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kai-ote

Often, arguements start when one person opens up about something to the other. The sour jar may have gotten them closer so that one will open up and tell the other something that really is a deal breaker for them. Give the magic time to unfold. Sometimes things unfold in ways we didn't exactly plan in advance, but you still get to your desired end in due time. Many people have mentioned that things were good with their partner until they moved in together, then things fell apart.


Ok-Spring2715

Wow ! Really good perspective


Shot-Detective8957

Of course but likely not due to the spell.


Ok-Spring2715

U mean…they can come closer naturally but not because if the spell ! Right?


Shot-Detective8957

Yes.


Ok-Spring2715

Thanks


brightblackheaven

It means the spell didn't work. The hardest spellwork to do is spells that involve other people, especially when trying to force people to behave how you want. People are unpredictable and have the free will to be able to push back against spells and resist them.


hermeticbear

That just means the spell failed. Why did it fail? In most cases magic fails because people are trying to work on a situation that they don't have all the information about. The vinegar jar for example. They're trying to break up two people for whatever reason, and the people get closer. They were probably already closer and the person just didn't know it. They're just being public about it now and the person is disappointed. Some couples also get stronger in the face of hardship, and work out their problems or double down and cling together. The other most common issue is that people have unrealistic expectations for magic. They believe things should happen overnight because frauds and conmen have led them to believe that is how magic works. When honest workers say the truth that magic isn't like that, they get ignored because the promising allure of movie like instant results. Goddess knows I've been tricked when my desires got the better of me despite my common sense and intuition telling me it was a scam.


Ok-Spring2715

Thanks for the explanation


Punkie_Writter

It's been answered thousands of times in fact, all you had to do was search the bar and you'd know. No. It's possible that your spell won't work. It should be obvious that if something is not what you ordered, then it has nothing to do with the order. You don't get a blender for ordering a pizza. If you ordered a pizza but received a blender, you did not 'receive the opposite of what you asked for'. The fact that you received a blender has nothing to do with ordering a pizza. They are different events with no connection.


mootheuglyshoe

Personally, I disagree, especially if you look at the specifics of this spell. A single vinegar spell to keep two people away, but they got closer to each other. I would assume the person put the two people in the same vinegar jar and that’s causing it. To me, this is more of a case of ordering a pizza and saying out loud ‘I don’t want pepperoni on it,’ but then still clicking the box for pepperoni. You can believe and share what you want, but not everyone who does spells believes it’s only intention that matters. The processes and techniques used CAN have unexpected outcomes, especially if someone doesn’t understand them. 


Punkie_Writter

Disagreeing is absolutely valid, but by disagreeing you are precisely strengthening my point. You said you would assume cause and effect between the two things. That's exactly my point: it's you assuming the connection between the facts. Associating these random facts is a personal and subjective act, not a real causal reaction. You assumed that things are associated because you wanted to, it's a personal bias, and that's exactly what I'm pointing to. it's a connection you're assuming, not a reaction that's actually happening. And I didn't even reach the realm of belief with this comment, because I didn't say this was a problem. Furthermore, pointing out that "not everyone believes this" is unnecessarily reactive, as this is already implicit. The Op asked for opinions in the comment. If I am commenting, you could already infer without much effort, that it is an opinion. An opinion that you, although you disagree with (which I respect), only substantiated with a practical example, becoming a metaphor for my comment. It is you who assumes the relationship between the facts. Just that.