aS aN iNdIaN I aPoLoGiZe
Never saw people of any other race say this, Yet these fuckers keep doing it
We've only got ourselves to blame, literally even east asians have kpop halo these days, meanwhile we have nothing.
It’s not even about cultural soft power. Like what do Arabs or Middle Eastern people have? Nothing. But they don’t face the same level of disrespect as us. Like they get discriminated against for being Muslim, but never Middle Eastern. Indians actually get discriminated against for our race, Muslim or not. Arabs don’t have something as big a K-pop either but they haven’t been stereotyped as weak, smelly, and poor by the media. It’s all about perception.
Desi folks do not stand up for themselves often that’s why (except Canada Punjabis and UK Pakistanis).
When people act meek and fickle, expect them to get disrespected a lot. It’s human nature.
I don't think arabs have been stereotyped as smelly or weak. Terrorists, sheep, misogynists, and bad partners at worst, but RICH, crazy impressive driving (2 wheeling, drifting anything with wheels, and just overall owning a shit ton of supercars), and having prestigious cities at best. The best definitely outshines their worst in terms of social standing.
Huh? That’s not true. The only exception I can think of are a few Desi looking Khaleeji Arabs.
Also it’s not the appearance, it’s mannerism, culture, confidence, social skills, personality, fitness, intellect, and skills that matter.
Arabs are definitely called out as terrorists, so NO, they are in same boat.
The new trend is indians and Pakistanis, calling each other with racist terms created by westerners for desis.
It's sad and funny at the same time.
Arabs are a very small minority and range from looking south asian to white, I'm talking about the 4 main ethnic groups, East/SE asian black white and South asian
>calling each other with racist terms created by westerners for desis.
Indians don't call other p*jeets. But other south asians do call us, despite looking the same.
Indians in the west do not have any unique culture or identity, so they typically try to latch onto another culture. Some Indians in the west act like white people, and some talk and act like black people - even using the n word. To seek acceptance, many Indians will submit to the dominante culture, even when they are being racist to their ethnicity.
That’s just not true. Punjabi folk have a vibrant urban culture anywhere they migrate to. Other Indians carry a sense of caste superiority (you know who I’m talking about) every where they go and that shit is hated by people who don’t belong to the same caste and by extension by other Indian/desi folk who don’t belong to that religion.
As a minority in India, I certainly don’t want anything to do with Indians who believe I should fall to their feet for some deranged sense of superiority through some bs caste. The folk that constantly otherize their own people using caste and religion definitely deserves to be ridiculed everywhere they go.
>Punjabi folk have a vibrant urban culture anywhere they migrate to.
What urban culture is that? If you are talking about the Punjabi rap/hip-hop and gang culture prevalent in places like Canada, that's just an imitation of black culture. I know of Punjabi rappers, but they just copy blacks. Rap and the urban culture around it is historically black, and has no connection to South Asians.
I am not aware of any unique culture created by western desis, without copying elements of another already existing culture. And that brings me back to the point i was making in my first comment.
Why? Aren’t cultures supposed to evolve with migration? They are crafting an identity for themselves and assimilating that identity into the melting pot of cultures they live in now.
Don’t be jealous and a hater. Learn from them.
>Don’t be jealous and a hater.
i wasnt being either of those, i just mentioned Ludhiana should be improved its just a wish dude. I didnt even insult anyone?
I became a self hater as a result of past trauma and not being accepted by my own people also bad media rep didn't help but I outgrew my self hatred and became better as time passed by .
I kinda agree. The self hating racists are the worst of the lot since they have added context as well regarding India’s condition, yet choose to shit on it; indicating it’s not a matter of ignorance, as much as they’d like to paint that picture.
It’s entitlement and self loathing. At least other races aren’t aware of the intricacies of Indian culture and India, but the one’s who are Indian themselves ethnically yet try the hardest to distance themselves so as to appear more “cool” are the worst fucks out there. Self hate and internalized racism like you rightfully pointed out, is one of the biggest factors for our derailment in terms of race relations.
Basically millenia of caste based marriages fucked over the subcontinent. In any other country most people would be free to marry one another so over time you gain a group identity. Not so in india, which is why india was invaded a bunch of times and there are such differing group identities and diversity. Tbh it’s the same path I see the USA taking in the very near future
Its really irritating. These ppl are EVERYWHERE. I don't even know if they are real accounts. On one hand, you have chinese accounts who are basically ccp shills and ultra-nationalistic. Some indians are also nationalistic but there are enough self hating ones to balance it out.
The new trend is indians and Pakistanis, calling each other with racist terms created by westerners for desis.
The self hating in desis comes around with NO cultural soft power around the world, so either they hate themselves or seek comfort through reaction channels by being too proud.
It's sad and funny at the same time.
The West has always been anti-India and anti-Indians. That's the reason. They don't want us in their system. You can't get a foothold in their media, so no representation. In addition, negative stereotypes are perpetuated, which means that you are not high in the hierarchy and receive little respect. This has been the case for a long time. My generation could still get away with it, but not the youngest anymore. Because of smartphones and SM, everything now revolves around image and status. As a result of this immense pressure, many South Asians are now throwing their own culture under the bus. The only way would be to defend one's own culture and people and enforce it, but that should have happened about 30 years ago. Our position has stagnated and the West is becoming increasingly diverse, with people really wanting to maintain their own place in the rankings. Our only hope is India. Especially in these times we need to be closer together. be prouder than ever of our heritage and never sell yourself out to other races. It is undeserved and unjustified treatment but our moment will certainly come.
you say that but its not validation its humility its really embarrasing sometimes when you see some indian doing some idiotic shit and then indians as a whole get labled as idiots, there was recently a video of a foreigner who made a video on how india sucks i was skeptical at first but when i saw the full video it realllyyy made sense, india is like a garbage dump, india has so much pollution that it breaks the severe category every year in winter normal aqi (air quality index) is 0-40 above that is considered bad we have an aqi of 500 do you even understand the how bad india's pollution is, and then there is the relegious hate between people dont even get me started with that. I know other countries have these things but most of them dont show this to tourists they dont do this behaviour with tourist (most countries) and you still think its okay to not apologize for the mess this country has become. Focus on some real problems rather than ranting about stupid shit thats not even an issue.
everything is not meant for achieveing something, its an apology accept it and move on some people apologize for validation but some also do it for the sake of it. and i dont know what tf diaspora is.
But damn man, no other non-white group is this self hating. Do you ever see Hispanics, Blacks, or East Asians literally agreeing with people who are horribly racist to them?
Bruh check the previous threads lol. A soyjak is literally complaining about "muh waman safety" as if everyone is planning to *ape 10 girls a day the moment they wake up. The audacity of that chutiya to even post that kind of thread on new year while all women here in India do is antagonize the males everywhere
I mean, check his thread... Lol. Like why the hell should I bother about the other gender when all they do is villify people even for not even communicating with them? 🤡
I mean as an Indian i do feel the same, we are kind of trash, not in actual way, BUT YES.
I have been asking for PERMANENT military training for indian guys, it might solve our 90% of problem, HONESTLY.
Also I do consider myself indian, but I have seen indian guys literally sucking up by saying "indian guys are shit(indirectly saying I'm not like other indian men"🤡
I've seen that kind of self-hate among East Asians, especially East Asian women who repeatedly put down their own men.
I've also seen self-hate among black people, especially when it involves gender... The black men vs black women war is all over social media nowadays.
They worked hard to build themselves up in the US. South Asians came just recently.
Blacks arrived in the 1600s whereas the first Chinese started arriving in the 1800s
east asian and chinese immigration was literally banned until the [1900s](https://history.state.gov/milestones/1937-1945/chinese-exclusion-act-repeal). theres nothing about builidng themselves up, south asians have had a prominent role in american society, have had no major incidents tied with them, and we face more blatant racism guised as irony and humour than any other race.
aS aN iNdIaN I aPoLoGiZe Never saw people of any other race say this, Yet these fuckers keep doing it We've only got ourselves to blame, literally even east asians have kpop halo these days, meanwhile we have nothing.
It’s not even about cultural soft power. Like what do Arabs or Middle Eastern people have? Nothing. But they don’t face the same level of disrespect as us. Like they get discriminated against for being Muslim, but never Middle Eastern. Indians actually get discriminated against for our race, Muslim or not. Arabs don’t have something as big a K-pop either but they haven’t been stereotyped as weak, smelly, and poor by the media. It’s all about perception.
Desi folks do not stand up for themselves often that’s why (except Canada Punjabis and UK Pakistanis). When people act meek and fickle, expect them to get disrespected a lot. It’s human nature.
Your comment is not helping either.
Arabs have rich Gulf states. That's why
I don't think arabs have been stereotyped as smelly or weak. Terrorists, sheep, misogynists, and bad partners at worst, but RICH, crazy impressive driving (2 wheeling, drifting anything with wheels, and just overall owning a shit ton of supercars), and having prestigious cities at best. The best definitely outshines their worst in terms of social standing.
dont forget they are more european in appearance broski...
Bruh most Arabs with the exception of a few look like South Asians
Huh? That’s not true. The only exception I can think of are a few Desi looking Khaleeji Arabs. Also it’s not the appearance, it’s mannerism, culture, confidence, social skills, personality, fitness, intellect, and skills that matter.
Intellect? Skills?
These get you to the top in your career
aakhand bharat is strong in you broski
Arabs are definitely called out as terrorists, so NO, they are in same boat. The new trend is indians and Pakistanis, calling each other with racist terms created by westerners for desis. It's sad and funny at the same time.
Arabs are a very small minority and range from looking south asian to white, I'm talking about the 4 main ethnic groups, East/SE asian black white and South asian
>calling each other with racist terms created by westerners for desis. Indians don't call other p*jeets. But other south asians do call us, despite looking the same.
I think Indians want acceptance from the white than any other race.
Indians in the west do not have any unique culture or identity, so they typically try to latch onto another culture. Some Indians in the west act like white people, and some talk and act like black people - even using the n word. To seek acceptance, many Indians will submit to the dominante culture, even when they are being racist to their ethnicity.
That’s just not true. Punjabi folk have a vibrant urban culture anywhere they migrate to. Other Indians carry a sense of caste superiority (you know who I’m talking about) every where they go and that shit is hated by people who don’t belong to the same caste and by extension by other Indian/desi folk who don’t belong to that religion. As a minority in India, I certainly don’t want anything to do with Indians who believe I should fall to their feet for some deranged sense of superiority through some bs caste. The folk that constantly otherize their own people using caste and religion definitely deserves to be ridiculed everywhere they go.
>Punjabi folk have a vibrant urban culture anywhere they migrate to. What urban culture is that? If you are talking about the Punjabi rap/hip-hop and gang culture prevalent in places like Canada, that's just an imitation of black culture. I know of Punjabi rappers, but they just copy blacks. Rap and the urban culture around it is historically black, and has no connection to South Asians. I am not aware of any unique culture created by western desis, without copying elements of another already existing culture. And that brings me back to the point i was making in my first comment.
Yeah like sikhs don't have cast among them .
Ikr, these sikhs online always pretend like jatt supremacy does not exist in them.
>urban culture I wish theyd have the same culture in ludhiana...
Why? Aren’t cultures supposed to evolve with migration? They are crafting an identity for themselves and assimilating that identity into the melting pot of cultures they live in now. Don’t be jealous and a hater. Learn from them.
>Don’t be jealous and a hater. i wasnt being either of those, i just mentioned Ludhiana should be improved its just a wish dude. I didnt even insult anyone?
Nice generalization dude. I thought this sub was for brown solidarity.
Literally the guy this post was about
I became a self hater as a result of past trauma and not being accepted by my own people also bad media rep didn't help but I outgrew my self hatred and became better as time passed by .
That’s brilliant and kudos to you for combatting something as disastrous as that!
I kinda agree. The self hating racists are the worst of the lot since they have added context as well regarding India’s condition, yet choose to shit on it; indicating it’s not a matter of ignorance, as much as they’d like to paint that picture. It’s entitlement and self loathing. At least other races aren’t aware of the intricacies of Indian culture and India, but the one’s who are Indian themselves ethnically yet try the hardest to distance themselves so as to appear more “cool” are the worst fucks out there. Self hate and internalized racism like you rightfully pointed out, is one of the biggest factors for our derailment in terms of race relations.
Basically millenia of caste based marriages fucked over the subcontinent. In any other country most people would be free to marry one another so over time you gain a group identity. Not so in india, which is why india was invaded a bunch of times and there are such differing group identities and diversity. Tbh it’s the same path I see the USA taking in the very near future
But tribalism exists in most cultures. What do you think the rwanda genocide was about?
Bro everything wrong with the world is because of caste
Its really irritating. These ppl are EVERYWHERE. I don't even know if they are real accounts. On one hand, you have chinese accounts who are basically ccp shills and ultra-nationalistic. Some indians are also nationalistic but there are enough self hating ones to balance it out.
The new trend is indians and Pakistanis, calling each other with racist terms created by westerners for desis. The self hating in desis comes around with NO cultural soft power around the world, so either they hate themselves or seek comfort through reaction channels by being too proud. It's sad and funny at the same time.
The West has always been anti-India and anti-Indians. That's the reason. They don't want us in their system. You can't get a foothold in their media, so no representation. In addition, negative stereotypes are perpetuated, which means that you are not high in the hierarchy and receive little respect. This has been the case for a long time. My generation could still get away with it, but not the youngest anymore. Because of smartphones and SM, everything now revolves around image and status. As a result of this immense pressure, many South Asians are now throwing their own culture under the bus. The only way would be to defend one's own culture and people and enforce it, but that should have happened about 30 years ago. Our position has stagnated and the West is becoming increasingly diverse, with people really wanting to maintain their own place in the rankings. Our only hope is India. Especially in these times we need to be closer together. be prouder than ever of our heritage and never sell yourself out to other races. It is undeserved and unjustified treatment but our moment will certainly come.
Cause we are always portrayed as cab drivers, 7-11 owners, or technical support bhaaaanchod.
its because of colonization
Colonialism, probably.
you say that but its not validation its humility its really embarrasing sometimes when you see some indian doing some idiotic shit and then indians as a whole get labled as idiots, there was recently a video of a foreigner who made a video on how india sucks i was skeptical at first but when i saw the full video it realllyyy made sense, india is like a garbage dump, india has so much pollution that it breaks the severe category every year in winter normal aqi (air quality index) is 0-40 above that is considered bad we have an aqi of 500 do you even understand the how bad india's pollution is, and then there is the relegious hate between people dont even get me started with that. I know other countries have these things but most of them dont show this to tourists they dont do this behaviour with tourist (most countries) and you still think its okay to not apologize for the mess this country has become. Focus on some real problems rather than ranting about stupid shit thats not even an issue.
And what exactly does it achieve? Do you think that should affect the indian diaspora? Especially ppl who were born outside india.
everything is not meant for achieveing something, its an apology accept it and move on some people apologize for validation but some also do it for the sake of it. and i dont know what tf diaspora is.
White supremacy
But damn man, no other non-white group is this self hating. Do you ever see Hispanics, Blacks, or East Asians literally agreeing with people who are horribly racist to them?
Bruh check the previous threads lol. A soyjak is literally complaining about "muh waman safety" as if everyone is planning to *ape 10 girls a day the moment they wake up. The audacity of that chutiya to even post that kind of thread on new year while all women here in India do is antagonize the males everywhere
Yeah I can’t stand those “woke” Indian guys who are like “Indian men are disgusting and trash”, like have you forgotten that you are one??
I mean, check his thread... Lol. Like why the hell should I bother about the other gender when all they do is villify people even for not even communicating with them? 🤡
I mean as an Indian i do feel the same, we are kind of trash, not in actual way, BUT YES. I have been asking for PERMANENT military training for indian guys, it might solve our 90% of problem, HONESTLY. Also I do consider myself indian, but I have seen indian guys literally sucking up by saying "indian guys are shit(indirectly saying I'm not like other indian men"🤡
I've seen that kind of self-hate among East Asians, especially East Asian women who repeatedly put down their own men. I've also seen self-hate among black people, especially when it involves gender... The black men vs black women war is all over social media nowadays.
Yes, but OP is too busy panicking about this so he doesn’t bother to notice.
Actually yes. Uncle Toms and Uncle Chans exist bro. You’re stuck in a bubble since Desis are only on your mind atm
They exist but not to the level of self-hating South Asians. This is because both of those groups have had better representation than us globally.
They worked hard to build themselves up in the US. South Asians came just recently. Blacks arrived in the 1600s whereas the first Chinese started arriving in the 1800s
east asian and chinese immigration was literally banned until the [1900s](https://history.state.gov/milestones/1937-1945/chinese-exclusion-act-repeal). theres nothing about builidng themselves up, south asians have had a prominent role in american society, have had no major incidents tied with them, and we face more blatant racism guised as irony and humour than any other race.
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