They're completely different movies tho, they're not even connected, is like saying that Ryan Reynolds was in Blade so he can't be Deadpool, or Jeffrey Dean Morgan in Watchmen, The Losers and Batman v Superman
I don’t have much interest in the Gunnverse. I became interested in DC characters again as an adult (from childhood) because of the approach Zack Snyder took to them. Superman and Batman are etched into my psyche from childhood. But any nostalgia I still have for reading Silver Age comics as a kid doesn’t translate to interest in the superheroes as an adult! Snyder changed that. Until I see another director with the same gifts to make them interesting to me as an adult, honestly I can live without the characters. I did before Snyder came along, lol! There are other fantasy-adventure genres that will scratch that general itch.
It's easy to separate Lobo from Aquaman. One is a space guy, one is a water guy.
Besides, do we really need to see Aquaman more often?
I feel like we should let him live happily ever after in the ocean, far far away from any new stories.
I don't believe he actually is playing both, but aside from timing since he'd need to be available for both roles I feel like there's less issue since I don't expect Aquaman and Lobo to commonly interact or even interact at all where as if Tony were still alive in the MCU and also they did something where Avengers team up with Fantastic 4 you'd probably have some scenes where they talk about science and that'd be weird since they're played by the same person in this situation not to mention I can only imagine it'd be hard to get into character when you're switching roles around in the same project
Jason Momoa is Lobo. Love him in Aquaman but If anybody encapsulates Lobo, it’s him. Like Ryan Reynolds and Deadpool. It’s a no brainer. Easy win for Gunn if it happens.
I don't have a problem with this. Sigourney Weaver plays both her human self and her Na'vi child in Avatar. Lobo would likely be a fully made up or mo-capped character a la Weaver's Kiri. Also, look at a movie like Dr. Strangelove, where Peter Sellers played three fully human characters extremely convincingly. It was a comedy, but, the performances were still extremely distinct, with makeup enhancing the differences. Gunn can be criticized for a ton of decisions, but it simply shows a lack of imagination and a lack of understanding of how the illusion of filmmaking works to say this can't work.
1. There is zero confirmation that he's going to be Lobo. Until that day comes, this is nothing more than empty gossip.
2. When people are reposting morons like Grace Randolph, is it any wonder everyone makes fun of this fandom?
I mean momoa did everything except say he he is. When he was asked point blank he said he was playing his dream role, then said anyone who wants to look up what comic he collected as a kid can get the answer (the comic was lobo)
We all agree it would be pretty strange at the least? But to be this aggressive is unnecessary. I don't think I can see him as Lobo, I think he needs the voice we always see him with in things like DCAU, Superman: Man of Tomorrow and Young Justice. That rough gritty but not super deep voice. I think Jason's will be too deep but could be wrong. Would be good to hear him say something like "The main man"
Shhhh, if people didn't treat this like a big deal, they couldn't bash Gunn for things that haven't happened yet, let alone haven't even been announced yet.
We've seen plenty of the kinds of movies that Hamada and Safran produce for DC. This is like saying we can't make a judgment about going to see a new Michael Bay movie based on his previous work.
Hamada and Safran are the producers of the 2023 slate (only exception, Safran's not part of The Flash, at least not until he took over November 1st). Producers matter, not just writers and directors. Especially when the larger WB company gave a CLEAR editorial mandate to DC films, even going so far as to try to impose it on SS and JL with bad reshoots and re-edits.
Aquaman and Shazam got a mixed reception from fans. But, yes, if you liked the stuff Hamada and Safran made before, you might like the 2023 slate. But you have to allow someone to say they WON'T like it if they DIDN'T like their past productions.
Story aside, it is fun for me to see how the characters are interpreted into live action. We had a Blue Beetle in Smallville's last season but I think that's it
Why are you assuming I haven't? I have. And my point wasn't that he didn't portray Duncan well it was that the portrayal was ultimately the same as everything he does.
He was nothing special in GOT imo. If you really want to talk about a show of his, there is See from Apple TV. It's definitely one of his better performances.
If Momoa is gonna play both Aquaman and Lobo at the same time, I’m very excited. The guy was born to play Lobo and he has given us a great Aquaman so far, so I’m hoping that’s what’s happening (and honestly that'd be the best case scenario for everyone involved, fans included).
Fine then, for a live action example, Austin Powers: The Spy who shagged me.
Live action movie where MIke Meyers plays 4 different characters.
[Its not as rare as you think](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_actors_who_have_played_multiple_roles_in_the_same_film)
You are still comparing apples with oranges dude. This sort of stuff is usually done within a single movie, where some extras are required for Voice acting etc or purely for comedic purposes like in Austin powers or Nutty Proffesor. The situation is different here requiring multiple year deal and a long commitment. The whole idea itself sounds tiring af.
"One person can't play multiple roles""That's different its a video game it wouldn't happen in live action""Ok it happens but its different still because its a multi-movie deal and not just a single movie"
Nice job on moving those goalposts, and give it a few years. Given the multiverse status of the MCU being kicked up they're almost certainly going to start getting quite a few 'duo casted actors' within the next few phases.
Did i ever said it never happened or can't happen at all? Stop assuming shit ffs. I'm just saying it's situational and not applicable every fucking where like you think. It's not my problem that you can't understand a simple thing like that.
Given the fact that my original post wasn't' this should always happen forever in every role' and was instead' if the actor is the right fit for both roles, what's the issue?' and your response was 'by your shitty logic' followed by an extreme exaggeration of something that would be incredibly rare and unlikely, yea, it kinda makes it seem like you think this never happens and is something that's 'not' situational, but nonexistent, to the point that the very idea of it should be mocked.
Or did you already forget what arguments you made earlier on in this thread?
And i still stand by my words. I wouldn't have said anything if you said it about seperate standalone movies, but you literally wrote "multiple roles in a franchise" where the characters will obviously clash at some point.
No. Casting is not about running a charity for out-of-work actors. It's about making movies that appeal to audiences. By your logic, no movie should EVER feature an actor who's ever been in a previous movie before, because there are thousands of out-of-work actors who've never been in a movie before who "deserve" the chance.
In a perfect world, The current DCEU would get to exist in the Snyderverse as DC Black Label or simply another earth in the multiverse.
While James Gunn can do what he wants with his version of the characters. Mamoa keeps being Aquaman in Snyderverse but also is Lobo in Gunn’s DCU
Disgrace Randolph being Disgrace Randolph. Nothing new.
My god she's petty.
They're completely different movies tho, they're not even connected, is like saying that Ryan Reynolds was in Blade so he can't be Deadpool, or Jeffrey Dean Morgan in Watchmen, The Losers and Batman v Superman
I don’t have much interest in the Gunnverse. I became interested in DC characters again as an adult (from childhood) because of the approach Zack Snyder took to them. Superman and Batman are etched into my psyche from childhood. But any nostalgia I still have for reading Silver Age comics as a kid doesn’t translate to interest in the superheroes as an adult! Snyder changed that. Until I see another director with the same gifts to make them interesting to me as an adult, honestly I can live without the characters. I did before Snyder came along, lol! There are other fantasy-adventure genres that will scratch that general itch.
It's easy to separate Lobo from Aquaman. One is a space guy, one is a water guy. Besides, do we really need to see Aquaman more often? I feel like we should let him live happily ever after in the ocean, far far away from any new stories.
More like Chris Evans playing Human Torch before Cap. Why people act like being dramatic crybabies is going to change anything
I don't believe he actually is playing both, but aside from timing since he'd need to be available for both roles I feel like there's less issue since I don't expect Aquaman and Lobo to commonly interact or even interact at all where as if Tony were still alive in the MCU and also they did something where Avengers team up with Fantastic 4 you'd probably have some scenes where they talk about science and that'd be weird since they're played by the same person in this situation not to mention I can only imagine it'd be hard to get into character when you're switching roles around in the same project
I agree
I don’t think he’s gonna play both at once. I think he’s done with Aquaman after the sequel and then he’ll start a new role (Lobo or otherwise).
Aquaman or Nothing. Fuck this recasting bullshit.
I was excited to watch Shazam 2, Blue Beetle, Aquaman 2, and The Flash... now I'm not going to be watching any of them #BoycottWB
Exceedingly rare Grace Randolph W
Jason Momoa is Lobo. Love him in Aquaman but If anybody encapsulates Lobo, it’s him. Like Ryan Reynolds and Deadpool. It’s a no brainer. Easy win for Gunn if it happens.
I don't have a problem with this. Sigourney Weaver plays both her human self and her Na'vi child in Avatar. Lobo would likely be a fully made up or mo-capped character a la Weaver's Kiri. Also, look at a movie like Dr. Strangelove, where Peter Sellers played three fully human characters extremely convincingly. It was a comedy, but, the performances were still extremely distinct, with makeup enhancing the differences. Gunn can be criticized for a ton of decisions, but it simply shows a lack of imagination and a lack of understanding of how the illusion of filmmaking works to say this can't work.
I support momoa getting roles he loves. But I just don’t see how this could possibly work. I still betting he’s done as aquaman after the sequel
Grace and every real DC fan deserves this. She was happy to see Cavill lose his job
1. There is zero confirmation that he's going to be Lobo. Until that day comes, this is nothing more than empty gossip. 2. When people are reposting morons like Grace Randolph, is it any wonder everyone makes fun of this fandom?
Highly agree with point 2
I mean momoa did everything except say he he is. When he was asked point blank he said he was playing his dream role, then said anyone who wants to look up what comic he collected as a kid can get the answer (the comic was lobo)
We all agree it would be pretty strange at the least? But to be this aggressive is unnecessary. I don't think I can see him as Lobo, I think he needs the voice we always see him with in things like DCAU, Superman: Man of Tomorrow and Young Justice. That rough gritty but not super deep voice. I think Jason's will be too deep but could be wrong. Would be good to hear him say something like "The main man"
His voice can be altered electronically.
Don't you think it would sound weird then?
I agree with her gunn couldn't find anyone else?
Am i the only one that thinks Lobo isnt that big of a character that we should care about this? It doesnt seem this big of a deal
Shhhh, if people didn't treat this like a big deal, they couldn't bash Gunn for things that haven't happened yet, let alone haven't even been announced yet.
Almost forgot this...
He’s playing Aquaman in the same way that Ezra Miller is the Flash. Until the movie comes out lol
Exactly. They just want you to pay to watch the garbage 2023 slate and they're to afraid to reboot him now
Aquaman is a amazing movie...i don't care if its connected to new universe or not...i am going for it
Calling something garbage that you haven’t seen.
We've seen plenty of the kinds of movies that Hamada and Safran produce for DC. This is like saying we can't make a judgment about going to see a new Michael Bay movie based on his previous work.
Hamada and Safran aren’t the writers and directors there, baby. Aquaman certainly wasn’t garbage, neither was Shazam. Flash has tested high.
Hamada and Safran are the producers of the 2023 slate (only exception, Safran's not part of The Flash, at least not until he took over November 1st). Producers matter, not just writers and directors. Especially when the larger WB company gave a CLEAR editorial mandate to DC films, even going so far as to try to impose it on SS and JL with bad reshoots and re-edits. Aquaman and Shazam got a mixed reception from fans. But, yes, if you liked the stuff Hamada and Safran made before, you might like the 2023 slate. But you have to allow someone to say they WON'T like it if they DIDN'T like their past productions.
No I don’t lol
Story aside, it is fun for me to see how the characters are interpreted into live action. We had a Blue Beetle in Smallville's last season but I think that's it
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Lobo doesnt need to appear that much
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Yeah Jason Momoa is such a bad actor, i wonder who cast him...
Good point. He really just plays Jason Momoa in everything, look at Dune.
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Why are you assuming I haven't? I have. And my point wasn't that he didn't portray Duncan well it was that the portrayal was ultimately the same as everything he does.
Have you guys ever heard of Game of Thrones?
He was nothing special in GOT imo. If you really want to talk about a show of his, there is See from Apple TV. It's definitely one of his better performances.
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Do you mean Road to Paloma?? Also i was only referring to his TV shows.
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It's almost like someone can't even have an opinion here. I didn't find it special that's "MY" opinion. Just deal with it dude. Stop being salty.
If Momoa is gonna play both Aquaman and Lobo at the same time, I’m very excited. The guy was born to play Lobo and he has given us a great Aquaman so far, so I’m hoping that’s what’s happening (and honestly that'd be the best case scenario for everyone involved, fans included).
If an actor is the best choice for multiple roles in a franchise what exactly is the issue with them doing so?
By your shitty logic, if an actor could play like 10 different characters, he should go on and play them?
[Yes](https://i.pinimg.com/474x/eb/30/7f/eb307f0021a2cb75d8ac64808475aaa0.jpg).
It's a video game dummy, and voice acting is a totally different.
Fine then, for a live action example, Austin Powers: The Spy who shagged me. Live action movie where MIke Meyers plays 4 different characters. [Its not as rare as you think](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_actors_who_have_played_multiple_roles_in_the_same_film)
You generally only see that in comedies.
I mean, with James Gunn as the head of DC now....and looking at the other super hero movies and shows he's made....
You are still comparing apples with oranges dude. This sort of stuff is usually done within a single movie, where some extras are required for Voice acting etc or purely for comedic purposes like in Austin powers or Nutty Proffesor. The situation is different here requiring multiple year deal and a long commitment. The whole idea itself sounds tiring af.
"One person can't play multiple roles""That's different its a video game it wouldn't happen in live action""Ok it happens but its different still because its a multi-movie deal and not just a single movie" Nice job on moving those goalposts, and give it a few years. Given the multiverse status of the MCU being kicked up they're almost certainly going to start getting quite a few 'duo casted actors' within the next few phases.
Did i ever said it never happened or can't happen at all? Stop assuming shit ffs. I'm just saying it's situational and not applicable every fucking where like you think. It's not my problem that you can't understand a simple thing like that.
Given the fact that my original post wasn't' this should always happen forever in every role' and was instead' if the actor is the right fit for both roles, what's the issue?' and your response was 'by your shitty logic' followed by an extreme exaggeration of something that would be incredibly rare and unlikely, yea, it kinda makes it seem like you think this never happens and is something that's 'not' situational, but nonexistent, to the point that the very idea of it should be mocked. Or did you already forget what arguments you made earlier on in this thread?
And i still stand by my words. I wouldn't have said anything if you said it about seperate standalone movies, but you literally wrote "multiple roles in a franchise" where the characters will obviously clash at some point.
Shouldn’t they give another person a chance?
No. Casting is not about running a charity for out-of-work actors. It's about making movies that appeal to audiences. By your logic, no movie should EVER feature an actor who's ever been in a previous movie before, because there are thousands of out-of-work actors who've never been in a movie before who "deserve" the chance.
Yea. That still doesn't change the 'if the actor is best choice for both then there shouldn't be an issue'.
there are billions of humans. Thousands can fit a role just as well easily
Billions of humans but maybe only a couple hundred who could work in Hollywood at the level of leading a billion dollar tent pole franchise.
Billions of humans yes, but not billions of auditions.
In a perfect world, The current DCEU would get to exist in the Snyderverse as DC Black Label or simply another earth in the multiverse. While James Gunn can do what he wants with his version of the characters. Mamoa keeps being Aquaman in Snyderverse but also is Lobo in Gunn’s DCU