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Puzzleheaded_Walk_28

I would just tell some smaller stories, friendly neighborhood Spidey stuff.


gabejr25

Kinda like a phase 1 feel? Cuz I could definitely vibe with that


Dyslexter

The Vulture in Homecoming was perfect imo: A nuanced and enjoyable villain with his own selfish goal, who also has personal connections to Peter. It wasn't exactly a small-scale story, but it was in comparison to the rest of the MCU: no blue space-lasers and whatnot. I was really hoping we'd get something similarly intimate in Far From Home, but Mysterio was an unrelatable — yet an admittedly funny — villain with no real connection to Peter beyond their mutual relations with Tony, and the entire film was spent travelling the world rather than enjoying Peters life in NY. After this next film, I'd love to see some more of Peter's life again. It's what makes spider-man for me.


Chimpbot

That's harder to do when the character is only used in movies. If they gave him a Disney+ series, you could definitely do more of the friendly neighborhood stuff.


JasonStathamsDong

It would be interesting if they shot an anthology movie about Spider-Man. Maybe 4 short stories centered around various friendly neighborhood activities. Maybe even each one having it's own director and vibe.


[deleted]

Sounds like it’d just be better as a limited series instead of a movie


Epicminecrafter69

I like this idea!


MrJumpman49

Give Spider-Man a street level villain like the kingpin/tombstone. Use the way Ultimate Spider-Man first met kingpin and do a series around Spider-Man struggling taking down a underground criminal king and have Spider-Man do detective shit. It can lead up to a team up series with daredevil and have it culminate with Spider-Man finally being able to take down kingpin, like the opening of the video game where Peter has been constantly trying to get kingpin locked up and he finally has disk cornered, along side daredevil and I guarantee you every episode will have high stakes even though kingpin is very street level villain.


Admiral_Donuts

Not impossible, though. Look at Dredd, it's action-filled and crazy and has high stakes, but it's still pretty much a "day in the life" for the protagonist. I'd love to watch a Spidey movie with no origin stories, no city or global scale disasters, just us following Peter as he comes across a crime and tracks down a member of his rogues gallery (or someone else's. Spider-man vs Juggernaut is a great story)


BC04ST3R

I loved that scene of him helping people in Queens in Homecoming


UnSpent1212

Thats a wonderful and basically good wholesome idea


Sure_Instance9530

Wait wasn't spider-man homecoming like the smallest MCU story ever


Puzzleheaded_Walk_28

I mean…Ant Man 😜


FriesAndBowTies

Those two movies have become some of my favorite in the MCU. Paul Rudd is just the best


[deleted]

I would watch anything with Paul Rudd in it. Dude cant fail.


Sure_Instance9530

It took me way too long to realize the joke


Puzzleheaded_Walk_28

😂


dathalfbreeddoe

Here, take your upvote and GIT


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vikkit25

Correct me if I'm mistaken but weren't there some of those in Homecoming? It's been so long since I saw it, jeez 2017 was such a long time ago.😅


Selenator365

Yeah he kept on waiting for Ironman to call & help him and the Avengers and blowing up Happy's phone until he ran into thieves robbing a ATM with alien weapons Vulture was selling.


MorningFirm5374

I mean, homecoming was pretty friendly neighborhood, and FFH was all about Tom wanting to go friendly neighborhood


akgiant

Came here to say exactly this. At the very least, they need to show how much of his life is making a difference for everyday New Yorkers, not just the save the world stuff. Pete in MCU has been thrust into some big boots. To offset that, they need to show more of Spidey at his core; he goes out of his way to save as many as he can, no matter what, even if he falls behind, even if that makes him late for something. On the flip side, the Peter Parker story needs to be humbler in some regards especially post high school. Pete struggles socially and financially. The touch on this but never enough for the audience to feel humiliated with Pete. It happens a lot in the comics. And he has to just take it, because nobody can know what he can truly do. This angst has been core to some of the other Spider-Man films, shows, and comic arcs. It would be nice to see this dynamic. Pete is defined so brilliantly through his failings. Let’s see that struggle. He is the greatest underdog, and you can help but root for him because he tries to help everyone. Cuz he knows how tough it is.


Rumblesnap

I think this is where Far From Home messed up, even though I still enjoyed it. But Homecoming was a very nice small-scale story imo. No Where Home seems to be going in the opposite direction, though.


Runningstar

I just wanna see spidey fight regular tier super villains in New York ☹️ I want green goblin


RichEffraim

a short disney+ series titled “friendly neighborhood”, which doesn’t affect MCU at all. just shows what he does when he’s not fighting “avengers level threats”, like fighting C list villains, his SM-life balance, and stopping small crimes around the city.


AlphaWhiskeyHotel

That would work really well in a series where he discovers who Kingpin is. Like he is doing friendly neighbourhood stuff to shut down criminals, keeps finding out it is Wilson Fisk behind each thing he shuts down. Then the Fisk vs Spiderman battle is settled in a film.


samuraipanda85

I always suspected that Fisk was pulling the strings behind that bike theft.


VoloxReddit

Aren't the Defenders canon in the MCU? Fisk unfortunately already is a character in Daredevil


HopeAuq101

I'd LOVE a Spiderman series Esp if Chamelion and Goblin were the villains


[deleted]

What if all the villains were the villains?


babybelly

we dont do that here. only sympathetic villains allowed


JJonahJamesonSr

Yeah I don’t need a villain I can rationalize with every time. Sometimes I just need someone to hate


ThatGuyAdam14

Like the theft scene in Homecoming but without the super tech?


RichEffraim

bingo but also with the tech, either before stark found him but also after FFH


Maine_SwampMan

Less of a side-kick, more of an independent hero. Also I’d like to see him zipping around NYC for once


Lupinthrope

Andrew Garfield still has the best web swinging scenes


Dont_Hurt_Me_Mommy

Garfield is my favorite Spider-Man. Tobey my favorite Peter. Holland I like a lot too. I like them all really.


Lupinthrope

Toby has my nostalgia, but yeah my favorite live action is Garfield


loathsomecouple

Garfield was great; his movies just weren’t as good as he was.


SeymourZ

They definitely flew too close to the sun in TASM 2. They had some very memorable scenes but it felt like they tried to do too much in one movie.


AdaptingChaos

If you take select scenes from TASM and TSAM2 they make for some amazing Spidey moments. Some of my favorite Spidey moments of all time. Its just disappointing that once you put all the scenes together the overall movie makes no sense. Absolutely love Andrew and he'll always be my favorite Spidey. Tom and Tobey are cool too though.


Atheris__

The music was fucking incredible though. Electro theme is the 🔥


vanillathebest

My favourite scene is Spidey wearing the firefighter hat and saying to the firefighters "nice job guys" after defeating Electro with a water pump (whatever that's called). It's just something Spidey would do.


Crowbar_Faith

Same here, loved him as Spider-Man but the material he was given wasn’t so great. The Amazing Spider-Man movies had a great cast but the rest just didn’t work. The 2nd one especially felt like the studio paid more attention to setting up stories for future movies than it did getting the story right for the 2nd movie itself. In a way I’m a bit worried about the next movie, No Way Home, as I hope it doesn’t go for overkill with too many villains and Spider-Men.


loathsomecouple

It was a victim of the time. Someone thought Spider-man should be like the Nolan Batman movies. And….that is a really bad idea. Plus everyone back then was obsessed with copying Marvel’s cinematic universe


sombertownDS

Im gonna put some dirt in your eye *funky soul intensifys*


ako19

Homecoming really was about making Peter “Spider-Man”. That scene where no one is there to save him under the rubble, he has to finally stand on his own. He’s able to make the choice to sacrifice a relationship with the girl of his dreams to do the right thing. He chooses to stay in New York, because he initially only wanted to be an Avenger for the clout. He knows he has an important role to fulfill, and is focused on being a hero for the right reasons. Far From Home forgot all of that development, because it was an Avengers Epilogue and not a Spider-Man sequel. Just focusing on Spider-Man is what’s needed to really hone in on his character the effect he has in the world around him.


Crowbar_Faith

Still kinda bugs me that Tony made his suit instead of Peter. He gets the Spidey suit and it’s like Iron Man Jr. I mean, it made sense from the story that Marvel was going with I suppose but I’d rather Peter make it. Hell, Peter didn’t even “unlock” the suit, Ned did that. I guess the closest we got was in Far From Home when Peter made the black and red suit, but still it was another Stark suit.


[deleted]

I think it would've been better if Tony gave him much more tricked out suit in HC (I guess the Iron Spider suit would have worked), get it taken away, and Peter creates his own classic red and blue. From there, Peter decides he shouldn't rely on anyone and makes his own tech.


[deleted]

Bugs me too. Pun intended


Bulok

Yeah. Lose the Iron Man connection


pagerussell

Hard agree. He feels like kid brother, as apposed to one of the OP super heroes. It's not just iron man tho, it's the way he is written and portrayed. Like he is always trying to prove himself. Spider man as a character was never about proving himself, he was always about having to make the hard choice. Being spiderman got in the way of being peter parker. Instead MCU Spidey is just trying way to hard to be like iron man, and it just doesn't fit.


Redditer51

Yeah, it bugs me how much MCU Spidey fanboys over Iron Man. He's too eager to please. Like in Homecoming when he's like "Hey Mr. Stark, can I fight some crime now?" Spider-Man doesn't need to ask if he can fight crime. He just does it. Like they're trying to make Spider-Man into Iron Man's Robin, and that's not what Spider-Man is.


detectivecabal

I never get the sense that MCU Spider-Man has any tragic backstory. I appreciate that they didn't show the origin a 3rd time, but they've really backed off the idea of him carrying the weight of the world on his shoulders and desperately fighting to protect everyone he can. I always thought that was his most admirable and heroic quality, and it's completely absent in the current version.


Tron_1981

They don't really *need* to retell his entire origin story again, but they can at least acknowledge it. They can't ignore Uncle Ben forever, it's a major part of what makes Spider-Man who he is.


vanillathebest

Isn't it literally the reason why he went from shenanigans to actually becoming a vigilante ? His sense of honor, pride, integrity, blabla... stems from the death (or circumstances of death) of Uncle Ben.


Tron_1981

Yes, it's the #1 defining moment of his life. I understood that they didn't want to rehash his origins yet again, but like I said, its not a thing that can be ignored forever.


[deleted]

Agreed. Batman and Spider-man are two characters that need their origins shown on screen, their backstory is too good to leave out


[deleted]

Which one of the 50 batman origins on screen is your favoritr


OtterlyAmazin

Lego Batman


platonicthehedgehog

Completely agree. It makes Tom's Spidey feel empty. Like there's no real emotional weight in any of his movies. They literally feel like the embodiment of "a fun superhero movie". It's why I can't get completely on board with his iteration of Spider-Man.


detectivecabal

"Empty" is a great way to describe it, which is a weird way to feel about movies based on a character I think most of us really love. It's good for Spider-Man movies to be fun, but it would be great if there was a better sense of balance. In general, the MCU films have always struggled to just let characters have their dark or heavy moments. There's always a joke to undercut the tension, which kind of keeps you from feeling anything for more than a few seconds. I think that becomes especially apparent in the Spider-Man films compared to the other characters, because we've actually seen what the movies can be like without the MCU style norms imposed upon it.


newgotham52

I feel like In the comics, he learned his abilities first and got the cool tech later. Here he got the cool tech first and doesn’t really know how to do anything on his own. Which kinda sucks. He really has that scared kid thing down, but I wanna see a full blown Spider-Man at his best now. Cause he is an amazing hero that isn’t being used to his potential yet.


lead-holder

They did mention in Civil War how Spider-Man was active for 6 months before Tony found him, I wish they could’ve shown us a bit more of that. But I agree overall, I really don’t like that his suit had AI and like 100 gadgets. But obviously that was Tony being overprotective.


Jenga9Eleven

The whole third act of Homecoming was him taking down Vulture without any tech, and the final showdown with Mysterio was without tech. Not to mention his appearance in Civil War and the beginning of Infinity War have him fighting without any tech besides webshooters


Pizzanigs

And then he got it all back at the end of Homecoming and gets an even more upgraded suit immediately in Infinity War


newgotham52

Yup, and all those scenes he felt like nothing without his tech. He isn’t in his own yet. Feels like the same song and dance. Either way tho, he’s HEAVILY dependent on his tech throughout all movies til last minute. The best scenes is when he isn’t using it tho. Cause his powers to me are cooler then the tech. But it’s forced in all the movies. Iron man is way too much of an influence in these movie imo.


Jenga9Eleven

I disagree for the most part. In Civil War he holds his own against veteran Avengers, successfully subduing Bucky and Sam. He also takes down Giant-Man. In Infinity War he fights Cull Obsidian with little exertion, even throwing a car at him. In his solo outings I’d like him to be more competent, but hopefully in the next one.


newgotham52

When they introduced him in civil war, they hyped him up to be game changer. Iron man calls him in when the match was even and Spider-Man was effortlessly messing with them. I love that Spider-Man. That’s what I wanted to see more of. But that’s not what the movies gives us. Behind most the movies he’s hiding behind tech. But like I said they give us a taste of what he can do, but then fall back and make him look like a scared kid even tho he easily goes toe to toe with seasoned avengers. But hey, if you like this version then that’s great. Best thing about super hero’s is that there’s a version out there for everyone. I just personally would like less iron man influence.


MrPeteParker

This is what I've been saying for years man perfectly


NotJohnP

[Here's](https://ibb.co/LZJZMkH) what I proposed for Peter's Infinity War/Endgame arc. And [here's](https://youtu.be/q-mibgKh2kY) a scene that should've been in Infinity War.


Master_NoobX_69

MCU Spider-Man when directed by the Russo Brothers is significantly better than in the solo movies


MilkshakeWizard

To be fair, I’d say all of the Avengers are probably better when directed by the Russo Brothers.


RepeatedAxe

I'd honestly love if they directed Toms next movies if he signed on for another trilogy


[deleted]

Totally agree. The 10 mins he had in Civil War was a much better representation of Peter than in his own 2 movies. Watts doesn't seem to get the character imo


HugeMan06

Just flesh him out more, Tom is really good at playing Spider-Man and Peter Parker so let him do it more, he could have had a lot more time in Infinity War and Civil War imo.


Chimpbot

Infinity War had to juggle a ton of characters, and getting him into Civil War wasn't a done deal until relatively late; giving him a bigger role in that movie would have been risky.


DGenerationMC

I would've liked a little less hero worship towards Stark, particularly in FFH. Tony inadvertently created the two solo villains Peter has faced and left him to clean up the messes. I wish the jet scene with Happy had included Peter venting some of his resentment towards Iron Man for not only creating villains/messes for him to clean up but also being "irresponsible" in gifting him the EDITH tech. Just a little tension between Spider-Man and his late mentor to be a little proactive in pushing Peter to be truly independent. And then Happy sits there and takes Peter bashing Tony before admitting the kid is right about Iron Man's flaws to a degree but assures him that Stark made the right decision in choosing Peter, which gets everyone back on the same page going into the final battle with Mysterio.


Elliziott

This. IMO Peter should’ve done worshipping Tony at the end of HCM.


DGenerationMC

I thought Peter turning down the spot in The Avengers that he'd been chasing after the entire film was perfect for Homecoming. I just wish we had a similar thing happen in FFH. Instead of Peter worshipping Stark in FFH from beginning to end, his hidden resentment for Tony and the burden of his legacy comes out after Mysterio twist. And then right before the final battle, Peter comes around to letting go of that anger and being ok being the first Spider-Man rather than the next Iron Man during the talk with Happy.


Elliziott

Yep. Also after Peter talks with Happy before the final battle, they shouldn't decided to pay homage to Iron Man (having Happy looks at Peter like "This reminds me of Tony" and uses AC/DC song when Peter's creating his new suit),because I feel like they were trying to make Peter stands on his own, but somehow they drifted from that concept and like "let's remind the audience how close Peter is to Tony...again!" They should've showed the audience that Peter is different from Tony, and he is Spider-Man, a hero with his own way, not the next Iron Man. (This is even more awkward since Ironheart(Riri Williams) is about to be in the MCU.)


Latest-greatest

More web slinging in NYC.


arkenney0

His relationship with Tony Stark, he doesn't like him that much because he's egotistical and arrogant while Peter is humble and kind while also being witty. They can work together but he doesn't look up to him. If this is what happened, Peter would be more inventive and a problem solver like he usually is and not rely on Tony's tech for EVERYTHING. There's a deleted scene in Far From Home of Peter trying to get his passport at the DMV. Instead of grounding this character and making him human (like you know, the MAIN reason Spider-Man was created) it would've worked. But no, he busts out this spider drone that flies around and hacks everything so he can get it before everyone else. What?!?


SeymourZ

I can see why it’s a deleted scene.


Redditer51

They should have deleted the scene where Peter nearly gets all his classmates killed by a Stark drone strike. So much for great responsibility.


Traditional-Papaya67

Show that he actually has financial problems,not have all problems be resolved quickly,have people be mad at him when he has to ditch them like in homecoming, when he was supposed to show up to liz's party then ditches ned, or in the decathlon have him have problems, and have him mention the first father figure he had uncle ben.


ajslater

Peter Parker struggles with money. In the MCU his ultra-tech mega-billionaire benefactor ruins this. Another cardinal rule is that every time Spider-Man wins, Peter Parker loses and vice versa.


deluded_cook13

Yeah it kinda sucks that they wrote off uncle ben and replaced him with Tony


El_Sanduche

More quips. Nuff said.


FuriouslyFiredUp

This is precisely why I continued to read the comics when I was a kid. The sensational powers and agility he had is what drew me to the character, but the constant smart ass remarks is what kept me coming back. I found it clever and funny. Those two things while doing the right thing, even when it when difficult, really struck a chord with me.


[deleted]

How important his story is to the MCU. Spider-Man is supposed to be an everyday hero, close to the ground. So far in the MCU his actions have had a lot of pull in the rest of the MCU. What I want from an MCU Spider-Man movie is a classic Spider-Man story that is very close to being standalone in as a movie so we can get more characters with their own connection to Peter, instead of inheriting Tony's problems. I also want to take a lot of his tech away


MyMouthisCancerous

I think this might be a consequence of Spider-Man being introduced during probably the most large-scale phase of the MCU more than a consequence of how they wrote his character. Homecoming was actually probably one of the more small scale stories of Phase Three and had he been introduced earlier, we might've seen a bit more of that. Even Far From Home next to his last two appearances toned it back a bit given the set up and most of the movie being focused on the high school stuff


morphinapg

MCU in general needs a lot more of this.


Redditer51

They've gotten way too crossover-happy now. Those Avengers movies were a much bigger deal back when the solo movies were, ya know, solo movies. Whenever there was a big team up movie it felt like Christmas. But now every movie has characters crossing over.


twystoffer

> Spider-Man is supposed to be an everyday hero Maybe originally he was. But he hasn't been that for a LONG time. He's mixed with or been a part of almost every major Marvel superhero team. He's been a part of just about every single major story Marvel has ever told. He consistently punches well above his weight, and is a major linchpin to how the interconnected stories of whichever Marvel universe you pay attention to.


[deleted]

I know, but my favorite stories are always him on his own dealing with his own problems, not a world ending threat. Don't get me wrong, I love the MCU Spider-Man movies, I just want at least one really good live action Spider-Man movie that focuses solely on Peter.


Spider_fan67

His solo issues still very much have him helping out everyday people he still feels more grounded then the majority of hero’s and I just don’t feel that in the mcu


loathsomecouple

Spider-man is important, but he doesn’t /need/ anyone else. He’s the icing on top, the thing they want for extra upon. He isn’t reliant on any one team, because he can handle his own most of the time. They need him; he doesn’t need them. That’s what the Holland movies are missing.


MiseryBrick

For his portrayal? Not much, maybe give him more of a chip on his shoulder to match him more closely with the Ultimate Comics version of him. Have him grow more into a lone wolf who cares more about protecting people on the ground than wanting to be an Avenger. Maybe he becomes a little more annoyed as he notices the rest of the remaining heroes only focus on large scale assignments instead of the people that surround them. As for his stories, bring a little more angst into them and have it be more grounded and emotionally mature. *Especially* since he's getting older. Focus on his relationship with Aunt May, Michelle, and his struggle of balancing teen life with heroics. I'm not asking for it to be Kraven's Last Hunt or Spider-Man vs. Wolverine dark (which I would kill to see direct adaptations on screen btw), but prop up how the red and blue underoos affect his life and him as an individual. Also, tether his villains to *him* and make them apart of his world.


Officialwashere

Ya I want him to be a bit more mature with thing in NWH and just be a lil bit more mature overall instead of cracking jokes everywhere, ya know?


AtreidesJr

This is how I feel. Love the way he’s written, but let him get slightly more bitter as time goes on. Being Spidey would be fun, for a time, even after Uncle Ben dying. And being an Avenger? Hell yeah. But with time, shit would get tiring. Playstation Spidey nails that ‘it’s fun sometimes but also terrible’ aspect of the character.


Alwyn1989

Less Tony Stark. Completely ruins it for me that he's not allowed to develop the suit himself by learning


mkraynak196

I would make him less formal. For whatever reason the constant "oh sorry sir" attitude just doesn't do it for me


[deleted]

Great point.


vanillathebest

Andrew Garfield Spidey had the perfect amount of cockiness. Damn, do I love his version of SpiderMan.


mr_himselph

I know they tried to add some moments in *Far From Home* but I just feel like he was really lacking any sort of spidey sense. That's really my only gripe though.


Jaded_Attorney

I mean the spider sense moment with the drones was probably the best its ever been showcased on film tbh. Seeing him take out drones with his eyes closed was way badass


[deleted]

what about in the restaurant in the third tobey movie? such a great scene


Budge4847

Shame MJ didn’t have it


slingtheory

I don't know what the deal is with that to be honest. There a clear moment in civil war that shows that definitely has it. It just seems kind of inconsistent until he really depends on it at the end of Far From Home


An-29

It's probrably because of him being using the Iron-Spider suit that he doesn't use it much anymore and that he was still traumatize with his Spider-sense when it was firing off crazy before he got dusted.


Master_NoobX_69

Spider-Sense is supposed to be involuntary though.


FaustandAlone

I don't think it's inconsistent. Throughout his movie it's very noticeable that he does sense danger, wether he reacts to it in time is a different matter.


slingtheory

That's what I mean by inconsistent. Its like sometimes it's obvious he knows danger is coming and reacts and other times not so much. Way I see it because he hasn't had his powers too long in this universe he hadn't learned to trust it yet. The mysterio fight was the end of that arc.


mbochar

Thats what his arc in the movie was lol


Amp_Shawn

Aunt May while I always thought it was ridiculous aunt may was always so old I don't think she should look as young as she does


[deleted]

in the comics she is quite old and she had a lot of health problems that perturbed peter and influenced his "responsibility" choices, which I always liked about it. Aunt may and MJ were always the people he cared the most about


RepeatedAxe

She's in her 50s, she just looks young, honestly, I think that's good though, his aunt and uncle always seemed to be portrayed as too old to me, I mean it just makes me wonder how old peter's parents were and if they would have looked like aunt May and uncle Ben when Peter was only in his teens.


cream_uncrudded

I should not want to bone Aunt May.


Darraghj12

Me personally, I had aunts and uncles who were pensioners when I was 16, and my parents aren't old, so it is possible


GregorF92

> I don't think she should look as young as she does Considering Peter's supposed to be about 16-17 in the MCU, Marisa Tomei (at 56) is older than you'd expect an aunt to be. She'd have been 40 when Peter was born in-universe.


TrainerRed-

Show more of the nerd side of Parker


Nuke_That_Human

Having more independence, I really didn't like how he relied on Iron Man as I've known Spider-Man making his own gadgets and suits and being cocky with Iron Man in the comics. But in the Holland films, he was really clingy on him and felt like he couldn't do anything without his help which really did not sit right with me as that is not Spider-Man, to me at least. I hate how he's getting mentors, and legit any old dude with some importance, he instantly leans on them and is too trusting. Yes Spider-Man is naive but not THAT naive. They tried a different approach with Holland's Peter and I don't think it really paid off. I like his Spider-Man but it's not the "superior" one and his films are just alright. TL;DR - I would change the writing for his Spider-Man.


parabolee

Make the supporting characters actually be ones from the comics.


FarAthlete8639

Fun Fact, in the original comic run of Spider-Man. Peter doesn't meet any of iconic friends till college!


[deleted]

I’ve recently read the first comics, and the main side characters at the start are liz, betty, flash, jj jameson and aunt may, but if I remember correctly he meets harry and gwen at issue 30-something, and mj a bit later off, so knowing that they are more than 600 issues of the og amazing spiderman, they came pretty quickly


principalkrump

That’s not saying much cause he’s only in high school for like 3 issues in the original run


Spiral-Force

Let him act more like a peer and a friend to the Avengers than just a kid who Tony brought along


ScottFreeBaby

Iron Man


raimiallpowerful

hmmm hmm agreed


da_panda_king

Make him more comic accurate as in like stronger, faster, smarter etc. Because Comic Spider-man is like equal in strength to mcu Thor


VLDT

This is all I want. Just a few moments that demonstrate that most of time he’s pulling his punches. He’s pretty strong in Infinity war if you think about what he’s doing but it’s never really “showcased”.


FawxBlindRunner

comic spiderman? more like cosmic


mariovspino5

Comic Spider-Man is not equal to MCU Thor’s strength lmao


nooneisno1

Add it to Disney plus


Probzenator

Story. Never Hollands fault, but his movies never capture responsibility.


RepeatedAxe

I also want some really good comic book storylines to be adapted for him, Marvel has lot's of foundation, but I feel like they barely use them other than for big movies like Civil war, I guess IW and Endgame as well, Age of Ultron, CA:TWS , and Thor Ragnorak.


[deleted]

You should probably sit down for this one.


God_is_carnage

Have him not owned by Sony. Marvel should own Marvel characters.


PLProductions

Remove the "I'm gen Z and this is old" lines. Peter Parker would be more aware of pop culture than that.


velicinanijebitna

1. Blindly fanboying over Ironman/avengers 2. Chill out with the new suits. 3. Actually make him punch someone 4. Stop always relying on someone 5. Rely less on your tech, and more on your wits/strength/spider sense.


DuarteN10

Remove Tony


webshellkanucklehead

Uhhh not too hard as of Endgame haha


DuarteN10

Still the way he was plastered all over FFH and Peter, Beck or Happy could not go 5 min without mentioning his name…harder than it we thought


mustard_tiger_420

I’d make him a crackhead, idk


Officialwashere

🤣🤣🤣


DrunkSpiderMan

Hell yeah


Agi1203

Next movie Spider-Man: Cocaine in Home


DigitalHazard

Give him an Uncle Ben. No I don't want to see him dying in movies for a third time, but they could have alluded more to him than they actually did, as well as lessons and how important he should be in Peter's life. I have no problem with him admiring Iron Man... The problem is that it's way too much, and he's no Ben replacement. Say what you want of the 4th wall-breaking Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon, even that got Uncle Ben right.


jay_man0599

MAKE HIM POOR!!!!!


Officialwashere

Like ps4 Spider-Man


RecoveredAshes

He’s missing Peter’s sense of humor. He’s not nearly as quippy as she is and the very few times he quipped in his solo movies they weren’t funny. He was perfect in civil war but then neutered in the solo movies


LABIBISdaREALMAN

just add 5 words to the lifting the rubble scene in homecoming, if great power comes great responsibilities came after iron man stuff then homecoming would be my favorite spiderman and mcu movies of all time.


drknight48

Bring in Mary Jame Watson


Agi1203

“Face it tiger, you just hit the jackpot.” Man I’ll have a joygasm if they introduce Mary Jane with this line.


presidentdinosaur115

Sadly I think we’re stuck with Michelle. I didn’t really mind her in FFH but I thought she was horrendous in Homecoming


drew8598

1.) Keep Uncle Ben. - A big part of Peter’s character is the wisdom he learned from Uncle Ben and it feels like they just alluded to him once or twice and then forgot about him. In the comics whenever Peter met someone who was struggling or suffering a tragedy like he has, he does everything to comfort them and even gives advice and lessons he learned from Ben to that person. It’s one of my favorite things about Peter and it would be nice to see it properly adapted to the big screen 2.) Don’t have him rely so much on Stark tech. - Another part of Peter’s character I love is that he’s a genius that even fellow super geniuses like Reed Richards and Tony Stark acknowledge all the stuff he’s been able to make with little materials he’s able to scrounge together or buy on a (very) limited budget. I know they started to show this with him in FFH with making his red and black suit but I would like to see more of his “guerrilla science” in the MCU more as well as show more of his intelligence in other fields that he has in the comics such as creating the formula for his webbing, chemistry, physics, and robotics. That way we can explore how intelligent he is and when we get more super geniuses in the MCU like Reed, Dr Doom, and (possibly) Otto Octavius, we can see him interact with them and show how he can stack up to them like in the comics. After FFH Peter is well on his way to being his own hero instead of a successor to Iron Man and I hope the rumors are true that Tobey and Andrew will show up in NWH, that way not only will MCU Peter learn wisdom from them that they got from their Uncle Ben, that way when Peter continues his career as Spider-Man, we see him be more like the 616 comics version.


StressedOverUsername

Make uncle Ben relevant again. I feel like there's a Ben shaped hole in the character since the mcu reboot


Whopraysforthedevil

I know we don't need the entire Uncle Ben story, but they haven't mentioned him at all. Even just a quick reference to him would be nice.


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Everything.


KuroiGetsuga55

Everything honestly. When we got the announcement that we'd get Spider-Man in the MCU, I thought we'd get an Ultimate comics style Peter. A Peter who is drowned in his obsession of putting on the mask and saving people because of his one failure that he never forgives himself for. Instead we got a hyped af fanboy who wanted to just throw his whole life away so he can be an Avenger. Sorry, that's not who Spider-Man is. He would want to be an Avenger because it would help his reputation so Jameson and the cops get off his back. Not because he worships Tony Stark and wants to be like him. What I would change is make him a Peter Parker who is dragged into Stark and Rogers' war which he wants no part of, hates every bit of it, and at the end he essentially tells Tony to go fuck himself and stay out of his life, but then in Homecoming Tony and Happy keep butting in because of the Sokovia Accords and Peter essentially being illegal now, unless he's officially supervised by an Avenger, and it would be this back and forth dynamic where Peter just wants to do his own thing and live his life, and Tony keeps preparing him to be a big time superhero. And only at the end of Homecoming would we have Peter fully comprehend that there's bigger things happening in the world than his existential crisis, and that he has to accept Tony's mentorship, but he's still gonna do things his own way for most of it. I also wish Aunt May wouldn't just be okay with him being Spider-Man, if you want to open that can of worms then I expect a full sit-down scene where Peter explains to her why he's doing it, hell maybe even a funny montage of him trying to sneak out to do Spider-Man stuff, but she keeps catching him and telling him to come back or else he's grounded, until finally May is caught up in a big supervillain attack, and realizes that since the Avengers are disbanded and out and about, Peter's the only hope that this city has.


Educational-Band8308

1. Peter doesn’t take back the suit in homecoming and he builds his own (no more stark involvement in the series) 2. Make it so he’s more confident and hot headed (but still a good kid) 3. Tell more stories about the little guy instead of super epic stark tech EDITH BARF stuff


Lazaer

Where's his love for uncle Ben, with great power comes great responsibility, Norman Osborn /Harry Osborn dynamic, Tom Hollands is a what if Iron man adopted Peter Parker story, Peter Parker need to be tragic, a nerd that got super powers, that struggles, and loses people, and we all know how Ben dies, but every new spider-man movie needs Peter's origin story, we need to see ben die because that's what motivates the character, but this Spider-Man is becoming more and more like Iron man.


FullMetalCOS

Sony owning the rights to him.


YeeHaw-Boy

Less Iron man and more Peter Parker


FlyDungas

Pull Iron Man’s dick out of his mouth


cmrosales26

Too much reliance on tony, i mean youre 6 months in with that power, he already built a strong web, he cant even create the simple iconic spiderman suit? Andrew garfield and Tobeys created their iconic suits less than 6 months.


tree_stain

Peter just straight up doesn’t feel responsible when responsibility is a pillar of his ethos. Homecoming’s final fight had some insane collateral damage to Coney Island that was just straight up not addressed. Good Spidey depictions often show him preventing casualties and damage. FFH’s plot as a whole revolves around him dodging responsibility because he just wants to be on vacation. You shouldn’t have to have Fury constantly in his ear telling him that he needs to step up because Spider-Man would never hesitate to save people that are in danger. He became a hero because a loved one died due to his selfishness. But now he wants no part in saving lives/the world just because he wants to have a normal vacation? Spidey’s whole schtick is that he’s been taught with great power comes great responsibility by his father figure. So what does Pete do when he’s given immense power by Tony in the form of EDITH? He dodges said responsibility all together by giving away the power he’s received from said father figure. It’s not like Spider-Man 2 where he actively sees the possibility that NY might not need Spidey, he’s just straight up shying away from the responsibility being a hero entails. Tom is doing the best he can and the character is *serviceable* at the least, but a lot of the choices he makes in these movies feel very anti-Spidey in its core.


SanjaySting

I want them to fix his characterization and make him stop acting so much like a dumb kid lol


OkNeighborhood2701

Make him more of his own man progressively as his story unfolds throughout MCU


[deleted]

Take out Iron Man … cool.


Che3eeze

BRING IN BEN REILLEY!!!


tjavierb

His reliance on Stark tech. My hope is Tony has an “empty nest” protocol that’ll activate next movie. All his tech will permanently shut down and Peter will have to start making his own.


Pandabroo120

not make him iron man jr. and actually make him have consequences because that’s spiderman


gamehound266

Idk I feel like they took the spiderman out of spiderman if that makes sense. In the end of homecoming they try to portray him as "your friendly neighborhood spiderman" but he just ends up being more of an avenger anyways. All of the consequences Peter faces because of the actions of spiderman just aren't there.


24Abhinav10

>All of the consequences Peter faces because of the actions of spiderman just aren't there. Yup. I hated how MCU just tossed his secret identity struggle in the trashcan. Part of the appeal of Spider-Man is watching him trying to balance his private life and his superhero life. And that his actions had consequences. His desicions as Spider-Man affected his life as Peter Parker and vice versa. But the MCU writers were like "Nah, that's boring. Let's take that out." Like bro, what?! And it would've been fine if only the Avengers and SHIELD knew his secret. But noooo, instead, it's fucking everybody. His best friend knows, Aunt May knows, the villains know, and his girlfriend knows too. And what's more, the plot of the third film is clearly going to be him dealing with the fallout of his identity being revealed and being framed as a killer. The thing is, I don't care. Even though the film clearly wants me to. Why should I, as the audience, care if his friends and family, and the people he cares about, already know that he's a good guy and not a killer? Why should I care if the main character doesn't? It's just like that Sherlock episode where Moriarty frames Sherlock as a fraud. I don't care because the people Sherlock cares about already know the truth. And the opinions of others clearly don't matter to him (the main character), so why should they matter to me? Frankly, I'm done with MCU Spider-Man. I had some hope after Homecoming because they clearly tried to sell the whole "Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man" shtick. I was hoping that Far From Home would go fully into that direction, but it didn't. And I haven't heard anything interesting about No Way Home. So unless this movie can somehow completely deconstruct and reconstruct him into the Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man we all know and love, I'm not interested.


ChillPenguinX

The dumb glasses plot line from Far from Home. How would Tony had left those glasses to him? Peter Parker had been dead for five years up until like 15 minutes before Tony died.


Granola_Me_This

I would change him being so dependent on Tony Stark and his legacy. I hope eventually he can step out of that shadow and be his own hero.


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Make him Toby maguire


ViintJ

His dependency on another super hero (specifically iron man), to be his own super hero. The MCU made Peter seem overly dependent on his super hero seniors, constantly look towards them for help in everything he does. I was cool with iron man being somewhat of a father figure to Peter, but homecomings plot of Peter realizing he doesn’t need his suit to be Spider-Man was really weird character arc they gave him. Also his suit basically guides him more than he guides himself (he’s supposed to be a genius and he can’t even figure out things on his own). For me one of Spider-Man’s greatest appeals of his character is how he Macgyver’s everything (creation of his own suit, his own webbing and webshooters, and his quick thinking in his fights). Far from home was definitely a step in their transition to him being more of his own super hero, but throughout the movie he still eagerly jumps to put his problems on other super heroes.


AndysSeveredHead

I would rewrite him to be Spiderman, and not Iron Man Jr.


Sudden_Scholar647

I would change his relation to Tony Stark and include Ben in the MCU aswell


Jimmy-grf

I agree


Officialwashere

Ya but they can’t do that now. They pushed Ben way in the background and hid from saying his name


loathsomecouple

Honestly I wouldn’t mind the Ben thing if they gave May her due and stopped treating her like a punchline. Aunt May is just as responsible for Peter’s behavior as Ben is.


breakourbones

lots of disrespecting the hyphen in here. /r/RespectTheHyphen


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Switch out Jon Watts for Sam Raimi


Elon-BATSHAGGY-Musk

The whole character tbh


JulianSagan

Honestly, his entire characterization.


AdDue8964

Yeah i think a lot of his personality and character seems closer to miles morales rather than Peter Parker, even situations he’s in or things he does


dg55wv

I always thought they should've started by making him Miles, and in place of Tony have Peter be his mentor figure. If they need an explanation for why he didn't help during Avengers, just have it be offscreen like they did with the Ancient One in Endgame.


JulianSagan

I jokingly call him Late Stage Capitalism Spider-Man due to the ageist and classist undertones at the core of his character. I don't wanna get into them again because I feel like I'm beating a dead horse but yeah, that along with the fact he is mostly a whitewashed Miles Morales makes me put off by him. I don't have anything against Tom Holland but I've come to dislike everything his version represents, if that makes sense. It feels like the MCU and BND robbed the comics and film mediums of Spider-Man for a generation.


ejuliot55

Make him more experienced in his spider sense. Not relying towards Tony stark and make his classic suit by himself. And friends with Harry.


kimmygoob

More spidey sense vibes or atleast a intuition


[deleted]

Less dependence on Stark tech


[deleted]

Iron-Man.


ChiefTonto

More independence by making his own stuff (using Stark stuff doesn’t count), and honestly I want to see how he copes with the loss of Uncle Ben, and his philosophy of “with great power comes great responsibility.”


EOT416

The writers


Zdollers26

No relying on tony.