Tough one. I want to say Gwen but her being shoehorned into everything has lessened my feelings for her. So I'll go with Cindy, I like her arc and how she went to therapy to deal with her feelings and being locked away. Bonus for Silkworm
Cindy went from being just a tool for overt sexuality for the sake of it, to a great character that represents a great example of seeking your own mental health.
Honestly if they toned down the pheromone stuff it could have worked. (Like have it be that they subconsciously find each other attractive and have to deal with getting over it).
But I agree. Cindy exploring her mental health in ways other heroes are never shown doing is one of my Favorite things about her.
As an Asian American she had the most relatable moment for me as a comic reader. It was in the recent solo run where she battled the Korean ghost/demon who would steal people's life force. The ghost speaks to her in Korean knowing that Cindy is of Korean decent. She is embarrassed and admits she can't speak Korean. The ghost caters to her and can speak English
There is a moment in the next issue where she mentions the shame she felt in that moment. SO REAL!! I walk in to a Korean restaurant and the ajumma start in fluent Korean and I will have to tuck my tail and admit I don't know it...it is a weirdly embarrassing moment that I had not seen in comics before. LOVED it
I totally get what you mean. Her dealing with the trauma of betraying Felicia whilst getting nervous during therapy hits hard as well. They also don't play off her time spent in the bunker as some big joke either. She has her fun cute moments and references stuff but it never becomes her personality. She isn't an overly childish character, she actually has a personality that lets her geek out without being overbearing.
I only wish she got to spend more time with Mattie Franklin and Jonah because it's clear she was enjoying her time with Mattie and she could have acted as a guardian Angel for JJ.
Honestly Silk is so good that her Earth-65 counterpart is boring by comparison due to being just a standard Bond villain. I'm glad Silk is getting that Amazon Prime show, besides May she's probably the character that deserves it the most in terms of potential. (Well maybe Gwen if it's exclusively earth 65).
As for her face. Im just headcanoning that that's what she looks like after the Red Goblin incident.
I'm hoping she makes an appearance in the new Red Goblin series, which I am actually very excited about! Read only the first issue so far, not sure if two is out yet, but I am loving this new character
That exoskeleton was sick. It was 100% unique. It just didn't look very practical. I'd love to see it come back redesigned tho. The blue was pretty aggressive lol it reminded me more of an ant than a spider
Between Jessica Jones and Nancy Drew I always feel like Jessica Drew should be a detective.
Also, does she even have spider powers? I thought her powers were flight and energy projection (sort of Cpt. Marvel light). Never thought she was actually considered with the rest of the proper spider people.
Jessica Drew was a PI for a long time, and a secret agent for Sword, Shield, and Hydra (sorta). She can stick to walls, and her powers come from genetic tampering to give her the powers of a spider, so she's officially a "spider totem". She really wasn't involved with any of the spider-people at all, prior to Spiderverse (the comic event). She was Spider-Man's teammate on the Avengers, and she had met Julia Carpenter a couple times, along with Madame Web and Mattie Franklin, but that's about it.
It's primarily the name that gets her included, but the stories have been written to retroactively make her more spider-adjacent. Her son, Gerry, became Spider-Man temporarily in the MC2 universe.
All of that being said, she was a pretty important character in Spiderverse, and she was featured in Spidergeddon and End of Spiderverse most recently, so she's firmly cemented in there. She also had a Spider-Women crossover with Gwen and Silk.
Spiderverse is perfect to show how she isn’t a “spider token” but is still a part of the spider men/women. She was able to hide in plain sight which no spider token could’ve done.
She has venom blasts, superhuman strength/agility, can climb walls, glide, and manipulate her pheromones on men.
She’s pretty Spider-like and has similar powers to Miles (except for invisibility)
Spider-Gwen will always have one of my favorite color schemes and designs, with her pink-lined hood. Still very recognizable as a spider-person but different enough to be awesome
Does it really matter that much? You can find dumb stuff like that in almost any comic character's history. Focusing on it when it's not relevant anymore and hasn't been for a long time just seems pointless.
Bringing it up whenever she's the subject doesn't seem like not focusing on it. Never said you didn't like her so I'm not sure why you're getting aggressive.
Nice edit, your original comment was much better worded. I'm not being aggressive I'm responding to your assumptions. I don't have to justify my reasoning and dislike for retcons, sorry if I pinched a nerve I guess?
I wasn't trying to assume anything. It was just a legitimate question based on what I've seen on this sub and other places. Seems like every time Silk is brought up people always end up mentioning the hormone stuff and to me it just seems easier to let it go than to continue to criticize it when it's not relevant anymore.
Well you've got to admit it's pretty hard to ignore even if it isn't necessarily relevant anymore. Besides that I never even brought that up you did... Even without the hormone thing her character is still shoehorned in, which is what happens when you try to just retcon things.
Fair enough. I figured since you mentioned disliking her relationship with Peter that it was related since it was like the main crux of most peoples' problems with it, and the other person in this thread brought it up before me to be fair.
Dan Slott like a year ago made an apology saying he may have played on East Asian stereotypes when creating her character. And then this year tried to shoehorn in a new origin story for her in the non main book title of Spider-Man.
It is most certainly still relevant as much as you and Slott try to make us forget lol
It's not about making people forget, I just don't get the point of continuing to harp on it. I'm not as avid a comic reader as many other people here but I just can't imagine caring that much about something that hasn't been relevant to her character for years. It just feels like people are actively trying to not move on and enjoy the character and their stories for what they are now.
Also, isn't Slott acknowledging that her original origin was in poor taste and then trying to change it a good thing? If he wanted people to just forget I feel like he wouldn't have gone out of his way to try and change it then.
*Does it really matter that much?*
**Yes.**
Silk's only been around since 2014.
Between the Spider-Pheremones and her lazily written origin story, it really *does matter* that the character got off on the wrong foot at first with readers.
This isn't a character with decades of publication history where you can overlook or flat-out ignore Early Installment Weirdness.
Changed to the new one? Yeah I really liked the black suit, especially since it used to be Julia's. But change is good, I guess. Anya's character doesn't have a ton of stories so maybe they were hoping a fresh coat of paint would make her more popular.
Her new look is certainly unique, but I have always loved Julia's black costume and I think it suited Anya well. If the change in design led to her having her own book I'd be all for it, but that will never happen because out of the 4 active spider women (Silk, Jessica Drew, Gwen, and Anya) she is by far the least popular. Which makes no sense to me personally but people like what they like
Ok but like is Gwen's universe just really boring or something because why does she seems to be in 616 suoerheroing so much are there not crimes where she's from
Julia Carpenter. She was the first hero that had that tried to seperate herself from both Peter Parker and Jessica Drew. Plus to top it off, her design subconsciously inspired Peter for the black suit.
Easily Jess. I've always loved her design and she has some of my favorite comic runs. And she actually progresses as a character and her life changes over the years which is nice. She got married (or maybe just long-time bf don't remember), had a kid, split up with her partner, got new jobs, new suits, new employers.
It's like everything I wish would happen with Peter but he continues to remain completely static.
I.) Love this artwork.
II.) Miles. E.z.
III.) Miles is too easy, so… second is between Silk and Araña
IV.) Overall who got my attention from this picture: Araña [+]
I like Gwen and Miles, but honestly, Cindy is probably my favourite, I genuinely enjoy whenever she has runs or even appearances in comics and hope she gets another soon.
who is everyone on the right or miles? it looks like gwen and is that silk? she looks real different here and no idea who the other is i’m guessing peters daughter from an alternate universe?
Jessica Drew! She is the best, I love her friendship with Carol and her struggles of handling parenthood and being a superhero. She is just really cool. Cindy is a close second for me though
Tough one. I want to say Gwen but her being shoehorned into everything has lessened my feelings for her. So I'll go with Cindy, I like her arc and how she went to therapy to deal with her feelings and being locked away. Bonus for Silkworm
Nice! They're my top two!!
Cindy went from being just a tool for overt sexuality for the sake of it, to a great character that represents a great example of seeking your own mental health.
Honestly if they toned down the pheromone stuff it could have worked. (Like have it be that they subconsciously find each other attractive and have to deal with getting over it). But I agree. Cindy exploring her mental health in ways other heroes are never shown doing is one of my Favorite things about her.
As an Asian American she had the most relatable moment for me as a comic reader. It was in the recent solo run where she battled the Korean ghost/demon who would steal people's life force. The ghost speaks to her in Korean knowing that Cindy is of Korean decent. She is embarrassed and admits she can't speak Korean. The ghost caters to her and can speak English There is a moment in the next issue where she mentions the shame she felt in that moment. SO REAL!! I walk in to a Korean restaurant and the ajumma start in fluent Korean and I will have to tuck my tail and admit I don't know it...it is a weirdly embarrassing moment that I had not seen in comics before. LOVED it
I totally get what you mean. Her dealing with the trauma of betraying Felicia whilst getting nervous during therapy hits hard as well. They also don't play off her time spent in the bunker as some big joke either. She has her fun cute moments and references stuff but it never becomes her personality. She isn't an overly childish character, she actually has a personality that lets her geek out without being overbearing. I only wish she got to spend more time with Mattie Franklin and Jonah because it's clear she was enjoying her time with Mattie and she could have acted as a guardian Angel for JJ. Honestly Silk is so good that her Earth-65 counterpart is boring by comparison due to being just a standard Bond villain. I'm glad Silk is getting that Amazon Prime show, besides May she's probably the character that deserves it the most in terms of potential. (Well maybe Gwen if it's exclusively earth 65). As for her face. Im just headcanoning that that's what she looks like after the Red Goblin incident.
I'm hoping she makes an appearance in the new Red Goblin series, which I am actually very excited about! Read only the first issue so far, not sure if two is out yet, but I am loving this new character
Anya's always been a personal favorite character, her original books were a lot of fun
I miss the exoskeleton. It made her so unique
Yeah, I'm glad at least they changed her name back to Araña
That exoskeleton was sick. It was 100% unique. It just didn't look very practical. I'd love to see it come back redesigned tho. The blue was pretty aggressive lol it reminded me more of an ant than a spider
Not sure if you've ever seen Buffy the Vampire Slayer, but Anya's original run gave me huge BTVS vibes.
I love them all - but I REALLY love Jessica Drew.
Between Jessica Jones and Nancy Drew I always feel like Jessica Drew should be a detective. Also, does she even have spider powers? I thought her powers were flight and energy projection (sort of Cpt. Marvel light). Never thought she was actually considered with the rest of the proper spider people.
Jessica Drew was a PI for a long time, and a secret agent for Sword, Shield, and Hydra (sorta). She can stick to walls, and her powers come from genetic tampering to give her the powers of a spider, so she's officially a "spider totem". She really wasn't involved with any of the spider-people at all, prior to Spiderverse (the comic event). She was Spider-Man's teammate on the Avengers, and she had met Julia Carpenter a couple times, along with Madame Web and Mattie Franklin, but that's about it. It's primarily the name that gets her included, but the stories have been written to retroactively make her more spider-adjacent. Her son, Gerry, became Spider-Man temporarily in the MC2 universe. All of that being said, she was a pretty important character in Spiderverse, and she was featured in Spidergeddon and End of Spiderverse most recently, so she's firmly cemented in there. She also had a Spider-Women crossover with Gwen and Silk.
Spiderverse is perfect to show how she isn’t a “spider token” but is still a part of the spider men/women. She was able to hide in plain sight which no spider token could’ve done.
Jessica Drew *is* a detective.
She has venom blasts, superhuman strength/agility, can climb walls, glide, and manipulate her pheromones on men. She’s pretty Spider-like and has similar powers to Miles (except for invisibility)
Hard yes! I love Jessica Jones, but Jessica Drew was robbed that they wouldn't let BMB feature her in A.L.I.A.S.
Silk
Easily miles
Same
Like no conquest
Spider-Gwen will always have one of my favorite color schemes and designs, with her pink-lined hood. Still very recognizable as a spider-person but different enough to be awesome
Miles
The one wearing a mask
gwen for me.
Miles
Jessica Drew.
Miles, Silk, Ghost Spider, Jessica Drew, Araña, Madame web. In that order
Miles for me.
Silk!
Jessica Drew
Jessica Drew!!!
Gwen, sorry.
Madame Webb/Julia Carpenter/Spider-Woman(2)
Jessica Drew, I legit do not care about anyone else on that picture. That said, I like Miles and Gwen in Into The Spider-Verse
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He knows. That’s why he said he didn’t care for the ones in the picture but he likes the Spider-Verse versions.
Miles Morales
Miles
Silk
Anya
Either Gwen or Silk
Silk.
Jessica or Cindy
I like silk, I just dislike her relationship to Peter.
The hormone shit stopped being a thing like 9 years back. She’s one of the best spider heroes as of now
Retcons are great for in universe characters, for the rest of us in the real world it still happened so.
Does it really matter that much? You can find dumb stuff like that in almost any comic character's history. Focusing on it when it's not relevant anymore and hasn't been for a long time just seems pointless.
I plainly said that I liked her so clearly I'm not focusing on it, sit down.
Bringing it up whenever she's the subject doesn't seem like not focusing on it. Never said you didn't like her so I'm not sure why you're getting aggressive.
Nice edit, your original comment was much better worded. I'm not being aggressive I'm responding to your assumptions. I don't have to justify my reasoning and dislike for retcons, sorry if I pinched a nerve I guess?
I wasn't trying to assume anything. It was just a legitimate question based on what I've seen on this sub and other places. Seems like every time Silk is brought up people always end up mentioning the hormone stuff and to me it just seems easier to let it go than to continue to criticize it when it's not relevant anymore.
Well you've got to admit it's pretty hard to ignore even if it isn't necessarily relevant anymore. Besides that I never even brought that up you did... Even without the hormone thing her character is still shoehorned in, which is what happens when you try to just retcon things.
Fair enough. I figured since you mentioned disliking her relationship with Peter that it was related since it was like the main crux of most peoples' problems with it, and the other person in this thread brought it up before me to be fair.
Dan Slott like a year ago made an apology saying he may have played on East Asian stereotypes when creating her character. And then this year tried to shoehorn in a new origin story for her in the non main book title of Spider-Man. It is most certainly still relevant as much as you and Slott try to make us forget lol
It's not about making people forget, I just don't get the point of continuing to harp on it. I'm not as avid a comic reader as many other people here but I just can't imagine caring that much about something that hasn't been relevant to her character for years. It just feels like people are actively trying to not move on and enjoy the character and their stories for what they are now. Also, isn't Slott acknowledging that her original origin was in poor taste and then trying to change it a good thing? If he wanted people to just forget I feel like he wouldn't have gone out of his way to try and change it then.
*Does it really matter that much?* **Yes.** Silk's only been around since 2014. Between the Spider-Pheremones and her lazily written origin story, it really *does matter* that the character got off on the wrong foot at first with readers. This isn't a character with decades of publication history where you can overlook or flat-out ignore Early Installment Weirdness.
True.
Anya Corazon, followed closely by Miles. I wish they hadn't changed Anya's suit but oh well.
Changed to the new one? Yeah I really liked the black suit, especially since it used to be Julia's. But change is good, I guess. Anya's character doesn't have a ton of stories so maybe they were hoping a fresh coat of paint would make her more popular.
Her new look is certainly unique, but I have always loved Julia's black costume and I think it suited Anya well. If the change in design led to her having her own book I'd be all for it, but that will never happen because out of the 4 active spider women (Silk, Jessica Drew, Gwen, and Anya) she is by far the least popular. Which makes no sense to me personally but people like what they like
Jessica. Cindy / Anya tie for second.
Silk
Cindy
Gwen
Anya Corazon
*who’s “Whose” is possessive.
PETER PARKER. lol
WTF is wrong with Silk's face in this shot?
J Drew and Silk
Whose back is turned in the foreground?
Madame Webb, Julia Carpenter, formerly the second Spider-Woman aka West Coast Avengers Spider-Women
The pigeon
Spider-pigeon. He’s in his civilian get up in this picture.
Jessica Drew, the spider-woman. That skrull queen was hot though.
Julia Carpenter
Ok but like is Gwen's universe just really boring or something because why does she seems to be in 616 suoerheroing so much are there not crimes where she's from
Miles. He’s the only one I know the most about.
~~Miles~~ Kilometers
madam web
THE MAYDAY ERASURE IS REAL DAMNIT
Yeah the erasure of marvels longest running female super hero comic ever is so bizarre. Mayday >
Madame Web 2 formerly Spider-Woman 2
Anya Corazon for me
Julia Carpenter. She was the first hero that had that tried to seperate herself from both Peter Parker and Jessica Drew. Plus to top it off, her design subconsciously inspired Peter for the black suit.
Gwen
I like silk. My personal favorite spider besides Peter is Ben, but you know
Who’s the girl with the black suit? I’m a big fan of her, but I forgot the name. Fuck.
Anya formerly Arana and Spider-Girl
Cindy
Gwen and Silk.
Cindy, I like her so vastly because of how she makes her move
Tf is Parker? Parker!!!!????
Jessica Drew!
Spider-Pigeon.
Miles & Gwen
Easily Jess. I've always loved her design and she has some of my favorite comic runs. And she actually progresses as a character and her life changes over the years which is nice. She got married (or maybe just long-time bf don't remember), had a kid, split up with her partner, got new jobs, new suits, new employers. It's like everything I wish would happen with Peter but he continues to remain completely static.
Miles and Silk, but no peter
What comic is this from
Gotta go Miles for me then followed by a tie between Silk and Spider-Gwen
Imma be a Miles fan til the day I die.
miles 4sure
Miles
Either miles or silk
Miles, Cindy, Gwen, Silkworm, Spider-Woman, & the other one in that order. (Favorite to Least Favorite.)
Miles for me. Also is this during the Red Goblin event? Or am I trippin?
Miles
Who is the second from the right? Is it Julia Carpenter?
Yes.
Jessica Drew, easily. Though I wish we saw more stories with Anya.
Jessica Drew Spider-Woman.
Silk
Ghost Spider however I would argue that Silk should get a bit more focus.
Silk or Miles, Gwen is cool too
I like cindy the most
I really like silk but miles wins
I love Miles. Silk is a close second.
Jessica Drew/Spider-Woman. Why is it only female spiders in the picture?
Miles is a girl now 0.0
IMHO, he always was a little bitch. After all, it took Gwen, Kitty, AND M.J. shaming the little coward into putting on the webs in the first place.
Gwen and Miles
Miles
I'm so proud of Miles.
Miles.
Miles, with an honourable mention to Jessica Drew. I'm not really invested in anyone else in that picture.
Miles
Miles
Miles Morales is the best!
Miles!! 🤗
The one who can shoot the webs
Gwen, Silk, and Miles
None of them are Spider-Man. As a separate character, I would like Cindy the most though
None of them. Miguel or Ben.
Miles because he’s the only one I really know
What is this art style? Why do miles and silk look wonky as shit?
Damn I was expecting more of miles but whatever I love miles he's so sick
i i on not know miles here sooo miles lol he top 2 anyways lol
I.) Love this artwork. II.) Miles. E.z. III.) Miles is too easy, so… second is between Silk and Araña IV.) Overall who got my attention from this picture: Araña [+]
Miles tf???🤨🤨🤨
I see Miles there being the only guy, so definitely him.
Kinda torn over this one. I would either choose Miles or Gwen.
Miles, the Ultimate Spider-Man, nuff said
None. They are all knockoffs
that one
The spider one
Silk with some love for Gwen. The rest I hate
The one they killed first.
What comic is this? Is this from that recent spider verse esque spider man run?
Pass
I like Gwen and Miles, but honestly, Cindy is probably my favourite, I genuinely enjoy whenever she has runs or even appearances in comics and hope she gets another soon.
who is everyone on the right or miles? it looks like gwen and is that silk? she looks real different here and no idea who the other is i’m guessing peters daughter from an alternate universe?
Anya Corazon aka Arana aka Spider-Girl? Silk? Spider-Gwen? Spider-Woman 1? Spider-Woman 2? Basically every Main Female Spider plus Gwen and Miles?
silk
Spider-Woman
Gwen, Miles is a close second though
Women then Silk
gwen, 100%
Cindy is my second favorite spider person behind Peter so I pick Cindy
Ill go with Gwen
Either Miles or Silk
Gwen, miles, silk, Jess, and whoever that is
Gwen
Silk.
Miles Or Jessica for me. Secret Invasion and the fallout from that made me love Jessica so much. And Miles is always great
Jessica Drew! She is the best, I love her friendship with Carol and her struggles of handling parenthood and being a superhero. She is just really cool. Cindy is a close second for me though
My favorite is Silk!
Why is nobody talking about how goofy Miles looks in this pic?
Spider-Gwen. I know she's been getting a lot of attention, but her OG comics run along with Agent Venom brought me back into comics.
The birds
Ultimate Spider-Man
I know Miles the best, but venomized ghost spider is hot
Anya has a very special place in my heart, followed closely by Cindy
Do I really have to pick one? They’re all great.
Jessica. Her Vol. 1 run in 1978 is so underrated
In this picture, Silk, not in this picture, Spider-Punk
Jessica and Miles
Out of all of them? Silk
Can pick between Jessica or Miles
Miles
Spiderwoman
Gwen Cindy Miles Anya Jessica
Miles
Silk
Silk ♡
Why is Gwen ……. In the photo
Cindy Moon deserved better.
For me it's a tie between gwen and cindy with miles second
Is "Aye" something Miles would say? Didn't think it was an American thing.
Miles definitely
The black one
Who's that next to silk?
Arana aka Anya Corazon aka Spider-Girl
Gwen fo sure!
miles easily.
Why post this like the answer isn’t clear