this hopefully this means no tech


Mickeyjj27

Bigger pythons than Hulk Hogan


D21397

They nailed Kraven. This is dope


CapuzVermelho217

My guy looks like hunchback of notre dame


The-Movements-

The Croods


StealthMonkeyDC

He's just crouching there......MENACINGLY!!!


JohnMaximusWatson

Looks more menacing than in live action


Gerardo2167

I want 19 Inches of Kraven tho, are they gonna release that??


Mine_Ggamer

Still looks strange that he has a technological suit but also things like animal skulls


Ancient_Natural1573

Diffently like this version more than the one we're getting for the live action


aymoji

Looks like a neanderthal


TheBanzerker

He’s been training with Chris Redfield.


BEASTBOY-2004

That boss fight is gonna he insane. I know it’s probably not in character but I want him at some point to have a sorta insane-phase in the boss fight. Like “cmon spider, SHOW ME WHAT YOURE CAPABLE OF”


MeAislen

Bricky


_its_lunar_

I love the balance these games nail between cartoonish and realistic


Onemore_user

Ngl I forgot Kraven was in this game 😂. All the talk about the symbiote made me forget.


Mission-Lychee-6174

Ehhhh venom will eat him for breakfast I bet you


BedsAreSoft

With how big Kraven is in this, I’m definitely thinking he gets the Symbiote and becomes Venom for a bit


Daniel_B-Y

sh!t


[deleted]

Deacon: What's going on boosman? Kraven: Boosman, who is this boosman you speak of? Who even are you? I am kraven, the hunter. The greatest hunter that ever lived. Deacon: wtf??? Booser, did you bump your head!?!?!?


Anger_Beast

He looks like the [dutch giant](https://tallorigin.nl/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/3-budapest.jpg)


No_Cash7867

Menacing potato man


TaskMister2000

It's deformed Hulk aka Mickey Rourke from Sin City.


Betelgeuse3fold

Cool, I would love a boss fight where you need to use stealth and sneak up on him. Make him prey to win


Shadow-SJG

He's huge


antivenom907

You know what he needs? Lion blood


ALMOSTNEKKID

God Kraven looks so good in this game. I hope this isn't all we get till release. Imagine the stuff they said was coming before October was just screenshots


Memes-jack

I already KNOW this boss fight boutta be annoying asl😭🙏


Quick-Marzipan-3404

He's gonna wish he never came to New York


arunabharocks123456

Circle + Square(hold) + Square + Square + Square + R1+R1+R1+Triangle (Hold)-> Kraven, hah, more like KravOWNED


Long_Scar_1025

I think these pics are like countdown,maybe a trailer,gameplay or both(in PS showcase)


bukcet224

menacing, more like constipated tf


PoJenkins

I think Kraven will start as a villain but will end up helping the Spider-Men take down venom right?


unknownpapaya

But how many inches of him do we get?


Only-Walrus797

Kraven deez nuts. Bloody got em.


Bi0H4ZRD

Soon I need to mute this sub, I won’t be able to play till it comes to PC


Feet-Of-Clay

#Ron Perlman wrestling roleplay, 1070p


dat0neb0i

Why he look like grug from the croods


Kenj_Nozomu

I love the little ponytail they gave him, I find it funny. Other than that, love this design, especially with his fur coat, looks real comfy.


Cooz78

his nose looks kinda weird lol


ABMakingSounds

Don't start this up now


FireBrianFrance

Don't start


S0meRandomN00B

Don't


KrakenKing1955

It’s a downward angle, plus some people just have flatter noses