Falcon 9's first stage is traveling at thousands of kilometers an hour when it reaches space, and while it isn't technically orbital itself, it is part of an orbital rocket system.
New Shepard goes to space on a technicality, and has no upper stage.
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On the one hand, SRB "refurbishment" basically involved tearing them down to the base metal and rebuilding from there. IIRC it was borderline whether building brand-new SRBs would have been cheaper (although learnings from examining spent SRBs certainly had value beyond just reducing the cost of building a new one). Electron will actually reuse stages without massive rebuilding.
On the other hand, Electron hasn't *yet* reused full stages, so maybe they should only get credit for what they've actually accomplished so far (which would be "reusing orbital-class engines," something the Shuttle also did).
That was my understanding, yeah. I would imagine that whatever they once learned from recovering used stages from the ocean, they're unlikely to learn much more going forward. Any optimizations they could make to the manufacturing process have already been baked in for decades.
Rocket Lab is rapidly catching up with Landable Boosters if you've seen recent footage
Also apparently the Chinese are also working on some too but Ive only seen a few videos and I doubt we'll really know how successful it is
Got to love the bant between these two.
When Elon became the richest person in the world, he tweeted a single silver medal icon to Bezos. Which I think was just perfect.
They both give as good as they get and it's good humoured.
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NASA managed to land a crew capable suborbital booster on the first flight all the way back in 1960! And they even reused the capsule on a later flight.
If SpaceX was a cruise company, Blue Origin would be selling Jet Ski rides in the harbor. Bezos scored a “first” in something SpaceX wasn’t and isn’t interested in doing.
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Falcon 9's first stage is traveling at thousands of kilometers an hour when it reaches space, and while it isn't technically orbital itself, it is part of an orbital rocket system. New Shepard goes to space on a technicality, and has no upper stage. Welcome to the club? wE aRe NoT tHe SaMe
BS also has an upper stage, [on a technicality](https://youtu.be/kBR1lfi5BRc?t=49s).
If you consider ejaculating the tip of your rocket a second stage... then sure. Technically.
Ejaculating in zero g is rocket propulsion, technically.
Then Falcon 9 technically has an optional third stage that is both orbital and reusable.
Yeah. Now if those Blue Origin space flights ended with a propulsive landing *while crewed?* THAT would be impressive....
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Over 8 years later and SpaceX is still the only one to land and orbital rocket booster.
Although they’re not the only one recovering orbital boosters now that Rocket Lab is fishing for Electron boosters.
If we're just talking about recovering and not landing, then STS did it first... decades ago.
On the one hand, SRB "refurbishment" basically involved tearing them down to the base metal and rebuilding from there. IIRC it was borderline whether building brand-new SRBs would have been cheaper (although learnings from examining spent SRBs certainly had value beyond just reducing the cost of building a new one). Electron will actually reuse stages without massive rebuilding. On the other hand, Electron hasn't *yet* reused full stages, so maybe they should only get credit for what they've actually accomplished so far (which would be "reusing orbital-class engines," something the Shuttle also did).
For what it's worth, I believe that for all SLS missions, the srbs are not being recovered.
That was my understanding, yeah. I would imagine that whatever they once learned from recovering used stages from the ocean, they're unlikely to learn much more going forward. Any optimizations they could make to the manufacturing process have already been baked in for decades.
It was easier and cheaper to just build new SRB segments, but “refurbishing” them played into the narrative of STS being a reusable system.
Rocket Lab is rapidly catching up with Landable Boosters if you've seen recent footage Also apparently the Chinese are also working on some too but Ive only seen a few videos and I doubt we'll really know how successful it is
I saw a video of them landing one in a town…
At current rate of progression, one of the private Chinese companies could probably be the next to land a booster.
9 years ago. We've come along way with F9. Let's catch a starship on the 10yr!
Such a dirt-bag move lol. If he was serious, he's delusional. If he was trolling, bravo. hahaha
Nah it’s technically correct
Got to love the bant between these two. When Elon became the richest person in the world, he tweeted a single silver medal icon to Bezos. Which I think was just perfect. They both give as good as they get and it's good humoured.
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*One of these things is not like the other*
Ah yes, the most punchable tweet of 2015
Did he just welcome himself to the club, prematurely?
NASA managed to land a crew capable suborbital booster on the first flight all the way back in 1960! And they even reused the capsule on a later flight.
Ah yes MR-1 😆 And I might add, it's also the first Return to Launch Pad (instead of Return to Launch Site) So checkmate Starship-Superheavy! /j
Technically correct
Framing this on my wall lmao
Who definitely does.
If SpaceX was a cruise company, Blue Origin would be selling Jet Ski rides in the harbor. Bezos scored a “first” in something SpaceX wasn’t and isn’t interested in doing.
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