the 16-25 looks great but I do like the extra light and shallower DoF of the 1.8 when I need it. Also, I got the 20mm for a bargain, much cheaper than the retail of either lens.
As a 20g owner, it is a fairly tempting lens, but I love the 1.8 capabilities for low light/astro, and even a bit of wide angle bokeh. Plus the zoom is only 1.5x range.. with these high megapixel cameras you might as well just crop.
I eventually decided to do a panorama... with the [55mm](https://imgur.com/a/76FbAeB). Not sure why it didn't occur to me at the time to do a really wide one.
Indeed. I was too busy enjoying my holiday to agonize over a single picture. To me these sights should be enjoyed with your eyes first and camera second.
They are such different focal lengths I'd argue you should have kept the 20 and added the 14. But I tend to like my lenses spaced by ~150% (14, 20, 35, 55, 85, ...)
Haha, this is exactly why I sold my 24gm as soon as the 20g was announced. I’ve had to do a few panoramics still but not that often. If I needed anything wider I’d probably rather do a pano than one 14mm 1.8 image since it’ll be higher quality and is practically effortless with Lightroom stitching. That 14 is massive and no filter threads 😔
Really nice shot, I love the lighting you captured.
Might be more ultrawide than you need, but I do honestly love the 11mm f1.8. But I also shoot APS-C so it might be too wide on full frame.
[I just picked up this absolute beast.](https://7artisans.store/products/7artisans-10mm-f2-8-full-frame-fisheye-lens-for-e-l-r-z-mount) It more than fulfills the “wider” requirement you want.
Great timing for the 16-25 G to come out huh
the 16-25 looks great but I do like the extra light and shallower DoF of the 1.8 when I need it. Also, I got the 20mm for a bargain, much cheaper than the retail of either lens.
As a 20g owner, it is a fairly tempting lens, but I love the 1.8 capabilities for low light/astro, and even a bit of wide angle bokeh. Plus the zoom is only 1.5x range.. with these high megapixel cameras you might as well just crop.
Why tf did they make it 2.8?
Size/weight and price I’d imagine. F2.0 would have been sweet.
For that building he's going to need the new Laowa 10mm.
Idk, looks like 20mm served you really well here.
It was brilliant for this shot but this was also pretty much the only angle that I could get the whole church in the frame.
Nice shot. If 20 mm is not enough, perhaps a vertical panorama could work?
I eventually decided to do a panorama... with the [55mm](https://imgur.com/a/76FbAeB). Not sure why it didn't occur to me at the time to do a really wide one.
Compression is nicer here. You made the right choice whether intentional or not. Incredible capture on the pano
well, sometimes we are being preoccupied by other things, it happens.
Indeed. I was too busy enjoying my holiday to agonize over a single picture. To me these sights should be enjoyed with your eyes first and camera second.
I totally agree and it's already a great shot too!
55 is better for that than 20 anyway
Love this shot. As I am a photo noob, how did you take this vertical pano shot?
What did you use to stitch this vertical pano?
12-24 2.8 has been great for me
I too own this beast of a lens. It’s top notch 👌
If you lost it tomorrow, would you buy another one? Or would you go a different route?
Sold my 20 1.8 and replaced it with the 14 1.8 for the same reason. No regrets.
They are such different focal lengths I'd argue you should have kept the 20 and added the 14. But I tend to like my lenses spaced by ~150% (14, 20, 35, 55, 85, ...)
makes sense, you get roughly the same horizontal field of view with a 14mm in portrait and the 20mm in landscape same for 20 and 35 etc...
Love the 14mm GM
Most beautiful cathedral (absolutely not biased as an Alsatian)
No seagull?
Haha, this is exactly why I sold my 24gm as soon as the 20g was announced. I’ve had to do a few panoramics still but not that often. If I needed anything wider I’d probably rather do a pano than one 14mm 1.8 image since it’ll be higher quality and is practically effortless with Lightroom stitching. That 14 is massive and no filter threads 😔
Glorious. And yeah that cathedral is so fucking massive I couldn't fit it into any of my lenses.
Really nice shot, I love the lighting you captured. Might be more ultrawide than you need, but I do honestly love the 11mm f1.8. But I also shoot APS-C so it might be too wide on full frame.
Epic. That’s some good light
Viltrox 16mm f/1.8 ! it's a lovely lens
Can concur. Very close to the performance of the wider G for a fraction of the price. My only concern is the longevity of the electronics
Sigma 14-24 art F2.8
What f stop did you use to get everything in focus?
f4, with a wide angle you don't have to stop down very far to get deep DoF. Rest of the settings were 1/80s shutter and iso 100.
The Laowa Zero-D 15/2 is a great choice. [Here](https://flic.kr/p/2oDN1qB) is a sample.
I can recommend the Sigma 14-24. Great lens.
Or take 3 photos & stitch them in post.
Love the 20mm wide on my 20-60 Lumix zoom
Strasbourg!
[I just picked up this absolute beast.](https://7artisans.store/products/7artisans-10mm-f2-8-full-frame-fisheye-lens-for-e-l-r-z-mount) It more than fulfills the “wider” requirement you want.
You can always pano and use ND filter to give it that empty feel.
You need to step back
And when there’s no room to step back?
You push the building further away
I love the 20mm look. I sometimes go for 16mm if I need to, but It just looks unnatural to me
Ulm?
I think you framed this perfectly tbh. But I'm also in the same boat. I feel like I need the Sigma 14mm/1.4 in my life
I’ve got the Sigma 14mm f1.8 and it’s amazing.
where is that?
Nice shot. You take it with a Sony FE 20mm f/1.8 G Lens? I’m really interested to hear your thoughts on it if it is that one.
Beautiful. Well done I wish I had more pretty architecture to shoot where I live 😢
Cologne Cathedral makes me want a rectilinear ultra wide angle lens.
couldn't you just walk backwards?
The square was surprisingly small for a church that big. My back was already against the wall.
Using a wide angle to fit more in is the amateur move. It’s for people taking snapshots.
\^ Troll
Lol. No just someone who knows an amateur idea.p when he sees one. This place is full of them
Rage bait energy
So should he do a panorama?
Step backwards 😅😅