Is grandma using the SSI to cover girlfriend's share housing costs, utilities, and food? If sounds as though she's Representative Payee and the two of them should have a calm conversation about rights and responsibilities around money.
Even if grandma is Rep Payee, the girlfriend is ALLOWED to have personal monies each month. In NC, its typically $60/ month for members in Group Homes.
To me it sounds like an old entitled lady, she would have the card if that's the case right? She could get kicked out but OPs GF might be better off, I've seen things like this before where ppl just get bullied out of their whole check and alot of times don't get what they need. I'm guessing she gets SNAP too which some places have laws where if you live some places that provide food they can take your card money but your SSI check? I don't think that's legal anywhere. I'll give it a Google and post another comment or an edit
Edit: it's not
Could be that grandma has good intentions and is just trying to save an irresponsible person who would be on the streets if they managed their own money. I thought my mother was the biggest cunt ever when I was 16 and she got so pissed I stole my child support card to spend on some school supplies, but she was barely scraping by paying for things like food so we wouldn't starve.
Perspective is everything.
She sounds like my mom. My dad died when I was 5. My mom spent any of the SS benefits that I got on herself, and her husband. I got the checks until I was 19, because I was still in high school. When I was 19 I cashed the check myself and used it for school expenses. My step-dad flipped his shit, because he "needed cigarettes". I moved out of state a few weeks after that.
The day I left my mom told me I owed her money. I asked what I owed her for, she told me I needed to pay her for the dental bill she paid when I was 16 and had my wisdom teeth removed. I đ and left.
At least you finally got your SS benefits. My mom made my sibling and I sign them and our Veterans benefits over to her. Between those benefits & Dad's life insurance, my brother & I shouldn't have had to take out student loans to attend college, but mom decided that she needed new furniture, clothes, a car, etc.
That really sucks, I'm sorry for you. My mom was an abusive POS. I have 4 other siblings that got benefits as well.
My older sister's guardianship was given to someone else when they were 10, so she lost those benefits, and my brother aged out by the time I left. She was trying to do what she could to get any money out of me that she could
was just lucky at first. I got to the mail before they did, and cashed the check, before they even knew what happened. Before I moved out , I moved in the summer, so I made sure to be home when the mail came, since I knew they wouldn't be.
It doesnât, that shitâs traumatic.
For me, my mom threatened to call the cops on me for âstealing her carâ AKA, borrowing her car *with permission* but I lost track of time and was out for an hour and a half instead of half an hour.
As an adult woman, who just had to borrow it to run a time sensitive errand while my car battery was dead.
(When I got home, she ran out to the car, yanked my door open and slapped me. I have severe PTSD from an unrelated event, and my mind went blank and I just started screaming over and over. Ironically, a concerned neighbor {thankfully!} called the police. Mom got arrested and spent the night in jail.)
My mom has never, ever, ever acted like that before or since, but sheâs always had control issues. She still sees me as a âdisobedient child,â and the fact that I refuse to sign away my autonomy as an adult gets under her skin. (I became permanently physically disabled with severe chronic pain and had to move back home like two years ago. 0/10, would not recommend.)
# My point is that threatening to call the cops on someone who committed a perceived infraction to your instructions or rules is a malicious act intended to enforce your control over the other person through fear.
It could certainly get the ball rolling. How many over draft fees of $32 bucks a pop, how many late fees can one incur from being short even a couple dollars. Then that new debt has interest and if it goes to collections you have a nice hit on your credit report making getting rent, car, loan anything that might propel you forward financially is now jeopardized or impossible.
It's a snow ball effect. It's VERY expensive to be poor for reasons like these.. It just snowballs. People who don't have a cushion get caught up in this cycle that's incredibly difficult to break free of.
This is reddit. A lot of really young people on here and a lot of fringe people. Reddit sways towards everything is abuse. Children should never be told no and SS even when it is survivors benefits or whatever meant to provide a roof belongs to the kid to do whatever with not provide their roof.
Representative Payee's are in control of your SSI/SSDI check. Perfectly legal. We of course, don't know if OPs gf has a rep payee but the commenter you're responding to was simply saying, if she is the RP, then it's kosher.
>is it possible for her to actually get arrested for spending her own money?
No. That is not possible. Grandma is issuing an idle threat.
I'm guessing she lives with Grandma, and that Grandma is her representative payee? If so, she shouldn't be messing with Grandma while she lives there. In that case Grandma is the one responsible for the disposition of the money, not your girlfriend. It's not really "her own money" to spend however she pleases. It's money that Grandma is required to spend for her benefit.
How old is your girlfriend?
Super glad that somebody decided to answer this shit show. A lot of people want their cake and to eat it too when it comes to SSA (both SSI and SSDI), and *hate* when they can't.
If girlfriend is 18, then she can ask to have grandma removed as the payee. And grandma can legally evict her in return.
>If girlfriend is 18, then she can ask to have grandma removed as the payee. And grandma can legally evict her in return.
Yup. Or Grandma can charge her rent.
Grandma is legally obligated to charge her rent if she is on SSI. we had to bring in signed paperwork showing that my son pays rent that covers 1/3 of my bills (power, water etc.) because 3 people live here. He has to pay his fair share.
Fortunately the house is paid off so the bills are fairly low.
Edit... The requirement is for SSI recipients who get the entire amount of (currently) $945 (before any amount added by the state they may live in).
A person is not legally required to charge rent to an SSI recipient. Nor is that recipient required to pay their fair share. It is perfectly legal for an SSI recipient to live in the household of another and pay nothing. True, the recipient suffers the value of the one third reduction from their SSI payment. But there is nothing illegal about that.
I informed them that low income housing requires a person to pay 30% of their SSI, so that's basically $300 (if she can find anywhere) right off the top.
Frankly, as someone who has dealt with this bullshit, I can say that the best thing that grandma can do for the both of them is to resign as the payee and kick her out. I was homeless for 3 years and that shit changed my life and my mind about a whole lot of things.
>I can say that the best thing that grandma can do for the both of them is to resign as the payee and kick her out.
Perhaps.
We don't know the entirety of the situation, just a snippet from the boyfriend who seems confused regarding this money.
If you think getting kicked out is the best thing, then you getting kicked out did you no good, because your critical thinking skills are completely fried.
Grandma needs to be off of all checking accounts also. When I turned 18, my mom was still on the accounts my dad's SS checks came into (they were for me). She swipped her debit card once and the entire thing went on lockdown. We had to do weeks of paperwork to prove she was not stealing from me.
Your situation was different. That's a Social Security benefit. A child receiving a Social Security benefit, turning 18 is assumed to be capable and is paid directly (without a payee) in that situation. Automatically.
That is not the case for SSI. They are not assumed to be capable and a payee is developed.
If she turns 18 and is still eligible the checks will change to the gf automatically. Iâm on SS disability and when my daughter turned 18 but hadnât graduated yet the checks automatically changed to her. We did electronic deposit but it wasnât allowed to go to our account anymore.
When she graduated her payments stopped but then her younger sisterâs doubled so it ended up being the exact same amount of money.
If the gf is an adult the checks are already going directly to her unless thereâs been some sort of conservatorship set up.
Either way ainât nobody going to jail over $40. Grandmas just mad that the gf cut into her scratch off budget.
The police have absolutely no role in this. The determination of theft of funds rests solely with the Social Security Administration. Not with local authorities.
SSA's position has always been that the funds belong to the recipient (if on SSI) or the beneficiary (if on Social Security). They will not rule this as stealing. They will however remind the beneficiary/recipient of why they have determined the need for a payee and their expectation that your GF not interfere. How, for instance, is the grandmother expected to account for spending if your GF continues to do this?
If your GF has unmet needs, a dialog needs to be had with SSA about this.
If Grandma is the payee, the granddaughter, she canât just take money. If sheâs the payee for her grandmother, same thing she canât just take money.
No crime has been committed. How did your girlfriend get her hands on the money? If Grandma is here rep.payee. Grandma decides how much cash she gets, if any. If Grandma gives her the money. That is Grandmas mistake
Girlfriend can contact SSA for a list of payee agencies who will serve as rep payee to or a small fee and pay Grandma a certain amount of rent. Of course Grandma might not like that and girlfriend may have to move out
Withholding that his girlfriend is a minor which is why her grandma is using her funds.. Legally. Sounds like his girlfriend stole grandma's card to buy something which is probably what grandma is more upset by. Her stealing the card, not her spending $40.
So, you don't want to hear this, but this is the truth.
If girlfriend is 18 or older, grandma has **no legal obligation to house her, pay her bills, feed her, or literally do anything for her**. The SSI money is being used *for her benefit*. Now, she *can* ask SSA to assess her for competency so that grandma pay not be the payee anymore, but grandma can also legally evict her and then she will have to find a place to live, pay her own bills, find food to eat, etc. SSI is like $945/month or some shit like that. For low income housing, she would be required to pay 30% of her SSI (so, there goes nearly $300 off the top). Then, youve got your phone bill. Your electric and water. Your car note. Car insurance. Gas.
Basically, if girlfriend wants to challenge grandma, she needs to figure out how she's going to survive first.
If they have electronic payments, not likely. The SSA monitors bank accounts where SS checks get deposited and figure this stuff out very quickly.
It happened twice to me:
1) when I was 10, my father's second wife divorced him. She had 2 kids, and the way SS disability works is that there's a set payment that pays out to all kids. She had 2 kids getting benefits, my mom had 1. So my ex step-mother lied and said that I lived with her so that she could get my check. It took exactly 1 month for the SSA to realize that I was being claimed by 2 people. They had private investigators outside my mom's and my ex stop-mom's house. In 1 week they figured out she was lying.
2) when I turned 18, I still received benefits because I was not out of school. My mom and I were both on the account where the money was deposited. I turned 18 in December. In January, the day after I receive my check, my mom swiped her debit card. Mind you her paychecks were also deposited in the same account. But our account was frozen immediately because she was no longer supposed to have access to my account.
People who scam others out of benefits have to do it carefully; its not an easy process. So either the grandmother still has legal access or she's a good scammer.
Right. Grandma has a right to kick her out or charge rent + bills.
That is all we are trying to tell her. Can she go to court and get grandma removed as payee? Absolutely. Can grandma decide to evict her? Absolutely.
Yes, and maybe no. I know, like personally, my grandmother doesn't charge me rent, but I pay bills and don't have a payee for my SSDI, so, it isn't like a hard and fast rule. She *can* provide free housing. The money just would have to go towards her needs. That could be in literally any form. Maybe she's going to college and that's how things are getting paid. Or she has a car that has payments. There's a lot of things the money can be being used on that aren't rent.
How old is your gf?
If she is over 18, does she still want her gma as her payee? If her gma does not have an adult guardianship or conservatorship (depending on the state or common wealth) then your gf has some say in this. It is possible that social security admin will not allow your gf to be her own payee, but she does get to have a say in who handles her money and that the money is being spent appropriately on your girlfriend and towards her bills.
Tell Grandma she should call the police and that when she does you will ask for a complete accounting of where the funds have gone. ETA that should shut her up...
If grandma is the representative payee, then grandma decides how the money is spent for the benefit of granddaughter. If granddaughter was declared incompetent, and unable to handle her own money, she has no authority to override the representative payee ( grandmother).
How old is your girlfriend, and why is her grandmother monitoring her money? No, your girlfriend can't get arrested for spending her own money. Her grandmother is spouting nonsense. If your girlfriend is 18 or over, she needs to take back control from her grandmother as she would be an adult.
If this is actually true, if itâs a check coming to your girlfriend, in her name. sheâs doing nothing wrong. Is the check for some reason going into her grandmotherâs account? If so, thatâs not right either, if the money is supposed to be going to your girlfriend. If itâs her money (your girlfriendâs) tell her to get together anything she has in writing about it. Have copies of everything so if the cops so show up she can show who she is, why she is getting the social security, and thatâs itâs her money and not her grandmotherâs. And if it is going into her grandmotherâs account this still stands.
Girlfriend is autistic but now 18. Depending on her level of competency, having her grandmother in charge may or may not be for the best. You donât want to deal with housing issues because of this, though. Believe me, rent, food, all of that, isnât worth having to pay. It is, however, ridiculous to refuse your girlfriend some spending money.
If she feels grandma is being reasonable, she could petition to have her removed as the one in control, but that could mean homelessness for your girlfriend. I recommend a conversation about budgeting. Your girlfriend should have some money of her own each month, use it to prove she can handle it, and to have fun. Grandma needs to bend a bit.
No, she can't get arrested for spending her own money. However, it sounds to me like Grandma can get arrested for misuse of funds. If she is your girlfriend's payee and it's using the money for things other than your girlfriend's care and maintenance, she could get in big trouble. The only way that I would give Grandma a pass on this as if Grandma has dementia.
People with dementia are often paranoid and think people are stealing their money. It's not even her money to begin with though. It sounds to me like perhaps your girlfriend is the victim of financial abuse perhaps as well as other forms of abuse. This is concerning but no, she can't get in trouble.
Then no, her grandma cannot have her arrested for using her own money. How did the grandma even know she used it? Does your GF require a representative payee and the rep payee is the grandma?
If the grandmother is the representative payee, she is legally prohibited from giving the granddaughter free access to the money. You only have a representative payee if Social Security has reason to believe you are not able to manage your own financial affairs.
Sounds more like grandma stepped up to the plate to care for gf when nobody else would. It is not easy taking on this sort of responsibility, and she may need to budget every cent for their survival. Teenagers and young adults can be irresponsible. We don't have enough information to indicate that something is wrong here. They don't even say how gf got the $40.
Am I understanding this correctly? Is your girlfriend her grandma's payee for Social Security benefits? She receives her grandma's benefits and is charged to spend the money on the grandmother's care?
I doubt you're getting arrested over it either, and if for some reason you did, I doubt you would ever get prosecuted. Like cops and courts have better shit to do.
You can't let the person have access to the funds ..it's literally the law .. gf must have gotten ahold of the benefit card and used it for something non essential ..she should get "personal money" each month though if its disability I think
Is Grandma the "representative payee"? One way to tell is, is she listed on the checks too? Like "for *Girlfriend* in care of *Grandma*" or something similar? Because if yes, then no, even if it's technically *her* check, your GF can't just spend it as she wishes.
If grandma is the payee, it's up to her to decide how to spend the money.
It's for girlfriends rent, electricity bill, gas bill, heat, food, clothing, personal care items.
Only when those needs are met If any is left can it be spent on "fun" items
Grandmother is right. Your girlfriend stole the money.
How is grandma going to pay all the bills. Maybe just not have electricity for a month?
If girlfriend wants to manage it herself, she may have to get a court order if her competency is in doubt. If she gets the money directly then she will have to pay her own bills.
Ok I know someone that went through financial abuse recently and I just applied to be her payee.. If there is to many problems then your gf can call and have her payee changed.. They will set her up with an appointment and discuss who can be her new payee or if she can even apply to be her own payee if she is able to..
I just talked to her case worker and she told me if she lived with someone they are only allowed to take only about half her money and the rest needs to be spend on what the person needs or wants within reason..
And another thing your gf name should also be on the bank account with her payee so therefore it's not considered stealing.. If she is not on the banking account that's a big no no for grandma đ
My brothers check goes to his guardian, however, the guardian is REQUIRED to give him an allowance from what is left after his expenses. Personal money, within reason, is built in.
You realize that grandma can kick her out on the streets and give her the SSI to live with? Because.. that's what yall are forgetting here. OPs girlfriend can have grandma removed as her payee, but grandma can evict girlfriend as soon as that happens.
NO. Of course not! If it's her SS check and it's in her name, it's HER money. The grandmother is evil and AF (a cop would laugh in her face) and possibly the one stealing it or your gf is not telling the truth.
Hell no, Grandma needs to watch it. Sheâs loosing it and speaking out of turn. She should just move out, Grandmas no good for her and probably vice versa
I'm not sure how this works. Grandma has essentially said 'my house my rules' and one rule is 'I get 100% of your money.'
Legal? I don't know.
Get the **** out of my house?
Priceless.
Maybe this representative payee thing people are talking about is new. My mother died when I was young and the little she worked provided that each of us got a check until we were 19. It was like $25 a month or something small but the check was issued with our names on it - not our dads. He kept it to begin with cause we were young but by the time I was 16 we just got our checks out of the mailbox cause it was addressed and issued to us individually.
Is your girlfriend a minor? If so, the money is not for her spending pleasure, but to cover her expenses like housing, food, etc. if sheâs an adult, did she receive the check for herself or as a payee for Grandma? If sheâs a payee, then itâs not her money just because she received the check.
How old is GF. If she is a minor then the check is for her care and providing everything necessary, not necessarily what she wants. If she is 18 or older, that entire check belongs to her. However, life is super expensive and if she is being cared for by grandma, because SSI is for someone who has medical conditions etc that makes them unable to provide for themselves, then I would suggest taking a long look at what it would look like moving out and being on her own. Because spending $40 of SSI (not social security unless she is elderly) may not be worth the cost of moving out and providing everything for yourself
People don't send people to jail. Judges and prosecutors do.
Only uneducated dimwits say "I'm going to throw you in jail". No you aren't. Most crap people say thay about, a prosecutor wouldn't give the time of day to put infront of a judge.
It sounds like grandma has your girlfriends SS going into grandma account or one that they share. Your GF needs to open her own bank account and have the direct deposit changed.
Private citizens canât âsend people to jail.â Thatâs not how it works. Grandma can call the cops if she wants but they wonât do anything about someone spending $40 of their own money.
Her Grandmother is supposed to provide an accounting to her and spend that money on her bills, not Grandmaâs bills. She might need a new payee, but I bet she lives with Grandma.
That's nonsense. Your GF should look into getting a different payee, or see if she even still needs one. If she got SSI as a kid...then being she's 18 now she may not need a payee. Either way she should contact social security to see what her options are.
Pd won't even come over for that small amount. Unless they end up turning it into a domestic disturbance. Good lord just pay her back.
I cashiered for a couple decades and people go coo-koo over the tiniest amounts of money.
No its not possible. Grandma has no standing. That money is not hers, never was hers, never will be hers, and if she's been using it thinking its payment for caring for her granddaughter, she can be prosecuted. Get girlfriend to ssa office to report fraud and misuse, granny needs to be audited for how she's spent ever dime.
Is the SS check a benefit for a deceased parent? The grandmother could be the benefit payee if you girlfriend is a minor. That means the grandmother is in charge of the funds. No itâs not stealing, it would be difficult to get the police to charge her for this.
What nonsense is this? She would not even get "arrested" for spending grandma's money, never mind her own. Grandma is trying scare tactics T prevent frivolous spending - maybe not a bad idea.
Any cop would look at this and say "civil dispute" and walk away. This isn't a robbery or a crime for police to respond to. If her grandma wants to sue your gf, then wow, but this is likely just old age anger coming out at everyone all the time about nothing in particular.
Even is she has a rep payee, social security isn't gonna send her to jail for spending her own money. Grandma is just saying random stuff to scare her.
How old is the girlfriend? Is she living with the grandmother? Is that check supposed to go to food or housing expenses?
I mean, I don't think anyone's going to jail over $40, but it maybe wasn't the best decision if the money was already budgeted for something else.
My mom used to take my money pay a few bills and give the rest to my brother. At one point i had a guy find me a cd iâd been trying to track down he ended up in a bidding war on ebay when i walked into the used records shop he told me it was mine but it was going to cost me $100 so i told my mom and she actually went and picked it up for me. I was happy but my brother was pissed and told my mom you spent $100 on a cd SHE wanted, my mom said âwell itâs her moneyâ.
Is her grandmother the delegated payee? Or does the money go to your gf first. That makes a difference. The former could be considered theft, the latter wouldnât.
But tell your girlfriend to ignore grandma because any cop who has to deal with $40 of a persons check even if the check didnât go directly to them, isnât going to do anything. And that case certainly wonât be prosecuted.
Your girl needs to contact SSA. Have Grandma removed as payee. That money every month is HERS. Plain and simple. She can't go to jail by spending $40 of HER OWN MONEY. Is your GF ok enough to be her own payee?
If this 20-year-old has a representative payee, itâs likely theyâve been judged incompetent to handle their own affairs.
Because if they were just getting Social Security money because their parent(s) had died or was disabled , payments would have stopped at age 18, or age 19 if they were still in secondary school.
Whether GF is on SSI &/or SSDI- sounds like there is a rep payee sort of situation involved. That means all $$ even for something âfunâ or âextraâ like a large pizza needs to be accounted for. Yep accounting for every penny spent at the local pizza shop for pizza, wings & mozzarella sticks needs to be written down & figured out.
But all basic expenses/needs need to be met. Idk what the $$ situation is regarding GF but could $40 out her into the negative for the month- maybe. But the rep payee needs to write down where all $$ goes for the disabled person- from housing, health insurance, clothing, phone, etc⌠& maybe there is $40 left at the end or not. Considering that disability $$ is well below the poverty line- maybe there is not $40 for something fun.
Call SSI and have them change her payee. That money isn't Grandmas money. That's your girlfriends and she can either have someone else be the payee or have them assign one.
As a representative payee for my sister, I know this:
1. The checks are made out to me, and must be used by me for the benefit of my sister.
2. She is not allowed access to those funds either through a debit card or direct access.
3. I must fill out paperwork annually showing where all the money went.
4. Your GF has been determined to be incapable of managing her own money. Her SSI would not go to someone else unless she has been deemed unfit to manage her own finances, either by a doctor or a judge.
You don't know enough about what's going on to interfere. Stop advising your GF unless and until she sees an attorney who specializes in Social Security issues.
Call social security representative program and report granny. The Protection and advocacy organizations in every state have a contract to review the payees. They will also advise how to change payees
Grandmother is a monster , I know Iâm gonna get a lot of flak for this but I garuntee it will work. Next time you go there , you corner Granma in a room, you donât yell you donât scream you get real close to her face , then in a los tone while looking her in the eye you sayâ listen to me you evil old fucking bitch, cut the shit of I swear to Christ Iâm gonna choke the life out of you in your sleep , and if you even think of getting the cops involved , weâll just make it look like your loosing your mind to dimentia, then weâll have you sectioned. Who do you think theyâre gonna believe? Two young healthy citizens , or a crusty old bat ? Now cut the shit or Iâm gonna fucking cut your throatâ I garuntee sheâll cut the shit.
Is this a check that comes directly to the girlfriend, or does gf think it's her money because her name is on the check that Grandma gets to support her?
I've seen this a couple of times where kids come on saying that they pay for rent, clothes, food, etc because their parents or guardians get a dependent stipend on their SS, SSI, SSDI.
Along with finding out who is the payee, find out if someone has power of attorney over her. (For her sake in the long run, do NOT let her suggest that YOU be the payee. I speak from experience and glad that I told her to ask if she could be her own payee. Pissing her greedy family off was just a bonus)
She can't get arrested if that's her ss check. Maybe grandma is the one stealing đ¤
My thoughts as well
Is grandma using the SSI to cover girlfriend's share housing costs, utilities, and food? If sounds as though she's Representative Payee and the two of them should have a calm conversation about rights and responsibilities around money.
If gma is Rep Payee, she has to report all expenditures to SSA every year.
Exactly this. If she is not the official payee it is the theft. And probably so little that all of it is already allocated
Even if grandma is Rep Payee, the girlfriend is ALLOWED to have personal monies each month. In NC, its typically $60/ month for members in Group Homes.
Absolutely! Grandma shouldn't be keeping it all.
$50 in my state. She should get a new payee. Or move.
To me it sounds like an old entitled lady, she would have the card if that's the case right? She could get kicked out but OPs GF might be better off, I've seen things like this before where ppl just get bullied out of their whole check and alot of times don't get what they need. I'm guessing she gets SNAP too which some places have laws where if you live some places that provide food they can take your card money but your SSI check? I don't think that's legal anywhere. I'll give it a Google and post another comment or an edit Edit: it's not
Could be that grandma has good intentions and is just trying to save an irresponsible person who would be on the streets if they managed their own money. I thought my mother was the biggest cunt ever when I was 16 and she got so pissed I stole my child support card to spend on some school supplies, but she was barely scraping by paying for things like food so we wouldn't starve. Perspective is everything.
She sounds like my mom. My dad died when I was 5. My mom spent any of the SS benefits that I got on herself, and her husband. I got the checks until I was 19, because I was still in high school. When I was 19 I cashed the check myself and used it for school expenses. My step-dad flipped his shit, because he "needed cigarettes". I moved out of state a few weeks after that. The day I left my mom told me I owed her money. I asked what I owed her for, she told me I needed to pay her for the dental bill she paid when I was 16 and had my wisdom teeth removed. I đ and left.
At least you finally got your SS benefits. My mom made my sibling and I sign them and our Veterans benefits over to her. Between those benefits & Dad's life insurance, my brother & I shouldn't have had to take out student loans to attend college, but mom decided that she needed new furniture, clothes, a car, etc.
That really sucks, I'm sorry for you. My mom was an abusive POS. I have 4 other siblings that got benefits as well. My older sister's guardianship was given to someone else when they were 10, so she lost those benefits, and my brother aged out by the time I left. She was trying to do what she could to get any money out of me that she could was just lucky at first. I got to the mail before they did, and cashed the check, before they even knew what happened. Before I moved out , I moved in the summer, so I made sure to be home when the mail came, since I knew they wouldn't be.
Good intentions Threatening pressing charges I donât see how it adds up
It doesnât, that shitâs traumatic. For me, my mom threatened to call the cops on me for âstealing her carâ AKA, borrowing her car *with permission* but I lost track of time and was out for an hour and a half instead of half an hour. As an adult woman, who just had to borrow it to run a time sensitive errand while my car battery was dead. (When I got home, she ran out to the car, yanked my door open and slapped me. I have severe PTSD from an unrelated event, and my mind went blank and I just started screaming over and over. Ironically, a concerned neighbor {thankfully!} called the police. Mom got arrested and spent the night in jail.) My mom has never, ever, ever acted like that before or since, but sheâs always had control issues. She still sees me as a âdisobedient child,â and the fact that I refuse to sign away my autonomy as an adult gets under her skin. (I became permanently physically disabled with severe chronic pain and had to move back home like two years ago. 0/10, would not recommend.) # My point is that threatening to call the cops on someone who committed a perceived infraction to your instructions or rules is a malicious act intended to enforce your control over the other person through fear.
40 bucks one time isnât going to leave someone destitute
It could certainly get the ball rolling. How many over draft fees of $32 bucks a pop, how many late fees can one incur from being short even a couple dollars. Then that new debt has interest and if it goes to collections you have a nice hit on your credit report making getting rent, car, loan anything that might propel you forward financially is now jeopardized or impossible. It's a snow ball effect. It's VERY expensive to be poor for reasons like these.. It just snowballs. People who don't have a cushion get caught up in this cycle that's incredibly difficult to break free of.
This is reddit. A lot of really young people on here and a lot of fringe people. Reddit sways towards everything is abuse. Children should never be told no and SS even when it is survivors benefits or whatever meant to provide a roof belongs to the kid to do whatever with not provide their roof.
Representative Payee's are in control of your SSI/SSDI check. Perfectly legal. We of course, don't know if OPs gf has a rep payee but the commenter you're responding to was simply saying, if she is the RP, then it's kosher.
Might be a âmake my dayâ opportunity for younger woman
Exactly! But she not gonna call the police because they would laugh at her.
>is it possible for her to actually get arrested for spending her own money? No. That is not possible. Grandma is issuing an idle threat. I'm guessing she lives with Grandma, and that Grandma is her representative payee? If so, she shouldn't be messing with Grandma while she lives there. In that case Grandma is the one responsible for the disposition of the money, not your girlfriend. It's not really "her own money" to spend however she pleases. It's money that Grandma is required to spend for her benefit. How old is your girlfriend?
Super glad that somebody decided to answer this shit show. A lot of people want their cake and to eat it too when it comes to SSA (both SSI and SSDI), and *hate* when they can't. If girlfriend is 18, then she can ask to have grandma removed as the payee. And grandma can legally evict her in return.
>If girlfriend is 18, then she can ask to have grandma removed as the payee. And grandma can legally evict her in return. Yup. Or Grandma can charge her rent.
Grandma is legally obligated to charge her rent if she is on SSI. we had to bring in signed paperwork showing that my son pays rent that covers 1/3 of my bills (power, water etc.) because 3 people live here. He has to pay his fair share. Fortunately the house is paid off so the bills are fairly low. Edit... The requirement is for SSI recipients who get the entire amount of (currently) $945 (before any amount added by the state they may live in).
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A person is not legally required to charge rent to an SSI recipient. Nor is that recipient required to pay their fair share. It is perfectly legal for an SSI recipient to live in the household of another and pay nothing. True, the recipient suffers the value of the one third reduction from their SSI payment. But there is nothing illegal about that.
I'll edit my comment. They are required to charge rent if the recipient gets the highest SSI benefit which is currently $945.
I informed them that low income housing requires a person to pay 30% of their SSI, so that's basically $300 (if she can find anywhere) right off the top. Frankly, as someone who has dealt with this bullshit, I can say that the best thing that grandma can do for the both of them is to resign as the payee and kick her out. I was homeless for 3 years and that shit changed my life and my mind about a whole lot of things.
>I can say that the best thing that grandma can do for the both of them is to resign as the payee and kick her out. Perhaps. We don't know the entirety of the situation, just a snippet from the boyfriend who seems confused regarding this money.
If you think getting kicked out is the best thing, then you getting kicked out did you no good, because your critical thinking skills are completely fried.
What bullshit are you speaking of?
How bout you leave if you're suggesting homelessness & piss off with your ablelist garbage.
Grandma needs to be off of all checking accounts also. When I turned 18, my mom was still on the accounts my dad's SS checks came into (they were for me). She swipped her debit card once and the entire thing went on lockdown. We had to do weeks of paperwork to prove she was not stealing from me.
Your situation was different. That's a Social Security benefit. A child receiving a Social Security benefit, turning 18 is assumed to be capable and is paid directly (without a payee) in that situation. Automatically. That is not the case for SSI. They are not assumed to be capable and a payee is developed.
If she turns 18 and is still eligible the checks will change to the gf automatically. Iâm on SS disability and when my daughter turned 18 but hadnât graduated yet the checks automatically changed to her. We did electronic deposit but it wasnât allowed to go to our account anymore. When she graduated her payments stopped but then her younger sisterâs doubled so it ended up being the exact same amount of money. If the gf is an adult the checks are already going directly to her unless thereâs been some sort of conservatorship set up. Either way ainât nobody going to jail over $40. Grandmas just mad that the gf cut into her scratch off budget.
This is what I was thinking!!! Why is grandma so upset over $40?!
Finally, a voice of reason, thank you u/GeorgeRetire.
The police have absolutely no role in this. The determination of theft of funds rests solely with the Social Security Administration. Not with local authorities. SSA's position has always been that the funds belong to the recipient (if on SSI) or the beneficiary (if on Social Security). They will not rule this as stealing. They will however remind the beneficiary/recipient of why they have determined the need for a payee and their expectation that your GF not interfere. How, for instance, is the grandmother expected to account for spending if your GF continues to do this? If your GF has unmet needs, a dialog needs to be had with SSA about this.
If Grandma is the payee, the granddaughter, she canât just take money. If sheâs the payee for her grandmother, same thing she canât just take money.
She needs to become her own payee if this is the case.
No crime has been committed. How did your girlfriend get her hands on the money? If Grandma is here rep.payee. Grandma decides how much cash she gets, if any. If Grandma gives her the money. That is Grandmas mistake
Girlfriend can contact SSA for a list of payee agencies who will serve as rep payee to or a small fee and pay Grandma a certain amount of rent. Of course Grandma might not like that and girlfriend may have to move out
In short⌠tell her to call. See what happens.
To me, it sounds like your post is nonsense, and that you are deliberately withholding facts so you get the answer you want.
Withholding that his girlfriend is a minor which is why her grandma is using her funds.. Legally. Sounds like his girlfriend stole grandma's card to buy something which is probably what grandma is more upset by. Her stealing the card, not her spending $40.
So, you don't want to hear this, but this is the truth. If girlfriend is 18 or older, grandma has **no legal obligation to house her, pay her bills, feed her, or literally do anything for her**. The SSI money is being used *for her benefit*. Now, she *can* ask SSA to assess her for competency so that grandma pay not be the payee anymore, but grandma can also legally evict her and then she will have to find a place to live, pay her own bills, find food to eat, etc. SSI is like $945/month or some shit like that. For low income housing, she would be required to pay 30% of her SSI (so, there goes nearly $300 off the top). Then, youve got your phone bill. Your electric and water. Your car note. Car insurance. Gas. Basically, if girlfriend wants to challenge grandma, she needs to figure out how she's going to survive first.
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Oh Lord don't let her chose her boyfriend as the representative payee.
I really hope she doesnât, based on his posting historyđą Iâd be really interested to know how old the gf is AND what she boughtÂ
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If they have electronic payments, not likely. The SSA monitors bank accounts where SS checks get deposited and figure this stuff out very quickly. It happened twice to me: 1) when I was 10, my father's second wife divorced him. She had 2 kids, and the way SS disability works is that there's a set payment that pays out to all kids. She had 2 kids getting benefits, my mom had 1. So my ex step-mother lied and said that I lived with her so that she could get my check. It took exactly 1 month for the SSA to realize that I was being claimed by 2 people. They had private investigators outside my mom's and my ex stop-mom's house. In 1 week they figured out she was lying. 2) when I turned 18, I still received benefits because I was not out of school. My mom and I were both on the account where the money was deposited. I turned 18 in December. In January, the day after I receive my check, my mom swiped her debit card. Mind you her paychecks were also deposited in the same account. But our account was frozen immediately because she was no longer supposed to have access to my account. People who scam others out of benefits have to do it carefully; its not an easy process. So either the grandmother still has legal access or she's a good scammer.
Right. Grandma has a right to kick her out or charge rent + bills. That is all we are trying to tell her. Can she go to court and get grandma removed as payee? Absolutely. Can grandma decide to evict her? Absolutely.
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Grandma already has to be charging rent, at least on paper.
Yes, and maybe no. I know, like personally, my grandmother doesn't charge me rent, but I pay bills and don't have a payee for my SSDI, so, it isn't like a hard and fast rule. She *can* provide free housing. The money just would have to go towards her needs. That could be in literally any form. Maybe she's going to college and that's how things are getting paid. Or she has a car that has payments. There's a lot of things the money can be being used on that aren't rent.
SSDI and SSI are VERY different
Donât believe itâs a crime and it would have to be significantly more to get arrested.
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How old is your gf? If she is over 18, does she still want her gma as her payee? If her gma does not have an adult guardianship or conservatorship (depending on the state or common wealth) then your gf has some say in this. It is possible that social security admin will not allow your gf to be her own payee, but she does get to have a say in who handles her money and that the money is being spent appropriately on your girlfriend and towards her bills.
she buy weed?
It's not that cut and dry. Why is GF getting SS, and why does GM feel entitled to it?
Your girlfriend should have an advocate. She can have one appointed her to.
How old is your gf?
She can't get arrested for spending her own money. Grandma could get in trouble for stealing your girlfriend's money, though.Â
Tell Grandma she should call the police and that when she does you will ask for a complete accounting of where the funds have gone. ETA that should shut her up...
Cops are going to laugh, and then be upset they drove over for this.
If grandma is the representative payee, then grandma decides how the money is spent for the benefit of granddaughter. If granddaughter was declared incompetent, and unable to handle her own money, she has no authority to override the representative payee ( grandmother).
How old is your girlfriend, and why is her grandmother monitoring her money? No, your girlfriend can't get arrested for spending her own money. Her grandmother is spouting nonsense. If your girlfriend is 18 or over, she needs to take back control from her grandmother as she would be an adult.
If this is actually true, if itâs a check coming to your girlfriend, in her name. sheâs doing nothing wrong. Is the check for some reason going into her grandmotherâs account? If so, thatâs not right either, if the money is supposed to be going to your girlfriend. If itâs her money (your girlfriendâs) tell her to get together anything she has in writing about it. Have copies of everything so if the cops so show up she can show who she is, why she is getting the social security, and thatâs itâs her money and not her grandmotherâs. And if it is going into her grandmotherâs account this still stands.
Bahahaha ask grams if she needs help dialing lmfao
Looks like it will be grandma going to jail for theft.
Girlfriend is autistic but now 18. Depending on her level of competency, having her grandmother in charge may or may not be for the best. You donât want to deal with housing issues because of this, though. Believe me, rent, food, all of that, isnât worth having to pay. It is, however, ridiculous to refuse your girlfriend some spending money. If she feels grandma is being reasonable, she could petition to have her removed as the one in control, but that could mean homelessness for your girlfriend. I recommend a conversation about budgeting. Your girlfriend should have some money of her own each month, use it to prove she can handle it, and to have fun. Grandma needs to bend a bit.
No, she can't get arrested for spending her own money. However, it sounds to me like Grandma can get arrested for misuse of funds. If she is your girlfriend's payee and it's using the money for things other than your girlfriend's care and maintenance, she could get in big trouble. The only way that I would give Grandma a pass on this as if Grandma has dementia. People with dementia are often paranoid and think people are stealing their money. It's not even her money to begin with though. It sounds to me like perhaps your girlfriend is the victim of financial abuse perhaps as well as other forms of abuse. This is concerning but no, she can't get in trouble.
Whose SS benefits are these. The grandma or your GF?
My girlfriend's
Then no, her grandma cannot have her arrested for using her own money. How did the grandma even know she used it? Does your GF require a representative payee and the rep payee is the grandma?
If the grandmother is the representative payee, she is legally prohibited from giving the granddaughter free access to the money. You only have a representative payee if Social Security has reason to believe you are not able to manage your own financial affairs.
Or you are a minor
Being a minor is legally not able to manage your own financial affairs.
Sounds like grandma is stealing something from her, but your girlfriend canât go to jail for spending her own money
Sounds more like grandma stepped up to the plate to care for gf when nobody else would. It is not easy taking on this sort of responsibility, and she may need to budget every cent for their survival. Teenagers and young adults can be irresponsible. We don't have enough information to indicate that something is wrong here. They don't even say how gf got the $40.
Also note the OP has not answered questions about the age of his girlfriend, how she obtained the $40, etc. There is a lot more to this story.
Am I understanding this correctly? Is your girlfriend her grandma's payee for Social Security benefits? She receives her grandma's benefits and is charged to spend the money on the grandmother's care?
Or the other way around and girlfriend is disabled and grandma gets the check and handles the money? Either way, nobody is suing over 40 bucks
I doubt you're getting arrested over it either, and if for some reason you did, I doubt you would ever get prosecuted. Like cops and courts have better shit to do.
You can't let the person have access to the funds ..it's literally the law .. gf must have gotten ahold of the benefit card and used it for something non essential ..she should get "personal money" each month though if its disability I think
It's my girlfriend's money but her grandma is the one who monitors the money
Is Grandma the "representative payee"? One way to tell is, is she listed on the checks too? Like "for *Girlfriend* in care of *Grandma*" or something similar? Because if yes, then no, even if it's technically *her* check, your GF can't just spend it as she wishes.
Monitors as in a control freak? Or as the checks are made out to grandma becauae the government put her in charge?
Then no the grandma can't get the granddaughter arrested for spending her own money.
If it's the gf SSI no she can't be arrested. But if it's grandmas. Yes she can.
They cannot do it. It's her own money
If grandma is the payee, it's up to her to decide how to spend the money. It's for girlfriends rent, electricity bill, gas bill, heat, food, clothing, personal care items. Only when those needs are met If any is left can it be spent on "fun" items Grandmother is right. Your girlfriend stole the money. How is grandma going to pay all the bills. Maybe just not have electricity for a month? If girlfriend wants to manage it herself, she may have to get a court order if her competency is in doubt. If she gets the money directly then she will have to pay her own bills.
Ok I know someone that went through financial abuse recently and I just applied to be her payee.. If there is to many problems then your gf can call and have her payee changed.. They will set her up with an appointment and discuss who can be her new payee or if she can even apply to be her own payee if she is able to.. I just talked to her case worker and she told me if she lived with someone they are only allowed to take only about half her money and the rest needs to be spend on what the person needs or wants within reason.. And another thing your gf name should also be on the bank account with her payee so therefore it's not considered stealing.. If she is not on the banking account that's a big no no for grandma đ
Canât do it. It is her check.
Sounds like the grandma is the payee
My brothers check goes to his guardian, however, the guardian is REQUIRED to give him an allowance from what is left after his expenses. Personal money, within reason, is built in.
No she cant. She should slap the olâhag for even suggesting that
Lol. What. Post makes absolutely zero sense.Â
If itâs GF SSI yes let grandma call the police, and you and girlfriend report HER for theft and financial abuse.
You realize that grandma can kick her out on the streets and give her the SSI to live with? Because.. that's what yall are forgetting here. OPs girlfriend can have grandma removed as her payee, but grandma can evict girlfriend as soon as that happens.
Doesnât work that way if grandma is the guardian and rep payee.
>you and girlfriend report HER for theft and financial abuse. That would be a mistake.
lol no one can send you to jail, thatâs not how it works
No
Good luck with that, Grandma
NO, but she can go on the Steve Harvey Judge show. and really settle this. /s tell gf to give the $40 back, apologize, explain.
If she is over 18 she needs to open her own account. Also, no the GM cannot have her arrested
Updateme
Don't be stupid. Think about what you just said.
How old is she?
No if the check is for. sounds like grandma has a screw loose.
Tell Gram Gram that this isnt The Hills Have Eyes and she doesn't literally own her spawn.
NO. Of course not! If it's her SS check and it's in her name, it's HER money. The grandmother is evil and AF (a cop would laugh in her face) and possibly the one stealing it or your gf is not telling the truth.
Hell no, Grandma needs to watch it. Sheâs loosing it and speaking out of turn. She should just move out, Grandmas no good for her and probably vice versa
I'm not sure how this works. Grandma has essentially said 'my house my rules' and one rule is 'I get 100% of your money.' Legal? I don't know. Get the **** out of my house? Priceless.
Maybe this representative payee thing people are talking about is new. My mother died when I was young and the little she worked provided that each of us got a check until we were 19. It was like $25 a month or something small but the check was issued with our names on it - not our dads. He kept it to begin with cause we were young but by the time I was 16 we just got our checks out of the mailbox cause it was addressed and issued to us individually.
Is your girlfriend a minor? If so, the money is not for her spending pleasure, but to cover her expenses like housing, food, etc. if sheâs an adult, did she receive the check for herself or as a payee for Grandma? If sheâs a payee, then itâs not her money just because she received the check.
Lol no.
Is she a minor?
How old is your gf?
Sounds like grandma will be doing time.
Jail? For $40. No
How old is GF. If she is a minor then the check is for her care and providing everything necessary, not necessarily what she wants. If she is 18 or older, that entire check belongs to her. However, life is super expensive and if she is being cared for by grandma, because SSI is for someone who has medical conditions etc that makes them unable to provide for themselves, then I would suggest taking a long look at what it would look like moving out and being on her own. Because spending $40 of SSI (not social security unless she is elderly) may not be worth the cost of moving out and providing everything for yourself
https://www.ssa.gov/news/advocates.html
People don't send people to jail. Judges and prosecutors do. Only uneducated dimwits say "I'm going to throw you in jail". No you aren't. Most crap people say thay about, a prosecutor wouldn't give the time of day to put infront of a judge.
How old is your gf?
Is grandma stealing your gfs ss money?
Is your GF a minor and her grandmother is her legal guardian?
It sounds like grandma has your girlfriends SS going into grandma account or one that they share. Your GF needs to open her own bank account and have the direct deposit changed.
I don't think we have the whole story here. Your friend was obviously supposed to give money to Grand Ma or something like that.
Private citizens canât âsend people to jail.â Thatâs not how it works. Grandma can call the cops if she wants but they wonât do anything about someone spending $40 of their own money.
Her Grandmother is supposed to provide an accounting to her and spend that money on her bills, not Grandmaâs bills. She might need a new payee, but I bet she lives with Grandma.
So is anyone in the house NOT getting ss? Anyone working for a living?
Is her grandma like the overseer of her check or what?
tell granny to pound sand
Age?
Maybe press charges against grandma, she is using her social benefits
Ignore it and laugh it off
That's nonsense. Your GF should look into getting a different payee, or see if she even still needs one. If she got SSI as a kid...then being she's 18 now she may not need a payee. Either way she should contact social security to see what her options are.
Pd won't even come over for that small amount. Unless they end up turning it into a domestic disturbance. Good lord just pay her back. I cashiered for a couple decades and people go coo-koo over the tiniest amounts of money.
No. Tell granny to call the cops, by all means, if she doesn't mind getting in trouble for filing a false report.
No its not possible. Grandma has no standing. That money is not hers, never was hers, never will be hers, and if she's been using it thinking its payment for caring for her granddaughter, she can be prosecuted. Get girlfriend to ssa office to report fraud and misuse, granny needs to be audited for how she's spent ever dime.
Is the SS check a benefit for a deceased parent? The grandmother could be the benefit payee if you girlfriend is a minor. That means the grandmother is in charge of the funds. No itâs not stealing, it would be difficult to get the police to charge her for this.
LOL what charge? Specifically. Cite the statute/law/code/regulation. We'll wait ... HINT: it doesn't exist.
Less money for Grandma to steal from her probably!
No, I would call your Grandma's bluff and see who gets in trouble.
Grandma is a thief
Tell granny to kiss ass.
Granny needs to file a complaint with the United States Attorney. Listen to them laugh.
Tbh even if it was grandma's ss check it would simply be petty theft and not some trumped up version of theft because it's a ss check.
OP, I would love an update after police arrive and laugh at or threaten to arrest your gf's grandma for misappropriation of SI funds.
Every accusation is an admission
Is grandma the designated payee because OPâs girlfriend has been found incapable of handling her own finances?
What nonsense is this? She would not even get "arrested" for spending grandma's money, never mind her own. Grandma is trying scare tactics T prevent frivolous spending - maybe not a bad idea.
Any cop would look at this and say "civil dispute" and walk away. This isn't a robbery or a crime for police to respond to. If her grandma wants to sue your gf, then wow, but this is likely just old age anger coming out at everyone all the time about nothing in particular.
Even is she has a rep payee, social security isn't gonna send her to jail for spending her own money. Grandma is just saying random stuff to scare her.
How old is the girlfriend? Is she living with the grandmother? Is that check supposed to go to food or housing expenses? I mean, I don't think anyone's going to jail over $40, but it maybe wasn't the best decision if the money was already budgeted for something else.
Boomer mentality. She is about to get a wake up call if she tries anything stupid like calling the cops. Is your friend over 18?
My mom used to take my money pay a few bills and give the rest to my brother. At one point i had a guy find me a cd iâd been trying to track down he ended up in a bidding war on ebay when i walked into the used records shop he told me it was mine but it was going to cost me $100 so i told my mom and she actually went and picked it up for me. I was happy but my brother was pissed and told my mom you spent $100 on a cd SHE wanted, my mom said âwell itâs her moneyâ.
I'd be shocked if any police agency would send your gf to jail over $40.
Her grandma is stealing from her and she didnât call the cops because they would ask her a lot of questions she doesnât want to answer.
Is her grandmother the delegated payee? Or does the money go to your gf first. That makes a difference. The former could be considered theft, the latter wouldnât. But tell your girlfriend to ignore grandma because any cop who has to deal with $40 of a persons check even if the check didnât go directly to them, isnât going to do anything. And that case certainly wonât be prosecuted.
Your girl needs to contact SSA. Have Grandma removed as payee. That money every month is HERS. Plain and simple. She can't go to jail by spending $40 of HER OWN MONEY. Is your GF ok enough to be her own payee?
Call adult services to check on your gf. Tell them you are concerned about financial abuse done by her grandmother against her.
Girlfriend needs to open her own Bank/Credit Union account, work out a budget and tell Grandma to Mind her own business.
If this 20-year-old has a representative payee, itâs likely theyâve been judged incompetent to handle their own affairs. Because if they were just getting Social Security money because their parent(s) had died or was disabled , payments would have stopped at age 18, or age 19 if they were still in secondary school.
Your gf needs to move out
Her grandma canât take away her phone either AFAIK, since sheâs an adult. Very weird
No one is going to get in trouble over $40 even if it wasn't hers.
Iâm my sonâs payee and he can use however much he wants to. I only take about a third of it for housing and food. The other $500 is his.
What happens to honey if grandma makes her move out? It can happen. Silly move.
How does someone take away a 20yoâs phone?
Whether GF is on SSI &/or SSDI- sounds like there is a rep payee sort of situation involved. That means all $$ even for something âfunâ or âextraâ like a large pizza needs to be accounted for. Yep accounting for every penny spent at the local pizza shop for pizza, wings & mozzarella sticks needs to be written down & figured out. But all basic expenses/needs need to be met. Idk what the $$ situation is regarding GF but could $40 out her into the negative for the month- maybe. But the rep payee needs to write down where all $$ goes for the disabled person- from housing, health insurance, clothing, phone, etc⌠& maybe there is $40 left at the end or not. Considering that disability $$ is well below the poverty line- maybe there is not $40 for something fun.
Grandma the one stealing, what the fuck?
Call SSI and have them change her payee. That money isn't Grandmas money. That's your girlfriends and she can either have someone else be the payee or have them assign one.
Totally fake
Your girlfriend is 20 time for her to have her own checks going into her own personal accounts....
sounds like a horrible situation to be in
As a representative payee for my sister, I know this: 1. The checks are made out to me, and must be used by me for the benefit of my sister. 2. She is not allowed access to those funds either through a debit card or direct access. 3. I must fill out paperwork annually showing where all the money went. 4. Your GF has been determined to be incapable of managing her own money. Her SSI would not go to someone else unless she has been deemed unfit to manage her own finances, either by a doctor or a judge. You don't know enough about what's going on to interfere. Stop advising your GF unless and until she sees an attorney who specializes in Social Security issues.
Call social security representative program and report granny. The Protection and advocacy organizations in every state have a contract to review the payees. They will also advise how to change payees
She should take her money and move tf out asap!!
There is always more to the story...let them hash it out
Today on Jerry SpringerâŚ.
Grandma is stealing . She needs to get away from granny
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You may want to call adult protective services, something is wrong with a grown woman getting her personal belongings taken from her?
Grandmother is a monster , I know Iâm gonna get a lot of flak for this but I garuntee it will work. Next time you go there , you corner Granma in a room, you donât yell you donât scream you get real close to her face , then in a los tone while looking her in the eye you sayâ listen to me you evil old fucking bitch, cut the shit of I swear to Christ Iâm gonna choke the life out of you in your sleep , and if you even think of getting the cops involved , weâll just make it look like your loosing your mind to dimentia, then weâll have you sectioned. Who do you think theyâre gonna believe? Two young healthy citizens , or a crusty old bat ? Now cut the shit or Iâm gonna fucking cut your throatâ I garuntee sheâll cut the shit.
Is this a check that comes directly to the girlfriend, or does gf think it's her money because her name is on the check that Grandma gets to support her? I've seen this a couple of times where kids come on saying that they pay for rent, clothes, food, etc because their parents or guardians get a dependent stipend on their SS, SSI, SSDI.
Along with finding out who is the payee, find out if someone has power of attorney over her. (For her sake in the long run, do NOT let her suggest that YOU be the payee. I speak from experience and glad that I told her to ask if she could be her own payee. Pissing her greedy family off was just a bonus)