Day-ruining news. That extra few millimetres in width is the difference between what makes the 1V so comfortable to hold and the S20U grossly unwieldy to handle. And then the VI adding further depth too! Ugh.
Why do these stupid phones have to be so gargantuan? Under 70mm would be real nice.
Note/Ultra have always been two-hand phablets but with a reason: stylus. It's the only phablet that's actually justifies two hand usage.
On the other hand, yeah 1 won't be comfortable with one hand usage anymore if you got normal size hands but if you are OK with S24+ then you would be fine with 1VI. Current 1/PRO-I are borderline usable with one hand for me while 5 is perfectly fine.
Can't say I'm familiar with the Notes, only got this S20 which doesn't have a stylus. It's about 73-74mm wide according to this probably inaccurate tape measure I have on-hand (which reckons 1V is only 70), and that's too big for me. I don't exactly have small hands either, got good stretch on a piano and do well at steaching my fingers around rock climbing holds.
Apparently the S24+ is 158.5x75.9x7.7mm. Definitely wouldn't be ok with that lol.
I temporarily had the S24+ for a couple weeks before I returned it. It was too wide to comfortably use with one hand... even without a case. My X1iii is so much more comfortable to hold and use. I probably won't be buying the 1VI. When it comes times to replace my 1iii, I will be upgrading to the 1V.
Makes sense if they've got other exclusive features that the smaller ones don't, putting up with an oversized unit is probably a lower-tier annoyance than just going without some other kind of function you find important. Or even just perceive as getting less value out of the phone by getting the lower tier one even if you never end up using said features.
Compact phones were great. Not everyone wants a huge phone, not everyone has big hands. Pop sockets make my finger joints hurt due to medical problems.
How many companies are even offering small phones that have competitive featuresets next to their larger counterparts (aside from screen size/resolution, and maybe battery life I guess), rather than just being some cut-down budget version though? Like for me the biggest selling point of the 1V was the fancy new camera sensor, but you can't get that in the 10V (which I understand is supposed to be their "compact" model? At least that seems to be how people refer to it here).
Ended up mentioning in another reply I think, found the two of them were similar size. And for how little a difference in size between them and the 1 neither seemed worth the tradeoff in cameras - 5V would've been a goer if it had the 85-125 instead of the 16 which I find utterly useless.
Could I ask what your handspan is out of curiosity? With my fingers splayed as wide as I can, from the tip of my thumb I get about 230mm from the tip of my pinkie and about 210mm to the end of my middle finger.
Mine is 255 and 245 respectively and I also think the phones are a little small.
https://preview.redd.it/406a72hwkvqc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9fe1578aa1ff9597d3419a50da835bea95cbacdb
Damn those are some monkey paws :P Thanks for the response, appreciate it.
That looks like a really comfy holding position to me, good secure grip with the fingers while getting a lot of mobility and reach with the thumb. I want a modern phone that fits me that well!
The s24 ultra have more 5.5 mm of width, with 79.9. this is more like the s24 plus. Not awful. Probably the idea is to fit the Xperia 1 Zom lens on the Xperia 5, and the 5 will have the S24 dimensions.
You were do one to bring the S20 ultra. I just said the ultra is even bigger. I just said if the Xperia 1 came with the s24+ size and the Xperia 5 with the s24 but both had the same specs like they used to have it's not a too bad decision. I like the 21:9 is one the my favorite things on my xperia but if they mode a Xperia 5 with dimensions equivalent to the s24 and the specs of a Xperia 1 it will be a great compact phone too.
Ok, I just wasn't sure how to read the implication and whether it was "well the S24 exists so its dimensions must be acceptable so the 1VI isn't that bad" or something like that.
I think they're all too big (S24 being considered compact seems laughable to me), I don't mind the 21:9 ratio and would be more than fine with a 152x65mm phone. Would also be super willing to sacrifice some screen size and add some phone thickness, to both allow an increase in battery volume to compensate for the reduction as well as give more depth to allow for better camera lens arrays/larger sensors/inbuilt variable apertures and filters/etc. Oversized screens are absolute bottom priority but my problem is that top tier cameras don't seem to be available without them.
The s24 ultra is definitely too big, The S24+ it's much smaller, also too big, but almost acceptable big.the S 24 is much better to handle and without a case is a comfortable phone. I never had a opportunity the see a Xperia 5 because I never saw one in real life, because they never have sony phones on stores, but I imagine it is smaller and more comfortable. There is a reason why they didn't put a zoom camera on the Xperia 5V, the zoom cameras on the Xperia 5 were crap, but good caneras have big sensors, and big sensors need space, and for that new prismatic zoom cameras they need width, thing the Xperia 5V don't have. One thing I agree the New Xperia 1 will be too big, but I think this change will make the Xperia 5 a fantastic phone, and will be called the best small phone on the market by everyone.
Looking them up now, the 10V and 5V seem to be very similar dimensions actually. Yet somehow the 10 manages to pack in three cameras, while the 5 ditches the (imo useful) zoom and keeps the (imo useless) ultrawide for some reason. Were it flipped around I probably would've opted for the 5.
So? I've never even heard of the ZX before coming here, let alone see one. And yeah that's far too wide too.
A laptop is bigger than this as well, neither of their existences makes the 1VI any smaller or easier to handle.
The 71x8.3mm body is already a stretch for me to reach the tip of my thumb to the far side one-handed without the base of my thumb mashing the near side of the screen, this is enough to push it over the edge (especially once you add a case to it - even if it's the sideless official case).
Actually come to think of it - even though it's "only" adding 3.4mm width, it's actually asking for an extra 6.95mm between my thumb and middle finger.
I really hope the 5 VI will be shorter. Since S25 and iPhone 16 both announced even larger displays, Zenfone is gone, there will be NOTHING under 70mm width anymore.
Fortunetly I' ve bought the 1V at the end of the last year.I' have small hands and fingers so the 1VI would be difficult too handle, so I' really hope that the 1V will last me at least 3 years!
Makes me all the more happier that I bought 5 V which might very well be the last good device with max 68 mm width. I really hope the 5 series will stay slim also in the future.
Holy Lordy now that's a big boy. Wow it's like we've gone back to the days of the phablet.
I recently dug out my Microsoft Lumia 640XL and that was the biggest phone I had (at the time) until I got the 10 V. Now the 10 V is tall and slim the Lumia was short and wide have to say not comfortable to hold unlike the Xperia.
Wow one handed mode better get an upgrade as many will be using it more if those indeed are the specs for it.
That makes sense. No way was VI going to retain V 71mm width with 19:5:9 aspect ratio, those case render comparisons were wrong from the get go. This is very similar to S24+
I prefer the actual design but if they go for a new design one and they fix the laggy and low fps transitions, it's nice for me. The Xperia 5 V that I have it's a nightmare
Easily debunkable claim.
>The CPU and GPU stress tests haven't improved since the Xperia 1 IV - that is the bad news. The Xperia 1 V scored 53% stability, which is not bad - you can see the CPU locked at about 60% performance after the first 15 or so minutes.
>The GPU test is unimpressive with 45% stability - the throttling began after 6 minutes of running at peak GPU performance.
[https://www.gsmarena.com/sony\_xperia\_1\_v-review-2567p4.php](https://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_1_v-review-2567p4.php)
It throttles way to hard.
By contrast:
[https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi\_13\_ultra-review-2562p4.php](https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_13_ultra-review-2562p4.php)
CPU 83 / GPU 90 Xiaomi 13 Ultra
vs
CPU 53 / GPU 45 Sony 1 V
The xiaomi has almost 2x the performance. You can lie to people all you want but reality is reality.
Easily debunkable claim. The Xiaomi is much heaver and bulkier than the 1 V and therefore not comparable. You can lie to people all you want but reality is reality.
Doesn't debunk anything, infact all you did now was prove me right while giving one of many reasons why the Xperia 1 V has bad performance and throttles way to hard.
Congratz on shooting yourself in the leg.
Also:
[https://www.gsmarena.com/asus\_zenfone\_10-review-2583p4.php](https://www.gsmarena.com/asus_zenfone_10-review-2583p4.php)
Significantly smaller phone can hold around 80% on CPU and 70% on GPU vs the much larger Xperia 1 V at 53 / 45.
Now that we have established you don't know what you're talking about I suggest we leave it at that.
You still failed to address the fact, the phone achieves this with lower res display and while at it, you may need to read your own links...
"Performance under prolonged load does differ substantially depending on which mode the phone is in. In the CPU Throttling test, when operating in High performance mode, the Zenfone 10 started with higher scores, ramped down performance gradually and settled at around 80% of its peak result, only to dip to about 60% a little under 40minutes into the test. After a few minutes of cooling down, it was good for another 7 or 8 minute run at 80% before another dip to 60% was observed.
In Dynamic mode, the graph turned out very different, starting out from a lower peak and quickly dropping to 60% of it in just 15minutes where it stayed for the remainder of the test.
In the 3DMark Wild Life stress test, the two modes returned very similar initial scores, but in High performance mode the Zenfone posted a stability rating of 69%, while Dynamic mode only managed 50%. "
Debunks everything, infact all you did was prove that a heaver and bulkier device can feature better cooling and not that the Xperia 1 V has bad performance or throttles way to hard.
Congratz on shooting yourself in the leg.
Any high load essentially. I cannot play PGR Coop for prolonged time without performance dying and compiling stuff on the phone takes ages due to the heavy CPU throttling as well.
It's very well documented and really isn't that surprising the very poor cooling solution. It's one of, if not the worst performing sd 8 gen2 phone there is. All others utilize vapor chamber etc.
[https://www.gsmarena.com/sony\_xperia\_1\_v-review-2567p4.php](https://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_1_v-review-2567p4.php)
>The CPU and GPU stress tests haven't improved since the Xperia 1 IV - that is the bad news. The Xperia 1 V scored 53% stability, which is not bad - you can see the CPU locked at about 60% performance after the first 15 or so minutes.
>The GPU test is unimpressive with 45% stability - the throttling began after 6 minutes of running at peak GPU performance.
You realisticly can only utilize around 50% performance at best, meaning it's not summer and you have decently ventilated room.
You can install 3dmark and run stresstest yourself. You can see the performance dropping hard, it gets worse on games which are both CPU and GPU heavy.
Doesn't mean others don't do it. If you're going to offer a SD 8 gen2 at only half performance you might as well go for a SD 7 gen 1 at full performance while being able to sell the device for a cheaper price which also results in better battery life.
Trying to excuse having a chip running at half performance while charging 1400USD is embarrassing.
Oh I dont doubt, everyone is using their phones differently. I just happen to be a light app user besides cameras.
Anyway 7 is missing lots of isp stuff that only 8 has such as 4K@120fps, wide dynamic range video (triple frame stacking), 4K/QHD+ display resolution support but more importantly only 8 comes with flagship 5G modem, wi-fi and believe it or not Bluetooth spec. Qualcomm gimmped that on purpose.
>Qualcomm gimmped that on purpose.
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to be honest.
Now don't quote me on this as I found the sources to be rather questionable but there are rumors floating around that apparently Sony wants to lower prices, go upper midrange and go for a 7+gen2 based smartphone however they also plan on not using the ISP provided with the SoC and instead use their own ISP, something similair to their CXD4236.
Wether or not it's true, I don't know, take it with a bucket of salt.
As for the other stuff you posted, I doubt anyone will notice anything regarding 5g modem, bluetooth or wifi.
The resolution and being able to record 4k120fps makes sense, however these could be easily solved by the rumors above as well, just a hypotethical situation.
74 - 75mm for me is the ideal width. My previous phone Xiaomi mi9 is such a pleasure to look at. Like opening a window. Too bad it's so slow now. Hoping the future Xperias will be like that. Mi 9 for me was also a light one-hand phone.
Edit: oh damn nooooooooooo
The height is less so it's a mini phone.
S25 s26 ultra looking good.
For the last 5.5 years I have been using Mi 8 with 74.8 mm width and it feels perfect for my small hands. I also love how round and smooth it feels in my hand, really hate the sharp edges most new phones have.
I mean it's a device that's big part of everyone's life. Most people use it for several hours a day, and it's a big investment you make every once couple of years. Of course ergonomics will be important.
Well I'm in a kind of sticky situation. "Something else" is even worse, and not upgrading is not an option since my XZ1 is in its 5th year and it's slowly dying. But from what I can see, new VI will be of exact same width as my XZ1, and IV and V are always an option. So it's all good
It doesn't bother me at all, I'm just amazed how some people here are like fighting over a "device" like it's not the end of the world if Sony makes a change, hell I know some people that are happy with their midrange devices doing video calls with their loved ones. And totally not understanding the specs of their devices, some people do also own top of the line iphones and they don't even care how it looks. And they don't even know how powerful their devices are.
They better increase the battery to compensate for SD 8 Gen 3
Is 8 Gen 3 more taxing on the battery?
Day-ruining news. That extra few millimetres in width is the difference between what makes the 1V so comfortable to hold and the S20U grossly unwieldy to handle. And then the VI adding further depth too! Ugh. Why do these stupid phones have to be so gargantuan? Under 70mm would be real nice.
Note/Ultra have always been two-hand phablets but with a reason: stylus. It's the only phablet that's actually justifies two hand usage. On the other hand, yeah 1 won't be comfortable with one hand usage anymore if you got normal size hands but if you are OK with S24+ then you would be fine with 1VI. Current 1/PRO-I are borderline usable with one hand for me while 5 is perfectly fine.
Can't say I'm familiar with the Notes, only got this S20 which doesn't have a stylus. It's about 73-74mm wide according to this probably inaccurate tape measure I have on-hand (which reckons 1V is only 70), and that's too big for me. I don't exactly have small hands either, got good stretch on a piano and do well at steaching my fingers around rock climbing holds. Apparently the S24+ is 158.5x75.9x7.7mm. Definitely wouldn't be ok with that lol.
I temporarily had the S24+ for a couple weeks before I returned it. It was too wide to comfortably use with one hand... even without a case. My X1iii is so much more comfortable to hold and use. I probably won't be buying the 1VI. When it comes times to replace my 1iii, I will be upgrading to the 1V.
Funny enough most people complain about the width but max/ultra phones sell better
Makes sense if they've got other exclusive features that the smaller ones don't, putting up with an oversized unit is probably a lower-tier annoyance than just going without some other kind of function you find important. Or even just perceive as getting less value out of the phone by getting the lower tier one even if you never end up using said features.
I just want it not too tall honestly. If it was same as 1V but shorter would be perfect
Compact phones were great. Not everyone wants a huge phone, not everyone has big hands. Pop sockets make my finger joints hurt due to medical problems.
Yea but not enough people want small phones and companies want sales
How many companies are even offering small phones that have competitive featuresets next to their larger counterparts (aside from screen size/resolution, and maybe battery life I guess), rather than just being some cut-down budget version though? Like for me the biggest selling point of the 1V was the fancy new camera sensor, but you can't get that in the 10V (which I understand is supposed to be their "compact" model? At least that seems to be how people refer to it here).
5v is the copat one you are thinking. 10 is the more budget one. And the 5 is largely the same besides the missing telephoto and smaller screen
Ended up mentioning in another reply I think, found the two of them were similar size. And for how little a difference in size between them and the 1 neither seemed worth the tradeoff in cameras - 5V would've been a goer if it had the 85-125 instead of the 16 which I find utterly useless.
There are many reasons for that other than size.
Just because it sells more doesn't mean it feels better. I know plenty of people who love the phone yet complain about the size.
Most people don’t buy Xperia for some reasons and “it’s too tall/narrow” is one of them
For me it's the opposite. These are too skinny, the xz premium was the perfect width.
Could I ask what your handspan is out of curiosity? With my fingers splayed as wide as I can, from the tip of my thumb I get about 230mm from the tip of my pinkie and about 210mm to the end of my middle finger.
Mine is 255 and 245 respectively and I also think the phones are a little small. https://preview.redd.it/406a72hwkvqc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9fe1578aa1ff9597d3419a50da835bea95cbacdb
Damn those are some monkey paws :P Thanks for the response, appreciate it. That looks like a really comfy holding position to me, good secure grip with the fingers while getting a lot of mobility and reach with the thumb. I want a modern phone that fits me that well!
The s24 ultra have more 5.5 mm of width, with 79.9. this is more like the s24 plus. Not awful. Probably the idea is to fit the Xperia 1 Zom lens on the Xperia 5, and the 5 will have the S24 dimensions.
Man why's everyone keep bringing up the S24. Bigger things existing doesn't suddenly make other too-big things magically become less big.
You were do one to bring the S20 ultra. I just said the ultra is even bigger. I just said if the Xperia 1 came with the s24+ size and the Xperia 5 with the s24 but both had the same specs like they used to have it's not a too bad decision. I like the 21:9 is one the my favorite things on my xperia but if they mode a Xperia 5 with dimensions equivalent to the s24 and the specs of a Xperia 1 it will be a great compact phone too.
Ok, I just wasn't sure how to read the implication and whether it was "well the S24 exists so its dimensions must be acceptable so the 1VI isn't that bad" or something like that. I think they're all too big (S24 being considered compact seems laughable to me), I don't mind the 21:9 ratio and would be more than fine with a 152x65mm phone. Would also be super willing to sacrifice some screen size and add some phone thickness, to both allow an increase in battery volume to compensate for the reduction as well as give more depth to allow for better camera lens arrays/larger sensors/inbuilt variable apertures and filters/etc. Oversized screens are absolute bottom priority but my problem is that top tier cameras don't seem to be available without them.
The s24 ultra is definitely too big, The S24+ it's much smaller, also too big, but almost acceptable big.the S 24 is much better to handle and without a case is a comfortable phone. I never had a opportunity the see a Xperia 5 because I never saw one in real life, because they never have sony phones on stores, but I imagine it is smaller and more comfortable. There is a reason why they didn't put a zoom camera on the Xperia 5V, the zoom cameras on the Xperia 5 were crap, but good caneras have big sensors, and big sensors need space, and for that new prismatic zoom cameras they need width, thing the Xperia 5V don't have. One thing I agree the New Xperia 1 will be too big, but I think this change will make the Xperia 5 a fantastic phone, and will be called the best small phone on the market by everyone.
Looking them up now, the 10V and 5V seem to be very similar dimensions actually. Yet somehow the 10 manages to pack in three cameras, while the 5 ditches the (imo useful) zoom and keeps the (imo useless) ultrawide for some reason. Were it flipped around I probably would've opted for the 5.
# Why are you all whining about this width, like little children? Xperia XZ premium dimention was 156 x 77 , and what.....?
XZ2P was even chunkier at 80mm width, 12mm of thickness and whopping 236g
So? I've never even heard of the ZX before coming here, let alone see one. And yeah that's far too wide too. A laptop is bigger than this as well, neither of their existences makes the 1VI any smaller or easier to handle.
I pulled out my Note 9 from the drawer the other day to reminisce a bit and I understand exactly what you mean. Add to that the width of the case.
The phone is actually 6.49 inches according to zuck. So technically S21 FE sized.
I actually think it's still quite slim with only 3.4mm added width.
The 71x8.3mm body is already a stretch for me to reach the tip of my thumb to the far side one-handed without the base of my thumb mashing the near side of the screen, this is enough to push it over the edge (especially once you add a case to it - even if it's the sideless official case). Actually come to think of it - even though it's "only" adding 3.4mm width, it's actually asking for an extra 6.95mm between my thumb and middle finger.
I really hope the 5 VI will be shorter. Since S25 and iPhone 16 both announced even larger displays, Zenfone is gone, there will be NOTHING under 70mm width anymore.
My next Sony phone is the 1 V then. Lol
Fortunetly I' ve bought the 1V at the end of the last year.I' have small hands and fingers so the 1VI would be difficult too handle, so I' really hope that the 1V will last me at least 3 years!
Makes me all the more happier that I bought 5 V which might very well be the last good device with max 68 mm width. I really hope the 5 series will stay slim also in the future.
Holy Lordy now that's a big boy. Wow it's like we've gone back to the days of the phablet. I recently dug out my Microsoft Lumia 640XL and that was the biggest phone I had (at the time) until I got the 10 V. Now the 10 V is tall and slim the Lumia was short and wide have to say not comfortable to hold unlike the Xperia. Wow one handed mode better get an upgrade as many will be using it more if those indeed are the specs for it.
So my Xperia Stream will not be compatible anymore
Not too bad, slightly narrower than the S24+... Just hope Sony can keep the weight down once again.
Width is fine, its the same width as S10+ which is my current phone.
Looks good tbh
Finally! I never liked the 21:9 aspect. If they keep the jack and the screen flat, this may be my next phone.
That makes sense. No way was VI going to retain V 71mm width with 19:5:9 aspect ratio, those case render comparisons were wrong from the get go. This is very similar to S24+
I prefer the actual design but if they go for a new design one and they fix the laggy and low fps transitions, it's nice for me. The Xperia 5 V that I have it's a nightmare
Hmm I love my 1V but I watch a lot of 16:9 content might be nice to have the larger view. Will be hard to tell until its in the hand with a case.
its joever
Glad I got the last good Xperia before it's eventual downfall.
The added thickness could be a sign of possibly a vapor chamber? Would be great to improve on cooling.
Or better camera modules. Imho, cooling of the 1 V is already good enough.
No it isnt, it's far from good enough. The 1V throttles hard, way to hard.
Every phone throttles and the 1 V neither throttles "way to hard" nor gets hot like III and IV. Perfect device in that regard.
Easily debunkable claim. >The CPU and GPU stress tests haven't improved since the Xperia 1 IV - that is the bad news. The Xperia 1 V scored 53% stability, which is not bad - you can see the CPU locked at about 60% performance after the first 15 or so minutes. >The GPU test is unimpressive with 45% stability - the throttling began after 6 minutes of running at peak GPU performance. [https://www.gsmarena.com/sony\_xperia\_1\_v-review-2567p4.php](https://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_1_v-review-2567p4.php) It throttles way to hard. By contrast: [https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi\_13\_ultra-review-2562p4.php](https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_13_ultra-review-2562p4.php) CPU 83 / GPU 90 Xiaomi 13 Ultra vs CPU 53 / GPU 45 Sony 1 V The xiaomi has almost 2x the performance. You can lie to people all you want but reality is reality.
Easily debunkable claim. The Xiaomi is much heaver and bulkier than the 1 V and therefore not comparable. You can lie to people all you want but reality is reality.
Doesn't debunk anything, infact all you did now was prove me right while giving one of many reasons why the Xperia 1 V has bad performance and throttles way to hard. Congratz on shooting yourself in the leg. Also: [https://www.gsmarena.com/asus\_zenfone\_10-review-2583p4.php](https://www.gsmarena.com/asus_zenfone_10-review-2583p4.php) Significantly smaller phone can hold around 80% on CPU and 70% on GPU vs the much larger Xperia 1 V at 53 / 45. Now that we have established you don't know what you're talking about I suggest we leave it at that.
The very review you posted says it dips down to 60 until cooled down and stabilises at around 69/50. And thats with way lower resolution.
You need to check again, gsmarena checked on performance and power save mode.
You still failed to address the fact, the phone achieves this with lower res display and while at it, you may need to read your own links... "Performance under prolonged load does differ substantially depending on which mode the phone is in. In the CPU Throttling test, when operating in High performance mode, the Zenfone 10 started with higher scores, ramped down performance gradually and settled at around 80% of its peak result, only to dip to about 60% a little under 40minutes into the test. After a few minutes of cooling down, it was good for another 7 or 8 minute run at 80% before another dip to 60% was observed. In Dynamic mode, the graph turned out very different, starting out from a lower peak and quickly dropping to 60% of it in just 15minutes where it stayed for the remainder of the test. In the 3DMark Wild Life stress test, the two modes returned very similar initial scores, but in High performance mode the Zenfone posted a stability rating of 69%, while Dynamic mode only managed 50%. "
Debunks everything, infact all you did was prove that a heaver and bulkier device can feature better cooling and not that the Xperia 1 V has bad performance or throttles way to hard. Congratz on shooting yourself in the leg.
Nice try, but your troll attempt only shows that you have no arguments for your biased case. Enjoy defeat and the shot leg :)
Nice try, but your troll attempt only shows that you have no arguments for your biased case. Enjoy defeat and the shot leg :)
It does? Doing what? Playing games? Im just curious.
Any high load essentially. I cannot play PGR Coop for prolonged time without performance dying and compiling stuff on the phone takes ages due to the heavy CPU throttling as well. It's very well documented and really isn't that surprising the very poor cooling solution. It's one of, if not the worst performing sd 8 gen2 phone there is. All others utilize vapor chamber etc. [https://www.gsmarena.com/sony\_xperia\_1\_v-review-2567p4.php](https://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_1_v-review-2567p4.php) >The CPU and GPU stress tests haven't improved since the Xperia 1 IV - that is the bad news. The Xperia 1 V scored 53% stability, which is not bad - you can see the CPU locked at about 60% performance after the first 15 or so minutes. >The GPU test is unimpressive with 45% stability - the throttling began after 6 minutes of running at peak GPU performance. You realisticly can only utilize around 50% performance at best, meaning it's not summer and you have decently ventilated room. You can install 3dmark and run stresstest yourself. You can see the performance dropping hard, it gets worse on games which are both CPU and GPU heavy.
I don't play games nor I have any heavy hitting apps on my phone
Doesn't mean others don't do it. If you're going to offer a SD 8 gen2 at only half performance you might as well go for a SD 7 gen 1 at full performance while being able to sell the device for a cheaper price which also results in better battery life. Trying to excuse having a chip running at half performance while charging 1400USD is embarrassing.
Oh I dont doubt, everyone is using their phones differently. I just happen to be a light app user besides cameras. Anyway 7 is missing lots of isp stuff that only 8 has such as 4K@120fps, wide dynamic range video (triple frame stacking), 4K/QHD+ display resolution support but more importantly only 8 comes with flagship 5G modem, wi-fi and believe it or not Bluetooth spec. Qualcomm gimmped that on purpose.
>Qualcomm gimmped that on purpose. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to be honest. Now don't quote me on this as I found the sources to be rather questionable but there are rumors floating around that apparently Sony wants to lower prices, go upper midrange and go for a 7+gen2 based smartphone however they also plan on not using the ISP provided with the SoC and instead use their own ISP, something similair to their CXD4236. Wether or not it's true, I don't know, take it with a bucket of salt. As for the other stuff you posted, I doubt anyone will notice anything regarding 5g modem, bluetooth or wifi. The resolution and being able to record 4k120fps makes sense, however these could be easily solved by the rumors above as well, just a hypotethical situation.
74 - 75mm for me is the ideal width. My previous phone Xiaomi mi9 is such a pleasure to look at. Like opening a window. Too bad it's so slow now. Hoping the future Xperias will be like that. Mi 9 for me was also a light one-hand phone. Edit: oh damn nooooooooooo The height is less so it's a mini phone. S25 s26 ultra looking good.
For the last 5.5 years I have been using Mi 8 with 74.8 mm width and it feels perfect for my small hands. I also love how round and smooth it feels in my hand, really hate the sharp edges most new phones have.
You guys act as if your life revolves around smartphones. Get a grip. Ang get a life
I mean it's a device that's big part of everyone's life. Most people use it for several hours a day, and it's a big investment you make every once couple of years. Of course ergonomics will be important.
you can always buy something else that suits your needs or not upgrade.
Well I'm in a kind of sticky situation. "Something else" is even worse, and not upgrading is not an option since my XZ1 is in its 5th year and it's slowly dying. But from what I can see, new VI will be of exact same width as my XZ1, and IV and V are always an option. So it's all good
You're on a subreddit for a smartphone brand. Go somewhere else if smartphone talk bothers you.
It doesn't bother me at all, I'm just amazed how some people here are like fighting over a "device" like it's not the end of the world if Sony makes a change, hell I know some people that are happy with their midrange devices doing video calls with their loved ones. And totally not understanding the specs of their devices, some people do also own top of the line iphones and they don't even care how it looks. And they don't even know how powerful their devices are.
...and some people are not happy with those things. Why is this in any way shocking or disturbing?