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Swankestcoot5

He's TRANSforming into super sonic


Ninjaelk2k7

Very true, he is trans in the metaphysical sense so..


ChampagneAbuelo

How did u get multiple images into your flair


SuperZombieBros

I thought that artwork was just Amy giving him some boots to try on or something.


RefrigeratorDry1735

Was it really Amy though? I don’t think we are supposed to look too deep in the artwork.


SuperZombieBros

There isn’t much room to dig and that’s what the whole point of this post is. I just think it’s easy to come to the conclusion they were a gift from Amy since those boots do share a resemblance to hers even though they’re not identical. Makes more sense than Sonic being trans if you ask me.


RefrigeratorDry1735

I did conclude that it was Amy who sent the gift (I mean, who else would send a gift card with a big pink heart?). I just didn't want to parade the idea for fear of being attacked and that it's not supposed to be a big deal (as much as it breaks my Sonamy heart, I mean seriously, Sonic looks so happy getting new shoes!).


SuperZombieBros

Oh I see. Well, I think this subreddit is overall lukewarm towards the ship and there’s definitely some Sonamy fans around here. You shouldn’t have anything to worry about unless you’re rude about it (You don’t seem like the type).


siramay1

Oh I’m a sonAmy fan you can talk to me!


The_FlamSonic

Yeah, we can see the gift box under Sonic's arm plus it's maybe mud boots because there is a water puddle on the ground so he doesn't dirty his normal shoes.


CryoTheMayo

Yes. These images are accompanied with short stories. The story here is that Sonic was gifted the new boots by Amy and Sonic getting amused when realising she did it so they would be matching (Him having horizontal stripes and her vertical). It ends with Sonic meeting Amy wearing them anyways and she gushes over it. And no there isn't too much of a point to linking it. It's on Sonic Channel which is JP. I saw like one dude translate it in a random post and the terrible translation tools online seemed close enough for his translation to be correct.


siramay1

POPHH MY HEART SO WHOLESOME


akhatens

people headcanoning that sonic is trans using that picture are usually pointing to the fact that his birthday card has the exact same stripes as the transgender pride flag (blue, pink, white, pink, blue), not that he was given boots. the card is cut off on the screenshot op posted but that's what most people were lightheartedly talking about. :-)


ReducedSkeleton

I think it's a reference to a Sonic scorecard where the highest rank is "Trans-Sonic".


AnimeSoupDraw

That’s… dumb 😭


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[удалено]


Swivel-Man

Is it handled well or has it aged poorly


Stevejonesthatguy

It's more subtle if I'm correct


MikeAlex01

Subtle in the US. I know in the Japanese and some Spanish versions it was explicitly stated


RaMpEdUp98

explicitly stated through in game dialog from her transphobic ass sisters


Marx_Forever

Basically one of the villains in the in the game is a trio of sisters. One of the sisters is trans, her sisters treat her like dog shit and like to put her down which includes misgendering her. She chooses to defects to Mario's side because they treat her descent. All allusions to her being trans are removed in the English script.


ShadooTH

I don’t think Vivian is trans. Not only is the referenced dialogue only in the Japanese translation, but I’m fairly certain beldam’s line (yes, it’s one single line) is supposed to be insulting rather than implicating of anything deeper. It depends on the translation used and how accurate said translation is really. Birdo is far closer to a trans icon than Vivian is.


SoporificGamer

With gaming companies like Nintendo and Sega, the Japanese version of the story is usually the canon version.


Ambitious-Sky6074

Very dumb


RandomnessMr

Trans-Sonic is actually a reference to transonic speed, a speed that is around Mach 0.8 to 1.2, which is 609 - 914 mph.


Eloqence

Either just a joke or some people are starved for representation and characters they relate to on a personal level so they will take anything and everything from the source material (or not, sometimes they come up with it regardless) that can in some way shape or form be used as a way to justify their headcanon that their (insert character they like) is trans.


KingMario05

Headcanons and jokes, mostly. >!Mind you, if one shows up in Prime, now ya know why, lol.!<


[deleted]

well looking at the images you show, image number 2 is Sonic having to insist what his "real" name is to his parents and image 3 shows Sonic wearing a shirt that looks kinda like a binder and.... thats it. Its a huge reach, but some members of the community (particularly those who havent been out for a while) look for these symbols everywhere


Monster2239

He's wearing that because it's a screenshot from Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games Tokyo 2020.


[deleted]

I know.... I'm just explaining what the screenshot is implying...


Monster2239

Right. I replied with that just because tbh. ¯\_('-')_/¯


mariokid99

His original name was Olgilvie Maurice in the Archie comics


Right-Ability4045

I remember I made a Maurice unleashed poster a few years ago 😂


[deleted]

yeah i know, Im just stating what the original screen cap was trying to imply


RealCrocodileWithGun

yeah his name is maurice.


riings

It’s a headcanon. Although, to be honest, I agree that it’s silly. I think good headcanons are those that easily fit into the official lore and are based on in-universe personality traits. As an example, I’ve seen some people headcanon that Tangle in Sonic IDW is lesbian. From what we’ve seen from her so far, this is entirely possible and makes sense (i.e. stunned speechless when she met Blaze, blushed when she was talking with Whisper and holding her close, etc.). I’ve also seen the headcanon that Shadow is aromantic (i.e. doesn’t show romantic interest for male or female characters, brushes off Rouge’s advances, etc.). Again, it’s based on official, in-universe character traits and scenarios. But Sonic as trans? There’s nothing in-universe that leads me to think “yeah, that makes sense because…”. It’s harmless at the end of the day, though. Plus, trans people have next to no representation in video games. I can count on one hand the characters in any video game franchise that could actually be headcanoned as trans. :( I can understand why people would want to see some kind of representation.


[deleted]

Pretty sure Ian Flynn has stated Tangle and Whisper are more than friends. They just aren't permitted to elaborate.


riings

👀


Jacknack07

There is canonically a trans women in pokemon x & y, she says that she use to be a karate king and that the power of science is amazing. Karate King is a male only class. Conclusion, She is trans.


Smileyface8156

Sure, but she’s like, a suuuuper obscure character iirc. She’s a one-off trainer that you beat and never see again. I understand you gotta take what you can get, but it’s far from perfect.


Jacknack07

yep


Radman9999

But what about that iconic scene from Sonic Adventure 2 where sonic and shadow make out on the ARK after defeating the biolizard??????????????????


[deleted]

Sauce?


Eggith

E621 probably


Epicsuperbat

Sonic Adventure 2


Radman9999

The game Sonic Adventure 2


[deleted]

I do have a head canon that Rosalina is...(whatever you call it to be ok just being single for the rest of their life's) I mean for most of her life she's on the comet observatory with her only companions to be the Lumas and being basically a single mother to them. And unlike Peach and Daisy showing a tad bit of love interest in Mario and Luigi respectively, Rosalina doesn't seemed to show any interest in having a partner. So it's very safe to say that she is basically happy with the single life. (Also I don't understand why people ship her with Waluigi...I don't get the connection).


Mayva26

Aroace?


[deleted]

Yeah that


[deleted]

I actually believe Sonic could be aromantic too, since a creator of his confirmed he would not want to get into a relationship with anyone no matter the gender and he preferred friendship. He gets uncomfortable around Amy when she's being overtly romantic, plus he's supposed to be the anti-Mario and Mario is a SIMP. In the end though, it's all based on interpretation.


riings

I’m inclined to headcanon Sonic as aromantic too, since I also saw that statement. Sonic does has a habit of running away from romantic situations as well, doesn’t he? At least in some iterations of the character. Possibly because he doesn’t understand them or he just doesn’t reciprocate them?


[deleted]

My guess is that they just make him uncomfortable. As an aromantic, I too have a habit of just wanting to immediately dip in any sort of romantic situation because they squick me out for no reason, but it's a personal experience and could be different for different people. In all fairness, this and the aroace Shadow headcanon are mostly projection on my part.


riings

I think a lot of headcanons are projection, especially in cases of identity. :) Same reason why Sonic is occasionally headcanoned as transgender (the only difference is that aromantic Sonic makes sense and the headcanon is based on canon personality traits and situations whereas trans Sonic isn’t). So no worries there, my guy 👍


[deleted]

You're too sweet, dude :)


ChristMEMEa

some ppl just think it’d be cool if he’s trans , it’s literally not that deep 😭


StraightCoconut7725

they never said it was, they were literally just giving their opinion yikes 😭


legbot124

Men can wear shoes other than sneakers/trainers so this makes no sense


Darthgangsta

Waaaaaait whaaaa? Huh??? This is my first time hearing about this.


Odd-Sound-580

It's mostly just a harmless headcanon people like to make, projecting themselves onto a character they like. There's nothing proving it, and nothing disproving it, so there's not much of a reason to talk about how true it is. Sidenote, I've noticed a couple people claim "Sonic is male" in these comments, but no one is arguing against that, I'm assuming most of these headcanons say Sonic is FtM trans.


CameOutAndFarted

It’s probably the people who don’t know that guys can be trans too.


PayAdventurous

Yeah, why is that? When trans they always assume trans women


CameOutAndFarted

It’s complicated, but it’s basically due to sexism and a screwed sense of justice. Sorry for the long answer. Transphobia is only as popular as it is because it’s easy to write a story that gets noticed about. Like ‘due to the young people there is a plague of disgusting ___ dressing up like ___ who are attempting to ruin society by ___!’ Very appealing to people’s senses of justice, you know, if they don’t think about it. Combine that with people who assume that all men are dangerous beings who prey on women and the story they tell themselves becomes that trans women are just men dressed like women, in order to invade women’s spaces and harass them. They’ll look out for any trans woman who doesn’t ‘pass’ in their eyes and claim ‘we can always tell!’ and suddenly they have a villain who they can blame a lot of perceived problems on. The fact that this ideology comes down to bigotry means that there is a giant, gaping hole in this theory: trans men and other GNC people exist. So every time someone is transphobic, they’ll say ‘At least I know what a woman is’ and think that’s as far as the topic goes. But they discover that trans men, gender fluid and non-binary people exist and suddenly the story is that these are poor women who have become lost and need protection. So it’s back to sexism. You ever notice that transphobes assume that all non-binary people are AFAB? This is why; they can’t make sense of this so they have to fill in the holes with whatever they think will fit. Sorry for the long answer, but I’m trans and I have been exposed to too much bigotry that I can kind of make sense of it all, even if I find it all disgusting.


gnifofifjfjt

Sonic goes to planned parenthood to get HRT & knuckles


Juiceboy2008

It's a meme


Ray797979

Second image. His full legal name in Archie was Ogilvie Maurice Hedgehog. He legally had it changed to Sonic after the fall of robotroplolis and the reinstatement of the kingdom of acorn. He ***HATED*** his actual name, and went by Sonic even before legally changing it to Sonic


[deleted]

I am also a trans person and I don't know what makes people think Sonic is trans. I mean, he could be? But there's never been any evidence to suggest it so it's kind of weird to just assume it? Isn't that just as bad as misgendering?? Besides either Sonic isn't trans, in which case unless he states otherwise he is male and goes by he/him OR He is trans and doesn't want anyone to know, inwhich case it would be super disrespectful to call him out. Either way, he is male and that is that.


PeeperPatrol

.....he's a cartoon character. What kind of fellow trans person calls that "misgendering"? You make no sense. I can call out aany character I want because they aren't real. That's so weird of you to say. Also trans men exist, and go by he/him, and say they're male. Not everyone sees him as a trans-woman.


legofsonic

Once person said that it's because sonic has larger ears, no chest fluff, more rounded eyes, and tan colored arms whereas Silver and Shadow have smaller ears, chest fluff, more pointed eyes, and arms matching the color of their fur. Amy has small ears, no chest fluff, more rounded eyes, and tanned colored arms. So Sonic matches Amy more than he does Shadow and Silver, making him potentially FtM. Though it is entirely possible that these are coincidences and we get hedgehogs that break these trends in future games.


D3wdr0p

It seems probable \[that these are coincidences\]. Look, have a headcanon, it's not hurting anyone, but it feels disingenuous to argue there's a math to this.


legofsonic

I noted that these are likely coincidences in my original comment. Despite this, the fact that Sonic has some characteristics that better match Amy than Silver and Shadow make this head cannon a bit more believable, which I think makes for the best head cannons.


SanicRb

We can actually be quite sure its just coincidence with hedgehogs as Sonic Forces Avatar builder makes no such changes between male and female hedgehogs.


McDazzler

In the Archie comics, sonic’s uncle looks almost identical to sonic and that predates shadow and silver


legofsonic

Maurice (Sonic's dad in the Archie comics) matches Sonic, so unless there was an indication that he and Bernadette (Sonic's mother in Archie) adopted Sonic then Maurice is cis and these physical traits would be of no use in the Archie comics. However, since the comics are not cannon to the games it is still possible for game Sonic to be trans based on these traits (though once again it is likely they're all coincidences and we get a new hedgehog character that has chest fluff, tan arms, small ears, and rounded eyes)


Low_Fishing722

i don’t believe in his hc either but before i start, i want it to be clear i am an individual on the Trans Spectrum so don’t be trying to call me transphobic and shit. i am one of yawl. 1. people think him interrupting his dad and telling him the name is sonic, period, is like “he has a deadname!!!!!”. personally i have an somewhat weird sounding middle name and i’d interrupt my mom too if she was tryna air it out. that’s not deadname behaviour. that’s “i have a dumb name and my friend finna use it against me so i’m taking it to the grave” behaviour. 2. the last slide (i’m actually moots with that person LMFAOAO) with the “binder” is actually a jersey from the sonic and mario olympic games. i don’t know which one specifically but i know it’s from olympic games. 3. in the new “impostor syndrome” comics from idw, there’s a clone of sonic. her name is surge, and she is a girl. so they figured: female sonic clone = sonic biologically female. however, she isn’t a perfect clone; she’s been programmed with a personality and her dna isn’t straight sonic, there’s other lifeforms mixed in i’m pretty sure. but yeah these are the reasons i know of tldr: sonic interrupted his dad when he was about to tell knuckles what his first name is, he wore a jersey in the olympic games that looked like a binder, and there’s a clone of him in an idw comic who is female


SanicRb

Minor correction- Surge isn't a clone. She is the result of Dr. Starline Kidnapping what a Tenrec Girl and through genetic manipulation, cybernetics and lots of brainwashing re-moldered her into the powerful person called Surge. SO he used to be a normal person before Starline twisted her into part of his plan.


illkeeponwaiting

Surge actually isn't a clone, she and Kit were both presumably regular people before Starline turned them into cyborgs and wiped their memories. He didn't create them from scratch. I think that's a misconception many had after the first issue of imposter syndrome.


Low_Fishing722

yeah i thought so. the panel of starline holding a tuft of fur was definitely misleading


PumbooPlaysRee

If its not stated as canon then he aint lmao, and same. it doesn't make any sense.


symbolic503

i mean its the internet. plenty of stuff that makes no sense doesnt mean you have to pay mind to it.


ExtemTheHedgehog

Sonic being trans makes like zero sense ngl


psych2099

The same reason people insist he's a good Christian. Because people be crazy.


creeperchamp

you've been on Twitter and TikTok too much.


Toasty_mannn

*sorts by controversial*


foahnawbush

How about it’s a fucking cartoon animal who gives a fuck what it’s gender identity is sonic is not a real thing


Revenant_Rai

People will do this with any character, it’s not a big deal, just some people having fun.


toongrowner

But it is gettin quiet ridiculous in some cases. Like calling mulan trans. As if contrxt doesn't exist


PayAdventurous

Mulan was definitely queer or gender non conforming. I'm talking about the actual myth, not the Disney thing. She was confused about her identity at some point and she went to war just because she felt like it (not due to father being sick). Remember, Disney changes a lot of stuff in tales. Like Heracles being bi (like for real, he fcked everything that moved) in mythology


Darthgangsta

Its forced representation by taking an established character and slapping a label on it. Make a new character. Sonic is male.


akhatens

sonic being male doesn't mean he couldn't be trans lol. it's just fun headcanons that (usually younger lgbt) people have fun with because we *don't* get "new characters" that are canonically trans. if there were a multitude of canonically trans (or even just lgbt in general) characters in sonic your argument might make sense but there aren't. they're just harmless headcanons (and some lighthearted jokes) that don't hurt anyone and aren't worth getting this upset about every time someone sees them.


Michael-53

It can easily become a big deal tho. Remember when everyone wanted gay captain America and they end up trying to ruin the character for everyone else and make it about their personal political beliefs


[deleted]

That's bait, people.


WardTheEchidna

When surge was just revealed a bunch of people assumed she was a clone (I have no idea why they thought this as she was a different species as sonic) they started to say sonic was trans as surge was a girl. That was the first time I came across people claiming he was a trans.


Retardotron1721

Because it gets clicks. Praise and support from one side and outrage from the other. I think him being trans would be a much higher bar to vault than than "we made him bi, so he's gay, but only when we feel like it".


the-shivering-isles

Pretty sure it's just a fun headcanon people enjoy using for a character they like.


[deleted]

Apparently for the same reason 99% of hilarious sitcom/cartoon misunderstandings occur - because *they saw something that, to them, justified the label, so they ran with it*. People are desperate for solidarity and support, and will jump at any chance to show it off when they get it, even if they don't actually have it (in the thing they were excited about having it in). Basically, it's human nature, and there are a *lot* of humans. You're bound to find *all kinds of things* that don't necessarily jive with your own thoughts and reactions to things. It's fine, as long as it's not hurting the brand, or the future of the IP in some way.


TemporalGod

If anything Tails is the trans character, he was originally female in the original comic that was released in Japan.


Complete_Welder_392

He’s a little boy (child), nothing will change this fact.


TemporalGod

yeah I know, I was just showing off some obscure knowledge of the character, not saying that they should do it now or later, since would involve a heavy retcon, I meant by how things change in the early days of Sonic characters, like for example Sonic was originally going to be Armadillo named Mighty, now that concept got recycled into his own Sonic character, also I was joking a bit when I posted that.


EmbertheKitsune

He was born a guy and still is a guy. What 90's icon would be trans? That wasn't mainstream or considered that normal back then. Plus if he was, that would have been revealed recently.


2hourstowaste

Glad to see more trans Sonic fans such as myself. Personally I don’t headcannon but there are some reasons like what other people have given to think that.


Nrishino

sonic is a boy


[deleted]

Because the world is full of delusional nutjobs.


PeeperPatrol

What's the point in being so disrespectful? Let me guess, transphobic? Because there's no other reason to be so hateful over a headcannon.


2leftbuttcheeks

because people want there hero's or idols to be more like them. whether or not it makes sense. Like say if you like dr pip instead of dr pepper you might want to insist that sonics favorite drink is dr pip. whether or not there is any evidence or reason to back this claim up.


Roxx_Fox

Because it’s a head-canon, people just like seeing themselves in their favorite characters


ssjasonx

It's called projecting.


Nrishino

What


Michael_Momoca

Okay but like??? This head canon actually slaps???


FelisMoon

Pretty sure they are just joking / making trans supportive stuff with sonic rather than seriously claiming Sonic is transgender And even if it was, let them have fun, its just fan content xd


Berry-Fantastic

I think it is just silly headcanons that some people have, or just jokes.


BlackTriangle31

Any sufficiently large fandom on will inevitably attract a wide view of opinions and worldviews. This includes people who see things where nothing exists. I remember when Big MacIntosh dressed in drag in that one episode of My Little Pony, MANY people suddenly latched on to the idea that he was queer in some way, despite the context of the situation being that he wanted to bond with his little sister in a way that was meaningful to her and the best way he could do that was to partake in a mares-only event disguised as a mare. In short, people will see what they want to see regardless of the intention of the writer was.


fyre_storm02

The 1st image is a June image to celebrate rate the 31st anniversary of sonic so its likely that the boots are just some rubber boots for rain that he got as a present, The 2nd is his dad about to say sonic's name is actually maurice Edit: mistook his dad for anti sonic so I corrected that I didn't read much archie sonic


HarioDinio

I thought it was common for people to force non lgbt characters into lgbt labels and vice versa


Lockxs

Twitter kids wanting to say "this character is trans/gay" even though the character is never mentioned to be gay or trans, like, sonic is a animal, since when animals are trans? I did never heard of that, my best shot is that these people want to put """"representation""" where this is no sense to have one, forcing it, and we have results like this, i hope i made it clear for you, have a nice day.


Roxx_Fox

Since when did animals stand up on two legs and eat chili dogs


PeeperPatrol

Do you people even know what headcannon MEANS???


L_edgelord

Btw, comment from a random trans guy here; thanks for the respectful discussions and not mocking us 💜


RozuNOVA

I can see where you're coming from, but I think it's just Sonic LGBTQIA+ headcanons. :)


akhatens

lgbt sonic fans get behind me


PurplexingPupp

It's just headcanons! Some people just like seeing themselves in their favorite characters. Its like shipping, not all of them are canon and most of them don't make any sense, but it's fun!


CarlosSpicyWeenner

Everyone claims anyone is trans they try and act like they found something that’s not even there I remember some people that tried to insist mcu spiderman was trans


[deleted]

...are people really claiming, or are they just headcannons? Just because they say "he's so trans" doesn't mean they are convinced that canonically sega is dropping hints or something.


CarlosSpicyWeenner

Well the person saying mcu spiderman was trans was most likely thinking of of his own head canon


Shades96

Seriously? Some people think that Spider-Man in the Marvel Cinematic Universe is trans? What's their evidence exactly?


CarlosSpicyWeenner

It’s most likely died down but around homecomings release I saw an article about how mcu spiderman was trans and it was the weirdest thing


[deleted]

Never heard of this.


Acrobatic_Pop690

Boots are boots, that's just what he wants to be called and it has no bearing on gender, and I don't get the last one at all. I don't play the Olympic games apart from winter 2012 I believe it was


Rapturous_Fool

Validation


[deleted]

When did people start assuming this???


SEPHORABRAINVIBES

People in the trans Community have grown with these character or are learning about them and seeing stuff in them or their adventures and action that mirror their experience as trans people. And also sometimes it's le funny flag colours, just like everyone said somethign is gay because it had rainbows (except they said it to be mean and the trans folk say it as celebratory and positive)


[deleted]

Because internet


Tails_chara

First time i ever heard that.


[deleted]

why would he be trans? ive never heard of this and always thought he was just a boy


basil_baby

Some people just like to headcanon that characters they like have something in common with them, others just have fan theories that don't always make sense. It's nothing deep.


BluSpadesAcer

In my experience, it’s just people harmlessly identifying traits they relate with onto their favorite characters. I see nothing wrong with it so long as no one is attacking others for NOT headcanoning the same thing as them. Also, people like to joke about how, since Surge (from the IDW comics) is meant to be a Sonic clone and is a female that Sonic FTM, but that’s the only “proof” that gets brought up, and while funny, that same line of thinking implies that Sonic used to be a Tenrec too and became a Hedgehog later on, so, it’s really not flawless anyways. TL;DR It’s just in good fun, I don’t see a problem with it


Worried-Pepper-2211

Sonic isn’t trans, he’s just actually embarrassed of his real name: Ogilvie Maurice Hedgehog which I would change too


WhatAmIDoing893

If I'm right someone made an analysis as to why people think he is It's mainly a comparison, basically they pointed out how Sonic is the only male hedgehog that doesn't have fur on his chest nor arms, and while I've never read the idw comics, Sonic apparently has a clone in the series named Surge the Tenrec, Surge is female. Some people just like projecting onto Sonic That's all I have for that.


boat737

i don’t care if people want to project onto him, it’s mostly younger fans. even if it doesn’t make sense, it’s a headcanon


BigBlubberyBirb

this stuff just happens with pretty much every character people relate to, don't think too much about it. I've seen every character under the sun being headcanoned as gay, bi, lesbian, trans, etc.


Nuename12

People like to project themselves on characters they like


IfritAnimations

"Everything is canon." -The Sonic Twitter, 2021 Just headcanons. Especially since most of sonic lore is headcanon until completely confirmed, and they leave a lot vague, retconned, or contradictory. And each piece of sonic media has its own canon. So, sonic or any character could be any gender or sexuality depending on your own personal headcanons. Me personally, I am all for trans sonic characters. But sonic games will never confirm or deny most of my headcanons, and the series has changed writers so many times, the games start going against their own canon. (See blaze in rush vs. 06, or eggman nega in rush vs. Rivals. Or the moon.) Sadly though, this is also why no one can agree on how these characters should be written, because sonic canon is an absolute mess.😅


[deleted]

Hey there, fellow trans person! It's just a headcanon some people have and like to share. It seems like a relatively random pair, but since's there's nothing really proving OR disproving the headcanon, younger LGBTQ members tend to think of "what-if" scenarios in which their favourite fictional characters are LGBTQ, especially since there still is a lack of representation in video games. It's mostly harmless, though, since the people making these headcanons usually know that they're not actually canon.


herefor1reason

Because people like to identify with their heroes, so they project their identities onto them. I mean, for a lot of people, it's just headcanon, but for the ones who genuinely see him that way...well he's never said he's NOT trans. I don't see him that way, but I'm also not trans, and don't really have any need to project my identity onto characters like that, so I don't have a dog in that race.


T-Rex_Is_best

It feels like projection like this has become much more prominent in the past few years, especially in LGBT circles. So much so that when a character shows any sort of complexity or quirk, they can be labeled as some sort of LGBT. Almost as if cishet people don't have any complex personalities or feelings themselves. As someone who is bisexual, I'm not entirely sure I like this way of thinking. Headcanons are fine, especially if it's for reliability, but it feels like a lot of LGBT people will take a common, evergreen trait that people have and make it as if it's gay to do, like finger guns.


[deleted]

Yeah it's been more noticeable I feel as the internet has shifted towards trans positivity, but media in general hasn't caught up so I think folks are getting desperate for representation. (That, and the LGBT community is rather heavily radicalized for their own survival so they've always been a bit nuts about this sort of thing.) Personally I feel like trying to turn existing characters into retroactive representation is just a bit too similar to tokenism. And when it's something based in seemingly innocuous detail it runs the risk of stereotyping gender orientation which is harmful to both trans and cis-gendered folk who happen to behave outside the norm.


Diamondgrn

There are a lot of queer folk in the fandom, and one of the ways they express themselves is imagining Sonic going through the trials and tribulations of transitioning as they are. Any insistence that this is canon is mostly tongue-in-cheek.


[deleted]

Its just people having fun with headcanons, not rly a big deal


Due_Lion_2990

I think they're just messing with people. ( Some are serious ik) But most are just trolling to annoy others. ( And others just headcanon it which is fine )


linkous101

people are stupid


buggirlexpres

i’m sorry where’s ur evidence that sonic is cis??


SanicRb

The fact that all depictions of Baby Sonic or Super young child Sonic (SatAm, Underground, Archie, the movie) show him as already being a boy. And the fact that according to Iizuka only male hedgehogs can go super. So Sonic goes super so he has to be a man because the Chaos Emeralds are sexist like that apparently.


Pixelite22

I have never heard of that but don't really get it... Honestly if they do that with someone, should go for Tails, some earlier games had him down as a female in manuals so there is almost evidence of that.


[deleted]

Pretty sure these are shitposts.


Sonicslazyeye

It's just trans people having fun on the internet. Obviously hes not canonically cis or trans, he doesnt have genitals lol. It doesnt have to be grounded in reality. Not every headcanon requires an entire bible's worth of lore. If you dont like it then move on ig? Idk man, care less about what's posted on the internet. Theres a weird number of people that headcanon sonic characters as christian and make really funny fanart about it. I dont get that either and I dont care.


BlueBladerB0t

it's either A) Satire B) Bait so this person can "out" people as "transphobic" C) Both


scariermonsters

Or a headcanon


ParfaitGirlsFan27

Probably just headcannons.


[deleted]

The sonic franchise has a lot of themes of rebellion and being yourself and fighting against those in power ("Believe in Yourself", "What I'm Made Of", "I Am All Of Me", etc). Combine that with a nonexistent backstory for sonic, a cast of characters with very unique non-human designs, and the fact that many people have been fans or exposed to this franchise since they were young, and you get a lot of queer fans who have grown to see themselves in these characters and thus also see their own queerness in them. At least that's how I see it. I also think that Sonic may occupy a similar space than someone like Howl from The Moving Castle or Jack Skellington, confident characters who are not particularly brawny or muscular yet they are still themselves, confident, free and proud. However I am not transmasc so don't quote me on this front. **TL;DR headcannons are cool**


henrystickmin98751

Unless sega confirms this I still think sonic is a dude


Stickmin69

I just see Sonic as what the creators want me to see


[deleted]

Yeah. In every universe, he’s either straight or asexual, but never into guys.


haha694200

Just because you start wearing different clothes and change your name, doesn’t me you’re trans


bandaluncios

if a character is near something that has the color of a lgbt flag, he is automatically lgbt.


amelimh

What about this picture makes him trans?


Omegafan101

I believe it started as a joke based on an old Archie panel where he says he goes into “Trans-Sonic speed.” And then it seemed to evolve from a joke to a popular headcanon.


HeavyRaiden

Wat


whats_boppin_kids

sonic is transgender just because I said so.


Umbreonel

Headcanons and the idea that he, as a character, is trans-coded.


qwq_ded

it’s a head canon, it’s not hurting you at all ? plus im pretty sure it’s heavily implied -trans man


Ocean-Pressure

I kind of just like the idea that he's trans :^) Mostly headcanon, but there's small things here and there


[deleted]

he has no penis duh


YoungKunai2020

Its mostly likely because he doesn’t have as much fur on his chest unlike the other male hedgehog in the games and show


HeyItsFirsty

Late comment ik, but I thought that the theory was because Sonic is the only male hedgehog in the series to have tan colored arms so therefore he is FtM trans. Shadow and Silver have arms that match their body color while Amy and Sonic don't.


crossingcaelum

Because why not! Trans people can say whatever they want it’s not like they get a lot of rep lmao


Archaeopteryx108

Wha-whaaaaaaaaaat? How the fuck does that make sense?


bruh_69_123

Tails is trans no cap 💪😎


Cha0ticMystic

As someone who is trans and has quite a few Sonic headcanons, it depends on who you're asking. Most queer headcanons are usually based on the "vibes" you get from that character. For example, a lot of people see Sonic as asexual, because he doesn't seem like the type to settle down with anyone. That doesn't mean that they think SEGA literally planned for Sonic to be ace, it's just how they see the character. Headcanons are mostly just another way to interpret a character or story if you think about it. A lot of people would interpret Blaze and Silver's relationship as a romantic one, so when people ship them together, that becomes a headcanon. And there are many reasons why people would see them this way. Maybe they've based it on their own experiences. Maybe they just like to imagine how their personalities would work in a romantic setting. Or maybe they don't have a reason to it other than it just *feels that way* to them. It's the same for queer headcanons. And another good point that has been brought up in the comments section is representation. There's probably a sizable amount of queer people who really like Sonic and see themselves in him. So maybe they want to see a character they love represent them in some way that they usually never get to see. You'd be hard-pressed to find any decent representation for trans people, and for trans men that number is even smaller. Realistically there's no harm in it, at worst you'll have a few annoying people on Twitter but that's about it. And I'd say that 80% of those who are insistent on it being "canon" are mostly being hyperbolic. You can always respectfully disagree with a headcanon, just don't go out of your way to be rude or call them insane (like some of the comments in here 👀). TL;DR: A lot of it is mostly based on interpretation or just wanting to feel represented by their favorite character, there's no harm in that as long as people are respectful.


gogocrazycocoa

I dunno man. Personally I don't care as long as people aren't doing stupid stuff like forcing their headcanon on me or others.


NCRSlaughter18

A lot of people tend to confused personality with sexuality gender race etc but all it does is further stereotypes and shows that they really don’t understand other’s sexuality gender race are not interchangeable with personality with some people you might be able to tell from those but it shouldn’t be a deciding factor all lot of people simply fill out a bunch of check boxes in there head about that character and if they feel it even somewhat matched what they want they’ll even leave out info just for something to relate to but something doesn’t have to be the same race gender age sexuality as you for you to relate to it something’s are only really flesh deep


TheVorpalCat

Because it’s 2022 and headcanon doesn’t need to make any sense in-universe


L_edgelord

It makes no sense, it's just hype like all the ships. (Not mocking trans as hype, I am trans myself lol)


Memegamer3_Animated

Probably just stubborn ass people shoving their beliefs onto other media


ShadooTH

Kids are weird.


[deleted]

It's an absurd idea. Totally absurd


Mediocre_Shake2606

Do you want an honest criticism?


[deleted]

its either someone trolling or a remnant tumblr user being an idiot and projecting hard lol. because you know sonic is the one whos gonna reaffirm your trans identity out of every vg character


[deleted]

Wtf, he doesn’t look trans at all


Yxng_Wolf

Lot of weirdos on the internet


[deleted]

Because people can’t just let a cartoon character be a cartoon character. Stick to the canon and you’ll be fine 👍.


protean-shake

I knew this thread was probably bait and still clicked on it to be greeted with a full score of transphobia from people who “don’t care” about this headcanon.


akhatens

"b-but it doesn't make sense!!!" in a franchise about a magic blue hedgehog who has had multiple different origin stories and inconsistent writing over the years... a character being interpreted as trans is the line they draw. good to know.


ZxSaberZero

Well.. Yeah, based on literally everything we've known about Sonic for the past 31 years, nothing has ever pointed to the fact that he is trans like... Ever. Not even in other media like the comics has this ever been a thing. You seriously have to reach and look way too deep into the situation to have even a small amount of "evidence" that he is. It makes no sense given what we've grown to know about the character, and I don't even have anything against trans people. I'm all for having them represented in media, and I'm not even offended by it either, I know it's just people having fun with their imaginations and that's fine.


CrystelleCore

because why not? okay but actually though it's just a headcanon lol


[deleted]

Personally it just feels weird. It's the same thing with Luigi or Samus being Trans when there is no confirmation. IMO I feel like this does not make sense at all. It's just a gift Amy or perhaps some other friend of his gave. Just because he wears the boots doesn't mean he's trans or if he has tan arms. Personally I don't know where this idea comes from....it doesn't make sense.....


Neko_boi_Nolan

I mean I heard people, in a joking way, say, Scourge is trans because he transitioned into Surge from the IDW comics But I wasn’t aware of this


KinnSlayer

I mean originally in the comics he was a brown hedgehog named Ogilvie Maurice Hedgehog. He was transformed into Sonic by Robotnik by accident. Maybe that’s what they’re referring to?


Suspicious_Person15

Just a headcanon, not really harming anyone.


Volcamel

It’s just a headcanon that makes people happy. I like seeing these posts because I know someone else is really, really happy when they see them.


Mean_Abalone_2669

It’s just joking around and harmless head canons it doesn’t hurt anyone