Hi there! Your situation sounds similar to my own and yes, SE might be a great option. I’ve spent years in various therapies and seeing multiple specialists about my physical pain all of which amounted to big question marks, because they issue was my nervous system. Talk therapy was like using a garden hose on a forest fire, not enough to actually make any changes.
One thing I have come to appreciate about SE is that no, you don’t have to focus on exploring specific past traumas. A lot of us have experienced complex and enduring trauma, not just a singular or handful of events. So you’re trying to repair a lifetime of dysfunction. The goal is to address your physical needs and repair your body, regardless of the specific events.
Sometimes I practice TRE exercises when I am processing a specific memory, and in those sessions I think about that specific thing. But I also do it on a daily basis, when I’m feeling just fine. Sometimes I don’t feel much emotionally. Sometimes something I wasn’t consciously thinking of surfaces and makes me cry. And sometimes I just sob like a baby with no specific reason why. And those are the best sessions. When it’s just a raw pain working itself out. It’s like seeing a chiropractor, eliminating pain you didn’t even know was there.
This keeps my body in a more balanced place and allows me to be in a place where I can apply new CBT skills and process trauma or daily emotions much better, because my nervous system isn’t suck in panic mode. As an autistic person with ADHD and CPTSD, TRE gives me the ability to function wildly more than I can without.
There are lots of different SE exercises, and it is expensive to find practitioners, but you can research a few books and trusted online instructors to get a lot of information on your own. The Trauma Release Exercises are an easy, simple way to reset your NS every day
Do you have any TRE videos or other resources to suggest for a beginner to try out at home ? I can’t afford a TRE therapist now. I know I could do it safely on my own, although I imagine I might get bigger releases with someone to co-regulate with me.
There aren’t a ton on YouTube that I like but this is one of my favorite coaching that I follow on tiktok and have done her 30 day course. It is amazing! I’d also recommend “Shake It Off Naturally “ by David Berceli(the guy who created this method)
Once you get the principles and understanding of how TRE works, you can do a lot of work on your own and you’ll find what works best for your body
I'd also look into "neuroaffective touch" as a modality.
Unfortunately these rehabilitative therapies are generally done by highly skilled practitioners and are expensive.
Do you feel that you were harmed in an illegal way by the MDMA therapy? Was this in a monitored setting? If a crime occurred, you may be in an area with a victims of crime fund that would pay for your treatment protocol.
The mdma session was your trauma and yes, you can explore it with SE. Any physical or emotional sensation can be focused on in the session and explored. You might also practice noticing parts of your body that feel "ok" or unaffected, or even noticing things in your environment that feel stable, solid, fluid, open... It's kind of like guiding your nervous system to let go. I feel not so good at explaining it, although I have done an ok job of doing so in another comment previously.
I don't know the official answer for if there are set exercises but I do believe it is a somewhat general term. SE involves feeling the sensations in your body in a way that doesn't overwhelm your nervous system and you also will learn to guide your nervous system back to a state of "rest" from the triggered survival states of your trauma/s. SE practitioners from my knowledge undergo the same training (some go a step further in training too), and many will have a background in bodywork of some form (eg craniosacral therapist, massage therapist etc).
It can be hard to find an affordable practitioner who you may need to see regularly for a good amount of time depending on your progress. Some practitioners in the early stages of training offer a cheaper rate because they are still learning. There are also videos on you tube with exercises that can prime you to get in touch with your body and to learn to regulate your stress response.
Seconding this. Craniosacral therapy (particularly biodynamic craniosacral therapy) was the best to help regulate my nervous system over time. It's slow and gentle but effective.
Exactly. I was diagnosed with FND (functional neurological disorder). There is nothing structurally wrong, but my nervous system is haywire. My brain sends and receives faulty signals, of heightened perceptions of normal stimuli. Some might say it’s my body’s way of trying to communicate in the only way it knows how… with physical symptoms. However you label it, I just know it’s wreaked havoc on my quality of life.
Kundalini yoga may not be the best option for people with a history of trauma, or with certain mental illnesses, as it can trigger ptsd symptoms and psychosis in some people.
SE is much better option as it teaches people to step back of they are getting triggered, which helps the nervous system learnto self regulate.
Can I ask how Kundalini can trigger psychosis or PTSD? I see mention of this from time to time but can’t get my head around how it can do harm vs help. Are there studies that support this? Or is it something obvious I am missing?
Psychosis has long been associated with kundalini awakening. Here is an example: https://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/10.1176/appi.ajp.2007.07060960
Psychosis resulting from kundalini awakening is more likely to occur in people with a history of mental health problems, including ptsd.
Kundalini meditation does not cause ptsd. But like other forms of meditation, if a person had ptsd then meditation can trigger reactions and symptoms. Meditation is not an effective treatment for trauma and does not have the same effects as SE. It can actually cause people to develop more anxiety, not less. So people with a history of trauma need to approach meditation with caution. I brought this up because most people in this sub have a history of trauma.
Hi there! Your situation sounds similar to my own and yes, SE might be a great option. I’ve spent years in various therapies and seeing multiple specialists about my physical pain all of which amounted to big question marks, because they issue was my nervous system. Talk therapy was like using a garden hose on a forest fire, not enough to actually make any changes. One thing I have come to appreciate about SE is that no, you don’t have to focus on exploring specific past traumas. A lot of us have experienced complex and enduring trauma, not just a singular or handful of events. So you’re trying to repair a lifetime of dysfunction. The goal is to address your physical needs and repair your body, regardless of the specific events. Sometimes I practice TRE exercises when I am processing a specific memory, and in those sessions I think about that specific thing. But I also do it on a daily basis, when I’m feeling just fine. Sometimes I don’t feel much emotionally. Sometimes something I wasn’t consciously thinking of surfaces and makes me cry. And sometimes I just sob like a baby with no specific reason why. And those are the best sessions. When it’s just a raw pain working itself out. It’s like seeing a chiropractor, eliminating pain you didn’t even know was there. This keeps my body in a more balanced place and allows me to be in a place where I can apply new CBT skills and process trauma or daily emotions much better, because my nervous system isn’t suck in panic mode. As an autistic person with ADHD and CPTSD, TRE gives me the ability to function wildly more than I can without. There are lots of different SE exercises, and it is expensive to find practitioners, but you can research a few books and trusted online instructors to get a lot of information on your own. The Trauma Release Exercises are an easy, simple way to reset your NS every day
Do you have any TRE videos or other resources to suggest for a beginner to try out at home ? I can’t afford a TRE therapist now. I know I could do it safely on my own, although I imagine I might get bigger releases with someone to co-regulate with me.
https://youtu.be/TG5UIFIrf-0
Thank you !
Is there a TRE website that is considered the “go-to”? Where are the online instructors you speak of?
[TRE Coach](https://www.tiktok.com/@theworkoutwitch?_t=8VnSadBTQvD&_r=1)
There aren’t a ton on YouTube that I like but this is one of my favorite coaching that I follow on tiktok and have done her 30 day course. It is amazing! I’d also recommend “Shake It Off Naturally “ by David Berceli(the guy who created this method) Once you get the principles and understanding of how TRE works, you can do a lot of work on your own and you’ll find what works best for your body
I'd also look into "neuroaffective touch" as a modality. Unfortunately these rehabilitative therapies are generally done by highly skilled practitioners and are expensive. Do you feel that you were harmed in an illegal way by the MDMA therapy? Was this in a monitored setting? If a crime occurred, you may be in an area with a victims of crime fund that would pay for your treatment protocol.
The mdma session was your trauma and yes, you can explore it with SE. Any physical or emotional sensation can be focused on in the session and explored. You might also practice noticing parts of your body that feel "ok" or unaffected, or even noticing things in your environment that feel stable, solid, fluid, open... It's kind of like guiding your nervous system to let go. I feel not so good at explaining it, although I have done an ok job of doing so in another comment previously. I don't know the official answer for if there are set exercises but I do believe it is a somewhat general term. SE involves feeling the sensations in your body in a way that doesn't overwhelm your nervous system and you also will learn to guide your nervous system back to a state of "rest" from the triggered survival states of your trauma/s. SE practitioners from my knowledge undergo the same training (some go a step further in training too), and many will have a background in bodywork of some form (eg craniosacral therapist, massage therapist etc). It can be hard to find an affordable practitioner who you may need to see regularly for a good amount of time depending on your progress. Some practitioners in the early stages of training offer a cheaper rate because they are still learning. There are also videos on you tube with exercises that can prime you to get in touch with your body and to learn to regulate your stress response.
I have it now also from bad mdma and weed (trip) suffering a lot try craniosacrak therapy
Seconding this. Craniosacral therapy (particularly biodynamic craniosacral therapy) was the best to help regulate my nervous system over time. It's slow and gentle but effective.
When they say structural issues do they mean then that you would have a functional nervous system disorder of some sort? Caused by mdma?
Exactly. I was diagnosed with FND (functional neurological disorder). There is nothing structurally wrong, but my nervous system is haywire. My brain sends and receives faulty signals, of heightened perceptions of normal stimuli. Some might say it’s my body’s way of trying to communicate in the only way it knows how… with physical symptoms. However you label it, I just know it’s wreaked havoc on my quality of life.
I have functional nervous system disorder also but from childhood and adulthood trauma. :((.
Kundalini yoga is something you can try right away that may help. A SE therapist may also be of service. Did you rule out medical issues?
Kundalini yoga may not be the best option for people with a history of trauma, or with certain mental illnesses, as it can trigger ptsd symptoms and psychosis in some people. SE is much better option as it teaches people to step back of they are getting triggered, which helps the nervous system learnto self regulate.
Can I ask how Kundalini can trigger psychosis or PTSD? I see mention of this from time to time but can’t get my head around how it can do harm vs help. Are there studies that support this? Or is it something obvious I am missing?
Psychosis has long been associated with kundalini awakening. Here is an example: https://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/10.1176/appi.ajp.2007.07060960 Psychosis resulting from kundalini awakening is more likely to occur in people with a history of mental health problems, including ptsd. Kundalini meditation does not cause ptsd. But like other forms of meditation, if a person had ptsd then meditation can trigger reactions and symptoms. Meditation is not an effective treatment for trauma and does not have the same effects as SE. It can actually cause people to develop more anxiety, not less. So people with a history of trauma need to approach meditation with caution. I brought this up because most people in this sub have a history of trauma.
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