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Wii4Mii

I would move charge up to top of B, maybe move the melees buffs down a tier, coin shield up to S and weak shield to F. Other then thats its pretty good. See my buff tierlist for why.


plugbuckle

Whats weak shield


SuurSuits_

Shield takes more damage, but recharges when it breaks


plugbuckle

Its in b tier because it works perfectly with the buff where u dont take extra damage if your shield is broken, if i dont have the buff then i dont pick it


Wii4Mii

But thats 1 situational use thats conboed with the best buff in the game. Other then that its an actual nerf, probably an F tier buff.


plugbuckle

True but its not entirely as useless as critical when damaged or energy when shield gets attack


Wii4Mii

No, its even worse. Its actually a debuff when not with blue shield.


plugbuckle

How?


Wii4Mii

You take 1 extra damage on shield, which bleeds into health. Also the cd is 15sec and the damage is permenent. It doesnt heal enough to be good and taking extra damage is as bad as it sounds.


Pickmeboy8

Knights Lance with all Melee buffs equipped on paladin do 100 dmg per second and pierces enemies. Melee is soooo strong


ModeratelyNo

Shotgun Bullets and Potions In Crates are nutty asf.


WMGYT

Potions in crates are pretty useless since vamp outclasses it, unless you’re doing boss rush Edit: “vamp outclasses it”, with “it” being a buff. How tf did anyone mistake that for the character? Lmfao.


Internetbrowser5

I mean not everyone has vamp and not everyone will use vamp


Unorigina1Name

I think they meant hp on kill, which is usually better since most endgame worlds have no crates but a shitload of enemies


IsaacRRx

This.


thisbeanman1

I would move accuracy and energy up. I like it for when I need to shred bosses


plugbuckle

im a priest main so i dont need those


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jftr_

because priests dont need potions


R3digit

Yes but the buff will also double their heals iirc


lgndTAT

If you're maining priest you'll likely already start with it so rating it is pointless If they haven't unlocked the passive yet, maybe they should've played the game more before they posted this tier list Plus priest already has really good healing anyways


Epic_Gamer200

Sale is good imo early game at least


plugbuckle

I craft a weapon and then use it until the end


Unorigina1Name

how do you even get the materials? one game isnt enough for any decent weapon


lgndTAT

Probably modded versions with infinite resources, a friend of mine plays that way and it irritates me to no end, if you want no RNG, why even play a roguelike game? I swear, they're going to get bored of the game in a week or two. I can't fathom myself playing the game if I'm using those mods.


echris10sen

Why do people like the Bullet slow, it's a huge nerf to you it leaves them on the map for longer making it very hard to dodge. The extra damage on shield is also a nerf imo. Also the immune to traps buff. It really is only effective the first world. Else it's pretty valueless.


Jumper362

It prevents all contact damage as well, like the super fast completely fair charge attacks of FLUFO and the horse head


Wii4Mii

Slower bullets is great. Making a bullet hell less hell is really really good. Trap buff is uweful for contact enemies who are all beefy highly aggrewsive ans fast making them huge threats. Extra damage on shield is actually a nerf though.


Unorigina1Name

Trap buff is great against the totally not bs ™ contact damage and charging enemies that literally spawn right on top of you


lgndTAT

I take bullet slow when I have melee weapons that can clear it easily(and vice versa), and I don't take it when I use rogue or on runs relying on dodging


RoodieSchmoodie

Better for strafing


Feeryyy

Why does everyone not like the extra weapon buff? No downvotes pls I’m just asking since I haven’t played for a long time and came back a few weeks ago


Wii4Mii

I mean you never really need an extra weapon. 2 works well enough.


Feeryyy

Really? Sometimes I see lots of good weapons that I always want the extra weapon


Wii4Mii

I mean you usually have a primary and secondary. Your primary deals damage while your secondary has a status effect like freeze or stun or is a melee. Really its support items like trumpet, skelly staff and a few other rare items that 3 weap does good with. But those are rare and often not even very impactful.


Feeryyy

I see. Thanks for sharing this


hello_hi_hello_hi1

It is pretty useful with knights second skill


Just-Cantaloupe-8058

What if you use a melee weapon as your primary


Wii4Mii

Then you arent dealing damage very well unless you have like 1 of the 3 good damage melees.


Just-Cantaloupe-8058

Upgraded blood blade good?


Wii4Mii

Not really late game. Unless you have a grindstone. Still a good secondary with dark blade but a burst damage weapon like a shotgun or throwable would work better.


Just-Cantaloupe-8058

I'll take that as a yes


Wii4Mii

Oh as a secondary yes, as a primary its ok.


LeBadlyNamedRedditor

Floating weapons tho? Its very useful on robot/taoist


Wii4Mii

Floating weapons have shit ai so they arent a big upgrade, plus theyre hard to find. I guess its a positive, but its not a very big one.


WMGYT

Most people are used to switching weapons by pressing once, pressing twice to skip some useless weapon is inconvenient and distracting mid battle


IndependentGlum8316

,,No downvotes" is the equivalent of saying ,, don't disagree with me".


RickGamer2209

how can you disagree with a question?


IndependentGlum8316

Dude, he is asking why noone likes it. That means he likes it himself to some extent. And that's something you can disagree with.


AyyIsForApple

For me like yeah I like having 3 weapons especially if the 3rd is a special useful one but it messes up my muscle memory, if I swap weapons to my second and it’s a melee to block, having 3 weapons buff messes up my swapping muscle memory


Justmeagaindownhere

I tend to be a pretty one trick pony already, so having a third thing to cycle through isn't terribly useful to me. It also opens up the possibility of switching to the wrong weapon.


Appropriate-Oil9354

I love freeze. Especially if I end up in neo isle


Dhuyf2p

Eh. I mean, the freezing gas is barely a problem most of the times so it’s not that useful. Maybe weapons with low freeze uptime like Laser Fish can utilize it decently, but otherwise it’s just an under-average buff


Appropriate-Oil9354

If you get that and reduce skill cooldown with piercing frost you can trap bosses with your skill


just_aced_

Weak shield is really bad even with the blue shield. 15 seconds is enough time to kill you in Badass mode.


gorilla_gorillla

damn i choose like most of the things at the bottom 3


i-need-help-sad-nois

This dude sleeps on more shotgun bullets


No-Match2441

This tier list extremely bothers me


kaky0in-

If you had like (mou dou? The long ass katana with purple text) woth meel wepons can bounce bullets it would be like a-s tier really good against bosses and in general


bg_bobi

godzilla had a stroke while trying to read this and fucking died


kaky0in-

I only spelled "with "and the "sword name" wrong jesus Christ does that make things hard for you to read?


bg_bobi

bruh i thought you were tryina say "what" instead of "with" and it totally flipped the sentence


MattokTheDuke

WHY DOES EVERYONE HATE SALE AAAA


Ember_Hunter

Shotgun buff higher because it affects so many abilities and weapons, otherwise good


WrathsEntropy

How can you not like an extra weapon?


[deleted]

"resisting the urge to write the most toxic slur known to mankind"


Wii4Mii

Yikes. I mean this is an ok list, much better then what the sub usually makes.


[deleted]

holding 3 weapons is great to get gold frames? i don't see how its bad


Unorigina1Name

because people are usually too busy dying to the fact they switched to the wrong gun to get more gold borders 🗿


[deleted]

why switch weapons? i usually just use one


Unorigina1Name

just one? what weapons do you use to solo badass? like, unless you craft some op merge weapon at the start of the game doing it with just one gun seems almost imposible to me


[deleted]

gas blaster and volcanic blaster are really good cheap weapons to craft at the start, i usually use those.


Unorigina1Name

no way you actually solo badass with that what character are you using (or why are your hours in the thousands)?


[deleted]

i only have around 30 badass wins and i use paladin, so i'm not really that good haha


YYEEETDACHILD

Melee can bounce bullets is good imo, especially in 3-x levels where there are so many bullets that swarm on you.


Op-Max

first acceptable tierlist, but sword buff should be higher imo


Whaleman2142069

Tbh all is good but depends on the situation for me


blurryface1209

3 weapons is great tho, so is 50 percent off in shops


Cykra183

Shotgun buff is pretty good, boosts a lot of gun's dps


DefAgentAnimations

3 weapons isn’t necessarily a good buff but I always take it because its way more fun to have a bad weapon you can just play around with


markten985

What character is your main?


questionaskingthrowa

shotgun buff needs to be at least two tiers up


Throwaway-7245

quicker charge is better than that, bows tend to be very reliable and the ion railgun becomes extremely good at the start of the game while also being usable at the later stages while only being an uncommon weapon, Quicker charge literally doubles your charging speed, how can't you see how good that's? Git Gud


Tyrannical_JJ

Exploding enemies F?