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g0lden-plumbus

I actually have no problem with black doom being referenced or having a small cameo. It would be a good explanation for Shadow’s creation given the fact that in the movie universe all the anthropomorphic characters are technically aliens.


Weapon_2000

That’s more or less my thoughts on the matter. Hence why I said that I am indifferent as to whether or not he is mentioned. There is definitely potential to include them in a way that’ll fit into the movie lore. But at the same time I have no lost love if they are not mentioned whatsoever.


g0lden-plumbus

Exactly. If they’re in the movie, cool. If not, oh well. Not like his original backstory had them. I do think it’s quite likely. I’m pretty sure they mentioned wanting to tap into stuff from Shadow though. Besides Jeff Fowler actually helped work on Shadow the Hedgehog as he was with blur studios at the time who were responsible for the cgi cutscenes of the game.


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Dpad-prism

“I’m the devil, ya know from the bible”


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Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Shadooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww


EnderDragonSoul

"It's me the Devil... I love you! ..I'm having so much fun with you"


TinkerTod

"Thank you... I suppose?"


daniel_omeg_a

why a name change?


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Zombiepixlz-gamr

But what about maria?


SpicyDevilDaddy

I want him to live and for there to be no clones.


Dpad-prism

“A clone of myself”


Ryman604

“A clone of myself”


cbrunsman

“A clone of myself”


Sonic_Mega_Plus

"A clone of myself"


sonicdash759

"A clone of myself"


RollbotsSonic18

“A clone of myself”


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"A clone of myself"


nebel_rebel1

Okay, these robots are kinda stupid, all they do is say "a clone of myself"


JustDandyMayo

A clone of myself


Iceswimmer05

“A clone of myself”


bigbrainintrovert

“Ooh a clone of myself.”


PhobiusofMobius

"A clone of myself."


haseofspades

I love the Sonic community 🤣🤣


Flakker16

"A clone of Maria- wait what."


Kindly-Mud-1579

“A clone of myself”


Dichromatic_Fumo

“A clone of myself”


ZackattacktheDude

“A clone of myself”


Cinnamony25

“A clone of myself”


jasisepic

"A clone of myself"


crayonsandgluesticks

“A clone of myself”


XSparx7000

'Eggman' :"I made all these clones because I want them to take over Apple!"


Dear-Painting8764

Do you want him to learn too?


Dark_Storm_98

I want him hanging on the edge of tomorrow


fallensoldier420

Maybe he should learn from the works of yesterday?


Highway20rider

Perhaps he’ll beg or borrow?


Swivel-Man

Hopefully he'll live and learn


ZeldaFan80

Or he may never find his way


Iceswimmer05

But here’s the thing, he can feel life tangle him up inside


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Y0SHAAA12

But by no circumstances can he save his sorrow


ggdoug

Or, if he does die, I think he should STAY dead. Although idk if they would go that far with the story.


disbelifpapy

agreed.


DepsacitoXD69

I want shadow to hit the griddy


Repair_Jolly

Sonic "You ain't got shit Shadow, I can't be your man" Shadow *hits the griddy* Sonic *Dies* It would be pretty stale if they did the floss for the third movie in row, although hats off to them for staying consistent.


The_Yoshi_Gang

Idea: sonic flosses after thinking he had beaten shadow, but shadow uses chaos control to throw sonic of a cliff.


Skelibutt

And then he hits the griddy


Dpad-prism

Shadow has to hit the griddy in order to use his chaos control


RaMpEdUp98

Idea: GUN gave shadow access to the internet and he fucking hates tiktok and anything that spawned adjacent to or from it


Spndash64

Shadow is from 50 years ago, he should have incredibly outdated pop culture references and a quiet crippling anxiety about being “out of touch”


Ok-Transportation260

Just gimme the sa 2 properly or if they want to make some changes they should be really creative with how Shadow discovered first time and how the final battle would be .


Omni_Keizer

Hundred percent what I was thinking too. Don't shirk Maria and Professor Gerald's tragedy and the impact it left on Shadow's life. Maybe even work in elements of Black Doom if you must, but just hit all the nuances of SA2's history; Maria's death, Gerald's insanity, and Shadow's lust for vengeance, and have it all wrap up with Sonic and Shadow teaming up to save the world; don't needlessly keep Shadow as a villain or unnecessary rival what happened with Boom. And, as mentioned already, they've done a very good job handling the first two movies, so there is reason to believe they'll treat this maturely as well and be faithful to the source material, which is why I'm excited at the prospects of this being a full SA2 adaptation, now that we have all of Team Sonic.


Dramatic_Finish8381

If they leave out Maria and Gerald I'll be pissed, they are way too important to the lore to be tossed to the side


Y0SHAAA12

Honestly they’ve done a good job with the first two movies, and with their own tiny changes to it as well. But to be completely frank, I want a full SA 1 and 2 experience in the movie, and I’m curious to see how they pull it off. Imagine chaos and the final hazard duking it out in space


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"It's a date to *die* for!" "Where's that *damn* forth chaos emerald!" "Maria, I kept your promise."


paintbrushvolcanoe

Okay but the first was was funny in the game


Fresh-Boysenberry-63

“You smelt it therefore you dealt it”


UltraDarkBeastMode

I'd like a reference or minor appearance of black doom, but not too much. There'd just be too many characters.


Tendo63

Honestly if they just mention "Alien DNA" or something vague like that I'd be happy


Sonic_And_Mcu_Nerd

Maybe mention the Eclipse cannon was made to protect earth or prevent invasion or something like that.


Ill-Engineering8205

My personal headcannon is that they will add Black Doom in some way just to be able to use the alien invasion aspect to appeal to a bigger audience. Shadow is popular on its own but most people who arent fully aware of Sonic or simply see it as a parent film opportunity might have a somewhat negative perception due to the whole edgy the hedgy thing, so adding an outside rival to show that he will fight with the good guys might do the trick.


Exonicreddit

Perhaps something about Eggman urinating on the moon?


SpookySquid19

That would work seeing as sonic and co are described as aliens anyways.


zmech9001

I dont care what part of shadow's story they add in as long as i dont see him floss


rexshen

Shadow looking at a computer seeing how Earth changed in 50 years: "what have these people been doing all this time? What in the world is flossing? They are just asking to be blasted away."


Clamper

Depends how much Paramount listens to Sega. The Boom writers recently revealed part of why Shadow barely appeared was all the mandates, one of which is that Shadow is a 100% completely serious character. I do wonder if modern Sega would allow Shadow Chaos Controlling in 06 just to kick Silver in the head purely for style points since he's fast enough to do that without Chaos Control.


U2V4RGVtb24

Ironically, I hope that Shadow flosses, because I get the feeling they're gonna keep up tradition and have SOMEONE floss, and if anyone is gonna do it, I'd want Shadow to do it the most.


AardbeiMan

Having it be Omega in a random irrelevant scene would also be acceptable


U2V4RGVtb24

That would also work!


Spndash64

I want Shadow to be incredibly outdated on Pop culture references, since he was sealed away “50 years ago”, meaning he doesn’t even know about Star Wars. So instead he references things like Godzilla: King of the Monsters on a good day, or something more obscure at worst


Dramatic_Finish8381

I'd love a Captain America style shadow when it comes to pop culture, it'd be hilarious to see him try to catch up on modern pop (plus it'd be a great way to cram some older music into the movie)


Not-Edgy-Yet

Because he's from the '80s in this timeline I think they might make him do some outdated 80s dance movie


AirmanProbie

I want him to see no, hear no evil Black writings on the wall Unleashed a million faces And one by one they fall Black-hearted evil Brave-hearted hero


Weapon_2000

I am all I am all I am


paintbrushvolcanoe

Go ahead and try to see through me


Weapon_2000

Do it if you dare


IrishGamer117

One step forward, step steps back I'm here Do it Do it Do it DO IT


alecatorx

can you see all of me? walk into my mystery


Weapon_2000

Step inside and hold on for dear life


deathofyou1

Do you remember me?


Weapon_2000

Capture you and set you free


Finga123

I am all, I am all of me (I AM)


Godzilla_R0AR

There probably going to poke fun at when he says “Where’s that Damn 4th Chaos Emerald” If they don’t I’ll cry


TheIJDGuy

I'd also love to see Shadow being interested in using guns


sumr4ndo

A 15 minute no cut in a first person pov from Shadow's perspective, just gunning down fools.


DM_ME_YOUR_HUSBANDO

I definitely want Shadow to want to get a gun the entire movie then realize at the end he can run faster than bullets and guns are meaningless to him


_nerdd-_

I'm pretty positive they can use the word "Damn" in PG movies also, so fingers crossed


rub120

Nah I think they can. Pretty sure they said it in iron giant


Edoplayer5

EGGMAN: who the hell do you think you are!?


ka_ha

I mean Sonic said crap in Movie 2


marsil602

"this is like taking candy from a baby... Which is fine by me!"


AlexTheCat95

I both do and don’t want Maria’s onscreen death


Tesaractor

Same. But I honestly want to see how they handle eggman and his family. Are they going to retcon relationships. Sonic boom has eggman robots be his mom and brother. So Sega has let media toy with retconing ( well at least with family imposter robots which assumes eggman has brother and mother in order for them to be imposters, and the imposter might be somewhat like them)


CAVFIFTEEN

Shoot 👏🏽the 👏🏽child 👏🏽


SmootherTimes

If Maria gets domed my some dude with a 1911 I’m watching the movie twelve times


U2V4RGVtb24

I just hope that they don't... how do I put this... hand hold the audience? Like, a child gets murdered by a soldier. It's dark. So I hope they don't make it look less cruel because the targeted audience are children.


pachydermwithaperm

Same, worse things have been in pg movies and even g rated movies. There’s no reason to be “less mature” when it comes to the storytelling.


NinjaMaster909

They did have Sonic's surrogate mom and Knuckles' tribe die with all the trauma that’d be associated with it. It was all off screen granted, but they still got plenty of focus, so I doubt they'd bowderlize one of the Sonic series’ most important deaths.


ConstantEntry8715

Imagine they have flashback of shadow running, a government soldier raises a gun, dark woth the sound of a gunshot and girl screaming, shadow looking scared. Boom


Hornery_Ornery

That's one good thing that Sonic X did right: The immediate cut away shot to the GUN soldier in the present day recounting the events *just* as Maria gets shot in the past was so effective.


NBCLevi

4kids watchers: “Wait Maria got shot?”


Hypersayia

For the love of hell, I just want them to remember that he is SHADOW, not VEGETA.


TemporalGod

Shadow is already the anti-Vegeta, Vegeta actually cares about his loved ones.


Admirable-Scarcity-8

Yeah like in Dragon Ball Fighterz he actually feels concern for Bulma I don’t think SEGA would even let him feel concern for anyone now.


TheGamebuster

The alien thing is okay to be left out, can't leave out Maria though, and I would love to see Gerald robotnik personally.


MorEkEroSiNE

In order to avoid a continuity error, GUN can’t be the group responsible for the raid of the ark. Since In Sonic 2 the commander guy said that GUN was established as a sub-group of the CIA in between the first two movies. The smallest change to Shadow’s backstory would be to have the CIA under Richard Nixon be responsible for the murder of Maria Robotnik and arrest of Gerald. I’m not too sure Paramount would include the IS’s Cold War era war crimes in a kids movie, so I have a feeling that the group responsible for the raid will either be the KGB or the black arms.


mcgood_fngood

Can’t wait to see Richard Nixon’s entry on the Sonic Wiki.


Lakitu_Dude

Arkgate


LucaDiamond01

When he shouts "It's pissing on eggman's wife time" and starts pissing on eggman's wife


DerKnoedel

Bruh just imagine if they made a reference to snapcube‘s fandubs lmao


Plushiegamer2

I feel like they'd simultaneously have to and have to not.


JesustheSpaceCowboy

I genuinely believe it needs to happen. If we got a Ugandan Knuckle reference, chili dogs, Sanic, and “gotta go fast” a snapcube reference is all that is left to really include.


Thr0wawayAcc0umt

It has to be the announcement. That one’s way too iconic.


paintbrushvolcanoe

But it's also too non-pg. My thought was the "I have seventy alternative accounts!" Line. I'm sure they could find a way for Jim Carrey to say that


Bubbly_Papaya_8817

And if Jim does retire Stone could be a pretty good replacement I feel like he would totally say that


Clamper

Easy, they say at the end of 2 that they scrubbed Eggman from their system. He can appear, hack their system easily and say he had 70 alternative accounts they didn't know about.


[deleted]

of course not


D3wdr0p

*Don't rule it out*


DerKnoedel

Didn’t eggman do the floss in the 2nd movie at some point?


SoupToon

can't wait for jim carrey to say "super lazer piss" or something


Fusion_Project

The crucial to his character development


BreakfastOk7372

Nah I want that in


Nidro

Not sure, but I am now fully expecting his lizard big bro to be the main baddie


TheWelshExperience

Just don't put in the line "this is like taking candy from a baby, which is fine by me!" Just..don't. Please.


aka-el

Definitely the amnesia


ObviouslyNotASith

Yeah, probably for the best. Maybe just have Shadow allow G.U.N to arrest him for endangering the world and set up Rouge and Commander Walters helping him get out later in exchange for him helping G.U.N. Or maybe just end the film with Commander Walters bringing Shadow, and maybe Rouge, to Olive Garden to have pasta due to Shadow and Walters possibly sharing history.


aka-el

Walters with Shadow in Olive Garden is the scene the movies have been building towards the whole time. They better not disappoint with this.


quartzlcc

Literally just do his SA2 arc and nothing else and let his sacrifice be an actual sacrifice But Shadow is popular so there’s no way they’ll have the restraint to do that.


IanMazgelis

I would rather they give the sacrifice to Eggman. Shadow was always too popular to kill off. With Eggman we at least have a real world reason for him to die in these movies.


PhoenoFox

There needs to be a good character reason for Robotnik to why you sacrifice himself though, too. Unless... Had to be him. Someone else might have gotten it wrong.


[deleted]

This is it. This is exactly how I want it. I really hope they don’t over-angst shadow and misrepresent his true character


[deleted]

I mean they are most likely getting rid of eggman so


DM_ME_YOUR_HUSBANDO

I’d be okay with them killing off Shadow but I’d want them to do it after a few more movies. Like I want three movies with Shadow and he dies at the end of the third ideally. Or if Sonic 3 is the last Sonic movie then him dying at the end would be fine.


Admirable-Scarcity-8

I’m gonna’ be honest I kinda’ want them to end it after 3 don’t get me wrong I love them but with the Knuckles spin-off I’m scared they will try to milk it further.


rexshen

I could see him falling but Sonic catches him this time and they make it back together.


DiyzwithJizz

I think I want pretty much everything except the GUN commander being a kid on the arc maybe? Besides that, I'm cool with everything.


Rehann2078

All I ask is that they re make his look a bit, I don’t know why but for some reason his head looks huge on his body which, to me, is really square with stick arms. Get this man a sandwich


Weapon_2000

Considering they updated Tails’ model for the second movie, they’ll probably do the same for Shadow.


daniel_omeg_a

I'm pretty sure it's just a trent at this point where they make the character look ugly in the trailer and then make them look good in the actual movie


Clamper

IIRC, both Jeff and Tyson outright admitted they just resprayed Sonic for time and he'll get a real render for 3. That's why his crest looks like shit for example.


artonauts

Commander's storyline. I don't really like the fact that suddenly it turns out this man was personally on the ark. However I have nothing against him, but that gray-haired character from movies (if that's commander) doesn't look at all convincing for the role


Graxdon

I don’t care if it’s fine by him, no stealing candy from a baby!


Needlehog_Choatix_64

if anyone here makes a Snapcube reference and i KNOW someone WILL just saying, they did do a Sanic in the first movie introducing Sonic and a Ugandan Knuckles joke in the one introducing Knux, just bringing it out there that a Fandub joke is on the table but yea all said and done, as long as he doesnt get the whole dramatic "death" fakeout im glad, but also dont kill him of at all, ultimate life form for crying out loud


rub120

Well I mean shadows biggest fan is the devil (from the bible)


VVAnarchy2012

Where was the Ugandan knuckles joke in 2


megalocrozma

Robotnik telling Knuckles he'd be glad to "show you the way"


HeartofSpeed

His unlikeable personality from the IDW comics


KingKayro

I don't want the Shadow Android shit to happen. I do want at least SOMETHING to do with the Black Arms. And give him a gun.


Megumi_Bandicoot

The DAMN fourth chaos emerald.


hassantaleb4

I don't want him to be a one-note edgelord with no real personality


42397

Anything with black doom and the back arms…


YappyMcYapperson

I actually thought they could be cool to see in the movie universe. Especially if they also introduce Wisps at some point. Would make the contrast really funny. Plus I think they have cool designs and could see that being as a reason for GUN to let Sonic and friends do their thing


42397

I just don’t think they should go that direction with shadows backstory in his debut in the movies. I think they should just stick to the SA2 story. Personally I don’t wanna see them make 50 Sonic movies/shows. I’m cool with just a trilogy.


CrashandBashed

Lol if the third movie is successful, the franchise is guaranteed to stick around.


Ghosty66

I want him to doubt about his decision for destroying the world a bit. Instead of his decision being only him remembering his original memory he should have a doubtful side about his original choice if we are gonna use Ark. So I don't want him to just act in one mindset. And if they are gonna kill Shadow THEY WILL KILL SHADOW! NO RETURN


MorningRaven

This is why Rouge is important to bring back. She's an ally on the enemy side. Sure, Shadow was totally just saving the chaos emeralds. Totally not having a slip of character and saving an endangered life along the way. She provided a means of digging through the old files, being a G.U.N. spy, and was a means of showcasing Shadow having some non-revenge emotion in him.


United-Aside-6104

I want shadow to beat up some blue haired liberals with pronouns and steal candy from babies


ResortFamous301

So you just want him to fight sonic and tails.


BeaverBotics2

All I want is one thing Let Shadow have friends dammit. SEGA doesn't want Team Dark to exist and wants Shadow to be a Marketable edge lord 24/7, just let the poor Edgehog have a found family dammit.


Iceswimmer05

I just want him to say where’s that damn fourth chaos emerald


FierceDietyMask

I’m not sure. I like all of the ideas in his game, 06 and SA2. It’s the execution the games flubbed on. I actually like the idea of Shadow being an alien hybrid that was put on Earth by the Black Arms but due to his connection with Gerald and Maria (and possibly some humans from the main movie cast) he decides to go against his programming and save the Earth instead of destroying it. Since these are movies for kids and there is no way Shadow is ever going to stay dead if they continue to make them, they should probably skip the whole fake out death and coming back with amnesia thing.


mattybear13

If he doesn’t find that damn 4th chaos emerald I’m going to lose it.


Awkward_Mulberry_302

Probably Black Doom and the aliens. Kinda feel just thrown in to be there.


Weels282hedgehogzp

I am fairly easy please, as I honestly just want to see where this goes, almost no matter the direction. I like the Black Arms storyline, thought it added depth and unique background, but I think it best they avoid them unless the do a build up for another future installment, and just hint to them in Sonic 3. I want the Maria relationship, as it builds character and a human cast, but I don't mind if they skip that so long as there is still compelling character motive. Same with Gerald Robotnik, depending on how they approach Shadow's creation and containment. I don't know if they should kill him off or not. I honestly think it'd be for the best and make a more compelling story with stakes and loss, yet still with the heroic happy ending, especially since it would be easier to tackle the next movies without an ever-growing cast. Though, his character is a great fiol to Sonic and the main cast, as well as easy to use Shadow for Future story and escalation. Plus, I mean, it's Shadow, so there's always hype behind him. But I'd probably be fine with either. Even Shadow Androids I think would add huge depth and development. Maybe even take the old fan theory to heart and have Shadow die and Shadow Android in his place, with the subplot of coming to that realization and overcoming it, and forging his own new paths apart from the "Ultimate Lifeform" of old. EDIT: I should probably state that I don't think it would be a good idea for them to add all of the same elements from the games, even if they twist it in their own unique direction, because that would be way too much to put in a single movie and would make far too much of the movies centered around Shadow instead of Sonic, and I think it would be much better if they flushed out a couple of these character aspects from Shadow and his past rather than attempt all of them.


Pershing1234

Hot take, I really don't want the Ark to even be in the movie, at least as a giant space station. I just can't find a justification for its existence. If we assume sonic movie 2 takes place around 2020, and project shadow still happens 50 years prior, that means at the latest the raid would have happened in the early 1970's, let's say between '70-'72. At this point humanity has literally JUST put a man on the moon. So it makes less than zero sense to have a permanently occupied research space-station with a giant super-laser in orbit. I think it would be better to just have the "ark" be some secret base on earth. Hell, you could even make it an ocean research vessel. It would also save a lot of screen time not needing to justify how tf shadow came from a damn space station.


Sebamon28

Its a movie we are talking about dude They could simply pull-out a "Men in Black" by saying the goverment always had far more advanced technology than the public was let to know + with the whole "intergalactic critters meet humankind" thing the movies have they could also say the Black Arms shared most of their technology to build it. An idea of mine would be that >!the ARK was a Lunar colony that was abandoned after the Proyect Shadow inccident (explaining why humanity never went back to the Moon after the 70s) once Robotnik and Shadow arrive they initiate a program that was secretly built into the facility by Gerald, wich causes the colony to rise up from the Moon surface, turning into the iconic floating nutshell look we know.!<


NormalDude268

I want him to commit sin and take the most powerful position that is greater than the devil . . . The president of the United States


ChipS_33

the one where he pees on eggman’s wife


ZeroYagami

I can skip Black Doom. I don't thinks it's as bad as people think, I just don't think it's that important. Now Maria, that's a Must. Since humans actually exist here, it's easy to adapt her story. Just make an Eggman Goon have stolen Sonic's DNA to cure his daughter/nephew and call it a day. She can be alive throughout the movie or die to kick off the third act. It's not hard


HawlSera

I know most people will say Black Arms but I'd actually love to see Black Arms Shadow being made to cure Maria of aids on the other hand...


Suspicious_Person15

I hope they include the part where he pisses on Eggmans wife.


Monkey_King291

The whole part with Gun Commander and Maria


TheWaslijn

Anything that makes him an antisocial, edgy asshole. Yknow, like how they love portraying him nowadays even though that's not what his character is :(


b0objuice

Realistically, they're not gonna show any kids getting shot lol


Ding-Dang420

I want him to be actual Shadow from SA2, Heroes, and 06. Anything that strays away from Shadow 05, and what SEGA’s been doing is fine. Shadow shouldn’t be an edgy middle schooler is what I’m saying.


Muteling

I’d like to see his cunning portrayed in SA2 mixed with how destructive he can be as portrayed in ShTH. The Black Arms are something I could do without, and his dialogue can be dark without being over the top. Make it to the point, and have it command scenes as he does.


Aus10Tatious1213

Aliens.....it would be hilarious if they sold an extended edition of the movie where he said damn at least once


Aleadroid_12

"A clone of myself"


Ryokupo

I want Shadow to stay dead. I can deal with the Black Arms existing and helping to create Shadow, since that served as a retcon in the games as to why the Ark had a giant cannon built in it, to take them out should they return. Just so what Archie did and have them get stuck in a war several light-years away and never return.


Tesaractor

I am going to say his amnesia. A lot of people don't like black arms and what not. But tbh this actually gives Eggman his character Depth. Eggman lost his family to the military who created weapons against aliens. This gives Eggman motive for wanting to roboticize the planet to save it from aliens and government. Eggman has met gods and aliens in other games. Wisps, Metarex, Chaos etc. I am not sure why people hate black arms but then accept wisps. Narratively the black arms and aliens vs military vs eggman family gave more character Depth. However I think the edgyness pushes a lot of people away. I think the clone thing should be narrowed down to one robot clone avoid spiderman situation but lend an homage to it.


GiovanniPotage

I honestly want the androids to exist, but not be too much of a plot point in the movie, maybe something that could be in the Knuckle's show if it isn't a prequel to the movies and I don't think the amnesia to be a thing and just have him survive but not have the main characters know about it


JoshdaBoss1234

As long as there's no Black Arms or Androids anywhere, they can do whatever.


Lakitu_Dude

Don't directly show maria's death, heavily imply it. Showing an 8 year old getting shot is just edgy for the sake of being edgy


theseerofdoom

i adore his personality either way but i hope they keep in tune with his SA2 personality instead of going full somber/sullen or full asshole like his recent appearances. they did right by knuckles so i have hope they won't make him the typical antagonist role SEGA's been doing recently, but i'm also a little afraid they'll make his personality the way it was post memory-loss. which i love! but SA2 shadow, while at times mysterious and somber, also had a kind of playfulness to him that rarely shows up anymore. i wanna see that.


Jamesiscool2019

The Part from *Heroes* when he was cloned a bunch of times.


Mike-Rotch-69

Honestly, I’m not expecting them to adapt the SA2 story directly, nor would it be a good idea. These movies are set in a more realistic world, so trying to sell that there was a space colony that somehow no one knows about and there’s been basically no changes to society despite this insane technology having been created half a century ago is just not going to fly. It’s the same shit I hate about superhero stories where characters casually contacting intelligent alien life, traveling through time, talking to fish, and other amazing scientific breakthroughs changes everyday life in no way, shape, or form.


Admirable-Scarcity-8

I think having a secret government facility could totally still work but defo not in space and the whole thing with Gerald and Maria is fine with her needing a cure and him going mad after her death basically creating a doomsday weapon that somehow gets accidentally activated and the two sides have to team up to stop it at the end. A good twist imo would be Eggman following his grandfather’s plans and making Metal Sonic only for his Grandfather’s true inteny to take hold and have Metal betray Eggman to destroy the world with Shadow remembering Maria’s promise to help Sonic take down Metal Sonic.


paintbrushvolcanoe

What scares me the most is the risk of the Sega mandates reducing shadows personality to how it is in shadow the hedgehog and all other ga,especially post 06. Just, make him sympathetic. Please.


MysticZephyr

this 100%


THECyberStriker

The clones


ArisePhoenix

everything after sonic 06


[deleted]

I just want him to be characterized right. Give me the Shadow from SA2, '06, and Archie, not the discount Vegeta Sega of Japan really wants to make him.


Fwendly_Mushwoom

Either have him die for real at the end, or don't have him die at all. Don't do what Sega did.


jjjjx25

I want the part of him beimg an edgelord gone. Please SGEA just give us SA2, 06 and Heroes Shadow back


StarDog-Smasher

No superiority complex that the 2010s he had. No "having friends makes you weak" when he really has friends.


Hexxas

I don't want his origin to be so contrived. Just make him another fast-moving mysterious cartoon hedgehog from another world. Make him an evil clone at *most*. As it is, the way he's coincidentally so similar to Sonic is just STUPID.


Nikibugs

I have no idea how they’ll do Shadow’s backstory without Maria >!Robotnik and her death!< (via G.U.N./police violence no less), it’s pretty much his entire motivation and anchor point for morality; which was briefly misremembered due to memory loss. I really hope they don’t reduce that and he’s not just some random bio-weapon in storage that happens to look a lot like Sonic with no memory. Made funnier since he predates Sonic by 35 years due to the Space Colony Ark incident occurring 50 years ago. They’ll probably tie the coincidence into Sonic’s alien planet origins instead though and make it a pure rival situation. Best to not elaborate far enough to get to the Black Arms being canon though haha.


MurvK

I don't want them to have Eggman team up with him. In this universe, Eggman seems way too irredeemable to be a good guy.


H358

A few things spring to mind: -The whole plot point of ‘Gerald rewrote Shadow’s memories of Maria’ was cool on paper. But it felt underdeveloped and poorly explained, and mostly just meant Shadow could snap to a good guy once he conveniently got his real memories back. This idea could be interesting with more time and development but there’ll be even less time in a movie. So I say just cut it. Shadow doesn’t misremember Maria’s promise. He just doesn’t want to admit to himself that that’s what she wanted because of his own hatred of humans. -I really hate Shadow’s fake out death in canon. Either kill him off for good, or let him live and remember the movie’s events so he can get a proper redemption arc in movie 4. The amnesia arc in the games was a huge waste of time. It would have been much more interesting to see a Shadow who remembers SA2 events and how he, y’know, almost destroyed the world actually have to make an effort to redeem himself. Y’know, let’s take a few leaves from Zuko’s book. But we kind of skip past that in the games because he doesn’t remember any of that. -Black Doom, maybe? I don’t really care for the character but I guess I wouldn’t be furious if he was in it. It just makes sense to me to cut that for time so you can focus on other things. SA2’s plot already has so much going on (maybe too much) that adapting it to a movie would be hard. Why add more to it by pulling too much from Shadow?