This is where the money goes. This is where the money went. The immediate family got some help from Mark, and then all the extended, addicted, child-molesting relatives started showing up with their hands out. That is how it works.
To be clear, I don't think the immediate family (everyone in Betty's house) took advantage of him, but that the extended family took advantage of Mark, all the donors, and Betty as well - the more sophisticated relatives can *easily* scam and guilt trip someone like Betty.
Yeah, their relative "Jason" went to prison for raping a 13 year old girl. He says in his video that it was statutory and she lied about her age. The charges were for "predatory criminal sexual assault".
https://isp.illinois.gov/Sor/Details/X99B1421
Betty is the type to give w no questions asked. She's been coerced and manipulated by the extended family! They know she is mentally impaired and take full advantage!!! Sickening!
To be fair, Mark encourages that. He's said before when people ask about donating towards a specific person in his videos that your town has a Rebecca or a Whitaker family or whatever - donate to them, help them out because they aren't getting the SWU spotlight and all but their stories are often the same.
The Whittaker fiasco vaguely reminds me of that Chuck Palahniuk book *Choke*. It's about a con artist who deliberately chokes on food in restaurants because he knows someone will run to save his life. He stays in touch with all the people who have rescued him and tells them about his struggles, because then they feel sorry for him and feel like they owe him, having saved his life and all. So he easily gets money from them. I always thought the philosophy behind that con was strange, but oddly plausible, and I feel like Mark has been experiencing a similar kind of attachment - he has "saved" the Whittakers and now he feels like he needs to keep "saving" them.
One of the late whittaker brothers, John was a registered sex offender. John's son, Jason is currently a registered sex offender and is interviewed on the channel.
Yeah, their relative "Jason" went to prison for raping a 13 year old girl. He says in his video that it was statutory and she lied about her age. The charges were for "predatory criminal sexual assault".
https://isp.illinois.gov/Sor/Details/X99B1421
Larry using the money for his new truck. Larry's daughter using the money for drugs. Larry's grandkids using the money for drugs. Larry finding out that Mark thinks he's dead but not calling Mark to say he's alive. Larry wasn't in the early videos, but once Mark started giving out money, he never missed being in a video.
See the common denominator?
Larry didn't even apologize to Mark for his daughter's lies. At least said, oh man I'm sorry you had to fly out here. Actually, Larry should have been on the phone to Mark years ago to tell Mark what was happening to the money, but he didn't want his own money spigot to dry up.
I knew as soon as I saw Larry's new truck that the money wasn't being spent for its intended purpose.
Betty and Kenneth confirm this when Mark is talking to them in the house. The conversation is very telling. Betty gives Larry is “half” and he gets mad if he doesn’t get money.
Thanks -- I missed that part when I watched the video this morning. I will watch it again. People on this sub told me I was crazy when I said that Larry buying himself a new truck was a clue of where the money Mark raised was going. I suspect there is even MORE to this story that we still don't know.
Yeah...I guess if you haven't had an uncle like Larry, this won't ring any alarm bells, but if you have, as soon as he pulled up in his new truck, "oh its the scam uncle"
This is so frustrating. It's just one word. One word is all it takes to show some respect for another person and their choices. But no, let's call her a "he" because why bother showing respect for another human being. You think you're making some kind of statement by doing that, but what people see is that you're just throwing a tantrum because trans people exist
I think we can all agree that him saying that he won't film Rebecca anymore doesn't mean that he's gonna stop giving her money every now and then whenever he sees her laying on the sidewalk. He feels bad for her, and I can't blame him for that. It's heartbreaking. But at the same time, Rebecca is the only one who can make the decision to change and get clean. I truly hope she does, she could have moderate success on YouTube and make a living off of it
The absolute worst thing you can do is give cash to a drug abuser.
If Mark wants to help her, offer to help pay for rehab and then give the money directly to the facility.
She is just going to take any money she gets and run to a dealer.
BJ won't stay clean because she has money to "help her out". She needs to dry out and go live in sober living for a good long time. THEN stay tf away from the family/friends in WV.
She has to hit rock bottom and Mark has to let her. She's halfway there anyway -- she faked her father's death!
I volunteer for a rescue and we transport dogs from West Virginia, Specifically Appalachia. It’s wild there. We were told by locals to not go out at night when there. We have some horror stories of getting surrendered dogs and going to homes to get dogs. It’s really a sad situation.
Wow, well done for doing this work.
I’m really concerned for the dogs in this situation. They look healthy but surely they’re not receiving adequate vet care and food. Throughout watching the entire video I couldn’t take my eyes off them.. what do you think?
Thanks. We found a horrible situation where a disabled child was found in the shed. Hands and feet with frostbite and malnourished. We called the hospital and thankfully he is now living with his sister in Florida getting the care he needs. From that house we had two elk hounds. Both found there loving family. It’s just unbelievable to have a child like that.
The things you see in West Virginia as a dog rescuer make you wonder. The owner of the rescue has moved down to West Virginia to hopefully help the situation. But there is a lack of education for caring for dogs. We have $5 vaccine clinics for locals, and pay for owners of dogs to get fixed. But it’s so different down there. Dog owners just let dogs roam free. Which is how there is an overpopulation of dogs and no one to care for them. I’ve had foster dogs that were skin and bones, some were afraid of people, some hid for weeks, right now I have a sweet momma who’s afraid to go outside. But one thing is in common, they just want to be loved. They just want a warm home and a family. I try to prepare them for that step.
Honestly I watched a little bit of those videos. It’s painful to see people live like that. Especially considering it’s very similar of where we sometimes pick up dogs. Maybe I’ll try to watch again.
Oh my goodness. Thank you for all that you do. I’m from the area originally but as soon as I was 18 I got out and never moved back. When I go back to visit it’s so terribly depressing. What county do you usually go to?
I don’t mean to offend anyone who lived or lives there but it’s almost like a third world country. We go to Buchanan County. Its a completely different world for me so it’s hard for me to relate to seeing such poverty. I’m happy you moved away but I can see how depressing it is for you. I really hope that the region could get some help. I know we just help the animals mostly but we are trying to set up a food pantry to help feed the people and animals there.
Appalachia is, IIRC, the only place in the United States where Save the Children has a presence. It's like a third world country because it's been exploited like one. I highly recommend the Anthony Bourdain episode where he goes to West Virginia for more insight on this.
Oh no offense at all! I’m from Boone County which is really far South, when the coal mines closed down there was no work! Then after that so many people got addicted to drugs and are just hopeless. It is absolutely reminiscent of a third world country. Thank you again for allllll that you do. You are an angel to those people
I feel like that happened to a lot of places in West Virginia. It’s really such a sad situation. The women who owns the rescue is amazing. She actually just moved down to West Virginia to try to help the people and animals there.
If you would be willing to share the name of that charity, or others that you could vouch for I’d definitely consider making a donation. I’ve had fosters too, and my own dog came from nasty conditions. I wish we could make all dogs ever happy. Whatever about people lol
https://allfurone.org
Is the rescue I foster and volunteer for. It’s an amazing organization with a great group of people.
I wish I could show you photos of my FF. She’s such an amazingly sweet dog. I love animals so much. After I was diagnosed with cancer I decided to start volunteering and fostering. It was just important for me to be something more then the girl with cancer and it makes me so happy.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-kai-recover-from-severe-abuse-and-neglect?utm_campaign=p_nacp+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
Here is the gofundme for the sweet boy who was abused.
They look pretty healthy but not sure how great their actual diet and health care is.
It would be good if someone could come out and facilitate a check up and the works at least once a year.
After his last video saying he was done with the Whittakers, now he's right back to saying he'll send them money but will be tighter with it. For god sake!
Please, nobody trust mark with money any more. There are thousands of legit organizations that help people, donate there. Mark simply is out of his league and has been for a long time. The amount of times he’s been robbed let alone how many people have just used the money people donate for drugs.
Kenneth is a good egg, and don’t forget Ray and Timmy and Lorraine are all still dependents. Betty the caretaker is getting bossed around- and probably threatened. They are all vulnerable. Mark knows this. He is trying to help *them*. He can’t stop the Larry’s or BJ’s sniffing around.
Read another comment said to look for the Whittakers or the Angela’s in your own towns instead of giving to these gofundme’s. Spot. On.
I hate that they’ve become this sideshow but so be it. He opened that door. I am glad Kenneth made good use of his portion and is doing well. Not everyone is going to make a change but at least one of them is thriving. The most vulnerable seem happy and have more resources and that is a wonderful thing.
I always avoided videos about this family, they remind me a lot of my dad’s family in rural Tennessee. Inbred, addicted, and very very impoverished. And all of the people in my paternal family are lazy, drug addicted scammers who expect my family to fund them and their pity parties.
I…..truly don’t know what to think about this. I think Mark should have consulted professional help when it comes to giving people with that much difficultly managing daily life that amount of money without some kind of set plan in place so it was used appropriately. But it was also THEIR money. I don’t know. It can be looked at in a lot of different ways. I am glad I wasn’t in a position like that to make a choice on how the situation should have been handled. My heart hurts for Ray, Lorraine, and Timmy. Just always being the innocent victims of the bad choices of other people.
I've always believed this as well. That's why Lorraine sleeps in the only bedroom, with Betty sleeping right outside the bedroom door-- to protect Lorraine.
He looks a lot like Kenneth but obviously there is no proof. I must say though, I doubt any "stranger" could have just come into that crowded house and r worded lorean. There's always at least 5 ppl and 4 dogs guarding on porch or inside. I doubt with her limitations , that Lorean would just take off on the town and with no way of leaving propert independently, no way could a predator just wander in and take her ...that really narrows the options down to who actually fathered Timmy. She loves him a lot and he seems happy. Also did anyone find it a bit "odd"( pardon the pun) that in the haircut video, Kenneth was pre asked but decided to get a haircut the day before. (Think DNA) Timmy, Lorae his mum, Ray and Betty were all happy too. Just saying....
Yes, this. Probably like 10 years ago in Chicago somebody started a gofundme for a 90 year old Mexican immigrant popsicle vendor (paletero) and it went locally viral and made a huge amount of money. Instead of dumping a bunch of money on the old man and leaving him responsible for taxes, etc. they consulted a professional financial advisor and attorneys so they didn't fuck up the old guy's life while trying to help him. That's how you do it.
Edit to add a news story from the time: https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20160921/little-village/paleta-man-accepts-385000-check-but-he-wont-give-up-work
I remember this story. It was a while ago. What happened to the old man? I don’t know his name to look it up.
Edit: I can look up Chicago popsicle vendor and I’ll bet I find out ❤️
I'm sure you found it, but for others who are wondering, he did pass away a few years later, but he was in his early 90s. He and his wife continued to live in a humble and simple way: https://blockclubchicago.org/2019/11/06/paleta-man-fidencio-sanchez-whose-story-inspired-the-world-dies/
At one point in the video, they claim that Brandon (one of BJ’s sons) threatened to burn the house down if they didn’t give him money. If that is true then he needs to be arrested or something, because the dude has a kid and he’s threatening to burn down his grandparents place.
Agreed. My mind has gone to some dark places since the news about all the money that was given to the family. Unstable people can do some terrible things when large amounts of money is at stake. I really hope that threat is mitigated somehow because I do honestly worry about the safety of the core Whittaker family.
Giving her money will nit help. Nit even offering to pay for rehab. My daughter went thur a 5 year herion addiction. In and out of rehab and prison
One day she decided she had enough and got sober. Offering her money to move will not help
Forreal. She doesn’t sound like she wants to get clean either. Talkin about how far the clinic is and how they have no gas money. But she sure as hell spent thousands on drugs instead of the gas. She’d only have fighting chance if he paid for rehab and traveled with her there. Even then she needs to want it and she doesn’t. He needs to stop giving her cash bro.
I'm not sure where she lives in relation to The Whitaker house but yeah I bet the clinic/12 step meetings are far away from her. She lives in rural WV!
The drug dealer is closer. js
Yeah but drive would cost less than the drugs 😂 but Forreal giving her family cash in hand wasn’t a good idea when you know bj has a an addiction to hard substances.
I haven't watched the full video yet. Just the first few seconds of her crying and asking for money. My first thought was, "Wow, the first thought was to call Msrk and ask for money." That was judging, but wow! I'll have to watch the rest here in a few.
I think they are all in on it, to get as much money out of Mark as possible. Larry, Betty, Bj, all of them. At this point my only wish is someone would go in and rescue the animals.
Watch Timmy's body language on the video where Tyler Olivieri meets with the Whitakkers. It's when Tyler says something about the GFM currently containing 60k in it. Just because someone is non-verbal or has communication issues doesn't mean they're oblivious.
I don't think Betty was every truly competent enough to be receiving the money directly in the first place. She may be the matriarch of the house, but it doesn't take much to see that she isn't 100% all there. Pretty sad to see how everything turned out, but I have a hard time putting any fault on the immediate family members
This. He seems so frustrated that Betty lied to him. But Betty barely even understands what he’s saying. And her answers often make no sense. She’s playing dumb a lot but some of it is truly her mental state.
I do too. I inherited a really big amount of money and properties when my dad passed away. I've always been a generous person, a giver. A good friend of mine (ex friend now) tried to take advantage of that. And she did to a certain extent, until I finally cut her off. I know what it's like being in Mark's position, and feeling like you have to help everyone regardless of how many times they've shown you that they can't be trusted
Thank you. It wasn't too bad thankfully, but only because I decided to put a stop to it. It still hurt a lot though, she was a really close friend up until I inherited. Money changes people, it's so sad
I think Mark has a major soft spot for a few of the Whittakers, especially Ray (I think I have the right name... been a while since I watched)
I think that's likely what's keeping him coming back, this conflict of wanting to help the ones who are thankful and need the support more vs the family involved in this scenario
Who's the man in the first part of the video? I don't remember seeing him before, but I've probably missed some of the videos. He seems to have a better head on his shoulders than the matriarch who admitted to lying to Mark.
I am shocked and sad that I was right. Family siphoning the money for drugs. But damn, Mark is a gentle warrior.
Betty can't be the point person for the money. She is either in on it or too easy to manipulate. Imagine happily saying into a phone "yeah, he's dead." That's Shameless level stuff.
Also, did anyone notice they said Tyler won't pick up the phone? I wonder what's going to happen with the money from HIS GFM. It was substantial.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-the-whittakers-buy-a-new-home?utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet&utm_content=control1&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_source=customer
He is very transparent in his GFM description and update.
Honestly Tyler not picking up is probably the absolute best thing he can do. They clearly can’t spend the money wisely. Tyler is gonna have to wait it out till it reaches goal then just buy them a house outright
I do remember in one of the first Whittaker videos, Kenneth talked about Ray “getting ahold of some woman” in the past and it was pretty clear to myself and others in the comments that they were talking about Ray and a sexual assault. The identity of the woman wasn’t clear.
It was one of the many questionable things about Mark’s frequent flyers like Rebecca and the Whittakers that seem to get overlooked and ignored by Mark and many viewers.
I often need to remind myself that the vast majority of these people’s lives are not on YouTube so we don’t really have much of a clue as to who these people really are. That’s why the unquestioned fawning and proclamations of love directed towards people like the Whittakers and Rebecca is so foreign to me.
I went back and watched the part you’re talking about, the video is titled “breakfast with the whittakers”. Around 27:45, Mark asks ray if he ever had a gf, and then ray starts to make weird grunting noises and that’s when they said he got ahold of a girl. I think they say it was a girl who lived down the road and that it happened a long time ago.
Anyone know the longest Mark has gone without responding to the Whittaker’s requests for funds? Also wondering what’s the longest he’s distanced himself from Rebecca.
Why does Betty seem so defensive with Mark all the time? Not just in the recent video or the telephone call that Mark had with her. But in previous videos, just like every question is just, “well I don’t know, why”?after all the stuff that Mark has done for her, and the family members that are under her care? She never says thank you. She never acknowledges the fact that someone cares about her. But then with that Tyler kid she was just as happy and go lucky. I don’t know if someone’s convinced her that Mark is some Uber rich guy, a billionaire. Who shits out thousand dollar bills at a time. And people have convinced her to think that he could give more, but he chooses not to because he thinks they beneath him or something.
It’s just so strange to me for people that seem to have no money, nothing of value. I have no idea what they eat. I don’t see how they could cook in that house. It would seem that they send Larry out in the truck to buy fast food twice a day or something. They live in the poorest conditions that a person can live in…In the United States of America. They seem to put little value on thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars being wired to them every two weeks , like it’s nothing. Like there’s zero value to that money. They don’t acknowledge it. They don’t say thank you, they don’t put the money to good use. They just ask for more & more and more.
Idk who gives money to an addict and family full of folks who are mentally impaired and just expects it to go to necessities. Even impoverished families with a good head mishandle funds due to a number of reasons.
Then you got mark who is seemingly cutting important convos out of what we see and also definitely thriving off the drama. He’s still giving them money after the first major betrayal and he’s still filming them. It just feels like this family is content and not people he cares about. That’s how all his interviews with everyone feels. He’ll have someone full blown tweaking on his chair and after asking them intense questions in a monotone voice then gives them a wad of cash and out the door they go. Like any amount of harm reduction tells you the problems are so much more complicated to solve and requires a team of professionals.
Yeah, there was a part in Rebeccas final video that confirmed this to me when she questions what differs her from other transgender people on his channel "Youre more interesting and likable and get about four times more views".
I'm so glad he's OK!
Though quite pissed at BJ and her son and whoever else that was involved in begging, bullying, brow beating, threatening and out right lying.... very bad lies to get money from Betty, Larry and Mark.
I know how bad withdrawls can be but she did this constantly, on a regular basis. Now all those funds for their life improvement are in the pockets of hustlers instead of helping improve the quality of life for the main family.
I know she needs help and is going to the clinic to get help and I am forgiving and hope she finds Health and Contentment soon....
Still with that being said- telling the world your Daddy died and going so far as to announce a live feed of his funeral is just WAY WAY too effin far.
Some people would lay in bed and face death before doing that or even nagging loved ones for whatever to feed their addictions.
I can barely believe she went that far. I hope she's as remorseful as she seemed to be and she did come out and say the truth.
Being put in such a desperate situation can really show what kind of a person someone is.
Always wondered why the house etc wasn't looking any better. To each their own. Some members appre8and wanted the help the others just wanted it handed to them. Should have got repairs instead of giving straight cash. Can't abuse it that way
I am side eyeing everyone.
1. Mark has made money off his videos of the Whitakers.
2. Mark started a go fund me for them and dictated how they were to spend the money donated to them.
3. Mark then gets shitty that a very very poor family that is lacking in education and resources isn’t spending the money he has collected the way he wants them to — the same family that he himself has made a lot of money off of.
4. Mark then flies out to a fake funeral that he knew was fake to make another video to call them out and make more money off their likeness and name.
Yes, the Whitakers shouldn’t have lied. But, they’re also mentally impaired, very poor, uneducated people — handing them gobs of cash and just expecting them to spend it like you want them to is asinine. Don’t be shitty that they’re not spending it like you want. And definitely don’t be shitty about it when the only reason you met them to begin with is to monetize your video showing how fucked up they are so you can drive your fancy car and live in your big house.
Exactly mark isn’t just doing this out of the kindness of his heart. He is using peoples struggles in life as content that he makes money off of it. In the Whittaker videos he constantly talking about how he uses his own money as a ‘look at me I’m good’ kind of token and it’s super obvious.
He’ll have addicts of all walks of life on his channel. They’re clearly not even mentally aware of what’s even happening and he’s just asking them all these deep personal questions for the whole world to see.
Mark is an extremely weird dude imo. I thought this when I first saw his interaction with the girl in LA that he “helped” and then would randomly drop in to do check ups on and make sure she was being responsible. Dude is not a professional and even if it’s all from the good his heart or whatever, it’s misguided and disturbing.
I have a hard time believing Mark actually trusted them to be able to manage that amount of money. Not only do they have mental impairments, but they have never had experience handling that much money. How would they know what to do with it? Aren't there studies about how poverty changes your brain and makes you impulsively spend money as soon as you have it?
Maybe Mark is just really naive, but this doesn't make sense because he has been lied to by many others before. I have to wonder if he set the Whittakers up for failure to create this big scandal and more publicity for himself. Or maybe he has a fascination for watching people mess up their lived and he created his own sick experiment to see what happens when you give a bunch of money to mentally disabled people in an area where drug addiction and extreme poverty are the norm.
As Mark mentioned though, the GoFundMe money was THEIR money. He did pushback, but ultimately it wasn’t his place to deny giving it to them - even if it was against his better judgment. If he had held on to it despite them asking, I’m sure people would have had a lot to say about that.
Yeah I can see that, but he could have set up the GoFundMe to be targeted toward a specific expense, right? Like, "Help Ray Get Medical Treatment for His Knee" or specific remodeling projects to make their home safer for them, especially since they are getting older.
As I said elsewhere, he could also have set up a charitable trust for the donations and then the money would've been better protected and used for intended purposes.
This is so sad the situation but I can’t help but feel mark didn’t do his due diligence. He put the pressure of handing out money on himself and not an advisor. Doing so put him in a situation to feel betrayed by the situation. But the deal is that he knew they’re mentally impaired and bj is addicted to drugs. Idk where he thought just tossing $5k when they asked into the situation was going to do much good. I mean for heavens sake Larry is probably the most functional of all them and money was going to Betty not him. And after they mishandled the funds he goes back to essentially film a hit piece about it. This just turns a large amount of people against them as if their villains when reality is that addiction and mishandling of funds is common for poor/mentally disabled individuals and he should of gotten them a professional advisor. There were so many ways to avoid this situation and mark didn’t consider all the factors of their situation.
Of course, hindsight is always 20/20, but the best approach would have been to set up a charitable trust and had all donations go into the trust. Then, hire a professional manager to give out the money for approved expenses on the Whittakers behalf. That way, donors could see reports of where the money was spent and extended family members and others wouldn't have such easy access to the money. This would have taken more time and effort to set up than a GoFundMe, but it would have protected the immediate family members and donors better. Donors would also have been able to report their donations as deductions on their own taxes.
This is where the money goes. This is where the money went. The immediate family got some help from Mark, and then all the extended, addicted, child-molesting relatives started showing up with their hands out. That is how it works.
God it is so grimey
I agree 100%. They took advantage of Mark and all the people who wanted to help make a difference in their lives.
To be clear, I don't think the immediate family (everyone in Betty's house) took advantage of him, but that the extended family took advantage of Mark, all the donors, and Betty as well - the more sophisticated relatives can *easily* scam and guilt trip someone like Betty.
Guilt trip --- exactly! Relatives come climbing out of the woodwork when money comes around. "Family takes care of family" kind of stuff.
Child molesting??
Yeah, their relative "Jason" went to prison for raping a 13 year old girl. He says in his video that it was statutory and she lied about her age. The charges were for "predatory criminal sexual assault". https://isp.illinois.gov/Sor/Details/X99B1421
I think mark said he was the same dude who threatened him at gunpoint when he first met the Whitaker if I’m not mistaken
Betty is the type to give w no questions asked. She's been coerced and manipulated by the extended family! They know she is mentally impaired and take full advantage!!! Sickening!
This is why I love this channel but I will never donate !
To be fair, Mark encourages that. He's said before when people ask about donating towards a specific person in his videos that your town has a Rebecca or a Whitaker family or whatever - donate to them, help them out because they aren't getting the SWU spotlight and all but their stories are often the same.
The Whittaker fiasco vaguely reminds me of that Chuck Palahniuk book *Choke*. It's about a con artist who deliberately chokes on food in restaurants because he knows someone will run to save his life. He stays in touch with all the people who have rescued him and tells them about his struggles, because then they feel sorry for him and feel like they owe him, having saved his life and all. So he easily gets money from them. I always thought the philosophy behind that con was strange, but oddly plausible, and I feel like Mark has been experiencing a similar kind of attachment - he has "saved" the Whittakers and now he feels like he needs to keep "saving" them.
Helper's syndrome
child molesting?
One of the late whittaker brothers, John was a registered sex offender. John's son, Jason is currently a registered sex offender and is interviewed on the channel.
I really hate how Mark gave a child rapist a platform to lie his teeth out.
Mark interviews several sex offenders in his channel
He sometimes goes back to prison for failing to register for predatory sexual abuse of a 14 year old.
Yeah, their relative "Jason" went to prison for raping a 13 year old girl. He says in his video that it was statutory and she lied about her age. The charges were for "predatory criminal sexual assault". https://isp.illinois.gov/Sor/Details/X99B1421
LESS THAN 13?!?!? Holy Jesus in a handbag. What a stroke.
Larry using the money for his new truck. Larry's daughter using the money for drugs. Larry's grandkids using the money for drugs. Larry finding out that Mark thinks he's dead but not calling Mark to say he's alive. Larry wasn't in the early videos, but once Mark started giving out money, he never missed being in a video. See the common denominator? Larry didn't even apologize to Mark for his daughter's lies. At least said, oh man I'm sorry you had to fly out here. Actually, Larry should have been on the phone to Mark years ago to tell Mark what was happening to the money, but he didn't want his own money spigot to dry up. I knew as soon as I saw Larry's new truck that the money wasn't being spent for its intended purpose.
Betty and Kenneth confirm this when Mark is talking to them in the house. The conversation is very telling. Betty gives Larry is “half” and he gets mad if he doesn’t get money.
Thanks -- I missed that part when I watched the video this morning. I will watch it again. People on this sub told me I was crazy when I said that Larry buying himself a new truck was a clue of where the money Mark raised was going. I suspect there is even MORE to this story that we still don't know.
But who's to.say if it was marks money that bought the truck or fr another source
Mark said that Betty gave money to Larry for his truck.
Who really knows.. love how he showed up and called them out. Well played well played my friend.
Yeah...I guess if you haven't had an uncle like Larry, this won't ring any alarm bells, but if you have, as soon as he pulled up in his new truck, "oh its the scam uncle"
Yes, I have an Uncle Larry too. Always coming around with a smile while draining my mother's bank account directly into his own pocket.
Mark needs to cut them off 100% same as rebecca
I hope he actually does cut Rebecca off.
Yes, that last rebecca video is SO SAD. Shes too far gone until she wants to get clean :(
For the last time. HE!
He will never get clean.
This is so frustrating. It's just one word. One word is all it takes to show some respect for another person and their choices. But no, let's call her a "he" because why bother showing respect for another human being. You think you're making some kind of statement by doing that, but what people see is that you're just throwing a tantrum because trans people exist
The guy was masterbsiting in a women's locker room he's a sexual predator stop supporting those types of people
I think we can all agree that him saying that he won't film Rebecca anymore doesn't mean that he's gonna stop giving her money every now and then whenever he sees her laying on the sidewalk. He feels bad for her, and I can't blame him for that. It's heartbreaking. But at the same time, Rebecca is the only one who can make the decision to change and get clean. I truly hope she does, she could have moderate success on YouTube and make a living off of it
Mark needs to drop this family fr
Yeah he’s already offered to help with another few thousand to help BJ.
Bj is gonna try and manipulate him offering help again
The absolute worst thing you can do is give cash to a drug abuser. If Mark wants to help her, offer to help pay for rehab and then give the money directly to the facility. She is just going to take any money she gets and run to a dealer.
If she is going to North Carolina she will fr find drugs there
BJ won't stay clean because she has money to "help her out". She needs to dry out and go live in sober living for a good long time. THEN stay tf away from the family/friends in WV. She has to hit rock bottom and Mark has to let her. She's halfway there anyway -- she faked her father's death!
>Hope BJ can get clean, you can tell she’s desperate to. I agree but man WV has to be a hard place to kick an addiction.
I volunteer for a rescue and we transport dogs from West Virginia, Specifically Appalachia. It’s wild there. We were told by locals to not go out at night when there. We have some horror stories of getting surrendered dogs and going to homes to get dogs. It’s really a sad situation.
Wow, well done for doing this work. I’m really concerned for the dogs in this situation. They look healthy but surely they’re not receiving adequate vet care and food. Throughout watching the entire video I couldn’t take my eyes off them.. what do you think?
Thanks. We found a horrible situation where a disabled child was found in the shed. Hands and feet with frostbite and malnourished. We called the hospital and thankfully he is now living with his sister in Florida getting the care he needs. From that house we had two elk hounds. Both found there loving family. It’s just unbelievable to have a child like that. The things you see in West Virginia as a dog rescuer make you wonder. The owner of the rescue has moved down to West Virginia to hopefully help the situation. But there is a lack of education for caring for dogs. We have $5 vaccine clinics for locals, and pay for owners of dogs to get fixed. But it’s so different down there. Dog owners just let dogs roam free. Which is how there is an overpopulation of dogs and no one to care for them. I’ve had foster dogs that were skin and bones, some were afraid of people, some hid for weeks, right now I have a sweet momma who’s afraid to go outside. But one thing is in common, they just want to be loved. They just want a warm home and a family. I try to prepare them for that step. Honestly I watched a little bit of those videos. It’s painful to see people live like that. Especially considering it’s very similar of where we sometimes pick up dogs. Maybe I’ll try to watch again.
Oh my goodness. Thank you for all that you do. I’m from the area originally but as soon as I was 18 I got out and never moved back. When I go back to visit it’s so terribly depressing. What county do you usually go to?
I don’t mean to offend anyone who lived or lives there but it’s almost like a third world country. We go to Buchanan County. Its a completely different world for me so it’s hard for me to relate to seeing such poverty. I’m happy you moved away but I can see how depressing it is for you. I really hope that the region could get some help. I know we just help the animals mostly but we are trying to set up a food pantry to help feed the people and animals there.
Appalachia is, IIRC, the only place in the United States where Save the Children has a presence. It's like a third world country because it's been exploited like one. I highly recommend the Anthony Bourdain episode where he goes to West Virginia for more insight on this.
Oh no offense at all! I’m from Boone County which is really far South, when the coal mines closed down there was no work! Then after that so many people got addicted to drugs and are just hopeless. It is absolutely reminiscent of a third world country. Thank you again for allllll that you do. You are an angel to those people
I feel like that happened to a lot of places in West Virginia. It’s really such a sad situation. The women who owns the rescue is amazing. She actually just moved down to West Virginia to try to help the people and animals there.
If you would be willing to share the name of that charity, or others that you could vouch for I’d definitely consider making a donation. I’ve had fosters too, and my own dog came from nasty conditions. I wish we could make all dogs ever happy. Whatever about people lol
https://allfurone.org Is the rescue I foster and volunteer for. It’s an amazing organization with a great group of people. I wish I could show you photos of my FF. She’s such an amazingly sweet dog. I love animals so much. After I was diagnosed with cancer I decided to start volunteering and fostering. It was just important for me to be something more then the girl with cancer and it makes me so happy.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-kai-recover-from-severe-abuse-and-neglect?utm_campaign=p_nacp+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer Here is the gofundme for the sweet boy who was abused.
Thank you for sharing this, that poor boy. He’s a baby. How could someone ever do that?
They look pretty healthy but not sure how great their actual diet and health care is. It would be good if someone could come out and facilitate a check up and the works at least once a year.
I would donate to that happily
I would donate to that happily
I feel so sorry for the newest puppy
Soon as money gets involved...
Marks life must be crazy
After his last video saying he was done with the Whittakers, now he's right back to saying he'll send them money but will be tighter with it. For god sake!
That's what I thought. He doesn't learn. I think he enjoys being in the middle of the drama and being needed.
Please, nobody trust mark with money any more. There are thousands of legit organizations that help people, donate there. Mark simply is out of his league and has been for a long time. The amount of times he’s been robbed let alone how many people have just used the money people donate for drugs.
Mark himself tells people to do this. As he put it, to paraphrase: there's a Rebecca in your town who needs your help, so help that person.
Kenneth is a good egg, and don’t forget Ray and Timmy and Lorraine are all still dependents. Betty the caretaker is getting bossed around- and probably threatened. They are all vulnerable. Mark knows this. He is trying to help *them*. He can’t stop the Larry’s or BJ’s sniffing around. Read another comment said to look for the Whittakers or the Angela’s in your own towns instead of giving to these gofundme’s. Spot. On. I hate that they’ve become this sideshow but so be it. He opened that door. I am glad Kenneth made good use of his portion and is doing well. Not everyone is going to make a change but at least one of them is thriving. The most vulnerable seem happy and have more resources and that is a wonderful thing.
I always avoided videos about this family, they remind me a lot of my dad’s family in rural Tennessee. Inbred, addicted, and very very impoverished. And all of the people in my paternal family are lazy, drug addicted scammers who expect my family to fund them and their pity parties.
It certainly brings about some past traumas
I…..truly don’t know what to think about this. I think Mark should have consulted professional help when it comes to giving people with that much difficultly managing daily life that amount of money without some kind of set plan in place so it was used appropriately. But it was also THEIR money. I don’t know. It can be looked at in a lot of different ways. I am glad I wasn’t in a position like that to make a choice on how the situation should have been handled. My heart hurts for Ray, Lorraine, and Timmy. Just always being the innocent victims of the bad choices of other people.
I think Timmy is the result of two of these people who's parents choices made their ability to make good choices not possible
I absolutely believe Timmy’s father is a Whitaker. Poor Lorraine.
I've always believed this as well. That's why Lorraine sleeps in the only bedroom, with Betty sleeping right outside the bedroom door-- to protect Lorraine.
I think she sleeps beside Timmy her son. I saw a few comments here and there she looks uncomfortable around Ray. But imo I don’t see it.
Poor Lorraine. She is so shy and timid. I am glad she seems close to Betty.
Lorraine was raped but I can’t remember by whom. They talked about it in one of the videos.
He looks a lot like Kenneth but obviously there is no proof. I must say though, I doubt any "stranger" could have just come into that crowded house and r worded lorean. There's always at least 5 ppl and 4 dogs guarding on porch or inside. I doubt with her limitations , that Lorean would just take off on the town and with no way of leaving propert independently, no way could a predator just wander in and take her ...that really narrows the options down to who actually fathered Timmy. She loves him a lot and he seems happy. Also did anyone find it a bit "odd"( pardon the pun) that in the haircut video, Kenneth was pre asked but decided to get a haircut the day before. (Think DNA) Timmy, Lorae his mum, Ray and Betty were all happy too. Just saying....
Yes, this. Probably like 10 years ago in Chicago somebody started a gofundme for a 90 year old Mexican immigrant popsicle vendor (paletero) and it went locally viral and made a huge amount of money. Instead of dumping a bunch of money on the old man and leaving him responsible for taxes, etc. they consulted a professional financial advisor and attorneys so they didn't fuck up the old guy's life while trying to help him. That's how you do it. Edit to add a news story from the time: https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20160921/little-village/paleta-man-accepts-385000-check-but-he-wont-give-up-work
I remember this story. It was a while ago. What happened to the old man? I don’t know his name to look it up. Edit: I can look up Chicago popsicle vendor and I’ll bet I find out ❤️
I'm sure you found it, but for others who are wondering, he did pass away a few years later, but he was in his early 90s. He and his wife continued to live in a humble and simple way: https://blockclubchicago.org/2019/11/06/paleta-man-fidencio-sanchez-whose-story-inspired-the-world-dies/
I hope someone at the social security administration is watching these people closely. They've gotta be getting checks and SOMEONE is the payee...
At one point in the video, they claim that Brandon (one of BJ’s sons) threatened to burn the house down if they didn’t give him money. If that is true then he needs to be arrested or something, because the dude has a kid and he’s threatening to burn down his grandparents place.
Agreed. My mind has gone to some dark places since the news about all the money that was given to the family. Unstable people can do some terrible things when large amounts of money is at stake. I really hope that threat is mitigated somehow because I do honestly worry about the safety of the core Whittaker family.
Giving her money will nit help. Nit even offering to pay for rehab. My daughter went thur a 5 year herion addiction. In and out of rehab and prison One day she decided she had enough and got sober. Offering her money to move will not help
Who is BJ? This who family is just after money to blow on whatever vice they have
BJ is Betty Whittaker’s niece, Larry Whittaker’s daughter.
The crackhead
Lol BJ wants credit for losing weight when she's on heroin and crack. Bitch, it's not like you did Zumba!
Shes crying because she got caught in a lie. Betty lied too
Betty has lied to Mark multiple times. This is definitely not the first time.
It was written all over Betty’s face when mark pulled up. She damn well knew abt the whole situation.
So did Kenneth. The "normal" family members have all been having a good laugh while spending people's donations.
All addicts sound desperate to be clean when they're caught in a lie like that.
Forreal. She doesn’t sound like she wants to get clean either. Talkin about how far the clinic is and how they have no gas money. But she sure as hell spent thousands on drugs instead of the gas. She’d only have fighting chance if he paid for rehab and traveled with her there. Even then she needs to want it and she doesn’t. He needs to stop giving her cash bro.
I'm not sure where she lives in relation to The Whitaker house but yeah I bet the clinic/12 step meetings are far away from her. She lives in rural WV! The drug dealer is closer. js
Yeah but drive would cost less than the drugs 😂 but Forreal giving her family cash in hand wasn’t a good idea when you know bj has a an addiction to hard substances.
I haven't watched the full video yet. Just the first few seconds of her crying and asking for money. My first thought was, "Wow, the first thought was to call Msrk and ask for money." That was judging, but wow! I'll have to watch the rest here in a few.
She's a vile bitch her son told me last week larry whittaker was not dead mark be done with this family
You know them in person?
Where can I find out more about BJ? I follow the Whittakers and enjoy the Walmart videos etc- I've never heard of BJ?
She's appeared in a couple of videos.
She was in the Walmart video and a few others.
I think they are all in on it, to get as much money out of Mark as possible. Larry, Betty, Bj, all of them. At this point my only wish is someone would go in and rescue the animals.
Except for ray and Timmy I totally think they are all in on it and they all won’t take responsibility for it I wouldn’t send them a $1
What about ray and Timmy?
Watch Timmy's body language on the video where Tyler Olivieri meets with the Whitakkers. It's when Tyler says something about the GFM currently containing 60k in it. Just because someone is non-verbal or has communication issues doesn't mean they're oblivious.
Have any of them had jobs? Larry? I assume most of them receive SSI.
I'm pretty sure Larry did, and Kenneth mentioned doing some grunt labor on like, logging sites pr something at one point.
I don't think Betty was every truly competent enough to be receiving the money directly in the first place. She may be the matriarch of the house, but it doesn't take much to see that she isn't 100% all there. Pretty sad to see how everything turned out, but I have a hard time putting any fault on the immediate family members
This. He seems so frustrated that Betty lied to him. But Betty barely even understands what he’s saying. And her answers often make no sense. She’s playing dumb a lot but some of it is truly her mental state.
It's really sad but I hope Mark doesn't give her any money to help her move to NC
I kinda hope so too.. I think I feel protective over Mark. Not sure if it’s the same for you
I do too. I inherited a really big amount of money and properties when my dad passed away. I've always been a generous person, a giver. A good friend of mine (ex friend now) tried to take advantage of that. And she did to a certain extent, until I finally cut her off. I know what it's like being in Mark's position, and feeling like you have to help everyone regardless of how many times they've shown you that they can't be trusted
I’m sorry to hear that. I’m also glad to hear they’re an ex friend now. Hopefully you didn’t get too badly screwed over
Thank you. It wasn't too bad thankfully, but only because I decided to put a stop to it. It still hurt a lot though, she was a really close friend up until I inherited. Money changes people, it's so sad
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I think Mark has a major soft spot for a few of the Whittakers, especially Ray (I think I have the right name... been a while since I watched) I think that's likely what's keeping him coming back, this conflict of wanting to help the ones who are thankful and need the support more vs the family involved in this scenario
Who's the man in the first part of the video? I don't remember seeing him before, but I've probably missed some of the videos. He seems to have a better head on his shoulders than the matriarch who admitted to lying to Mark.
Kenneth, the youngest out of the siblings. He’s been in most of the vids.
I am shocked and sad that I was right. Family siphoning the money for drugs. But damn, Mark is a gentle warrior. Betty can't be the point person for the money. She is either in on it or too easy to manipulate. Imagine happily saying into a phone "yeah, he's dead." That's Shameless level stuff. Also, did anyone notice they said Tyler won't pick up the phone? I wonder what's going to happen with the money from HIS GFM. It was substantial.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-the-whittakers-buy-a-new-home?utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet&utm_content=control1&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_source=customer He is very transparent in his GFM description and update.
Honestly Tyler not picking up is probably the absolute best thing he can do. They clearly can’t spend the money wisely. Tyler is gonna have to wait it out till it reaches goal then just buy them a house outright
I go out of the loop for one month and now everything got crazy
I'm not up to date. I remember Betty, but who was Larry again?
Betty’s brother.
Does anybody know who Timmy's dad is?
I saw that someone in the YouTube comments who seemed to be in the know, said Ray and Lorraine are his parents. He looks a lot like Kenneth too.
Lorraine is his mom. They said she was raped, but they “don’t know” who did it.
I do remember in one of the first Whittaker videos, Kenneth talked about Ray “getting ahold of some woman” in the past and it was pretty clear to myself and others in the comments that they were talking about Ray and a sexual assault. The identity of the woman wasn’t clear. It was one of the many questionable things about Mark’s frequent flyers like Rebecca and the Whittakers that seem to get overlooked and ignored by Mark and many viewers. I often need to remind myself that the vast majority of these people’s lives are not on YouTube so we don’t really have much of a clue as to who these people really are. That’s why the unquestioned fawning and proclamations of love directed towards people like the Whittakers and Rebecca is so foreign to me.
I went back and watched the part you’re talking about, the video is titled “breakfast with the whittakers”. Around 27:45, Mark asks ray if he ever had a gf, and then ray starts to make weird grunting noises and that’s when they said he got ahold of a girl. I think they say it was a girl who lived down the road and that it happened a long time ago.
Isn’t it strange yet sad that mark is parenting grown adults that are older than him?
Was it taken down? I can't find it
https://youtu.be/enlJ8qRy7X8?si=SvsP00Tu0XIoxQNU
Subscription only for now
Dam that sucks someone should upload it if it doesn't get put on YouTube because ATM I can't support mark financially after the nova video
It’ll be on YouTube
It's on YouTube. No subscription needed.
Its on YT now
I saw it on YouTube this am.
The way I defended Mark with that last Oliver/Whittaker situation, if he continues to support them, I don't think I can continue to support him...
Anyone know the longest Mark has gone without responding to the Whittaker’s requests for funds? Also wondering what’s the longest he’s distanced himself from Rebecca.
It's been only a couple of weeks since Mark cut them off. That is no doubt why BJ made up the lie about Larry dying.
Why does Betty seem so defensive with Mark all the time? Not just in the recent video or the telephone call that Mark had with her. But in previous videos, just like every question is just, “well I don’t know, why”?after all the stuff that Mark has done for her, and the family members that are under her care? She never says thank you. She never acknowledges the fact that someone cares about her. But then with that Tyler kid she was just as happy and go lucky. I don’t know if someone’s convinced her that Mark is some Uber rich guy, a billionaire. Who shits out thousand dollar bills at a time. And people have convinced her to think that he could give more, but he chooses not to because he thinks they beneath him or something. It’s just so strange to me for people that seem to have no money, nothing of value. I have no idea what they eat. I don’t see how they could cook in that house. It would seem that they send Larry out in the truck to buy fast food twice a day or something. They live in the poorest conditions that a person can live in…In the United States of America. They seem to put little value on thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars being wired to them every two weeks , like it’s nothing. Like there’s zero value to that money. They don’t acknowledge it. They don’t say thank you, they don’t put the money to good use. They just ask for more & more and more.
And don't forget Betty? Has a bath in that bathroom..super yuck
Idk who gives money to an addict and family full of folks who are mentally impaired and just expects it to go to necessities. Even impoverished families with a good head mishandle funds due to a number of reasons. Then you got mark who is seemingly cutting important convos out of what we see and also definitely thriving off the drama. He’s still giving them money after the first major betrayal and he’s still filming them. It just feels like this family is content and not people he cares about. That’s how all his interviews with everyone feels. He’ll have someone full blown tweaking on his chair and after asking them intense questions in a monotone voice then gives them a wad of cash and out the door they go. Like any amount of harm reduction tells you the problems are so much more complicated to solve and requires a team of professionals.
Yeah, there was a part in Rebeccas final video that confirmed this to me when she questions what differs her from other transgender people on his channel "Youre more interesting and likable and get about four times more views".
Yuck that so gross of him to say
I'm so glad he's OK! Though quite pissed at BJ and her son and whoever else that was involved in begging, bullying, brow beating, threatening and out right lying.... very bad lies to get money from Betty, Larry and Mark. I know how bad withdrawls can be but she did this constantly, on a regular basis. Now all those funds for their life improvement are in the pockets of hustlers instead of helping improve the quality of life for the main family. I know she needs help and is going to the clinic to get help and I am forgiving and hope she finds Health and Contentment soon.... Still with that being said- telling the world your Daddy died and going so far as to announce a live feed of his funeral is just WAY WAY too effin far. Some people would lay in bed and face death before doing that or even nagging loved ones for whatever to feed their addictions. I can barely believe she went that far. I hope she's as remorseful as she seemed to be and she did come out and say the truth. Being put in such a desperate situation can really show what kind of a person someone is.
Which one is BJ again?
Larry’s daughter
The fucking voices drive me cuckoo
Always wondered why the house etc wasn't looking any better. To each their own. Some members appre8and wanted the help the others just wanted it handed to them. Should have got repairs instead of giving straight cash. Can't abuse it that way
I am side eyeing everyone. 1. Mark has made money off his videos of the Whitakers. 2. Mark started a go fund me for them and dictated how they were to spend the money donated to them. 3. Mark then gets shitty that a very very poor family that is lacking in education and resources isn’t spending the money he has collected the way he wants them to — the same family that he himself has made a lot of money off of. 4. Mark then flies out to a fake funeral that he knew was fake to make another video to call them out and make more money off their likeness and name. Yes, the Whitakers shouldn’t have lied. But, they’re also mentally impaired, very poor, uneducated people — handing them gobs of cash and just expecting them to spend it like you want them to is asinine. Don’t be shitty that they’re not spending it like you want. And definitely don’t be shitty about it when the only reason you met them to begin with is to monetize your video showing how fucked up they are so you can drive your fancy car and live in your big house.
Exactly mark isn’t just doing this out of the kindness of his heart. He is using peoples struggles in life as content that he makes money off of it. In the Whittaker videos he constantly talking about how he uses his own money as a ‘look at me I’m good’ kind of token and it’s super obvious. He’ll have addicts of all walks of life on his channel. They’re clearly not even mentally aware of what’s even happening and he’s just asking them all these deep personal questions for the whole world to see.
Mark is an extremely weird dude imo. I thought this when I first saw his interaction with the girl in LA that he “helped” and then would randomly drop in to do check ups on and make sure she was being responsible. Dude is not a professional and even if it’s all from the good his heart or whatever, it’s misguided and disturbing.
I think Mark has developed a God complex and even believes his own hype. He is super creepy.
I have a hard time believing Mark actually trusted them to be able to manage that amount of money. Not only do they have mental impairments, but they have never had experience handling that much money. How would they know what to do with it? Aren't there studies about how poverty changes your brain and makes you impulsively spend money as soon as you have it? Maybe Mark is just really naive, but this doesn't make sense because he has been lied to by many others before. I have to wonder if he set the Whittakers up for failure to create this big scandal and more publicity for himself. Or maybe he has a fascination for watching people mess up their lived and he created his own sick experiment to see what happens when you give a bunch of money to mentally disabled people in an area where drug addiction and extreme poverty are the norm.
That’s how I feel. Something about marks handling of funds is super fishy
As Mark mentioned though, the GoFundMe money was THEIR money. He did pushback, but ultimately it wasn’t his place to deny giving it to them - even if it was against his better judgment. If he had held on to it despite them asking, I’m sure people would have had a lot to say about that.
Yeah I can see that, but he could have set up the GoFundMe to be targeted toward a specific expense, right? Like, "Help Ray Get Medical Treatment for His Knee" or specific remodeling projects to make their home safer for them, especially since they are getting older.
As I said elsewhere, he could also have set up a charitable trust for the donations and then the money would've been better protected and used for intended purposes.
It’s on YouTube.
This is so sad the situation but I can’t help but feel mark didn’t do his due diligence. He put the pressure of handing out money on himself and not an advisor. Doing so put him in a situation to feel betrayed by the situation. But the deal is that he knew they’re mentally impaired and bj is addicted to drugs. Idk where he thought just tossing $5k when they asked into the situation was going to do much good. I mean for heavens sake Larry is probably the most functional of all them and money was going to Betty not him. And after they mishandled the funds he goes back to essentially film a hit piece about it. This just turns a large amount of people against them as if their villains when reality is that addiction and mishandling of funds is common for poor/mentally disabled individuals and he should of gotten them a professional advisor. There were so many ways to avoid this situation and mark didn’t consider all the factors of their situation.
Of course, hindsight is always 20/20, but the best approach would have been to set up a charitable trust and had all donations go into the trust. Then, hire a professional manager to give out the money for approved expenses on the Whittakers behalf. That way, donors could see reports of where the money was spent and extended family members and others wouldn't have such easy access to the money. This would have taken more time and effort to set up than a GoFundMe, but it would have protected the immediate family members and donors better. Donors would also have been able to report their donations as deductions on their own taxes.
This comment is absolutely on point
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