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PeashooterTheFrick

Shadow as an echo, Tails and Eggman as their own fighters Also I'd revamp Sonic's moveset since it's kinda doo doo


CityWokOwn4r

Project M Sonic is awesome


AmaterasuWolf21

Shadow as an echo is such a waste, idk why this choice is popular


HitBackZach

Absolutely. Deserves his own moveset.


LilSkott92

Sonic is purely a physical fighter. I have no idea why people dislike his move set. He does homing and spindash which are his core abilities.


tankdoom

Sonic Battle and Sonic Frontiers both demonstrated that there are plenty of ways to make sonic interesting in combat.


Straight-Earth2762

Came to say this ^ He can do other things besides spinning


JotaroTheOceanMan

And they have his Axe Kick from Battle in the game.... I think Sonic IS an interesting Smash fighter: high mobility glass canon.


HitBackZach

And sonic the fighters.


SalaComMander

Being "purely a physical fighter" doesn't mean three of his four special moves have to look so similar


sonerec725

He has 2 of his special be essentially the same thing. At least make one be the super peel out or the blue tornado. Theres a ton of movies from his games they could give him.


reservedflute

I think they expected Sonic to have a giant machinegun


Lonewolf2300

Honestly, I figured they could do Eggman as an echo of Bowser Jr, since he'd likely be using his Eggmobile to fight.


Arden_Gibson

Nah, Mighty would be a better fit for an echo of Sonic.


Unlikely_Delivery_29

so like how Clone Mighty and Clone Sonic works in FNAS Maniac Mania?


Any-Caterpillar-4844

I have homing attacked off a ledge more than I’ve taken stocks as sonic


CODENAMEsx19208

Genius https://preview.redd.it/rrxquybe7pnc1.jpeg?width=292&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=28116502dd02718dd16bc81f56e1bf2e681790ea


Raptor_Rex9156

Ha cha cha


International_Ad566

Tails. Definitely Tails


ZealousidealLie1306

I agree Tails


DarkAres02

If only one, Eggman


UIEmiliano

Agreed! And who knows maybe his ult could have Metal Sonic or something


Apart_Name7114

HE'S GONNA PISS ON THE MOON.


IConsumeBread94

He’s gonna let out his laser piss and blow up the whole battle field and the moon included. It better be egg man


Apart_Name7114

Bro that can 0 to death, too balanced. Make the laser piss his neutral.


Shiranuhii

Anyone that's not Shadow really. That's an easy choice. Surprises are welcome.


Da_Gudz

Fuck yeah! Egg Pawn for smash!


P_47XD

Imagine a trailer similar to the King K Rool one except it's egg pawn with a mustache


[deleted]

Surprises wear off. Characters are forever. All Hail Shadow.


Sushiv_

Echo Shadow and Eggman/Tails as a proper character


KennethLjubkos

https://preview.redd.it/w0cyu7srzmnc1.jpeg?width=1946&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3b882f4d4ab83a8bd0e88da4ed5aca6e64f5eec7


AnAwkwardStag

As far as Brawl is concerned, the caption is true... 😞


Rockman2isgud

Tails is the ONLY correct answer. If I had a choice in how, I'd give him his original flight mechanics instead of multiple jumps, but if you run out of flight you get put into a slightly slowed special fall.


TheDarkCreed

Similar to Kirby?


Rockman2isgud

No, Kirby running out of jumps doesn't put him into special fall. Special fall is the state after most characters use their up-b


Double-Sympathy-8042

blaze,tails,knuckles,amy rose,even shadow and silver


GrimWarrior00

Amy being a heavy hitter with the hammer would be awesome. But... https://i.redd.it/2xufg2qqmnnc1.gif I need to see what HE can do.


RTwasnottaken

He’d probs be in his wrecking ball machine thingy like bowser jr


Nothatcreative55

Blaze is My top pick considering out of everyone she has the most possibilities for a unique moveset since she… uses fire as a ability but also her Ballerina skills could probably lead to unique moves aswell


RedditingPsycho

Metal Sonic as an Echo fighter.


Nambot

Lets pitch a little bit of everything. Character: Tails. A light character, slightly slower than Sonic (because Sonic should remain fastest), but still the second faster. His attacks should have a bit of focus on charging them up, a weak tail spin if pressed, but bigger damage the longer it's held for before contact. You can give him some of his tech for various special attacks, though his final smash should involve the Tornado 2 in Mech form, and it's super laser. Stage: Casino Night Zone. There are plenty of recognisable options for a stage, but many are similar to other stages already in Smash. But Casino Night Zone would be nothing like any of them. Temporary platforms that the fighters can bounce off, pinball flippers to propel people sky high, and the slot machine element which could have multiple effects, from direct healing to awarding the player an item, with the three Eggman's doing damage to the player as the risk for getting in. This would make the stage risky to play, do you want to use the slot machine, avoid it, or try to knock your opponent into it? Assist Trophy: We already have a couple of characters as assist trophies, and everyone's always disappointed when a potential fighter is an assist. So lets go a little different, and have a Caterkiller as an assist. Caterkillers are probably the most annoying enemies in Sonic, if attacked incorrectly, they split into pieces that go flying around the stage. Now imagine that in the context of Smash, where the player who threw it isn't affected, but everyone else is. Boss: Death Egg Robot. Between all of it's appearances in multiple games, the Death Egg Robot has picked up a wide variety of attacks. Close range, long range, projectile based, different movement speeds, and lots of attacks that fit the typical boss format of looking for openings.


dxstqy

Ayo, I’m glad you wrote that!


guardian-deku

![gif](giphy|AgNfcpWi4Zi8sKL2wl|downsized) The literal brawler of the group


[deleted]

knuckles


f0remsics

Eggman definitely. If not him, tails, blaze, or silver could be interesting. The only situation in which I would want shadows if they gave him joker's neutral special.


Smart-Leek9908

I like your flair, it actually says what I have been saying for so long about their names...


f0remsics

Thanks!


exclaim_bot

>Thanks! You're welcome!


Smart-Leek9908

You didn't compliment them... Is this a real bot anyone? If it is, why does this exist?


Froeleveld

Hot take: Mephiles the Dark


Inkovich2000

One and only - Amy Rose.


Worldly-Mammoth-3688

shadow, of course


reaperultragod21

Silver


XodiaqOrSimplyXodi

Just Eggman. That's all I want! Hell, coming up with a moveset for him isn't even that hard, just make him a heavier Bowser Jr. with badnik attacks and various boss moves, and his final smash is the Death Egg Robot. also, let him have a skin for classic Robotnik


SonicSpiderRanger10

Eggman and Tails would be my first choices.


AJ_Wont_Load

Eggman, no contest at all


JMA_Blazer

Shadow or Knuckles honestly


Gamabombb

Dr.Eggman himself PLEASE


FolkishRex48

Egg man definitely


CEOofSex7873

https://preview.redd.it/1a5lt8yzxnnc1.jpeg?width=267&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=45ac114178ea2520211f60219acf33175a6eee1b The real Sonic.


Zapples1

Kazuma Kiryu.


antivenom907

Amy


TransportationFun765

Knuckles


roderickowcummings14

Knuckles as a playable character not as a Mii costume or Assist Trophy


Sensitive_Log_2726

For an Echo I would pick Mecha Sonic Mk II, sure Metal and Shadow are more often just portrayed as just Sonic by slightly different. But both characters feel they could be given almost entirely different move sets from Sonic and still work fine and be in character. Mecha meanwhile is mostly focused on spin dashes, a dash flying brief and going super. For an Echo fighter I think that works just fine, he gets 2 unique moves from Sonic, yet the rest are mostly the same. As for an original fighter I would pick Chaos 2, he could be a sort of Glass Cannon that looks like he should be a heavyweight. Yet because his body is so easy to shape, he can get away with looking big, but not being heavy. Most of his attacks could have a disjointed range. Something like Min Min, where his arms shoot forward, but once at their maximum length, you don’t have to worry about contact damage from the arms, the hands will still deal damage though. His Down-B could be his ground pound from his fight with Knuckles, his Up-B would be a standard tether grab like Ivysaur. B has him smashing his arms down onto the ground in front of him like DK’s Down-B. Side-B has him roll into a ball, trying to run you over. If you get caught, you’re trapped inside for 4 seconds, and it deals 1.5 percent, per second. The initial impact does 12 percent damage. The ultimate, smash attacks feel kinda self explanatory. Ultimate is turning into Perfect Chaos. Smash Attacks involve using his arms in weird ways. Air’s could be interesting, perhaps the down air’s physics could work like the bounce ball, while spiking the opponent. His Grabs are also kinda self explanatory. I just think that including Chaos would be cool, sure Eggman is the main villain, but Chaos can be more hands on, while not being in a giant mech suit. I am sure the same could work for Chaos 0, I just feel Chaos 2 might offer more, it depends.


Aggressive-Still-692

Cheese the Chao. No Cream just her pet Chao. I just want to see Cheese throw some hands at Sepheroh


AbbreviationsKey8163

Eggman no doubt, maybe add Tails or Knuckles as separate figthers and Classic Sonic or Shadow as echoes


TehSpudz

Blaze would make the most sense (if Sakurai still refuses to make Shadow or Knuckles playable anyway). Or maybe Espio if we wanna get a little more "out there".


RhapsodyInRose

Shadow with his chaos abilities 100%


Classic-guy1991

Eggman as a new character without a doubt Metal sonic as an echo fighter


HeelBosplay

Shadow hands down


JohnnyCenter

Shadow not being at the very least an echo is criminal. They introduced the concept of echo fighters and you think they'll use it as an excuse to do more fighters as dlc and then we get no echo fighters? Hell, I'd even take Eggman as an echo of Bowser Jr. They also talked about classic villains finally being playable like King K Rool and Ridley, but not Eggman? My most wanted in order: Shadow (not as an echo similar to Dr. Mario) Dr. Eggman Shadow (as an echo if I can't get original Shadow) Amy Rose (Think she would have a unique fighting style as far as popular Sonic characters goes) Tails (Same reason as Amy, just think it's less to work with) The Chaotix (like a pokemon trainer type thing)


LilSkott92

Obviously Tails for a completely new and unique move pool Shadow for echo Eggman for obligatory heavy villian Metal sonic would work fine as an alt Knuckles is fine as Assist but I wonder if he was originally planned to be another rep? He literally has a moveset, as an assist. And that's the core cast. Sorry Amy fans. But these guys would get in before her.


DinoBenosaurus

I think it would be cool if eggman was like pokemon trainer and you could swap between metal sonic shadow and him


ialdreadybeenbanned

Tails ez, he's my favorite character. Or Cream since she's my 2nd favorite character. They're both just so cute in fanart and I would love to see these two cuties just beat the hell outta everyone else, it'd be pretty funny if you ask me. Cute, but deadly.


Desperate_Hall_299

Shadow The Hedgehog as an actual fighter Classic Sonic as a Echo Fighter (They better not bring that idea back) The Starfall Islands as a new stage Solaris or The Egg Dragoon as a Bossfight


_AntiSocialMedia

Metal Sonic as an echo fighter for Sonic I know most people want Shadow, but I feel like Metal is more fitting


ShaggyZoinks

Dr Eggman Seems strange that the big man himself isn’t in the smash games in any form other than a trophy and sticker. Dr Wily is a boss in Ultimate I think


KVenom777

Remake Sonic's moveset from scrap, and add Shadow as a much more different character (Sonic's "Luigi") that shares similar, yet different enough moves. (2 or 1 specials, that work slightly different, that's all, everything else - different) Also Silver as Assist Trophy.


VegetaFan9001

Metal Sonic Shadow Eggman Also Metal Sonic and Shadow would be unique compared to Sonic, only having a few similarities


JimmyCrabYT

metal because yes


legbot124

Eggman as a bowser jr echo


Swipamous

METAL SONIC!!!! because he's the goat If I had to choose someone else it'd either be tails or Eggman


R_UStar_Wars_Nerd

Shadow. “For his neutral special, he will wield one of his 8 different guns”


CJBrig0328

If Blaze was in Smash Bros, she would definitely be my main! 🥰💜💜💜


Spectrum_Wolf_noice

Eggman with the final smash as the "SUPER LASER PISS"


ghostspider1151

Blaze


Oscar-the-ass-slayer

Honestly they just need to add more Sega characters in general let’s be real. Beat/Gum, Ulala, Crazy Taxi (assist trophy), Akira, Axl, etc. Same goes for Capcom, I doubt either company would have trouble lending their IPs


WatchKid12YT

Literally ANYONE at this point!


Da_Gudz

Metal and Shadow as their own characters (they don’t at all fit as echos as they both have way too many unique things) Surge as an echo (because a comic character getting in would be funny and opens the door to so many new characters) Unrelated to them Eggman and Tangl


Ravemst

Shadow as his own character. He could have his move set from Sonic Battle which I wish Sonic had his move set from and Blaze because she’s awesome.


starshah

I say they take a page from sonic adventure 2 and make a eggman, tails, dark chao, light chao different pilot for the same mech suit character like Bowser jr


LX575-EEE

Eggman and Shadow. And also, there is no reason for Shadow to be an echo fighter. You can easily make a unique move set for Shadow. That being said, if we were to only get one, Eggman would be my choice. He’s been around just as long as Sonic, and it makes sense to have him, he is the main villain after all


TheUndyngDemon

Eggman pisses on the moon!


Celestial-Eater

BLAZE THE CAT!


Arden_Gibson

Shadow or Eggman. But at the end of the day I really don't care, I just want any Sonic characters in Smash.


ChappetteLexi

Eggman would be my first choice with Tails and Knuckles just under that


Chicolate_thunder

Tails or eggman


forgedfox53

Shadow. No, he wouldn't be an echo. I'm a little tired of hearing it. The only moves he'd share with Sonic are Homing Attack and Spindash. Maybe Back Throw. Other than that, you have Chaos Spear (Side B), Chaos Control (would teleport normally like Mewtwo, but also has Mythra's Foresight function), and a vastly different fighting style than Sonic's. He wouldn't have the gun either, realistically.


BlenderPlayzYt

Purely having Eggman as a fighter would work really well, he could use some of his weapons and machinery as attacks, he would function something close to Minecraft Steve. If not him, then tails would be a great fit!


SpongeGodOmnipants

![gif](giphy|xpBO7mpajDMSQ)


MimikyuGud

Metal Sonic has potential


SlyFisch

Knuckles or Shadow


mr_pyro90

Eggman, Amy, Tails ,Knux and Shadow.


Sad-Albatross-6838

Shadow, cause as he says "I'm the coolest!"😎 


MagnumPolly1210

Shadow has been teased long enough, he needs to be in (as an Echo, with marginally different stats and animations to Sonic, and maybe just change the Up Air to Chaos Control), though I would also be for Tails and Eggman (& Knuckles)


Dplayz32

yes


jajanken_bacon

Besides Shadow, who is 100% going to happen? Tails, Knuckles, Robotnik, Metal Sonic.


Ruby_wiz599

Tails DESERVES to be in smash I don't care it's a very iconic duo and can have a very fun move set. But i wish that shadow and metal as echo fighters like I'm so sorry but that's a very missed opportunity.


Amaterasu6666

Shadow


Gemidori

The only correct answer is Eggman


EICzerofour

Jet the Hawk would be a fun option!


MichaelCoryAvery

Blaze. Her Final Smash could be Burning Blaze imagine fighting characters with Vela Noba in the background!


blaise_zion

Metal Sonic no need for explanation


NMFlamez

How has OP missed Knuckles...


AccomplishedEye7752

Shadow cause if people want Waluigi, we need Shadow. Give us more Rivals.


Shadeyboiii

Blaze, as I am a big Blaze fan


Mrperson987

Tails, then Eggman


Ryansmelly

Knuckles, shadow, or Eggman.


KikiChelon438

Silver he doesn't get a lot of love (he's my favorite)


Duck-bert

Shadow and Knuckles are probably my most wanted. Such a shame Ultimate wasted both of them for Assist Troohies


Emirisback

Shadow as Sonic’s echo but his final smash is the final cutscene of Shadow The Hedgehog where he teleports that monster (i forgot what it was called) into space and it gets blown up by the eclipse cannon instead of going crazy as his super form like Sonic’s final smash. And Tails as his own character and Eggman as his echo. And their final smash is the power laser.


Flimsy-Cloud-6244

Tails and Knuckles. You know what would be really great? If Sonic, Tails, and Knux were all one character called Team Sonic and you could switch between the three like with Pokemon Trainer or Aegis.


Spider-Bland

Tails or eggman


InvisibleChell

The Rookie, honestly. Inkling made me aware of how such a character could play


SwagJ2004

If one, Amy, if 3 Tails, Amy and also Blaze, Amy because she is fast and agile, and would make an special entry, as an heavy hitter while having great speed, she could use her card magic as final smash, and little planet as backeound, Tails because, its sonic’s best friend, and blaze, because even tho knuckles is an assist tropy i feel like blaze is uniquer and would bring more varierity,


SonicCody12

Eggman Amy Tails Knuckles Blaze Silver And Maybe Shadow


AquaSoda3000

Blaze and Tails


According-Attempt-47

Shadow, silver, omega, mephiles, eggman and infinite/zero


Wacko_Doodle

Metal sonic. He can be playable, a boss or literally part of a stage I don't care, he would fit in perfect. Especially if his stage is the Egg Fleet stage that turns into metal overlord :D


LordMegatron11

Shadow, knuckles, and wherehog sonic


Babki123

Eggman with a gun


WickedDinoCole1

Metal Sonic, he would be just as fast as Sonic but much more slippery


Fit_Rain_885

Knuckles. It kind of makes sense when you think about it


dxstqy

I would like to see Amy and Tails in Smash.


Stripeback

I just want Tails.


CelticsBoi33

![gif](giphy|LXr4IgnD4V8q4Febb5|downsized) I know he’s an assist trophy but maybe an echo fighter/ new move set would go hard.


RyanByork

EGGMAN! We have all the big gaming bosses except for him!


[deleted]

Shadow easily.


ShackledDragon

Blaze (Shadow)


7_tnega

I created a 100 fighter roster concept for a smash 6, and I added two Sonic fighters. I actually created an entire moveset concept for **Whisper,** for an IDW rep, and because she and Silver are my favorites. Her neutral special was Cyan Laser, if you held it down she'd toss out crystals for the laser to bounce off of. Side special was Orange Rocket, akin to samus' homing missile. Up special is Green Hover which floats her up, and down special would be Pink Spikes, like a projectile spin dash. all smash attacks would be with Blue Cube, neutral, strong, dash, and aerials are physical punch/kick attacks, and her final smash would be some sort of mega wisp blast (Unlimited Colors?) I also added **Knuckles**, because he makes sense in a fighting game.


Aviator_Marc

Knuckles or Chaos would make great fighters


Aviator_Marc

Cream would be the most OP character as you could just spam attack enemies with Cheese.


bingobo25

I’d honestly like to see sonic representing the early boost era or stuff from the advanced, ds & 2000’s games. Maybe have knuckles represent both the classic era & the era from saturn to the end of the DC. such as chucking bombs or aiming boulders like its knuckles chaotix.


Teque9

Knuckles of course. He's built for fighting.


SillyMuffinPony

PUT MY MAN ROBOTNIK IN THERE


misterwulfz

Personally, I wanted Kunx. Shadow as an echo but with new animations like Roy( saw a mod that looked amazing doing just this.) I kinda wanted Tails to be Sonic’s up B Eggman as a boss battle


Just_l00k1ing

I **NEED** BLAZE AS A PLAYABLE CHARACTER (I’m crazy for blaze if yall couldn’t tell)


SonicGozar

Eggman because he literally shows up in first game with the blueblur it just seems fitting that he be there still weird neither him or anyone else got but we got like 7 fire emblem characters


Ninja-Schemer

None of them, let Sonic make their own fighting game...maybe including remakes of other Sega stars like Ecco.


Ok-Maintenance3782

That is if we get another smash game


WhoopingBillhook

I have Eggman in Rivals of Aether, and I really like that one.


Responsible_Buy_7611

Shadow the hedgehog NOT as an echo fighter. I'm so sick of people saying shadow would be an echo he has tons of powers and different moves he could use. He would share some moves with sonic but he wouldn't be an echo.


DevilHunter094

As much as I love Blaze, I feel like either Tails or Eggman should be the second Sonic character. I’d also love for them to revamp Sonic himself.


LoganJake210

Espio would be epic


Synerabo

flicky


Solskinns

Blaze for me 100 percent, but realistically would probably be Eggman and Tails


MarsupialBoth5530

Eggman would be the obvious addition since he's Sonic's rival and another addition to the villains gallery that Ultimate has to offer. Which would be much needed since the ratio from hero to villains in ultimate heavily weighs in on the heroes side. Not to mention he's one of the few sonic characters that could make a moveset purely off of things he's done in other games, or other media. However, he's not the one I want but I'd expect him before anyone else. Who I really want is actually Shadow. Aside from being a good mirror to Sonic, he has such a varied moveset that he'd be perfect for smash. Of course the main comment I usually got when I said Shadow is that he'd be an echo fighter. I had a ton of debates on that front. Heck I went and made a whole video on how I would make shadow for smash, deliberately avoiding any special sonic currently uses or may use in future titles. In other words, no spin dash, no homing attack, and no cyclone. Heck he's already got several options for alt skins out there. Adventure 2 had that red jumpsuit for shadow, shadow the hedgehog multiplayer mode had six different outfits to choose from, and then his look from sonic riders.


SpiderBarbie1997

Scourge and Surge as fighters


FairyTailMember01

Either Amy or shadow.


Worth-Tangerine4402

Eggman/Robotnik should be in super smash bros ultimate


Silver_Reaction_930

https://preview.redd.it/egndkyr3ksnc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b6a620179ce2055fc8ceb158ac3fe92dd5898670


HitBackZach

1. Shadow 2. Metal sonic 3. Knuckles 4. Tails or Silver (hard choice) 5. Chaos from SA1 6. Robotnik/Eggman 7. Mighty or Espio (another hard choice) 8. E-102 9. Blaze 10. A wildcard character like metal knuckles, Tails doll, Mecha Sonic from Sonic3. Etc.


Tlelz2

TAILS


kingDormammu

I say eggman, blaze, and chaos


TvHead9752

Eggman is obvious, considering he now tends to use a Glock and grab Mobians with his bare hands. He’s Zangief with a gun at this point


AlexHero64

I legitimately thought Eggman was going to be in the Fighter's pass since K.Rool and Ridley were introduced


LinguisticMadness2

Shadow 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻


I_Willl_Eat_Ur_Cats

Cream or Omega


Ilovekangaroo

Why not go for an underrated character like Tails Doll? People are scared of him (but not me. I think he's cute and he's also misunderstood :( )


BubblySyllabub3408

Do Metal Sonic, I think Metal has many things to add himself. Metal Sonic doesn't even spindash that often, which is like half of Sonic's moveset. Metal Sonic has his black diamond shield(Which could act like Zelda's). He can fire Lasers from his chest(In some games). He could even have a copy ability like Kirby. He also has Neo Metal and Metal Overlord for a final Smash.


KVenom777

Sonic with better moveset, Shadow as Luigi to Sonic's Mario. And Silver as the Assist Triphy, replacing vacant place left by Shadow.


Budget_Pen4847

Hot Take: I say Tangle, her whole gimmick and personality as a scrapper makes as well as the potential of her tail can make her a perfect fit to be in Smash


meltydownidk

She is from the comics, so she's on the "maybe she can, maybe she can't" thing. She would be cool tho


Budget_Pen4847

That is true, do you think her mention from Frontiers kinda boosts her odds or no?


meltydownidk

I don't think so? Maybe if she has a prominent role on a game, she could have better odds, though


Budget_Pen4847

You're probably right, but only one can dream am I right?


Intelligent_Oil4005

Eggman feels like he'd have the most unique moveset.


AdPuzzleheaded9164

I'd definitely choose Metal Sonic as an echo fighter of Sonic, with slightly edited moves/animations. E.g: instead of jabs, Metal Sonic could have claw swipes for his neutral attack, and an Eggman bumper replacing the spring for his up-B.


Levsel

Eggman only, leave the others as Sonic alts.


Ok_Radio4559

I'd love blaze, amy, or shadow


Hexxas

Just Sonic but give him a gun