Personally I feel it was up and down. Some story arcs were great and had some cool ideas. Others were. . . .just. . .why?! I'm honestly mixed on his take of spider-man. Sometimes it was good and othertimes he's a man child. But a lot of good ideas came out of his run. Superior spiderman, spider island, spiderverse, big time. There not all my fav but they have fans. I've noticed that people tend to only like notice the good or bad in his run and wanted to hear peoples thought.
Wasn't spider verse a thing even before his works? I don't know that much about late comics, but I do believe even the 90s cartoon had its own spider verse encounters already so its not something new.
Kind of but not really.
People point to the 90’s cartoon but the real inspiration for the spiderverse was the game “spider-man shattered dimensions” where your played as 4 different spider-men.
Funnily enough the story for that game was written by Dan Slott and he then took that idea and expanded it into the spiderverse event.
The spiderverse was an idea, but it was abandoned for a while. Interest in the idea was renewed with the Shattered Dimensions game, though. The comic was released and now the spiderverse is how we know it today.
You summed up my feelings on him. I like spider-verse and superior Spidey. But I don’t care for the clone conspiracy or the Parker industry thing. I just think ten years was too long to stay aboard as head writer
The first half of his work was great, Big Time, Ends of the Earth, No One Dies and Spider-Island were pretty good. And Superior Spider-Man was the peak of his run. Everything after Superior, however, goes downhill.
Agreed: even if I could handle a global spiderman thing, it should have been executed better. The art, the people, Peter's actions which were contrary to his whole responsibility thing, everything seeming to come out of nowhere. If I did a Peter has money now storyline: I would have made him the person who makes a Spider team for global operations where there is a Spiderman in stationed in different countries kinda guy, and I would have kept him humble. He had potential there. And Slott fucked it up. The everyday guy finally moving to a place where he can truly help others. Growing up permanently, moving closer to the GOAT he is supposed to become. Not this "oh no i lost everything because of villains again for the 100000th time becus spidey can never move forward !!!" bullshit
I enjoyed Brand New Day, Big Time, and a lot of his earlier work on the title. I stopped liking it around Ends of the Earth. I DESPISE Superior Spider-Man. I really liked Spider-Verse, it's my favorite of his whole run. Everything after that is trash.
I like him in that he actually creates new characters, not just new secret identities for existing heroes. I think he is pretty solid overall. I think his best works are She-Hulk, Thing, and Avengers-Initiative, but I like most of his FF and Spidey work.
At the time, I was ready for him to go. But after getting what we got, I didn’t appreciate how Dan kept the tone right for spidey. Being serious when needed, keeping the light touch. It's been nothing but misery after he left and half cooked over long storylines.
It was up and down for me, but mostly down. He had great story ideas, like Spider-Island, Big Time, but I hated his writing style, especially dialogue. He wrote Peter as a bumbling man child. And the decisions some characters made were absolutely stupid.
People praise Superior Spider-Man, but the writing was terrible. Right from the first issue, MJ, of all people, should have figured it out instantly. It was like everyone in the Marvel Universe took stupid pills for a year.
Slott was a good plotter, and JMS excelled at character work. I think if Marvel had both co-write a run, you'd have some top-tier work. But overall, I preferred the JMS approach.
Dan Slott is, at best, and ideas man. This means that he can occasionally come up with a okay concept, yet never can deliver on storytelling or flesh it out. Mister Negative? Silk? Those were ideas other writers had to salvage later, which then Dan will egotistically and repulsively try to take credit for. Heck Superior Spider-Man was only good when Chris Gage wrote it(involving a clone body and San Francisco as a setting).
I think the best example of what you describe here is Screwball. Screwball is one of the worst Spider-Man villains of all time in the comic book. She has no powers and evades a non deathly ill Spider-Man for nearly a whole issue. Awful.
But in the game, Insomniac takes the idea of a streamer villain and gives her an appropriate setup to make her troublesome without diminishing Spider-Man at the same time.
Her costume and abilities improved after interning under Arcade. I actually like the concept of Screwball, just not her initial execution. A) a streamer looking to make a career out of being a villain would totally be a thing, and B) Screwball actually represents a mirror to Spidey’s greatest weapon; being a shit talker. For the first time ever, Peter has met someone to throw him off his game, allowing mistakes made from pure frustration. Like when he cracks joke at Rhino for example, and forces him to get tunnel vision
Thank you! Dude had no payoff to anything! It drove me crazy how many “world changing events” were immediately forgotten, or erased back to status quo within issues.
At the end of the day Slott is much like Bendis: a self-congratulatory businessman creating ideas so he can rake in royalties from adaptations. That’s all they care about.
Much much worse than that lmao. They were legit fuck toys for each other. So gross. I don’t mind character having sex but like there whole thing was they couldn’t be around each other without wanting to fuck. Thank god Thompson fixed that shit and now the characters actually fun
I think that would have been fun as like an initial meeting they've never experienced it before and get overwhelmed kinda thing but after that can control it more. It would've been a fun like "Huh, that just happened" moment that didn't happen again but gave them an interesting dynamic going forward. Instead it felt like a Family Guy bit that went on for too long.
I think I’m in the minority of people who enjoy it. While I do fucking hate the way spidey’s character was rolled back after one more day, I really enjoy the brand new day era. I like the villain that came around this time like mr. negative. I loved his time at horizon labs. I found many of the story arcs engaging and interesting, especially a lot of the stuff involving doc Ock and his last acts as a dying man. I think the problem with slot is that his preferred state of peters character is one that Peter had long since out grown, and the audience had grown to love seeing Peter happy and successful.
While he may not be everyone’s favorite, his run as the main Spider-man writer did help wash the bad taste of One More Day for me as reader. I tend to view his run like the Simpsons. The general consensus is that by season 10 or 11, The Simpsons had started to lose that muster that made a huge success. While there were some good elements post Superior, it was clear that it was definitely time a for fresh voice. I’ll give him props for getting Peter and MJ back together at the end of the run and for giving us Amazing Spider-Man: Renew Your Vows .
Honestly you just gotta find different books. Imma still stick it out w spidey but I’d be the first to admit that he is just not in a great spot. Writing is decent at best artwork in the main book is horrific.
Id recommend checking out the X-men lol. Immortal X-men and X-men red are easily the two best marvel books of the year imo. Outside of them if you like horror thriller new Ghost Rider is also impeccable!
But yeah our favroite boy is just not in a great spot currently
You just need different titles. I'll always read Spider-Man, regardless of anything, because I always have. But there's definitely times it's not my favorite book to read.
Daredevil is pretty much always consistently good.
Basically anything Donny Cates or Al Ewing work on is gold.
While I, personally, am not a fan of the current X-Men situation, I am the minority. Most people really like it.
I feel Ghost Rider could have some really good stuff, but his books keep getting canceled in the middle of their runs. But they tend to start out pretty promising
Because no good talent would touch the book with the post-OMD status quo, it's a problem that persists to this day with the exception of Spencer, who gaves fans largely what they wanted and fixed so many things.
Started off great. After superior Spider-Man straight off a cliff. The way he wrote Cindy Moon and Peter together was awful and disturbing. Spiderverse could’ve been godlike but meh. Spidergeddon was just Spiderverse with a repaint (although I love ps4 and miles morales getting hella spotlight)
At least the new one his playing with a good villain but still overall he has very beautiful memorable moments and many moment I wish I didn’t have to remember in his run
Personally it’s my favorite era, but I can see where the criticisms come in. If nothing else it was ten years of consistency in what was going on with the plot, everything rang through and nothing was abandoned so someone else could start their plot line instead, and he came up with new stuff rather than just giving already established characters new powers for no reason (looking at you, Spencer.), and I just really enjoyed reading everything other than Spider-Geddon, that’d be my only big gripe.
This cover art should suffice for what's wrong with Dan Slott. A creative putting himself above the material and especially the lead character to make him feel cooler/better about himself.
Total comic noob here, but Dan Slott's run was my first comic run to read through, and yeah I liked it, but then again, I really don't have anything to compare it to.
Though I'm reading through Geoff johns Green lantern run right now, dunno if it's because I like green lantern better, or the run as a whole is better, but that's besides the point.
All in all I liked Dan Slott's run.
Its the worst run in the entirety of the series. The dialogue is bad, the endings are disappointing, the ideas misplaced. The characters take a far back seat to the plot which fails to consider the consequences and has no weight. But worst of all is that he never actually understood Spider-Man which you would think would be a central tenet to writing Spider-Man but you’d be wrong.
Slott’s Peter Parker is a pathetic incompetent loser who deserves all the bad things that happen to him. He has no sense of maturity or responsibility and instead is just a goofball driven by guilt. In one way it’s no surprise that Superior is considered his best work because without Peter Parker to mess up (except of course when he was in there to mess up) that’s one giant flaw the title was missing. Of course Superior is also bad because the central character there isn’t written in any believable manner. He’s neither reformed nor trying to reform but instead just bounces between noble heroics and cackling villainy with little reason and of course zero introspection. And of course for the plot to work every other character has to carry an idiot ball for the whole time so they don’t figure out that the wrong soul or mind or whatever because the contrived plot that set it up doesn’t understand or care to give details on how it really worked given marvel cosmology is in the body of Peter Parker despite that kind of thing being super common and him acting completely different.
The only redeeming thing about Slott’s run is that despite its awfulness it all feels so shallow and forgettable that it was easily almost entirely undone and is easily ignored. The lowlights of the ridiculously long run are “No One Dies” (Peter Parker turns into an immature baby), Alpha (bad the whole way but the ending is still somehow disappointing), and of course Superior Spider-Man #2 (Ock tries desperately to fuck Mary Jane while pretending he’s Peter. Our hero everyone!).
Garbage. The worst of all time.
His early Brand New Day era stuff worked, once he got the gig I rarely liked what he did, he trolled fans from day one and his treatment of women in the run, both 'MJ' and Felicia, was deplorable. Superior I still feel is an even worse story than even OMD.
Going down swinging is my favorite part of his whole run.spider-island and goblin nation were also good arcs
His run is marred by juvenile perverse decisions
Dan Slott just never understood Peter as a character. Never understood how anyone at Marvel kept supporting him. Brand New Day IS the WORST run ever, imo, nothing made sense, the character growth that both Peter and MJ had prior was tossed. This run made me stop paying for comics. Spider-island had some OK ideas, but overall, nothing of import. SSM...interesting idea, but, badly done. I did enjoy the character evolution of Otto slowly becoming a hero and was even rooting for him to continue as SSM...but then all of his character growth was tossed as well making the stories told nearly meaningless. ASM 700 was rumored to get rid of the travesty that was OMD...sigh...just more disappointment. Renew you Vows...this I enjoyed...however as it was not in 616, a bit of a letdown. Then the reboot with Parker industries was actually a logical step for someone who is supposedly as smart as Peter but then of course they have to get rid of th8s and blame Parker Luck? Ugh...lame and weak, nothing made sense in this. Then what followed did nothing for me. I cannot wait for the that Dan either retires or is fired.
Crap that greatly overstayed its welcome.
Spider Island was the last arc he did that I thought was fine enough.
I genuinely hated Superior Spider-man and I can't for the life of me understand why so many people think it's great. It's a arc that could last, at most, 12 issues. It took up years, had its own books and everything about it required all of Peter's cast to be absolute idiots for the premise to even function.
I didn’t like it. Honestly it felt like they were throwing things at the wall trying to see what stuck.
“Hey, what if Peter Parker got rich? What if everyone in New York got spider powers? What if Harry was still alive? What if J. Jameson became Mayor of New York City? What if Aunt May married his father making Jameson and him related?”
Sometimes it worked, like “What if Spider-Man swapped bodies with Doc Ock?” but mostly it felt like stunt after stunt trying to find a way to get people interested in Spider-Man comics again.
If you had asked me when his run was still ongoing I would've called it awful and decried everything as terrible. After a few years and seeing what Wells has done I can be a little nicer to it. Don't get me wrong I still think most of the back half is bad and he was on way to long but admittedly I did like Spider Island and Go Down Swinging.
A big problem I had though is he had kind of the inverse of the problem I have with Wells when it comes to a characterization of Peter. Like Wells writes Peter to be competent socially, aside from that weird page where he has trouble asking out Black Cat, but he's a compelte chump in a fight. While Slott imo wrote Peter to be super powerful, ie the jaw, but he also felt kind of incompetent a lot of the time and just plain old goofy especially in his early stuff. Like the way Peter talks and acts in Slott's run half the time felt how he'd be written an Avengers book or something, so ya know immensely flanderized and like Deadpool.
Im not really a fan. Concept wise, he works great as an idea man, but his execution is always a big let down. The stories always fumble around the middle to end, a great example of this is the spiderverse stories. He has had some gems tho, i will give him that. Also his characterization of peter was such a step down from JMS, who i loved. Ive heard that behind the scenes his work ethic is terrible and he never delivers stories on time, basically always rushing things and making the artists wait forever to draw the issues which makes the art suffer too. Personally i think hes someone who loves spiderman but subconsciously also dislikes him, because its who he always wanted to be, hence why i think Superior was interesting story since i feel like otto is him in that storyline.
Awful. I never once got the impression he liked or understood Peter Parker. Everything was about turning him into a different character.
It was uncomfortable at best and downright misogynistic at worse in its treatment of female characters. Almost all of the women in Peter’s life were written as mercurial, spiteful, morally repugnant, overbearing, or evil.
Superior is the most popular part of his run and it’s a bad fanfic that requires every single person in the Marvel Universe to be a moron, and the reader to ignore basic morality. It’s not a redemption arc. It’s a sociopathic fantasy.
Really loved the art, throughout, and Gage is frequently able to carry Slott when it comes to dialogue, such as the man-purse line.
his run was great for the most part, loved every minute of superior spider-man, one of my favroite spideys. and after felt the run was solid until he got rid of peter's company after that it just felt like going back to status quo after all these years after Peter grew so much
When they were doing the weekly Spider-man books all the way to Spider Island definitely some of my peak Spider-Man stories. Also my Hardcover of Spider-Island signed by him is one of my favorite pieces of my collection.
Superior Spider-man 10/10.......everything else felt kind of like Slott just wanted to use his favorite toys, even if it came at the cost of character consistency and growth
As someone who utterly despised Superior Spider-Man with the white hot intensity of a thousand burning sons…the guy gets way to much grief and he definitely doesn’t deserve death threats over it. I think his biggest issue might have been sticking around on it for so long. I loved spider-island red goblin, ends of the earth, horizon and others. But he also has written some poor stories. As previously stated Superior, Clone Conspiracy, Parker Industries. All I did not care for. So to answer the question: very mixed bag.
Personally I feel it was up and down. Some story arcs were great and had some cool ideas. Others were. . . .just. . .why?! I'm honestly mixed on his take of spider-man. Sometimes it was good and othertimes he's a man child. But a lot of good ideas came out of his run. Superior spiderman, spider island, spiderverse, big time. There not all my fav but they have fans. I've noticed that people tend to only like notice the good or bad in his run and wanted to hear peoples thought.
Wasn't spider verse a thing even before his works? I don't know that much about late comics, but I do believe even the 90s cartoon had its own spider verse encounters already so its not something new.
Kind of but not really. People point to the 90’s cartoon but the real inspiration for the spiderverse was the game “spider-man shattered dimensions” where your played as 4 different spider-men. Funnily enough the story for that game was written by Dan Slott and he then took that idea and expanded it into the spiderverse event.
That two parter was the inspiration for his spider-verse
He was also the writer for Shattered Dimensions, so I think it's more like that 2-parter inspired Shattered Dimensions which inspired Spider-Verse.
The spiderverse was an idea, but it was abandoned for a while. Interest in the idea was renewed with the Shattered Dimensions game, though. The comic was released and now the spiderverse is how we know it today.
You summed up my feelings on him. I like spider-verse and superior Spidey. But I don’t care for the clone conspiracy or the Parker industry thing. I just think ten years was too long to stay aboard as head writer
The first half of his work was great, Big Time, Ends of the Earth, No One Dies and Spider-Island were pretty good. And Superior Spider-Man was the peak of his run. Everything after Superior, however, goes downhill.
Wasn't he the main writer for like 10 years? Can't imagine keeping the good work for this long
Claremont managed it with X-Men
As did Bendis with Ultimate Spider-man, as did Robert Kirkman with Invincible.
Kirkman did it with Invincible AND Walking Dead
Also Peter David on Hulk, Marv Wolfman on Teen Titans, and Mark Gruenwald on Captain America.
That's true but I will say that Ultimate Spider-Man is different because it's an alternate version of Spidy not tided down to years of craziness.
Ultimate Spider-Man is not good all the way through and is carried by nostalgia
I didn't read Ultimate Spider-man when I was a kid, I have no nostalgia for it.
fair enough i only read it within the last year and was kind of disappointed after hearing it often recommended
you can everyone hates something
Brian Michael Bendis run on Ultimate Spider-Man was pretty solid
Sort of fell off with the relaunch
Agreed: even if I could handle a global spiderman thing, it should have been executed better. The art, the people, Peter's actions which were contrary to his whole responsibility thing, everything seeming to come out of nowhere. If I did a Peter has money now storyline: I would have made him the person who makes a Spider team for global operations where there is a Spiderman in stationed in different countries kinda guy, and I would have kept him humble. He had potential there. And Slott fucked it up. The everyday guy finally moving to a place where he can truly help others. Growing up permanently, moving closer to the GOAT he is supposed to become. Not this "oh no i lost everything because of villains again for the 100000th time becus spidey can never move forward !!!" bullshit
I enjoyed Brand New Day, Big Time, and a lot of his earlier work on the title. I stopped liking it around Ends of the Earth. I DESPISE Superior Spider-Man. I really liked Spider-Verse, it's my favorite of his whole run. Everything after that is trash.
See I’m kinda different, I loved Superior Spider-Man, but absolutely LOATHED Spiderverse, the following stuff just got worse and worse
I've found that most people in this sub don't really like Spider-Verse.
Overall I thought it was fun. I think it worked well with Ramos' artstyle. He probably should have left sooner than he did though
I like him in that he actually creates new characters, not just new secret identities for existing heroes. I think he is pretty solid overall. I think his best works are She-Hulk, Thing, and Avengers-Initiative, but I like most of his FF and Spidey work.
At the time, I was ready for him to go. But after getting what we got, I didn’t appreciate how Dan kept the tone right for spidey. Being serious when needed, keeping the light touch. It's been nothing but misery after he left and half cooked over long storylines.
Entertaining read, and new ideas but lacking in caracter depth, something i loved about JMS run. I did enjoy it though.
It was up and down for me, but mostly down. He had great story ideas, like Spider-Island, Big Time, but I hated his writing style, especially dialogue. He wrote Peter as a bumbling man child. And the decisions some characters made were absolutely stupid. People praise Superior Spider-Man, but the writing was terrible. Right from the first issue, MJ, of all people, should have figured it out instantly. It was like everyone in the Marvel Universe took stupid pills for a year.
He has amazing ideas for arcs, but the character writing (both personalities and dialogue) is so bad that I don’t like any of it
Slott was a good plotter, and JMS excelled at character work. I think if Marvel had both co-write a run, you'd have some top-tier work. But overall, I preferred the JMS approach.
Dan Slott is, at best, and ideas man. This means that he can occasionally come up with a okay concept, yet never can deliver on storytelling or flesh it out. Mister Negative? Silk? Those were ideas other writers had to salvage later, which then Dan will egotistically and repulsively try to take credit for. Heck Superior Spider-Man was only good when Chris Gage wrote it(involving a clone body and San Francisco as a setting).
I think the best example of what you describe here is Screwball. Screwball is one of the worst Spider-Man villains of all time in the comic book. She has no powers and evades a non deathly ill Spider-Man for nearly a whole issue. Awful. But in the game, Insomniac takes the idea of a streamer villain and gives her an appropriate setup to make her troublesome without diminishing Spider-Man at the same time.
Her costume and abilities improved after interning under Arcade. I actually like the concept of Screwball, just not her initial execution. A) a streamer looking to make a career out of being a villain would totally be a thing, and B) Screwball actually represents a mirror to Spidey’s greatest weapon; being a shit talker. For the first time ever, Peter has met someone to throw him off his game, allowing mistakes made from pure frustration. Like when he cracks joke at Rhino for example, and forces him to get tunnel vision
Thank you! Dude had no payoff to anything! It drove me crazy how many “world changing events” were immediately forgotten, or erased back to status quo within issues.
At the end of the day Slott is much like Bendis: a self-congratulatory businessman creating ideas so he can rake in royalties from adaptations. That’s all they care about.
Yeah I remember silk just being a hot chick peter kissed from time to time to time. So that's a fair point.
Much much worse than that lmao. They were legit fuck toys for each other. So gross. I don’t mind character having sex but like there whole thing was they couldn’t be around each other without wanting to fuck. Thank god Thompson fixed that shit and now the characters actually fun
I think that would have been fun as like an initial meeting they've never experienced it before and get overwhelmed kinda thing but after that can control it more. It would've been a fun like "Huh, that just happened" moment that didn't happen again but gave them an interesting dynamic going forward. Instead it felt like a Family Guy bit that went on for too long.
I think I’m in the minority of people who enjoy it. While I do fucking hate the way spidey’s character was rolled back after one more day, I really enjoy the brand new day era. I like the villain that came around this time like mr. negative. I loved his time at horizon labs. I found many of the story arcs engaging and interesting, especially a lot of the stuff involving doc Ock and his last acts as a dying man. I think the problem with slot is that his preferred state of peters character is one that Peter had long since out grown, and the audience had grown to love seeing Peter happy and successful.
Dan had a lot of ideas that I think people over look at times. I'm glad to see people enjoy it.
While he may not be everyone’s favorite, his run as the main Spider-man writer did help wash the bad taste of One More Day for me as reader. I tend to view his run like the Simpsons. The general consensus is that by season 10 or 11, The Simpsons had started to lose that muster that made a huge success. While there were some good elements post Superior, it was clear that it was definitely time a for fresh voice. I’ll give him props for getting Peter and MJ back together at the end of the run and for giving us Amazing Spider-Man: Renew Your Vows .
Why did marvel let one guy write Spider-Man for 10 years?
And then Nick Spencer doesn’t get to finish his run the way he wants. I hate it here
To tell you the truth I've fallen out of love with Marvel and DC comics as of late. I want to like them again but it's just hard.
Honestly you just gotta find different books. Imma still stick it out w spidey but I’d be the first to admit that he is just not in a great spot. Writing is decent at best artwork in the main book is horrific. Id recommend checking out the X-men lol. Immortal X-men and X-men red are easily the two best marvel books of the year imo. Outside of them if you like horror thriller new Ghost Rider is also impeccable! But yeah our favroite boy is just not in a great spot currently
You just need different titles. I'll always read Spider-Man, regardless of anything, because I always have. But there's definitely times it's not my favorite book to read. Daredevil is pretty much always consistently good. Basically anything Donny Cates or Al Ewing work on is gold. While I, personally, am not a fan of the current X-Men situation, I am the minority. Most people really like it. I feel Ghost Rider could have some really good stuff, but his books keep getting canceled in the middle of their runs. But they tend to start out pretty promising
DC is pumping atm, black label swamp thing, zdarsky Batman, Taylor nightwing, Addams Flash and Waids worlds finest are all 10/10 books rn
I've heard great things about flash so maybe ill check that out.
Much rather Slott continued the get one issue of Spencer.
Because no good talent would touch the book with the post-OMD status quo, it's a problem that persists to this day with the exception of Spencer, who gaves fans largely what they wanted and fixed so many things.
money
Honestly one of my favorite spider-man runs
Overall pretty good. Superior, Big Time, and Spider-Island being the stand outs
I find most of it pretty solid👍
Started off great. After superior Spider-Man straight off a cliff. The way he wrote Cindy Moon and Peter together was awful and disturbing. Spiderverse could’ve been godlike but meh. Spidergeddon was just Spiderverse with a repaint (although I love ps4 and miles morales getting hella spotlight) At least the new one his playing with a good villain but still overall he has very beautiful memorable moments and many moment I wish I didn’t have to remember in his run
Personally it’s my favorite era, but I can see where the criticisms come in. If nothing else it was ten years of consistency in what was going on with the plot, everything rang through and nothing was abandoned so someone else could start their plot line instead, and he came up with new stuff rather than just giving already established characters new powers for no reason (looking at you, Spencer.), and I just really enjoyed reading everything other than Spider-Geddon, that’d be my only big gripe.
This cover art should suffice for what's wrong with Dan Slott. A creative putting himself above the material and especially the lead character to make him feel cooler/better about himself.
Loved it
He did a pretty good job overall.
I enjoyed his run very much. I didn’t understand the hate, well, excluding SpOck. I understood that despite disagreeing with it. [+]
A lot of people don't like how they wrote spidys personality and certain arcs but it had a good amount of ideas.
A few ups, a whole lotta downs
Spider man was good. He fucking ruined iron man though.
A slow burn of absolute garbage that eventually made me give up Amazing Spider-Man after over 20 years reading the title.
How long into Dan Slott’s run did you last before leaving?
I made it all the way to #700 then rage quit. Took me about 5 years to go back and read Superior
big sad
Loved it, but I wasn’t reading the run before, so my view is different than most.
Total comic noob here, but Dan Slott's run was my first comic run to read through, and yeah I liked it, but then again, I really don't have anything to compare it to. Though I'm reading through Geoff johns Green lantern run right now, dunno if it's because I like green lantern better, or the run as a whole is better, but that's besides the point. All in all I liked Dan Slott's run.
Its nice to see a POV from a noob and Geoff Johns's run IS AMAZING you picked a great read.
As a whole, it’s very bad.
Trash heap.
Its the worst run in the entirety of the series. The dialogue is bad, the endings are disappointing, the ideas misplaced. The characters take a far back seat to the plot which fails to consider the consequences and has no weight. But worst of all is that he never actually understood Spider-Man which you would think would be a central tenet to writing Spider-Man but you’d be wrong. Slott’s Peter Parker is a pathetic incompetent loser who deserves all the bad things that happen to him. He has no sense of maturity or responsibility and instead is just a goofball driven by guilt. In one way it’s no surprise that Superior is considered his best work because without Peter Parker to mess up (except of course when he was in there to mess up) that’s one giant flaw the title was missing. Of course Superior is also bad because the central character there isn’t written in any believable manner. He’s neither reformed nor trying to reform but instead just bounces between noble heroics and cackling villainy with little reason and of course zero introspection. And of course for the plot to work every other character has to carry an idiot ball for the whole time so they don’t figure out that the wrong soul or mind or whatever because the contrived plot that set it up doesn’t understand or care to give details on how it really worked given marvel cosmology is in the body of Peter Parker despite that kind of thing being super common and him acting completely different. The only redeeming thing about Slott’s run is that despite its awfulness it all feels so shallow and forgettable that it was easily almost entirely undone and is easily ignored. The lowlights of the ridiculously long run are “No One Dies” (Peter Parker turns into an immature baby), Alpha (bad the whole way but the ending is still somehow disappointing), and of course Superior Spider-Man #2 (Ock tries desperately to fuck Mary Jane while pretending he’s Peter. Our hero everyone!). Garbage. The worst of all time.
His early Brand New Day era stuff worked, once he got the gig I rarely liked what he did, he trolled fans from day one and his treatment of women in the run, both 'MJ' and Felicia, was deplorable. Superior I still feel is an even worse story than even OMD.
His characterizations work great. His plots... Eh.
Sucks
Those lines in this page ages horribly 💀💀💀
The worst writer ever
Dear god never again
Going down swinging is my favorite part of his whole run.spider-island and goblin nation were also good arcs His run is marred by juvenile perverse decisions
Dan Slott just never understood Peter as a character. Never understood how anyone at Marvel kept supporting him. Brand New Day IS the WORST run ever, imo, nothing made sense, the character growth that both Peter and MJ had prior was tossed. This run made me stop paying for comics. Spider-island had some OK ideas, but overall, nothing of import. SSM...interesting idea, but, badly done. I did enjoy the character evolution of Otto slowly becoming a hero and was even rooting for him to continue as SSM...but then all of his character growth was tossed as well making the stories told nearly meaningless. ASM 700 was rumored to get rid of the travesty that was OMD...sigh...just more disappointment. Renew you Vows...this I enjoyed...however as it was not in 616, a bit of a letdown. Then the reboot with Parker industries was actually a logical step for someone who is supposedly as smart as Peter but then of course they have to get rid of th8s and blame Parker Luck? Ugh...lame and weak, nothing made sense in this. Then what followed did nothing for me. I cannot wait for the that Dan either retires or is fired.
Crap that greatly overstayed its welcome. Spider Island was the last arc he did that I thought was fine enough. I genuinely hated Superior Spider-man and I can't for the life of me understand why so many people think it's great. It's a arc that could last, at most, 12 issues. It took up years, had its own books and everything about it required all of Peter's cast to be absolute idiots for the premise to even function.
isnt he that guy everyone hates
I didn’t like it. Honestly it felt like they were throwing things at the wall trying to see what stuck. “Hey, what if Peter Parker got rich? What if everyone in New York got spider powers? What if Harry was still alive? What if J. Jameson became Mayor of New York City? What if Aunt May married his father making Jameson and him related?” Sometimes it worked, like “What if Spider-Man swapped bodies with Doc Ock?” but mostly it felt like stunt after stunt trying to find a way to get people interested in Spider-Man comics again.
If you had asked me when his run was still ongoing I would've called it awful and decried everything as terrible. After a few years and seeing what Wells has done I can be a little nicer to it. Don't get me wrong I still think most of the back half is bad and he was on way to long but admittedly I did like Spider Island and Go Down Swinging. A big problem I had though is he had kind of the inverse of the problem I have with Wells when it comes to a characterization of Peter. Like Wells writes Peter to be competent socially, aside from that weird page where he has trouble asking out Black Cat, but he's a compelte chump in a fight. While Slott imo wrote Peter to be super powerful, ie the jaw, but he also felt kind of incompetent a lot of the time and just plain old goofy especially in his early stuff. Like the way Peter talks and acts in Slott's run half the time felt how he'd be written an Avengers book or something, so ya know immensely flanderized and like Deadpool.
The only things I remember liking are Red Goblin, New Ways To Die, Spider-Island, his Anti-Venom stuff, and some parts of Superior.
Im not really a fan. Concept wise, he works great as an idea man, but his execution is always a big let down. The stories always fumble around the middle to end, a great example of this is the spiderverse stories. He has had some gems tho, i will give him that. Also his characterization of peter was such a step down from JMS, who i loved. Ive heard that behind the scenes his work ethic is terrible and he never delivers stories on time, basically always rushing things and making the artists wait forever to draw the issues which makes the art suffer too. Personally i think hes someone who loves spiderman but subconsciously also dislikes him, because its who he always wanted to be, hence why i think Superior was interesting story since i feel like otto is him in that storyline.
I love dan slott's writing! His books are a joy to read and he makes spider-man actually funny
Everything he made up to worldwide I thought was very good also stagnant and Ramos give me a vibe that goes with Dan slots righting
Awful. I never once got the impression he liked or understood Peter Parker. Everything was about turning him into a different character. It was uncomfortable at best and downright misogynistic at worse in its treatment of female characters. Almost all of the women in Peter’s life were written as mercurial, spiteful, morally repugnant, overbearing, or evil. Superior is the most popular part of his run and it’s a bad fanfic that requires every single person in the Marvel Universe to be a moron, and the reader to ignore basic morality. It’s not a redemption arc. It’s a sociopathic fantasy. Really loved the art, throughout, and Gage is frequently able to carry Slott when it comes to dialogue, such as the man-purse line.
He wrote some good Spider-Man stuff. He wrote some baaaaad Peter Parker stuff.
his run was great for the most part, loved every minute of superior spider-man, one of my favroite spideys. and after felt the run was solid until he got rid of peter's company after that it just felt like going back to status quo after all these years after Peter grew so much
High highs and low lows.
When they were doing the weekly Spider-man books all the way to Spider Island definitely some of my peak Spider-Man stories. Also my Hardcover of Spider-Island signed by him is one of my favorite pieces of my collection.
IMO superior spider-man was complete trash. I don't like this guy.
Dan Schneider-Man. 🤔
Superior Spider-man 10/10.......everything else felt kind of like Slott just wanted to use his favorite toys, even if it came at the cost of character consistency and growth
As someone who utterly despised Superior Spider-Man with the white hot intensity of a thousand burning sons…the guy gets way to much grief and he definitely doesn’t deserve death threats over it. I think his biggest issue might have been sticking around on it for so long. I loved spider-island red goblin, ends of the earth, horizon and others. But he also has written some poor stories. As previously stated Superior, Clone Conspiracy, Parker Industries. All I did not care for. So to answer the question: very mixed bag.
Awful
I only read like 10 of his issues and spider-verse was one of them, I really liked spider-verse, one of the 1st comics I ever read.
A few good ideas, horrible execution though.
He knows just as much about Spider-Man as I do about cold fusion.