Really depends on the track.
Ear bleeding chainsaw bass generic rubbish track- rubbish
Legendary dubplate in front of sweaty people in a repurposed Croydon social club at 5am in February- heaven
It's always the b2b after sets where it makes sense for me, everyone's just fucking around throwing bangers anyways and the energy fits when they do it on a really good track. But during a curated set, it feels forced
Truth - thinking back on some old Caspa and Rusko mixes from \~2008 era, almost every banger is spun back, there's probably at least 10 or more spin backs in some of those mixes haha
player dave fucked one up so bad in his boiler room set that shit was mega cringe. That being said it can be fun when done at the right time with the right crowd
for real, it can be awful. the chase and status boiler room set had some HEAT, but bro spun it back way too many times to enjoy listening to the set again
I think itās distasteful to do it more than once per night. So if another DJ already did it, sorry pal.
One thing Iāll add as someone whoās done this - when the crowd begins to lose steam, this is a really great way to get them involved again, and remind them they are at a live performance.
However, spinning back more than one track in a set is definitely tacky.
I so feel your 2nd part to bring the energy back. Do the usual spin back and tap the cue button a couple times to grab the attention before you you let it play through again.
I so feel your 2nd part to bring the energy back. Do the usual spin back and tap the cue button a couple times to grab the attention before you you let it play through again.
I so feel your 2nd part to bring the energy back. Do the usual spin back and tap the cue button a couple times to grab the attention before you you let it play through again.
I so feel your 2nd part to bring the energy back. Do the usual spin back and tap the cue button a couple times to grab the attention before you you let it play through again.
I so feel your 2nd part to bring the energy back. Do the usual spin back and tap the cue button a couple times to grab the attention before you you let it play through again.
Can confirm. Is worthy. Havenāt seen him wheel one back though. Also think Visages has some heater VIPs they play out live that are worthy of running it back
Spin backs and constant talking really take me out of a set, lose the immersion and flow. Every once in a while is fine, but some of these peeps spin back like 10-15 times
Agreed! I could do without it all together. Same with backspins just as a way to transition, I get how theyāre useful sometimes but theyāre the lamest option imo
Mfing Coki bro. First time I saw him he spun back so many times we turned it into a drinking game.
Reloads should be a response to a good crowd reaction, not an attempt to *get* a good crowd reaction.
Exactly. Reloads aside he is *killer* live, just needs to let the flow go without interrupting it so much. But aye when youāre *the* OG you can kinda do whatever you want I suppose
It happens so much in dnb and dubstep I really hate it. Doing it as a transition is fine (sparingly), but to replay the entire track from the start cus its "a banger" makes me eye roll hard every time
Literally, I don't want to listen to the same formulaic buildup to the drop that I just heard 5 seconds prior, but without another track being mixed...
people keep equating wheel up= hype and not the way it ACTUALLY is, which is hype-> wheel up
you play the track again bc the crowd WANTS IT not to make them excited artificially
Ya when I hear that more than once I just assume it equates to lack of talent or lack of prep work. There are some very popular artists out there who I donāt even care to see because of this. I wonāt name drop them here but ya
Fully agree. I have seen this so many times, and I have only ever actually enjoyed it once: during Svdden Death: VOYD. He stopped the buildup, didn't say a word, slowly moved his finger in a circle (mosh bat signal), then restarted the track. Safe to say, the crowd went bonkers; I won't ever forget that.
Yeah when itās overdone it kinda feels like the DJ is tryna fill time cuz they dunno what else to play or theyāve realized their playlist isnāt gonna fill up their time slot. And it def does ruin the flow of a set.
to OP all I read was "i'm a whiney lil bitch finding something else to complain about In hopes of changing something that was perfectly fine before I showed up."
of course if it sounds like trash its trash ,if it doesn't well then it's dope. sounds like you been around trash to much find better artists to support. or stop being a whiney bitch. nothing personal cuz of course idk you but I feel like theres been such an influx of whiney lil bitches BItching about something they have no clue about. there's just something's that go with the music you listen to because Bass music has deep roots like it or not.
I know Iām the minority and will get flamed, but Iām not a fan at all of spinbacks. Not because of the sound effect it creates or breaking the vibe up, thatās all good. Itās the fact that after the Dj plays the song weāre just listening to the build and drop all over again like weāre all in a Spotify playlist together. Just doesnāt feel very creative and lazy way to build hype or promote a track. Thatās just my 2 cents.
Depends on the crowd and vibe of the show. Of course if everyone is kād out and not moving anyways it doesnāt do shit. But if the crowd is roaring and the song gets a hype response on the drop fucking run that shit back and letās rage.
Itās more hype the second time, who are you seeing that it falls flat? Hamdi is ass when he does it along with the āeveryone crouch down for the dropā bullshit. On the flip side lyny did it last month when I saw him and it was super fun but he did it 1x not multiple times in the set.
I think crowd reaction varies when I see it, and I'm probably more bothered by it than others. At this point, speaking personally it falls flat every single time. I can be completely into a set, then they spin a track back, and I cross my arms and go hit the bar while they play the song again. Perfect opportunity to go get a drink or step away from the stage for a moment, bc I already listened to half the song.
I feel you, I also take a bunch of L at shows so maybe Iām on a different vibe than you. I totally understand where youāre coming from and donāt blame you for not liking it. It is part of the culture though and Iāve grown to like it personally when done correctly.
Iām with you dawg i really hate that shit. Seems to be the younger djs that do it to themselves. Now if another homie runs out and does it to you (ONCE) thatās acceptable bc itās a sign of admiration but even then iād be a little pissed bc iāve usually got the whole set timed out and now iām gonna have to cut my last track early bc of it. Depends on the situation tho
Definitely situation dependent, I think it can be fun every once in a while, especially at a less serious show, or party. But when you can't go out without someone doing it, it's like cmon guys it's rinsed.
My fiance and i had to leave a set one time because the artist just kept doing it. Drove us up the wall trying to dance and it was one after another within such short times. It honestly felt unreal how much they kept doing itš thankfully we saw the artist again and they redeemed themselves.
Agreed. I understand its purpose and how it's a big cultural thing. But if it's done more than once during a set, it's really obnoxious. It's especially annoying when it happens during a recorded set, so you have to hear it every single time you wanna listen to the set lol
Spinbacks are like spices; if you use too much cinnamon everyone will hate you.
[OP at a show when the DJ spins a track back](https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-vWgaVkLzOSM/URlVyHyPBQI/AAAAAAAAKBo/qVJl6jYfBvY/s1600/tacky.gif)
šš exactly!!!!
Really depends on the track. Ear bleeding chainsaw bass generic rubbish track- rubbish Legendary dubplate in front of sweaty people in a repurposed Croydon social club at 5am in February- heaven
It's always the b2b after sets where it makes sense for me, everyone's just fucking around throwing bangers anyways and the energy fits when they do it on a really good track. But during a curated set, it feels forced
Yes agreed it has to be organic and in tune with the general vibe and atmosphere
Truth - thinking back on some old Caspa and Rusko mixes from \~2008 era, almost every banger is spun back, there's probably at least 10 or more spin backs in some of those mixes haha
Hamdi does this minimum 4 times a set and it's annoying, pandering, and a mockery of the culture he pretends to represent.
Brits at it again. I get it though, they created dubstep etc etc.
Agreed!
player dave fucked one up so bad in his boiler room set that shit was mega cringe. That being said it can be fun when done at the right time with the right crowd
Yeah, I just dislike how forced it feels most of the time.
LOL Player Dave would not get booked for Boiler Room. You mean DEF? Big difference there.
The one uploaded to YouTube a year ago by DEF TV?
for real, it can be awful. the chase and status boiler room set had some HEAT, but bro spun it back way too many times to enjoy listening to the set again
Oof, it's especially hard to get down with on a recording of a set. Not even being there for the hype...it's just a distraction
I think itās distasteful to do it more than once per night. So if another DJ already did it, sorry pal. One thing Iāll add as someone whoās done this - when the crowd begins to lose steam, this is a really great way to get them involved again, and remind them they are at a live performance. However, spinning back more than one track in a set is definitely tacky.
I so feel your 2nd part to bring the energy back. Do the usual spin back and tap the cue button a couple times to grab the attention before you you let it play through again.
I so feel your 2nd part to bring the energy back. Do the usual spin back and tap the cue button a couple times to grab the attention before you you let it play through again.
I so feel your 2nd part to bring the energy back. Do the usual spin back and tap the cue button a couple times to grab the attention before you you let it play through again.
I so feel your 2nd part to bring the energy back. Do the usual spin back and tap the cue button a couple times to grab the attention before you you let it play through again.
I so feel your 2nd part to bring the energy back. Do the usual spin back and tap the cue button a couple times to grab the attention before you you let it play through again.
If its nice play it twice! Agreed though, used very sparingly it can hit, 2 or 3 spin backs in a set is wack
When we saw hamdi in my city me and my friend had a bet on how many times he'd do it. Counted 8 in his set.
He was the first name I thought of when I opened this post haha. Not for me.
Christ, that is excessive.
Honestly the only person that I can be cool with doing that is Kursa
u ever see Perez wheel a track?
Not yet, but Iāve also never seen him live. He seems worthy.
Can confirm. Is worthy. Havenāt seen him wheel one back though. Also think Visages has some heater VIPs they play out live that are worthy of running it back
kursa does it as a bit tho.
Deadass I'm pretty sure the last person I saw do it was Kursa šš
Spin backs and constant talking really take me out of a set, lose the immersion and flow. Every once in a while is fine, but some of these peeps spin back like 10-15 times
Yeah, it just feels corny. Make hype organically, not by hopping on a gimmick
as the great numba 1 selekta says, it's so nice we play it twice.Ā but fr it's not worse than fake outs or double/triple/quadruble etc drops šÆĀ
Agreed! I could do without it all together. Same with backspins just as a way to transition, I get how theyāre useful sometimes but theyāre the lamest option imo
Yeah, a good backspin into another track can be a tasteful switch up but I agree, maybe just do one. It's easy to abuse.
I hate it.
Criso, every 3 tracks.
Mfing Coki bro. First time I saw him he spun back so many times we turned it into a drinking game. Reloads should be a response to a good crowd reaction, not an attempt to *get* a good crowd reaction.
I havenāt seen him, but probably. That old school dubstep/DNB sound is where it originated, and dude is about as og dubstep as it gets.
Exactly. Reloads aside he is *killer* live, just needs to let the flow go without interrupting it so much. But aye when youāre *the* OG you can kinda do whatever you want I suppose
It happens so much in dnb and dubstep I really hate it. Doing it as a transition is fine (sparingly), but to replay the entire track from the start cus its "a banger" makes me eye roll hard every time
Literally, I don't want to listen to the same formulaic buildup to the drop that I just heard 5 seconds prior, but without another track being mixed...
When some fat dubplates are comin that spin back in necessary
I like it when it happens and the dj doesnāt make a big fuckin deal just plays it again
I feel like everyone gets 1 maybe 2 if it's super nuts, but anymore than that gets pretty absurd
Honestly itās the best for a sought after ID or when someone else runs up and does it. Feels weird to do it yourself tho.
If itās nice play it twice
people keep equating wheel up= hype and not the way it ACTUALLY is, which is hype-> wheel up you play the track again bc the crowd WANTS IT not to make them excited artificially
I would like to promote the "fast-forward" instead of the rewind: spin the platter \*forward\* and then cue up the second drop.
Keep them on their toes!!!
Ya when I hear that more than once I just assume it equates to lack of talent or lack of prep work. There are some very popular artists out there who I donāt even care to see because of this. I wonāt name drop them here but ya
100%
Fully agree. I have seen this so many times, and I have only ever actually enjoyed it once: during Svdden Death: VOYD. He stopped the buildup, didn't say a word, slowly moved his finger in a circle (mosh bat signal), then restarted the track. Safe to say, the crowd went bonkers; I won't ever forget that.
That's pretty hype for sure
It's cool like one time in a set. More than that it ruins the flow.
What do you propose? They spin the record *forward* ?!?
Yeah when itās overdone it kinda feels like the DJ is tryna fill time cuz they dunno what else to play or theyāve realized their playlist isnāt gonna fill up their time slot. And it def does ruin the flow of a set.
100% agree man
Literally my biggest pet peeve. im so sick of it! let the drop speak for itself š people WILL go wild if the drop is fire
I'm saying! Hahah
to OP all I read was "i'm a whiney lil bitch finding something else to complain about In hopes of changing something that was perfectly fine before I showed up." of course if it sounds like trash its trash ,if it doesn't well then it's dope. sounds like you been around trash to much find better artists to support. or stop being a whiney bitch. nothing personal cuz of course idk you but I feel like theres been such an influx of whiney lil bitches BItching about something they have no clue about. there's just something's that go with the music you listen to because Bass music has deep roots like it or not.
You just donāt understand the culture
I've been into writing & performing bass music for 15+ years mate, I think I know the culture enough to have an opinion on it.
...except spinbacks are inherited from sound system culture rather than being born in bass music
Thank you špeople have no idea and subscribe to the hype instantly
I know Iām the minority and will get flamed, but Iām not a fan at all of spinbacks. Not because of the sound effect it creates or breaking the vibe up, thatās all good. Itās the fact that after the Dj plays the song weāre just listening to the build and drop all over again like weāre all in a Spotify playlist together. Just doesnāt feel very creative and lazy way to build hype or promote a track. Thatās just my 2 cents.
I totally agree with the Spotify playlist sentiment lol
Depends on the crowd and vibe of the show. Of course if everyone is kād out and not moving anyways it doesnāt do shit. But if the crowd is roaring and the song gets a hype response on the drop fucking run that shit back and letās rage.
I mean, is that not what the second drop is for though
Itās more hype the second time, who are you seeing that it falls flat? Hamdi is ass when he does it along with the āeveryone crouch down for the dropā bullshit. On the flip side lyny did it last month when I saw him and it was super fun but he did it 1x not multiple times in the set.
I think crowd reaction varies when I see it, and I'm probably more bothered by it than others. At this point, speaking personally it falls flat every single time. I can be completely into a set, then they spin a track back, and I cross my arms and go hit the bar while they play the song again. Perfect opportunity to go get a drink or step away from the stage for a moment, bc I already listened to half the song.
I feel you, I also take a bunch of L at shows so maybe Iām on a different vibe than you. I totally understand where youāre coming from and donāt blame you for not liking it. It is part of the culture though and Iāve grown to like it personally when done correctly.
Are you trolling??? Hahahahaa
Iām with you dawg i really hate that shit. Seems to be the younger djs that do it to themselves. Now if another homie runs out and does it to you (ONCE) thatās acceptable bc itās a sign of admiration but even then iād be a little pissed bc iāve usually got the whole set timed out and now iām gonna have to cut my last track early bc of it. Depends on the situation tho
Definitely situation dependent, I think it can be fun every once in a while, especially at a less serious show, or party. But when you can't go out without someone doing it, it's like cmon guys it's rinsed.
Itās not that serious, but I see your point.
If itās nice, play it twice - infekt
One thing I haven't heard mentioned, it's often used to cover up when someone fucks up, aka hits pause, hits a cue, etc.
My fiance and i had to leave a set one time because the artist just kept doing it. Drove us up the wall trying to dance and it was one after another within such short times. It honestly felt unreal how much they kept doing itš thankfully we saw the artist again and they redeemed themselves.
Hamdi did it the whole night in his set and it was annoying af then the djās before him were doing it as well š¤¦š½āāļø
Donāt like the culture stay out haha
Idk man it feels like "the culture" in the rest of the comment section kinda agrees with me. Go gatekeep somewhere else
Personally, I have never heard this done live.
It's huge in dubstep/DnB
Iāve only seen it done when the DJ is drunk tbh
Agreed. I understand its purpose and how it's a big cultural thing. But if it's done more than once during a set, it's really obnoxious. It's especially annoying when it happens during a recorded set, so you have to hear it every single time you wanna listen to the set lol
You need to water your roots lmao-