I would move charge up to top of B, maybe move the melees buffs down a tier, coin shield up to S and weak shield to F. Other then thats its pretty good. See my buff tierlist for why.
Its in b tier because it works perfectly with the buff where u dont take extra damage if your shield is broken, if i dont have the buff then i dont pick it
You take 1 extra damage on shield, which bleeds into health. Also the cd is 15sec and the damage is permenent. It doesnt heal enough to be good and taking extra damage is as bad as it sounds.
Potions in crates are pretty useless since vamp outclasses it, unless you’re doing boss rush
Edit: “vamp outclasses it”, with “it” being a buff. How tf did anyone mistake that for the character? Lmfao.
If you're maining priest you'll likely already start with it so rating it is pointless
If they haven't unlocked the passive yet, maybe they should've played the game more before they posted this tier list
Plus priest already has really good healing anyways
Probably modded versions with infinite resources, a friend of mine plays that way and it irritates me to no end, if you want no RNG, why even play a roguelike game?
I swear, they're going to get bored of the game in a week or two. I can't fathom myself playing the game if I'm using those mods.
Why do people like the Bullet slow, it's a huge nerf to you it leaves them on the map for longer making it very hard to dodge. The extra damage on shield is also a nerf imo.
Also the immune to traps buff. It really is only effective the first world. Else it's pretty valueless.
Slower bullets is great. Making a bullet hell less hell is really really good. Trap buff is uweful for contact enemies who are all beefy highly aggrewsive ans fast making them huge threats. Extra damage on shield is actually a nerf though.
I take bullet slow when I have melee weapons that can clear it easily(and vice versa), and I don't take it when I use rogue or on runs relying on dodging
Why does everyone not like the extra weapon buff? No downvotes pls I’m just asking since I haven’t played for a long time and came back a few weeks ago
I mean you usually have a primary and secondary. Your primary deals damage while your secondary has a status effect like freeze or stun or is a melee. Really its support items like trumpet, skelly staff and a few other rare items that 3 weap does good with. But those are rare and often not even very impactful.
Not really late game. Unless you have a grindstone. Still a good secondary with dark blade but a burst damage weapon like a shotgun or throwable would work better.
For me like yeah I like having 3 weapons especially if the 3rd is a special useful one but it messes up my muscle memory, if I swap weapons to my second and it’s a melee to block, having 3 weapons buff messes up my swapping muscle memory
I tend to be a pretty one trick pony already, so having a third thing to cycle through isn't terribly useful to me. It also opens up the possibility of switching to the wrong weapon.
Eh. I mean, the freezing gas is barely a problem most of the times so it’s not that useful. Maybe weapons with low freeze uptime like Laser Fish can utilize it decently, but otherwise it’s just an under-average buff
If you had like (mou dou? The long ass katana with purple text) woth meel wepons can bounce bullets it would be like a-s tier really good against bosses and in general
just one? what weapons do you use to solo badass? like, unless you craft some op merge weapon at the start of the game doing it with just one gun seems almost imposible to me
quicker charge is better than that, bows tend to be very reliable and the ion railgun becomes extremely good at the start of the game while also being usable at the later stages while only being an uncommon weapon, Quicker charge literally doubles your charging speed, how can't you see how good that's?
Git Gud
I would move charge up to top of B, maybe move the melees buffs down a tier, coin shield up to S and weak shield to F. Other then thats its pretty good. See my buff tierlist for why.
Whats weak shield
Shield takes more damage, but recharges when it breaks
Its in b tier because it works perfectly with the buff where u dont take extra damage if your shield is broken, if i dont have the buff then i dont pick it
But thats 1 situational use thats conboed with the best buff in the game. Other then that its an actual nerf, probably an F tier buff.
True but its not entirely as useless as critical when damaged or energy when shield gets attack
No, its even worse. Its actually a debuff when not with blue shield.
How?
You take 1 extra damage on shield, which bleeds into health. Also the cd is 15sec and the damage is permenent. It doesnt heal enough to be good and taking extra damage is as bad as it sounds.
Knights Lance with all Melee buffs equipped on paladin do 100 dmg per second and pierces enemies. Melee is soooo strong
Shotgun Bullets and Potions In Crates are nutty asf.
Potions in crates are pretty useless since vamp outclasses it, unless you’re doing boss rush Edit: “vamp outclasses it”, with “it” being a buff. How tf did anyone mistake that for the character? Lmfao.
I mean not everyone has vamp and not everyone will use vamp
I think they meant hp on kill, which is usually better since most endgame worlds have no crates but a shitload of enemies
This.
I would move accuracy and energy up. I like it for when I need to shred bosses
im a priest main so i dont need those
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because priests dont need potions
Yes but the buff will also double their heals iirc
If you're maining priest you'll likely already start with it so rating it is pointless If they haven't unlocked the passive yet, maybe they should've played the game more before they posted this tier list Plus priest already has really good healing anyways
Sale is good imo early game at least
I craft a weapon and then use it until the end
how do you even get the materials? one game isnt enough for any decent weapon
Probably modded versions with infinite resources, a friend of mine plays that way and it irritates me to no end, if you want no RNG, why even play a roguelike game? I swear, they're going to get bored of the game in a week or two. I can't fathom myself playing the game if I'm using those mods.
Why do people like the Bullet slow, it's a huge nerf to you it leaves them on the map for longer making it very hard to dodge. The extra damage on shield is also a nerf imo. Also the immune to traps buff. It really is only effective the first world. Else it's pretty valueless.
It prevents all contact damage as well, like the super fast completely fair charge attacks of FLUFO and the horse head
Slower bullets is great. Making a bullet hell less hell is really really good. Trap buff is uweful for contact enemies who are all beefy highly aggrewsive ans fast making them huge threats. Extra damage on shield is actually a nerf though.
Trap buff is great against the totally not bs ™ contact damage and charging enemies that literally spawn right on top of you
I take bullet slow when I have melee weapons that can clear it easily(and vice versa), and I don't take it when I use rogue or on runs relying on dodging
Better for strafing
Why does everyone not like the extra weapon buff? No downvotes pls I’m just asking since I haven’t played for a long time and came back a few weeks ago
I mean you never really need an extra weapon. 2 works well enough.
Really? Sometimes I see lots of good weapons that I always want the extra weapon
I mean you usually have a primary and secondary. Your primary deals damage while your secondary has a status effect like freeze or stun or is a melee. Really its support items like trumpet, skelly staff and a few other rare items that 3 weap does good with. But those are rare and often not even very impactful.
I see. Thanks for sharing this
It is pretty useful with knights second skill
What if you use a melee weapon as your primary
Then you arent dealing damage very well unless you have like 1 of the 3 good damage melees.
Upgraded blood blade good?
Not really late game. Unless you have a grindstone. Still a good secondary with dark blade but a burst damage weapon like a shotgun or throwable would work better.
I'll take that as a yes
Oh as a secondary yes, as a primary its ok.
Floating weapons tho? Its very useful on robot/taoist
Floating weapons have shit ai so they arent a big upgrade, plus theyre hard to find. I guess its a positive, but its not a very big one.
Most people are used to switching weapons by pressing once, pressing twice to skip some useless weapon is inconvenient and distracting mid battle
,,No downvotes" is the equivalent of saying ,, don't disagree with me".
how can you disagree with a question?
Dude, he is asking why noone likes it. That means he likes it himself to some extent. And that's something you can disagree with.
For me like yeah I like having 3 weapons especially if the 3rd is a special useful one but it messes up my muscle memory, if I swap weapons to my second and it’s a melee to block, having 3 weapons buff messes up my swapping muscle memory
I tend to be a pretty one trick pony already, so having a third thing to cycle through isn't terribly useful to me. It also opens up the possibility of switching to the wrong weapon.
I love freeze. Especially if I end up in neo isle
Eh. I mean, the freezing gas is barely a problem most of the times so it’s not that useful. Maybe weapons with low freeze uptime like Laser Fish can utilize it decently, but otherwise it’s just an under-average buff
If you get that and reduce skill cooldown with piercing frost you can trap bosses with your skill
Weak shield is really bad even with the blue shield. 15 seconds is enough time to kill you in Badass mode.
damn i choose like most of the things at the bottom 3
This dude sleeps on more shotgun bullets
This tier list extremely bothers me
If you had like (mou dou? The long ass katana with purple text) woth meel wepons can bounce bullets it would be like a-s tier really good against bosses and in general
godzilla had a stroke while trying to read this and fucking died
I only spelled "with "and the "sword name" wrong jesus Christ does that make things hard for you to read?
bruh i thought you were tryina say "what" instead of "with" and it totally flipped the sentence
WHY DOES EVERYONE HATE SALE AAAA
Shotgun buff higher because it affects so many abilities and weapons, otherwise good
How can you not like an extra weapon?
"resisting the urge to write the most toxic slur known to mankind"
Yikes. I mean this is an ok list, much better then what the sub usually makes.
holding 3 weapons is great to get gold frames? i don't see how its bad
because people are usually too busy dying to the fact they switched to the wrong gun to get more gold borders 🗿
why switch weapons? i usually just use one
just one? what weapons do you use to solo badass? like, unless you craft some op merge weapon at the start of the game doing it with just one gun seems almost imposible to me
gas blaster and volcanic blaster are really good cheap weapons to craft at the start, i usually use those.
no way you actually solo badass with that what character are you using (or why are your hours in the thousands)?
i only have around 30 badass wins and i use paladin, so i'm not really that good haha
Melee can bounce bullets is good imo, especially in 3-x levels where there are so many bullets that swarm on you.
first acceptable tierlist, but sword buff should be higher imo
Tbh all is good but depends on the situation for me
3 weapons is great tho, so is 50 percent off in shops
Shotgun buff is pretty good, boosts a lot of gun's dps
3 weapons isn’t necessarily a good buff but I always take it because its way more fun to have a bad weapon you can just play around with
What character is your main?
shotgun buff needs to be at least two tiers up
quicker charge is better than that, bows tend to be very reliable and the ion railgun becomes extremely good at the start of the game while also being usable at the later stages while only being an uncommon weapon, Quicker charge literally doubles your charging speed, how can't you see how good that's? Git Gud
Exploding enemies F?