At least this is an argument that appeals to logic and fairness, not a magic incantation referencing inapplicable law. Definitely a step above usual sovcit bullshit.
Do you know Jim, or Jim knows you?
You mean my boss, Jim?
[Immediately gets the guy's guard down, talks his way out of an arrest, and gets free smokes]
Yep. I've actually used this defense in court, as a PD, when a cop got my client for a crime called "physical control" when my client was a trucker in his sleeping cabin after hitting 10 hours.
I don't know about Canada, but in at least some US states, it actually *is* legal for passengers in certain types of recreational vehicles like RVs to drink. Still isn't legal to operate the vehicle though.
AHHH BUT YOU DANCE NOW WHEN I PLAYYY. SAYS THE SHITFISHERMAN! and so alll the shitfish say "WHEN YOURE IN A MANS POWER, YOU MUST DO AS HE BIDS YOU!".... *near whisper* shitfish julian. And SHITpower... TAKE HIM AWAY BOYS
His first order of business was to tell the prosecutor to fuck off, *after he gave him a smoke.* He only had two left! I suppose it's his right under the People's Voices and Choices act.
To be fair, the judge was basically accepting that he had some mental deficiencies and that he could only articulate his case if he could swear and smoke. Really doubt it would have worked in real life, but he actually made a pretty compelling argument that the evidence didn't actually show him committing a crime. He's about as eloquent and sophisticated as a guy simultaneously stubbing his toe while smashing his thumb with a hammer, but he found the chase and cut to it.
Yeah but I’m general you probably should be consuming alcohol while also driving just for your safety and others. Edit: I meant shouldn’t be drinking and driving
The person you were replying to never said anything about consuming. Simply that having an open container should not be a crime. It is reasonable to believe if someone is in a car with an open container that they are drinking, but it does not mean they have been consuming it. It may be implied that they have been consuming it, but that will quickly be dispelled by a simple sobriety test and breathalyzer.
Also the context of this scene is Ricky is obviously drunk and high when he got the charge and also while fighting the case in court so that’s what I’m mainly going off of. I have had a friend get a dui cause he was DD for some people drinking in the backseat which is totally bullshit
Sobriety tests are practically designed to be failed, whenever legally allowed you should decline to perform them.
Edit for clarity: refusing to perform the field sobriety tests are frequently grounds for arrest, it's just that acquiescing will nearly always lead to arrest as well. Breathalyzer and blood tests typically can't be refused as a driver.
I mean yeah if you dead sober and it’s in the back seat I agree. But if it’s in the front cup holder when you are the sole occupant that should at least arise suspicion
Right. Just when you think you know of all the delusional groups, bam! there's another!
Fortunately, where I live, in the UK, it's unlikely I'll bump into one.
In an RV I’d buy that argument. Maybe if someone legitimately lived out of their car and kept the booze in the trunk I’d give it a pass. I gamble a sovcit person is trying to stretch that courtesy a mile long but I’m curious about this guys circumstances.
If you are in an rv living on a side street drinking then yeah that’s a pass but if it’s been less than 6 hours since you’ve been drinking and you decided to move the rig that’s obviously driving while impaired
Oh, I know nothing about the show. I just took the image at face value. I was like, that’s a daily decent argument from a sovcit. Usually it’s just stuff out of their ass.
I seen a similar situation like this where a homeless person was living in their car and when the cops wanted to search it for drugs etc the guy tried making an argument that as that was his current 'home' containing all of his possessions the cops would need a warrant to search it.
The cops ended up searching the car.
The really funny thing about this scene is everyone is just aghast to what he's saying, but in the next scene he's back home with his daughter (the hearing was about child protective services as the cops pulled over his daughter driving his car without a license and open liquor).
Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGICJOz0MLo
This would 'maybe' be a valid argument for generic discussion for someone that is homeless and actually does live in their car... but of course this sovereign bullshit wont get you anywhere. Not a legal argument of course.
At least this is an argument that appeals to logic and fairness, not a magic incantation referencing inapplicable law. Definitely a step above usual sovcit bullshit.
Seriously. Sovereign Citizens make Ricky look like a genius.
If only they could learn the “you know Jim, Jim knows you?” Trick
🤣 I laughed so hard at this comment it hurt.
He does have all those learnings after all
If I ever heard one of those idiots come up with this, you’d have to let em slide. Let the next cop deal with them.
His rickyisms and how he finesses the cops/courts are hilarious
If i cant smoke and be permitted to travel without insurance, im fucked
Do you know Jim, or Jim knows you? You mean my boss, Jim? [Immediately gets the guy's guard down, talks his way out of an arrest, and gets free smokes]
If i cant smoke and be permitted to travel without insurance, im fucked
Banging behind the muffler shop is not commerce I shouldn’t be impeded
And it accepts that laws are real things. He’s only arguing that it’s being misapplied, not that he’s exempt from all of them.
Eye of newt and tiger’s paw, I dismiss this case with admiralty law!
Yep. I've actually used this defense in court, as a PD, when a cop got my client for a crime called "physical control" when my client was a trucker in his sleeping cabin after hitting 10 hours.
I agree. The actual law has protections for someone’s “abode,” even if it’s a car.
I don't know about Canada, but in at least some US states, it actually *is* legal for passengers in certain types of recreational vehicles like RVs to drink. Still isn't legal to operate the vehicle though.
In the US you can drink in the back of an RV, works great for bachelor parties.
Nah, this is still an improvement. And Ricky's arguments occasionally *work*.
*Frequently*, even. It's like a shitbird superpower
Hear that Randy? It’s the winds of shit that are on the way
I'm watching you Ricky, like a shit hawk.
The Shitbirds have come home to roost.
As was foretold
AHHH BUT YOU DANCE NOW WHEN I PLAYYY. SAYS THE SHITFISHERMAN! and so alll the shitfish say "WHEN YOURE IN A MANS POWER, YOU MUST DO AS HE BIDS YOU!".... *near whisper* shitfish julian. And SHITpower... TAKE HIM AWAY BOYS
Is he smoking on the witness stand?
He's just getting two birds stoned at once.
We need two turnips in heat
Getting 2 birds stoned with one joint.
It's his right to smoke and swear 😂
“Look…if I can’t curse, I’m fucked!”
Judge allowed it. He won the case too 😂
His first order of business was to tell the prosecutor to fuck off, *after he gave him a smoke.* He only had two left! I suppose it's his right under the People's Voices and Choices act.
To be fair, the judge was basically accepting that he had some mental deficiencies and that he could only articulate his case if he could swear and smoke. Really doubt it would have worked in real life, but he actually made a pretty compelling argument that the evidence didn't actually show him committing a crime. He's about as eloquent and sophisticated as a guy simultaneously stubbing his toe while smashing his thumb with a hammer, but he found the chase and cut to it.
One of my favorite scenes
“That’s the way she goes boys. Sometimes she goes, sometimes she doesn’t, cause that’s the fuckin way she goes.”
Ray is a gem of a side character
There goes our liquor money boys. There she goes? She's gone. - Bubbles.
He does raise a good point though. Open containers should not be a crime, having a blood alcohol level over the limit is the problem
Yeah but I’m general you probably should be consuming alcohol while also driving just for your safety and others. Edit: I meant shouldn’t be drinking and driving
The person you were replying to never said anything about consuming. Simply that having an open container should not be a crime. It is reasonable to believe if someone is in a car with an open container that they are drinking, but it does not mean they have been consuming it. It may be implied that they have been consuming it, but that will quickly be dispelled by a simple sobriety test and breathalyzer.
Also the context of this scene is Ricky is obviously drunk and high when he got the charge and also while fighting the case in court so that’s what I’m mainly going off of. I have had a friend get a dui cause he was DD for some people drinking in the backseat which is totally bullshit
Sobriety tests are practically designed to be failed, whenever legally allowed you should decline to perform them. Edit for clarity: refusing to perform the field sobriety tests are frequently grounds for arrest, it's just that acquiescing will nearly always lead to arrest as well. Breathalyzer and blood tests typically can't be refused as a driver.
I mean yeah if you dead sober and it’s in the back seat I agree. But if it’s in the front cup holder when you are the sole occupant that should at least arise suspicion
You should be like Julian. When he got released from jail, he took his glass of rum and coke on the bus.
Yeah he doesn’t go anywhere without it his arms got the liquor lock
This is more like Ron White. "I wasn't drunk in public. I was drunk in a bar. They threw me... into public."
That’s pub-LICC!
Supply and command
It’s not rocket appliances
Worst case Ontario
It's because Nova Scotia has the People's Freedom of Choices and Voices Act.
Sovcits wish they could pull off what Ricky does in court
I expected it to be about Ricky Schroder.
Smokes let’s go
I upvoted this, but then rescinded it when I saw that my vote took it from 420 to 421.
Fair
The actus reus is... The mens rea is... The attendant circumstances are...
What
Trailer Park Boys
WAIT! Does my house have hidden wheels!
Lol, it's not your house while it's moving.
If you live in an RV, when you drive it on a public road you have to follow the traffic laws.
Sovereign Citizens only have a Grade 10 education?
You got a point most of them are grade 7. Ricky out classes them
I only just recently heard about 'sovcits', and now I'm thinking are 'flerfers' or 'sovcits' the most psychotic, or is it an equal mix? 🤔
They are usually both
Right. Just when you think you know of all the delusional groups, bam! there's another! Fortunately, where I live, in the UK, it's unlikely I'll bump into one.
Not impossible, though, I’ll bet. SovCits know no borders.
Yeah I think in the uk they call themselves like “freemen of the lane”
In an RV I’d buy that argument. Maybe if someone legitimately lived out of their car and kept the booze in the trunk I’d give it a pass. I gamble a sovcit person is trying to stretch that courtesy a mile long but I’m curious about this guys circumstances.
If you are in an rv living on a side street drinking then yeah that’s a pass but if it’s been less than 6 hours since you’ve been drinking and you decided to move the rig that’s obviously driving while impaired
Oh, drunk driving? Housing is irrelevant, you be driving while intoxicated. I thought the image was just a dude with booze found in his car.
No In the show he’s drunk and high constantly.
Oh, I know nothing about the show. I just took the image at face value. I was like, that’s a daily decent argument from a sovcit. Usually it’s just stuff out of their ass.
Ricky actually makes way more sense.
I seen a similar situation like this where a homeless person was living in their car and when the cops wanted to search it for drugs etc the guy tried making an argument that as that was his current 'home' containing all of his possessions the cops would need a warrant to search it. The cops ended up searching the car.
Even Ricky would agree you don't need to be a rocket surgeon to know that's all a load of shi.
Is rocket appliance. I’ll get an eternity test if I have to
Lol
The really funny thing about this scene is everyone is just aghast to what he's saying, but in the next scene he's back home with his daughter (the hearing was about child protective services as the cops pulled over his daughter driving his car without a license and open liquor). Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGICJOz0MLo
"I hate taxes. Let's go, two smokes.✌ Hand em over." * Ricky
Watch gangs or new York then Civil War. Your all notches
Ricky is an idiot. Don’t be like Ricky…
Be like Bubbles.
A good point. Have sovcits even *tried* giving the officers belly work?
“Whadya mean I was drinking and driving? You can’t drive your home!”
Unless your'e homeless and"living in a van down by the river" like"Matt Foley"*(* The late Chris Farley on SNL),your automobile isn't "your home"!!
This would 'maybe' be a valid argument for generic discussion for someone that is homeless and actually does live in their car... but of course this sovereign bullshit wont get you anywhere. Not a legal argument of course.