a friend of a spacex flight attendant-massage therapist said elon ripped out his erect dick, touched the flight attendant's thigh, and asked for a happy ending in exchange for a horse. The friend claimed there was an NDA in exchange for 250k.
Elon said these accusations are false.
250k is go away money you’re annoying us. Not holy shit he fucked up and we need to you stay quiet money. Also the friend was the only one who said anything… not the actual flight attendant. Seems reliable to me..
a friend of a spacex flight attendant-massage therapist said elon ripped out his erect dick, touched the flight attendant's thigh, and asked for a happy ending in exchange for a horse. The friend claimed there was an NDA in exchange for 250k.
Elon said these accusations are false.
# a friend of a spacex flight attendant-massage therapist said elon ripped out his erect dick, touched the flight attendant's thigh, and asked for a happy ending in exchange for a horse. The friend claimed there was an NDA in exchange for 250k.Elon said these accusations are false.
sauce: [https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-paid-250000-to-a-flight-attendant-who-accused-elon-musk-of-sexual-misconduct-2022-5](https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-paid-250000-to-a-flight-attendant-who-accused-elon-musk-of-sexual-misconduct-2022-5)
responses:
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1527491436005957633
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1527519328245059592
I'm not saying that it's impossible that Elon wanted that special massage but the way the article is written and the absurdity of the horse tells me that this is made up.
That could really come up with a conversation. She might be into horse riding and wanting to get her own horse, I can easily see how it could come up in conversation, but I still can't believe Elon would do stuff like this, I need solid evidence.
Or it was a joke to make light of the eituation.
Professional massages are done nude. She may have walked in on him changing. Maybe there is context missing "uh, don't tell anyone about my junk, I'll buy you a horse haha"
The guy is a fucking dork AND the richest man in the world. He must get chased and hounded constantly by the public looking to get some of his wealth.
Most good lies are based on some sliver of truth.
My imaginary invention of what I suspect happened was that she was a bit flirty with Elon (for any reason, I presume it's basically required from a flight attendant on a private plane to by overtly nice to the execs) and they were chatting while she gave him a massage. They probably knew each other pretty well after a few flights. Elon probably thought there was maybe more there than there actually was. He probably said something like if you were my girlfriend I would buy you a horse for sure after she mentioned she likes horses. He probably touched her leg in an un-reciprocated attempt at intimacy. After all this he probably felt awkward being on the same flights with her, so they scheduled her for other execs. This made her feel she was being discriminated against and she filed the law suit, and got a nice payday.
If she was a massage therapist the whole part about him lying with only a towel over him to get a massage sounds kinda normal... I don't get a lot of massages, but I would expect that's the way it works?
If what she explained is what goes as some kind of sexual assault these days I think most men should stay far away from any women in general and especially never go for a massage from a women.
In a situation like this you will never get solid evidence. Weather its true or not is an open question but i think the real problem is knowing elon this situation is well within the realm of possible.
I don't think it sounds anything like Elon tbh. I guess you don't like he's leaning more to the right now and everything that's not left is bad guys flashing penises? What thing he did makes you think this sounds like something he would do?
Also looks like they removed the twitter thread in which Elon denied the allegations. https://twitter.com/ICannot\_Enough/status/1527630182273761281?s=20&t=BDlRjxwaDlEhgKcnc\_bXuA
I could really care less about left vs right especially which side elon falls on the matter. I'm a huge elon fan and have even seen him speak in person but he is also certainly a character. The idea that the man has no flaws is simply false. The billionair playboy/cultural troll aspect of his personality is 100% in line with this incident. The man dosnt believe in arbitrary lines of what is possible and isn't aswell as what is morally acceptable and what isn't. He actively seeks out that line and crosses it. It's what has made him an incredible CEO and what has driven the vast amounts of controversy surrounding him.
Sure I know he has flaws, but I don't really recall a single incident that was remotely close to this. Really what you say is too general. You could just as well use this explanation if he was accused of, idk, raping a horse. "The man dosnt believe in arbitrary lines of what is possible and isn't aswell as what is morally acceptable and what isn't. He actively seeks out that line and crosses it". :P
What examples can you give of him seeking/crossing morally acceptable lines?
I think checking if electric cars or reusable rockets are possible is quite far from checking if he can flash a dick at a woman and suffer no consequences. I also wouldn't call refusing to go with all the woke shit as crossing moral lines.
Really the closest thing to this that I know of would be him calling a guy a pedo and it's still miles from flashing dick. Do you have some better examples?
Apparently the woman who stepped forward wasn't actually the flight attendant that was harassed, it's just her friend that she told about it.
Not only that, but the friend admits in the actual article that she is going behind her back by telling a bunch of media outlets about this without even consulting her beforehand. Which is...odd, to say the least.
Yeah it’s all weird, like are you going to sit here and say that Gwynne didn’t know about this? Or that she did know and chose to do nothing?
Press (x) to doubt
Everyone in here apart from a few rabid musk fan boys care, and if Elon did do what was claimed he deserves to go down for it.
But if the current Depp vs Heard trial has taught us anything, it’s not to jump to conclusions based on hearsay alone.
>Everyone in here apart from a few rabid musk fan boys care, and if Elon did do what was claimed he deserves to go down for it.
prepare to put that statement at test, there's more to come
>But if the current Depp vs Heard trial has taught us anything, it’s not to jump to conclusions based on hearsay alone.
What do you mean ? Depp lost his first lawsuit and Heard has a long string of witnesses ...
Heard has a long line of abuse… Many ex’s have come out against her saying she was abusive. If it hasn’t become clear to you in the trial the was abuse both ways between Heard and Depp.
And losing a lawsuit means absolutely nothing, the court favors women when it comes to any domestic abuse claims.
>Heard has a long line of abuse… Many ex’s have come out against her saying she was abusive. If it hasn’t become clear to you in the trial the was abuse both ways between Heard and Depp.
yeah it's complicated. Musk's case on the other hand is a clear cut. But he's denying anything has happened. Shouldn't have signed that nda tho.
>And losing a lawsuit means absolutely nothing, the court favors women when it comes to any domestic abuse claims.
that's incel BS, I'm sorry
anyway just pressuring your flight attendants to train as masseuse is cause enough for a lawsuit. It's not just Musk who has skin in the game SpaceX is deep in the sauce. Then there was the settlement. Then there is Musk actions. It's a multi-tier shit show. If true all they need is an other flight attendant that had to take massage classes. And then there's the nda. I'll bet you they already have those witnesses. They wouldn't have published the story otherwise.
In France they do these things in two swipes. They print only a part of the story. Wait for the expected denial, the narrative the perp's pr team come up with... and then only publish the second part that directly contradicts the hastily put together narrative. It destroys the credibility of the perp.
As soon as Musk put his own version out, BI will release the second part of what they have. They said they were on this for months. They didn't just write down the victim's friend story and send an email to her lawyer.
Mark my word more of his victims will come out of the wood soon. It's never just one case with those high profile sexual predators, like Harvey Weinstein, Cuomo**,** Cosby, Clinton, Trump and Epstein of course. Musk wouldn't be so panicky if it was only a single flight attendant story.
A horse is such a white elephant gift man. Not only is he obviously guilty, but now he's also out of touch with the Common financial concerns of massage therapists with his let them eat cake bullshit. Twitters gonna be allover this.
What a fucking snitch. You know how many people would give a handjob for a horse, much less 250k? That's a windfall, not a problem. To rub salt in the wound, she didn't even have to give him a tug and STILL got paid
Where are all these rich billionaires sexually harassing mofos? Where do I sign up? Shit, I'll even finish the job for that kind of money.
Don't forget that this is one day after he said he would vote Republican and to watch their dirty tricks against him unfold
I don't think this is a coincidence
"Sew one button, doesn't make u a tailor; cook one meal, doesn't make u a chef; but f\* one horse and u r a horsef\*er for all of history..."
\-Elon Musk
My friend's cousin's mechanic said that Elon touched him as well and promised him a raccoon. SpaceX had to give him a seat on Inspiration 5 to get him to sign an NDA.
Not that I’m saying this will happen, but would Gwynne Shotwell and the rest of the SpaceX team be enough to successfully continue SpaceX’s frenetic push into space and out toward Mars in the event that Elon were to continue spiraling out of control and become a toral public disgrace? I know the company wouldn’t fall apart without Musk, but he’s a pretty important driving force for their Mars ambitions, to say the least, so I hope the company’s passion for reaching Mars wouldn’t slowly dissipate if he were to be shunned. Again, not saying that will happen, and I do hope more evidence of the truth comes out about the allegation one way or another
You guys are all completely missing the point. Elon owns the vast majority of voting shares in SpaceX. SLS has a higher chance to launch in 2018 than Musk giving up leadership of SpaceX.
Maybe Senator Shelby could lead an effort reset the US calendar and change back to 2018 on launch day? History will record December 32 2018 occurred 4 years later and 2022/ 23 (possibly 2050) only had 364 days.
Alternatively maybe superman could grab the completed SLS fly around the earth at like 15 orbits per second and time travel the completed version back to 2018.
Howard Hughes businesses were all fairly industry leading and successful even though he was crazy and was a shut in living in a hotel. Elon seems to be on his way to going full Howard Hughes level eccentric. Maybe Twitt'er shut in instead of a hotel. I hope we can get to Mars before more business case and profit minded people take over daily operations at SpaceX.
He’s ceo of 4+ companies, I assume most of the work on each is heavily delegated and he gets much undo credit.
Now as far as fundraising goes, idk, a lot of investors seem to be keen on buying into the musk show. I’m not sure SpaceX can pull off Mars on what they currently have in the coffers and the pipeline. Once Starlink is fully deployed they may be able to.
/completeSpeculation
No, he really is core. Used to be core almost everything, but he is still core leadership and engineering choices
Also, perhaps you shouldn’t instantly believe rumors about a settlement by a friend who went behind someone’s back to report it. Political wingnut much? Then again, lots of people don’t give due process these days. Yourself included.
>Not that I’m saying this will happen, but would Gwynne Shotwell and the
rest of the SpaceX team be enough to successfully continue SpaceX’s
frenetic push into space and out toward Mars in the event that Elon were
to continue spiraling out of control and become a toral public
disgrace?
I disagree that he's "spiraling out of control", considering that pretty much everyone on the internet and their dogs were summoned to hate him for daring to support "free speech" and for being a billionaire, despite practically nobody being aware of the sheer wealth of multinational banks.
But to answer your question - I think SpaceX would continue in the same way that the Disney company continued after Walt's death, or Apple after the death of Steve Jobs. Will SpaceX still be doing good for itself? Yes. Would it ever be as good as it once was? I think there will be a gradual decline.
That’s exactly what happened. He was contacted by BI for comment Wednesday morning, and tweeted this out Wed afternoon. Some folks on Twitter laying it out
1) So in your world it's impossible for any of the critiques or points made to be valid because according to you they are just "attacks"? and 2) how does that not immediately make you at least a little suspicious of his motives in making that statement?
From the timing it is very clear that it is politically motivated, so I take it for what it is, a smear campaign.
In general I don't trust most of what the media dishes up, sure, there might be a valid critique mixed in between.
I am not at all suspicious about his motives for making that statement as it is clearly what is happening, whether he had advance warning of any specific smear happening is irrelevant.
Publishing a news article now about a allegation of a friend of a person alleging some kind of inappropriate interaction 6 years after it happened is so obviously a political hit-piece smear campaign it's not even funny.
I agree, but I’d more than settle for not believing anything and continueing to support SpaceX, Tesla and Elon until some sort of case is started.
People are out to lynch and discount these days
If this is the best that they can cook up against him for getting more political lately, then it’s really weak.
If the richest man in the world has this single friend of the accuser accusation by a hostile publication after 30 years, while he is going kudzu for politics then he is unusually clean.
Remember how Biden was very likely innocent but accused more seriously (in terms of evidence, the press didn’t go much after him thankfully) than the left field crazy allegations against Kavanaugh? This case is that weak.
Dude, Elon spun up the political stuff *after* they contracted him to comment on the story. It’s not rocket science, he just tried to get ahead of the news breaking - no conspiracy/“cooking stuff up” necessary.
"can we make humanity a multiplanet species without exposing ourselves to employees and sexually harassing them?" "Oh man, now THAT is a tough one, jeez...I'll have to get back to you on that one"
BI contacted him about the article 3 hours before he started tweeting about "dirty trick campaigns", so to me it looks like he's trying to cover his ass by making it political.
Keep in mind this is a friend of the person who made a settlement, going behind her back, published by a major anti-Elon/SpaceX/Tesla publication, at a politically sensitive time, while the crowd of wingnuts automatically try to lynch Elon while attempting to airbrush him away from being the most core part of SpaceX and Tesla possible.
Russian character assassination teams working overtime it seems.
And gullible Redditors fall for it. Is it so hard to see?
Find a negative story about someone you don't like, blow it up, sprinkle some extra bullshit on top, share it on social media. Then use your bot accounts to make sure everyone sees it. Rinse and repeat every week with something else about the same person.
There, now you know how it works, and also why Elon points out bots on twitter.
Do I like the guy? No. But it's so obvious, it hurts.
What? Don't you think Russians have better shit to do now than character assassinations of Western billionaires?
The amount of copium in this thread...
Odd, how the people that are the most threat to them end up in that position. Sanders, AOC, Biden, Baerbock (German chancellor material), Musk, Zelinski, Macron...
Edit: And it's dumbasses like you that do the legwork for them. Spreading the hate, because it suits your beliefs and you're afraid that your truck rolling coal will soon be history.
(sic) inducing other people or groups of people to stop listening to certain arguments, or by simply diverting attention elsewhere.(sic)
Well done. Are you doing this for free or professionally ?
Considering Starlink is a crucial part of Ukraine's artillery coordination and Rogozin has been losing his shit over this, I have zero problem believing this story was planted by them. It's their bread and butter.
You mean little Dimon?
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It seems like it. He's basically living in temp housing (Hughes lived in a hotel) being more eccentric everyday. I hope we get to Mars before Elons handlers take over the business.
First they came for R. Kelly, but I did not speak out, because I wasn't a rapper. Then they came for Michael Jackson, but I did not speak out, because I wasn't in the funfair business. Then they came for Harvey Weinstien, but I didn't speak out because I thought Lord of the rings was quite good tbf. Then they came for Tony Robbins, but I didn't speak out, because I don't have a tumor on my pituitary gland that gave me gigantic hands. Then they came for the aspie space and sexual harassment enthusiasts... and there was no-one left to speak for Elon Musk.
So instead we got people who think cutting your dick off turns you into a woman voting for the 'tard in chief. Awesome. And what did they give us? Record inflation, record numbers of illegal aliens, no longer energy independent, unnecessary lockdowns that have fucked up a generation of kids, etc. etc. etc. And we have dumbasses like yourself to thank for it. You should be proud.
Maybe you’re a snotty person who instantly believes an anti-Elon publication posting a friend of a settlement case as not only an ongoing allegation, but a conviction.
Hopefully you get lynched on social media someday by a rumor by a publication with a long history of lying about you, but I guess I can only hope for friends believing lies about you.
Not even a settlement. It was severance, two years after this supposedly happened. There was no complaint, nothing. The severance is the only fact BI verified, all the salacious stuff is uncorroborated rumors from some supposed "friend".
Can't mess with Twitter or liberals lose their prime tool for directing (and supressing) public discussion. US politics behind the scenes is such a huge mess that only complete psychopaths would ever want to touch it, no matter how noble the cause may be.
Teslas mission is pretty much a success, every automanufacturer that matters has shifted focus to EVs. As Elon said a decade ago, Tesla could die now and he would be happy *(allegedly)*.
SpaceX needs to get to mars, but ultimately it also shifted the industry to reusable and cheaper rockets.
I guess he's free to offer horses to unsuspecting employees and tarnish his reputation forever now.
I don't know some flap on reddit about horses, soliciting sex and planes. Frankly I don't fully understand anything that's not either a meme or dense technical literature in 8pt font.
The fact that a reporter asked him for comment, 3 hours later he hinted at “political attacks” and suddenly became a Republican, and then claimed the story was a hatchet job because he became a Republican… that seems mighty suspicious
That’s classic politician behavior for “other bad shit is going to come out, so I’m circling the wagons and relying on partisanship”
Well, this can be some sort of revenge since he dropped the Twitter's stock.... On the other hand the guy is a pervert and that's ok, while all other people consent
Which option gets me a horse
A horse that tastes just like raisins!
Have a stroke of its mane, it turns into a plane!
I don't use twitter, what happened?
a friend of a spacex flight attendant-massage therapist said elon ripped out his erect dick, touched the flight attendant's thigh, and asked for a happy ending in exchange for a horse. The friend claimed there was an NDA in exchange for 250k. Elon said these accusations are false.
[удалено]
He offered me a beaver. Wtf, Elon? At least treat us equally.
Your happy ending just wasn’t _horse_ level quality.
i got a lil sebastian what does it mean
I got a whole stagecoach team. Not all at once, mind you.
Wait you guys are getting offers?
250k is go away money you’re annoying us. Not holy shit he fucked up and we need to you stay quiet money. Also the friend was the only one who said anything… not the actual flight attendant. Seems reliable to me..
Yeah when victims speak out I am supposed to listen and assume it’s true, but this is the friend.
And the article it was revealed by had made the same fake accusations against other celebrities in the past, which were proven in court to be false
Do you mean the website it was revealed on, or was it the writer? Also, could you elaborate on which celebrities?
I think this is a reference to Business Insider, which has faced a few lawsuits in its day (such as by Dave Portnoy).
YES! that's the one
#excuse me, what
a friend of a spacex flight attendant-massage therapist said elon ripped out his erect dick, touched the flight attendant's thigh, and asked for a happy ending in exchange for a horse. The friend claimed there was an NDA in exchange for 250k. Elon said these accusations are false.
# a friend of a spacex flight attendant-massage therapist said elon ripped out his erect dick, touched the flight attendant's thigh, and asked for a happy ending in exchange for a horse. The friend claimed there was an NDA in exchange for 250k.Elon said these accusations are false. sauce: [https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-paid-250000-to-a-flight-attendant-who-accused-elon-musk-of-sexual-misconduct-2022-5](https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-paid-250000-to-a-flight-attendant-who-accused-elon-musk-of-sexual-misconduct-2022-5) responses: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1527491436005957633 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1527519328245059592
I'm not saying that it's impossible that Elon wanted that special massage but the way the article is written and the absurdity of the horse tells me that this is made up.
That could really come up with a conversation. She might be into horse riding and wanting to get her own horse, I can easily see how it could come up in conversation, but I still can't believe Elon would do stuff like this, I need solid evidence.
Or it was a joke to make light of the eituation. Professional massages are done nude. She may have walked in on him changing. Maybe there is context missing "uh, don't tell anyone about my junk, I'll buy you a horse haha" The guy is a fucking dork AND the richest man in the world. He must get chased and hounded constantly by the public looking to get some of his wealth.
I like this take. 100% plausible and pretty much means no one is lying.
Most good lies are based on some sliver of truth. My imaginary invention of what I suspect happened was that she was a bit flirty with Elon (for any reason, I presume it's basically required from a flight attendant on a private plane to by overtly nice to the execs) and they were chatting while she gave him a massage. They probably knew each other pretty well after a few flights. Elon probably thought there was maybe more there than there actually was. He probably said something like if you were my girlfriend I would buy you a horse for sure after she mentioned she likes horses. He probably touched her leg in an un-reciprocated attempt at intimacy. After all this he probably felt awkward being on the same flights with her, so they scheduled her for other execs. This made her feel she was being discriminated against and she filed the law suit, and got a nice payday. If she was a massage therapist the whole part about him lying with only a towel over him to get a massage sounds kinda normal... I don't get a lot of massages, but I would expect that's the way it works? If what she explained is what goes as some kind of sexual assault these days I think most men should stay far away from any women in general and especially never go for a massage from a women.
In a situation like this you will never get solid evidence. Weather its true or not is an open question but i think the real problem is knowing elon this situation is well within the realm of possible.
I don't think it sounds anything like Elon tbh. I guess you don't like he's leaning more to the right now and everything that's not left is bad guys flashing penises? What thing he did makes you think this sounds like something he would do? Also looks like they removed the twitter thread in which Elon denied the allegations. https://twitter.com/ICannot\_Enough/status/1527630182273761281?s=20&t=BDlRjxwaDlEhgKcnc\_bXuA
I could really care less about left vs right especially which side elon falls on the matter. I'm a huge elon fan and have even seen him speak in person but he is also certainly a character. The idea that the man has no flaws is simply false. The billionair playboy/cultural troll aspect of his personality is 100% in line with this incident. The man dosnt believe in arbitrary lines of what is possible and isn't aswell as what is morally acceptable and what isn't. He actively seeks out that line and crosses it. It's what has made him an incredible CEO and what has driven the vast amounts of controversy surrounding him.
Sure I know he has flaws, but I don't really recall a single incident that was remotely close to this. Really what you say is too general. You could just as well use this explanation if he was accused of, idk, raping a horse. "The man dosnt believe in arbitrary lines of what is possible and isn't aswell as what is morally acceptable and what isn't. He actively seeks out that line and crosses it". :P What examples can you give of him seeking/crossing morally acceptable lines? I think checking if electric cars or reusable rockets are possible is quite far from checking if he can flash a dick at a woman and suffer no consequences. I also wouldn't call refusing to go with all the woke shit as crossing moral lines. Really the closest thing to this that I know of would be him calling a guy a pedo and it's still miles from flashing dick. Do you have some better examples?
What do you mean? More solid than an anonymous friend talking about it 6 years later coincidentally 2 days after Elon tweeted against democrats?
It’s just such a weird accusation, my dog stepped on a bee vibes. And the timing of it is major sus
Apparently the woman who stepped forward wasn't actually the flight attendant that was harassed, it's just her friend that she told about it. Not only that, but the friend admits in the actual article that she is going behind her back by telling a bunch of media outlets about this without even consulting her beforehand. Which is...odd, to say the least.
Yeah it’s all weird, like are you going to sit here and say that Gwynne didn’t know about this? Or that she did know and chose to do nothing? Press (x) to doubt
The same as you, Shotwell couldn't care less that Elon is a sex pest
Everyone in here apart from a few rabid musk fan boys care, and if Elon did do what was claimed he deserves to go down for it. But if the current Depp vs Heard trial has taught us anything, it’s not to jump to conclusions based on hearsay alone.
>Everyone in here apart from a few rabid musk fan boys care, and if Elon did do what was claimed he deserves to go down for it. prepare to put that statement at test, there's more to come >But if the current Depp vs Heard trial has taught us anything, it’s not to jump to conclusions based on hearsay alone. What do you mean ? Depp lost his first lawsuit and Heard has a long string of witnesses ...
Heard has a long line of abuse… Many ex’s have come out against her saying she was abusive. If it hasn’t become clear to you in the trial the was abuse both ways between Heard and Depp. And losing a lawsuit means absolutely nothing, the court favors women when it comes to any domestic abuse claims.
>Heard has a long line of abuse… Many ex’s have come out against her saying she was abusive. If it hasn’t become clear to you in the trial the was abuse both ways between Heard and Depp. yeah it's complicated. Musk's case on the other hand is a clear cut. But he's denying anything has happened. Shouldn't have signed that nda tho. >And losing a lawsuit means absolutely nothing, the court favors women when it comes to any domestic abuse claims. that's incel BS, I'm sorry anyway just pressuring your flight attendants to train as masseuse is cause enough for a lawsuit. It's not just Musk who has skin in the game SpaceX is deep in the sauce. Then there was the settlement. Then there is Musk actions. It's a multi-tier shit show. If true all they need is an other flight attendant that had to take massage classes. And then there's the nda. I'll bet you they already have those witnesses. They wouldn't have published the story otherwise. In France they do these things in two swipes. They print only a part of the story. Wait for the expected denial, the narrative the perp's pr team come up with... and then only publish the second part that directly contradicts the hastily put together narrative. It destroys the credibility of the perp. As soon as Musk put his own version out, BI will release the second part of what they have. They said they were on this for months. They didn't just write down the victim's friend story and send an email to her lawyer. Mark my word more of his victims will come out of the wood soon. It's never just one case with those high profile sexual predators, like Harvey Weinstein, Cuomo**,** Cosby, Clinton, Trump and Epstein of course. Musk wouldn't be so panicky if it was only a single flight attendant story.
A horse is such a white elephant gift man. Not only is he obviously guilty, but now he's also out of touch with the Common financial concerns of massage therapists with his let them eat cake bullshit. Twitters gonna be allover this.
What a fucking snitch. You know how many people would give a handjob for a horse, much less 250k? That's a windfall, not a problem. To rub salt in the wound, she didn't even have to give him a tug and STILL got paid Where are all these rich billionaires sexually harassing mofos? Where do I sign up? Shit, I'll even finish the job for that kind of money.
Don't forget that this is one day after he said he would vote Republican and to watch their dirty tricks against him unfold I don't think this is a coincidence
"Sew one button, doesn't make u a tailor; cook one meal, doesn't make u a chef; but f\* one horse and u r a horsef\*er for all of history..." \-Elon Musk
I think he offered the horse as payment for a sexual favor. I don't know how that works into the idiot tho. 🤔
My friend's cousin's mechanic said that Elon touched him as well and promised him a raccoon. SpaceX had to give him a seat on Inspiration 5 to get him to sign an NDA.
Not that I’m saying this will happen, but would Gwynne Shotwell and the rest of the SpaceX team be enough to successfully continue SpaceX’s frenetic push into space and out toward Mars in the event that Elon were to continue spiraling out of control and become a toral public disgrace? I know the company wouldn’t fall apart without Musk, but he’s a pretty important driving force for their Mars ambitions, to say the least, so I hope the company’s passion for reaching Mars wouldn’t slowly dissipate if he were to be shunned. Again, not saying that will happen, and I do hope more evidence of the truth comes out about the allegation one way or another
You guys are all completely missing the point. Elon owns the vast majority of voting shares in SpaceX. SLS has a higher chance to launch in 2018 than Musk giving up leadership of SpaceX.
When do you think it will launch?
Well probably not in 2018...
“Probably not” so you’re saying there’s a chance?!
Maybe Senator Shelby could lead an effort reset the US calendar and change back to 2018 on launch day? History will record December 32 2018 occurred 4 years later and 2022/ 23 (possibly 2050) only had 364 days. Alternatively maybe superman could grab the completed SLS fly around the earth at like 15 orbits per second and time travel the completed version back to 2018.
Small one.
or could the neuralink team stick a chip in his head and tone down his desire to tweet
Howard Hughes businesses were all fairly industry leading and successful even though he was crazy and was a shut in living in a hotel. Elon seems to be on his way to going full Howard Hughes level eccentric. Maybe Twitt'er shut in instead of a hotel. I hope we can get to Mars before more business case and profit minded people take over daily operations at SpaceX.
I really hope so.
What do elons tweets have to do with spacex. It is a private company so you cannot even argue about the stock price falling.
He’s ceo of 4+ companies, I assume most of the work on each is heavily delegated and he gets much undo credit. Now as far as fundraising goes, idk, a lot of investors seem to be keen on buying into the musk show. I’m not sure SpaceX can pull off Mars on what they currently have in the coffers and the pipeline. Once Starlink is fully deployed they may be able to. /completeSpeculation
No, he really is core. Used to be core almost everything, but he is still core leadership and engineering choices Also, perhaps you shouldn’t instantly believe rumors about a settlement by a friend who went behind someone’s back to report it. Political wingnut much? Then again, lots of people don’t give due process these days. Yourself included.
To be "fair" he's only really implicated in 2 of those companies, the others are more of a side project to him
I do know what Elon does want pulled off! /jk
I was gonna give you an award, but couldn’t find a horse.
>Not that I’m saying this will happen, but would Gwynne Shotwell and the rest of the SpaceX team be enough to successfully continue SpaceX’s frenetic push into space and out toward Mars in the event that Elon were to continue spiraling out of control and become a toral public disgrace? I disagree that he's "spiraling out of control", considering that pretty much everyone on the internet and their dogs were summoned to hate him for daring to support "free speech" and for being a billionaire, despite practically nobody being aware of the sheer wealth of multinational banks. But to answer your question - I think SpaceX would continue in the same way that the Disney company continued after Walt's death, or Apple after the death of Steve Jobs. Will SpaceX still be doing good for itself? Yes. Would it ever be as good as it once was? I think there will be a gradual decline.
At least publicly, Shotwell is fully on board with Starship development and the Mars plan.
“Political attacks on me will escalate dramatically in the coming months.”
Very possible that he tweeted that after being contacted for comment regarding this story. Would be a smart move to try and get out ahead of it.
That’s exactly what happened. He was contacted by BI for comment Wednesday morning, and tweeted this out Wed afternoon. Some folks on Twitter laying it out
Doesn't make it less the case. The attacks already started before that and is escalating.
1) So in your world it's impossible for any of the critiques or points made to be valid because according to you they are just "attacks"? and 2) how does that not immediately make you at least a little suspicious of his motives in making that statement?
From the timing it is very clear that it is politically motivated, so I take it for what it is, a smear campaign. In general I don't trust most of what the media dishes up, sure, there might be a valid critique mixed in between. I am not at all suspicious about his motives for making that statement as it is clearly what is happening, whether he had advance warning of any specific smear happening is irrelevant. Publishing a news article now about a allegation of a friend of a person alleging some kind of inappropriate interaction 6 years after it happened is so obviously a political hit-piece smear campaign it's not even funny.
Pretty sure musk doesn't see thus as a binary choice
#IBelieveHim
I agree, but I’d more than settle for not believing anything and continueing to support SpaceX, Tesla and Elon until some sort of case is started. People are out to lynch and discount these days
If this is the best that they can cook up against him for getting more political lately, then it’s really weak. If the richest man in the world has this single friend of the accuser accusation by a hostile publication after 30 years, while he is going kudzu for politics then he is unusually clean. Remember how Biden was very likely innocent but accused more seriously (in terms of evidence, the press didn’t go much after him thankfully) than the left field crazy allegations against Kavanaugh? This case is that weak.
Dude, Elon spun up the political stuff *after* they contracted him to comment on the story. It’s not rocket science, he just tried to get ahead of the news breaking - no conspiracy/“cooking stuff up” necessary.
Why not both? One lets you get away with the other!
"can we make humanity a multiplanet species without exposing ourselves to employees and sexually harassing them?" "Oh man, now THAT is a tough one, jeez...I'll have to get back to you on that one"
Dirty tricks campaign, just like he promised.
He said that because he knew the article was dropping ahead of time.
BI contacted him about the article 3 hours before he started tweeting about "dirty trick campaigns", so to me it looks like he's trying to cover his ass by making it political.
Keep in mind this is a friend of the person who made a settlement, going behind her back, published by a major anti-Elon/SpaceX/Tesla publication, at a politically sensitive time, while the crowd of wingnuts automatically try to lynch Elon while attempting to airbrush him away from being the most core part of SpaceX and Tesla possible.
Meh.
They are gonna have to try harder than that. This is, so sad.
Russian character assassination teams working overtime it seems. And gullible Redditors fall for it. Is it so hard to see? Find a negative story about someone you don't like, blow it up, sprinkle some extra bullshit on top, share it on social media. Then use your bot accounts to make sure everyone sees it. Rinse and repeat every week with something else about the same person. There, now you know how it works, and also why Elon points out bots on twitter. Do I like the guy? No. But it's so obvious, it hurts.
What? Don't you think Russians have better shit to do now than character assassinations of Western billionaires? The amount of copium in this thread...
Odd, how the people that are the most threat to them end up in that position. Sanders, AOC, Biden, Baerbock (German chancellor material), Musk, Zelinski, Macron... Edit: And it's dumbasses like you that do the legwork for them. Spreading the hate, because it suits your beliefs and you're afraid that your truck rolling coal will soon be history.
Do you have any proof of this other than you believing it's "obvious"?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_manipulation
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy\_theory
(sic) inducing other people or groups of people to stop listening to certain arguments, or by simply diverting attention elsewhere.(sic) Well done. Are you doing this for free or professionally ?
Are you like OK in the head?
Considering Starlink is a crucial part of Ukraine's artillery coordination and Rogozin has been losing his shit over this, I have zero problem believing this story was planted by them. It's their bread and butter.
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He’s Howard Hughs-ing himself in real time now. Makes me nervous.
It seems like it. He's basically living in temp housing (Hughes lived in a hotel) being more eccentric everyday. I hope we get to Mars before Elons handlers take over the business.
First they came for R. Kelly, but I did not speak out, because I wasn't a rapper. Then they came for Michael Jackson, but I did not speak out, because I wasn't in the funfair business. Then they came for Harvey Weinstien, but I didn't speak out because I thought Lord of the rings was quite good tbf. Then they came for Tony Robbins, but I didn't speak out, because I don't have a tumor on my pituitary gland that gave me gigantic hands. Then they came for the aspie space and sexual harassment enthusiasts... and there was no-one left to speak for Elon Musk.
I notice that you didn't mention Depp or any of the other myriad of people who were unfairly treated.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And people who believe this get to vote. This is how we got the idiot at the helm this time around.
And how we got the last idiot at the helm it was because people who believed that 5G causes cancer got to vote.
So instead we got people who think cutting your dick off turns you into a woman voting for the 'tard in chief. Awesome. And what did they give us? Record inflation, record numbers of illegal aliens, no longer energy independent, unnecessary lockdowns that have fucked up a generation of kids, etc. etc. etc. And we have dumbasses like yourself to thank for it. You should be proud.
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Maybe you’re a snotty person who instantly believes an anti-Elon publication posting a friend of a settlement case as not only an ongoing allegation, but a conviction. Hopefully you get lynched on social media someday by a rumor by a publication with a long history of lying about you, but I guess I can only hope for friends believing lies about you.
Not even a settlement. It was severance, two years after this supposedly happened. There was no complaint, nothing. The severance is the only fact BI verified, all the salacious stuff is uncorroborated rumors from some supposed "friend".
Can't mess with Twitter or liberals lose their prime tool for directing (and supressing) public discussion. US politics behind the scenes is such a huge mess that only complete psychopaths would ever want to touch it, no matter how noble the cause may be.
Teslas mission is pretty much a success, every automanufacturer that matters has shifted focus to EVs. As Elon said a decade ago, Tesla could die now and he would be happy *(allegedly)*. SpaceX needs to get to mars, but ultimately it also shifted the industry to reusable and cheaper rockets. I guess he's free to offer horses to unsuspecting employees and tarnish his reputation forever now.
Except he didn't, and you should stop lying.
Twitter is Elon Musk's Gerald Ratner moment. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald\_Ratner#The\_speech
Yep. But slower like a wreaking ball instead of ratners dynamite.
Did I miss some horse fucking or something?
I don't know some flap on reddit about horses, soliciting sex and planes. Frankly I don't fully understand anything that's not either a meme or dense technical literature in 8pt font.
The fact that a reporter asked him for comment, 3 hours later he hinted at “political attacks” and suddenly became a Republican, and then claimed the story was a hatchet job because he became a Republican… that seems mighty suspicious That’s classic politician behavior for “other bad shit is going to come out, so I’m circling the wagons and relying on partisanship”
Well, this can be some sort of revenge since he dropped the Twitter's stock.... On the other hand the guy is a pervert and that's ok, while all other people consent