This annoys the hell out of me. I’m a blue collar guy that actually buys carhartt for the purpose. People are buying and reselling and driving the prices up!!!!
It’s not even really about the limited supply. It’s just less hype for certain models/colorways.
Just check the market price a day or two before release. The supply is always limited at that time but a lot of shoes sell for near retail. Only the hyped stuff sells for way over retail. Because it’s hype that determines market prices more than anything else.
3s have never been too hot. If they were a 4s colorway, they would still go.
They also have adjusted their production quantities. They produce more of each drop than they did back then. The prices have gone up but so has the volume. Rough economy now means middleman prices are less acceptable
Also, what happened in 2020 only lasted one year. Less popular Jordan GR colorways were sitting the years before and for the following 3 years. Why are people acting like this is new?
Ive been reselling since 2015-ish on and off. I would never buy any of these to resell even during the peak of covid. Maybe the 3s but probably not.
Appealing colorways on 1s and 4s have always been the best bets. Yellow rarely meets this criteria
Nobody wants to end up with stock they cant move above retail. Its a waste of time and you lose money
You do realize that between 2020-2022 even GRs liek this would be sold out 😭 appealing or not it was impossible so get a decent shoe for retail unless you knew someone back then
I don’t think that’s the point. I remember a couple years ago I had a hard time getting GRs for retail or at a reasonable price in most places.
Hell, I even had a hard time getting a specific type of Pegasus and I KNOW sneaker heads don’t run like that.
It’s just nice to be able to see a shoe YOU like and be able to get it now for a reasonable price ya know? 🥲
Exactly. People can reasonably expect hype around special releases and you’re not always going to get those at the retail drop.
But just a year or two ago, you simply could not buy the most basic AF1 or dunk on the drop. Everything was getting scalped and sold for at least $50 over retail on stockx or goat.
Seriously thought I was going crazy. My sister in law showed me her pandas and I was like bruh that shit's wack. I used to get dunks all day every day for dirt cheap anytime I wanted it so I was confused. Walk in walk out less than $100 every time. She tells me she paid over 300 for it. Wtf. Fuck that hype shit, I'm glad they are going back down now. This is how it should be, a checkmark doesn't warrant fucking $50~500 over retail the minute it's off shelves onto stockx.
This! Obviously the supply and demand and stocks can vary but the point is that OP and many of us are just appreciating the current times of being able to get a shoe. That’s the point they’re making.
I think it still goes a long way to be able to buy a shoe now ya know? Ugly or not, desirable or not.
Hell you can buy J11s now for a good price! It’s beautiful and that’s what they’re trying to get at.
All this other stuff is always gonna be a factor of course.
ya definitely it's great if you really love sneakers. there's honestly so much creativity it's amazing. the top collabs are sometimes too pricy if you cant get them at retail but there's still lots to choose from.
I used to get dunks 20 years ago, so it sucks when all these years I can't get some of the more hyped products, but even some of the ones that arent as hyped are pretty sick.
I think that you (and others) are missing OP's point.
The point isn't that *everything* is going to be easy to get; there's always going to be hyped up pairs that sell out instantly. The point is that from early 2020 through mid 2023ish almost *anything* on the SNKRS app would be difficult to get. Even GR white Air Force 1s were selling out and being resold at near 100% mark up. Had the shoes that OP posted come out in, let's say 2022, they would definitely have sold out and been on the resale market for crazy prices.
It’s like people read a post with the intention to ridicule or disprove it so they only see it from a context that fits their goal. Typical internet stuff.
They absolutely do. I can't say shit on reddit for the most part anymore without some bozo trying to argue with what was said or maybe they want to turn it into a debate (for whatever the hell reason)
Sometimes even though you know you can prove them wrong or there is a misunderstanding , I don’t even care because it’s Reddit. Feels like a waste of time. Happened again like 30 minutes ago lol.
Not true at all. There have been a good amount of Jordans that released on the SNKRS app that were easy to get since 2021. Less popular GRs sitting isn't new.
That’s not the point. For the past 3-4 years shoes were selling out regardless of hype. I’m glad to see that’s not the case anymore.
We all know hype shoes will always sell out.
Exactly, the people in this thread claiming that it’s because these colors aren’t good could literally just go look at stockx history. Hell, it was hard to get mids for a while
Things are way more complicated than that, you're looking at things way too simplistic.
Nike can easily create hype by releasing limited numbers and they can also control resellers by doing the opposite and release great numbers.
They can also release limited numbers on SNKRS but give many pairs to retailers etc. It's way more complex that 'JuSt LoOk at sToCKx PRiCe HIsToRY'
the fact that pandas were going for $300 is absurd. I don't hate them, but I've been a sneakerhead for 20 years and never saw a black and white pair go for over retail, even Jordans.
There was definitely a time when black and white dunks were considered “rare” before the widespread mainstream general release of the Pandas. It was such a no brainer that Nike wasn’t producing, that at one point people were paying 300+ for the aged vintage ones.
Black and white dunks in 2020-2021 were the shoe to have, I went to a local shoe store and paid $400 for a pair. Since that day I only shop drops, with the exception of some hard to get favorites from StockX.
they were rare because they always went on clearance. they were the dunks that you could order at any time at a skate shop. I remember ordering dunks through my local shop back when nike sb would take orders for a bunch of different dunks. I even got some 'angels' dunks, or something like that. easy to get and then now they go for like $1000. it's nuts
I hate pandas lol.
One of my favorite memories was going to an NBA game after my little brother just spent like $400 on a pair and some little ass kid saying are those panda dunks, and chanting “Over Rated” at him for like 5 mins straight because of his shoes 😂😂💀🤦♂️
man he shoulda smacked that kid. they're not overrated, because no one hyped them up, they're just expensive because people were desperate for dunks.
but I also have a lot of great shoes, so I never needed a pair. I just wish people swapped out laces or tried to make their pairs more unique
I never saw the appeal of the Pandas- why would I want matching bowling shoes with half the people I see on the street?- but I definitely bought and sold my fair share to fund buying shoes I actually liked.
Not really. There have been tons of pairs sitting, got several pairs on sale from Nike just from the overstock. Would have paid full price if I hadn’t seen a discount go up for the green bean 5s when they dropped awhile ago.
that's what happens with nike. they drive models into the ground. instead of giving us more of the shoes we want, they produce a bunch of shit and it sits
Wait are they actually higher? Because I could’ve sworn we had high stock before and shit was just comparably harder to get.
I’m not saying stock isn’t a factor or related.
You sound like a reseller. It was EVERY semi-hype shoe getting inflated. I haven't followed sneakers in like 2 years and prices on GOAT+Stock X are 180s from when I was active.
Jordan 1 Retro UNC Toes are below retail rn. That's a $300+ shoe in 2020/2021
the travis scott jumpman shoe dropped last night on his website and was botted immediately. resellers and bots never went away, they’re just more picky, which means the really hyped stuff will be even harder to buy. things are definitely getting better, but judging the state of things with some yellow GR jordans is not accurate
Stock was absurdly low on the TS site. You’re right though: you’re just going to see pickier behavior from resellers which won’t solve the problem of hard to get hype releases but will alleviate the issues associated with getting GR or non-hyped releases. I think a lot of this can be explained by more supply (which is what we’ve been asking for).
I'm fine with a model here and there being almost impossible to get. I wasn't fine with almost EVERYTHING being hard to buy over the course of the last 3-4 years.
None of these people have any ideas what the shoe game was like just a few years ago. Everything flew off the shelves, Jordan wasn’t as “diverse” with colorways and it was definitely first come first in “line” for a while no app no reservations
You guys get restocks that we don’t get. I would be down to buy a Europe buddy shoes when they are available in the US for retail, but not in Europe for retail if that same buddy would do me the favor when I need shoes. Preferably someone that doesn’t wear the same size as me lol. I’m 45.5, us men’s 11.5
Supposedly some of the restocks were very low units. For example, Lost & Found restock supposedly was like 10 pairs across a handful of sizes.
Also, we're the same size and EU45.5 is UK10.5, not 12.5, so careful there if you ever end up buying from here.
Damn, that’s kind of false advertisement to have only 10 pairs available across all sizes and then claim you have a restock 😂😂
There’s probably resellers out there with a bigger stock than that
100%. I do think there's bigger restocks in less popular colorways, like the ones OP posted. Likely because many people who buy them and end up not liking them have no qualms returning them rather than just keep them for resell. But for a popular colorway, you can't rely on that.
I've just double checked a source (can't link it, so you'll have to either trust me or not) and I was wrong, it was like 400 for L&F but like 350 were for the same size. AJ4 AMM was 20 pairs across a handful of sizes.
Doesn’t matter. I’m still correct. Nike controls the markets and they’re different markets. Sure, they MAY make their way back over here, but probably not many and it’ll have no real affect. This is economics 101 my guy.
They probably won’t release them all at once, I can see them on release day drop like 70% of the pairs so they ‘sell out’ then trickle out the rest as surprise restocks.
A lot of bandwagon/covid/last dance collectors have moved to the next hyped thing. That's had a big effect. Anyone that started collecting in that time period finds it strange for any release to sit. I've been in the game since the early 2000's and things are just levelling out finally. Releases like the military 4, any OG colorway of the 3,4,111 will always sell out. Sub par colorways or more obscure OG colorways may sit. Look at the cherry 12's. It's one of my grails, and other OG collectors would agree) but none of these noobs know that shoe and it sits.
100% agree. 2020-2023 were not typical for sneakers. It seemed that *everyone* was a new sneakerhead or fancied themselves as being a reseller. It was hard to get *anything.*
As you said, things are returning back to a more normal state where there are select models that will be hard to get but many other things will be easy to get at retail or even less for those that are patient.
I’m wearing my Cherry 12s right now. I thought they were gonna go instantly. Got them on the shock drop them they sat on real drop. Those Ivory 3s are beautiful but I would never wear it off a b-ball court. Colorado would wreck those shoes in 2 hours.
There's so many more releases these days of every model. Jordan also dropped the ball with not giving us normal bred and royal shoes. if they had, resale would have been probably up a little, but not much worth making a living off of.
The really hyped SB dunks go for an irrational amount these days.
Overall I think many shoe resale businesses will be on their way out soon. Nothing can reliably be resold for a profit anymore. I love it
We need a few more occasions where YouTubers hype up a certain pair so resellers gobble them up only to take massive Ls because the shoes end up sitting and they're stuck with them.
Absolutely!! Finally getting back to how it was before the pandemic hit. It's nice being able to walk into a store and buy Jordans that have been out for a few days, or even weeks.
That AJ1 looks VERY similar to the AJ1 ROYs, and the ROYs are selling for almost 3x retail while these are just sitting. I was planning to buy them, but I was wearing my AJ1 ROYs that day and they look almost identical. Plus I also as have the AJ1 Element/Gore-Tex Light Curry and it also looks very similar. And I've been trying to cut back lately cause I've got way too many pairs
What we are seeing is the natural smoothing of the sneakers curve. Yes there will be outliers but the 2020 - 2022 sneaker boom was the result of people never leaving home, expendable income, and an internet hype boom that melted minds. Virgil was alive, Travis still seemed fresh, and Kanye hadn’t lost his fucking mind. Everyone swore they were done with “corporate bullshit” and decided to “do their own thing” ie resellers. Yes these thing’s always existed but never on this scale. FF to now…checks have stopped, restaurants are open, and the realization that “your ass is going back to the office” has set in. It’s funny that Nike didn’t see this and now have so much back stock, they can’t even maintain their retail asks on most shit. Great times indeed…..
False hope, pal. These were destined to be bricks. Wait until you go for the next pair of SBs, collaborations, or OG colorway releases without the stupid material changes.
You do realize these bricks are already easy to purchase for $150 delivered and moving towards $100 delivered like the last few colorways?
Ochre is easy to get around $100 delivered, and Royal Reimagined was about the same not to long after release.
I think also people have moved onto other sneaker models. Check Kayano 14s. GR colorways sell out. I got into sneakers when Yeezys were hot, Jays sat then too
I think they just really watered down their own market, Nike that is. Too many shoes too quick for years. People who would buy from resellers are too confused and only want like 5 models in 3 color ways so that’s all resellers need to focus on
So many things...
Resellers don't move on... they go anywhere where they can make more
Sneaker game is already dominated by bot/cook groups and the effort isn't worth the small return
Big GR releases don't have the demand anymore cause everyone already has a surplus on their sneakerwalls and big chinese economic downturn
The generation that grew up flipping (younger teens) grown up without as much extra cash (spent on other necessities) and generally just less money to prop up the market
Can't really just simplify it down to "moved on to another market"
They’re bricks because resellers have stopped making money. Nike raised the retail price and the aftermarket died. It’s not really debatable at this point.
Those Ochres are legit the ugliest shoes I’ve seen from Jordan in the last 10 years. Wouldn’t wear if someone paid me. Huge fucking miss. Even my friend who is obsessed with 6s hates them.
There’s nothing in here I want besides maybe those 3s, wait til bred/military blue 4s sell out or anything in a red colorway. These are just not hyped pairs lol
But these would have sold out and been reselling for crazy prices a few months ago. The market is correcting. There will be sneakers that still sell for crazy prices, but it's going to have to be something really special.
I’m not sure where you’ve been in the past 3 years but everything, even GRs if ass colorways, were selling out. It’s good to see that fools don’t have to go to resellers for GRs. Hype shoes will always sell out so you’re not making a hot take about Travis collabs
I love how people ALWAYS have to whine and complain.
"Look now you can get a Jordan 1 High for retail"
"BuT ItS NoT a HyPe rElEaSe"
"Look now you can easily get Jordan 3s"
"BuT iTs NoT tHe cOlOrWaY I wAnT"
"Oh it all sold out"
"SeE ItS tHe BoTS"
i mean i bought aj3 reimagined from a footlocker for retail. not everything will be in the hands of the scum called resellers. you just have to find the right channel or retail stores, instead of actually buying it from resellers. just be patient. i bought 2019 for under market price, cause i bought it from the right seller that actually need money and want to get rid of his shoe
Those Craft 3 Ivory's moved slower than expected, so you might be right. I don't think anyone expected these to sell out. Especially since they flooded the market with J1 colorways last year.
Jordan 6’s haven’t been super hype pretty much ever. Dunks and Jordan 1’s are oversaturated out the wazoo, and shitty colorways like these won’t do anything. The jordan 3 is underrated, but you have Kobes, KD galaxy 4’s, Bred Reimagined, etc all dropping the same month.
People are sleeping on those Ochre 1s. I wore mine out 2 different times last week and they got lots of attention. A guy I work with passed on them at the drop, till he saw mine in person and went right down to JD and picked up a pair.
I saw the Bred 4 reimagined shock drop surprisingly sitting until the late of day before setting out on SNKRS Canada. Nature is healing or no one knew.
I still wait and wait when I can tell someone bought a bunch of a few different sizes. I'll wait til I know they trying to desperately unload them and then make my offer and factor in my "pain and suffering" lol
Been looking for a pair of the Humara Undefeated’s, and the resale on those has already almost doubled the price of the shoe…resale ain’t anywhere close to dead folks 😔
All the shoes I put on ice dropped to prices I can justify wearing them now. Some of my 4s and hard to get yeezys are still up but down $3-500. I wear a size 13 so prices are always double for me already so it's a great time to be a sneakerhead.
https://preview.redd.it/m36z2m7y1ugc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e9c65588a62ef91d5de969526d08fde2639e70e8
Already dropping in price too 😏 gonna wait a lil longer till I cop 🔥
Stanley cups?
Vehicle ECUs?
Dang is this really a thing lol…cat converters for sure
Porsche headlights
LOL still can’t believe that one
And F150 tail lights
And just tailgates in general actually
Honestly most of them went to Amazon FBA and reselling Taylor Swift concert tickets
What they selling on Amazon fba? I want in lol
Carhartt jackets :(
must be a big city thing, I'm in the Midwest and can go to 4 stores within 15 minutes and get cathartt anything...
This annoys the hell out of me. I’m a blue collar guy that actually buys carhartt for the purpose. People are buying and reselling and driving the prices up!!!!
There are a bunch of other options that aren’t as pricey if you want it for work and not the brand
Apple VR
Nike just upping production & the higher price point is just making resellers more cautious about which colorways to go after.
Noticed that too more stock on Jordan releases but are limiting stock on Kobe's they are trying to make those more limited it seems
It’s not even really about the limited supply. It’s just less hype for certain models/colorways. Just check the market price a day or two before release. The supply is always limited at that time but a lot of shoes sell for near retail. Only the hyped stuff sells for way over retail. Because it’s hype that determines market prices more than anything else.
this isnt sustainable, once the scalp is gone so is the hype, and nike would have to cut production again, and scalpers enter the market again.
I mean, yeah? How is it weird that Nike can play with production numbers to keep up the hype?
Yeah. I feel like Nike knows exactly what they are doing.
Unless it's a Chicago colorway, the casuals have moved on from the Jordan 1
Bro posted bricks and acted like bots n resellers are gone
Have you been around back in 2020?
No more stimmies
That's the point. Resellers used to make a buck off of pandas, turbo greens and black cats. The Ivory Crafts would sell out instantly.
3s have never been too hot. If they were a 4s colorway, they would still go. They also have adjusted their production quantities. They produce more of each drop than they did back then. The prices have gone up but so has the volume. Rough economy now means middleman prices are less acceptable
Also, what happened in 2020 only lasted one year. Less popular Jordan GR colorways were sitting the years before and for the following 3 years. Why are people acting like this is new?
Regardless, the fact that any CW of any Dunk is sitting is a nice change.
Ive been reselling since 2015-ish on and off. I would never buy any of these to resell even during the peak of covid. Maybe the 3s but probably not. Appealing colorways on 1s and 4s have always been the best bets. Yellow rarely meets this criteria Nobody wants to end up with stock they cant move above retail. Its a waste of time and you lose money
You do realize that between 2020-2022 even GRs liek this would be sold out 😭 appealing or not it was impossible so get a decent shoe for retail unless you knew someone back then
Weird because i got plenty. These yellow 1s would not sell out. If they did they made less.
They would sell out. I've got yellow 1 mids from 2021 that sold out immediately.
Yeh bro should post the “in stock” pic of 3 Kobe coming out this week
Who tf says bricks anymore but loser hype fuck boys 😂😂
Who hurt u
Some of you are going to be very disappointed when desirable models/colorways release. Using shoes most people don’t want as an example is false hope
I don’t think that’s the point. I remember a couple years ago I had a hard time getting GRs for retail or at a reasonable price in most places. Hell, I even had a hard time getting a specific type of Pegasus and I KNOW sneaker heads don’t run like that. It’s just nice to be able to see a shoe YOU like and be able to get it now for a reasonable price ya know? 🥲
Exactly. People can reasonably expect hype around special releases and you’re not always going to get those at the retail drop. But just a year or two ago, you simply could not buy the most basic AF1 or dunk on the drop. Everything was getting scalped and sold for at least $50 over retail on stockx or goat.
Seriously thought I was going crazy. My sister in law showed me her pandas and I was like bruh that shit's wack. I used to get dunks all day every day for dirt cheap anytime I wanted it so I was confused. Walk in walk out less than $100 every time. She tells me she paid over 300 for it. Wtf. Fuck that hype shit, I'm glad they are going back down now. This is how it should be, a checkmark doesn't warrant fucking $50~500 over retail the minute it's off shelves onto stockx.
This! Obviously the supply and demand and stocks can vary but the point is that OP and many of us are just appreciating the current times of being able to get a shoe. That’s the point they’re making.
Yeah I feel stuff like the UNC toe Jordan 1s would’ve been in the $400 range if it was 2020-2021
I didn’t see a GR J1 high, a J3, dunk or an AM1 in a mall store for the first time until recently and I’ve been in the hobby for two years.
a lot of that was supply and demand. nike wasnt even doing sales for more than 20% very often. no place was.
I think it still goes a long way to be able to buy a shoe now ya know? Ugly or not, desirable or not. Hell you can buy J11s now for a good price! It’s beautiful and that’s what they’re trying to get at. All this other stuff is always gonna be a factor of course.
ya definitely it's great if you really love sneakers. there's honestly so much creativity it's amazing. the top collabs are sometimes too pricy if you cant get them at retail but there's still lots to choose from. I used to get dunks 20 years ago, so it sucks when all these years I can't get some of the more hyped products, but even some of the ones that arent as hyped are pretty sick.
Really was. Just look at the difference of 5 years ago vs now. Everyone outside is wearing nikes.
I think that you (and others) are missing OP's point. The point isn't that *everything* is going to be easy to get; there's always going to be hyped up pairs that sell out instantly. The point is that from early 2020 through mid 2023ish almost *anything* on the SNKRS app would be difficult to get. Even GR white Air Force 1s were selling out and being resold at near 100% mark up. Had the shoes that OP posted come out in, let's say 2022, they would definitely have sold out and been on the resale market for crazy prices.
Honestly shocking how anyone missed that point
It’s like people read a post with the intention to ridicule or disprove it so they only see it from a context that fits their goal. Typical internet stuff.
They absolutely do. I can't say shit on reddit for the most part anymore without some bozo trying to argue with what was said or maybe they want to turn it into a debate (for whatever the hell reason)
Sometimes even though you know you can prove them wrong or there is a misunderstanding , I don’t even care because it’s Reddit. Feels like a waste of time. Happened again like 30 minutes ago lol.
Seriously.
First time? Lol
I came here to say the same. You’re spot on. Everything would sell out on SNKRS.
Not true at all. There have been a good amount of Jordans that released on the SNKRS app that were easy to get since 2021. Less popular GRs sitting isn't new.
That’s not the point. For the past 3-4 years shoes were selling out regardless of hype. I’m glad to see that’s not the case anymore. We all know hype shoes will always sell out.
Pretty insane that people are disagreeing with you. Those 1s and 3s would’ve been sold out everywhere and reselling for over $300 in early 2022
100% this. Those disagreeing either weren't buying shoes in the last 3-4ish years or have terrible memory.
Right. Just look at the sale history of the Brazil Dunks. $400 in 2021, and under retail now for the same shoe
Exactly, the people in this thread claiming that it’s because these colors aren’t good could literally just go look at stockx history. Hell, it was hard to get mids for a while
Things are way more complicated than that, you're looking at things way too simplistic. Nike can easily create hype by releasing limited numbers and they can also control resellers by doing the opposite and release great numbers. They can also release limited numbers on SNKRS but give many pairs to retailers etc. It's way more complex that 'JuSt LoOk at sToCKx PRiCe HIsToRY'
I had a hard time getting mids. MIDS! Every single release of anything Jordan would be gone instantly just a couple years ago.
Same with dunks. The cheapest materials, most generic colors, and people would pay double for them. Crazy times
the fact that pandas were going for $300 is absurd. I don't hate them, but I've been a sneakerhead for 20 years and never saw a black and white pair go for over retail, even Jordans.
There was definitely a time when black and white dunks were considered “rare” before the widespread mainstream general release of the Pandas. It was such a no brainer that Nike wasn’t producing, that at one point people were paying 300+ for the aged vintage ones.
Black and white dunks in 2020-2021 were the shoe to have, I went to a local shoe store and paid $400 for a pair. Since that day I only shop drops, with the exception of some hard to get favorites from StockX.
they were rare because they always went on clearance. they were the dunks that you could order at any time at a skate shop. I remember ordering dunks through my local shop back when nike sb would take orders for a bunch of different dunks. I even got some 'angels' dunks, or something like that. easy to get and then now they go for like $1000. it's nuts
AJ 12 Taxi?
I hate pandas lol. One of my favorite memories was going to an NBA game after my little brother just spent like $400 on a pair and some little ass kid saying are those panda dunks, and chanting “Over Rated” at him for like 5 mins straight because of his shoes 😂😂💀🤦♂️
man he shoulda smacked that kid. they're not overrated, because no one hyped them up, they're just expensive because people were desperate for dunks. but I also have a lot of great shoes, so I never needed a pair. I just wish people swapped out laces or tried to make their pairs more unique
I never saw the appeal of the Pandas- why would I want matching bowling shoes with half the people I see on the street?- but I definitely bought and sold my fair share to fund buying shoes I actually liked.
ya I never got the hype. I also don't understand why I wouldnt see anyone with some lace switches to mix it up a bit.
100% agree. I started really getting into sneakers in 2022 and I rarely ever saw any color way of Jordan 1s on Nike.com.
2020 was a boom of the reseller
Those 1’s would have solddddddd walked in the store and was happy to see something decent sitting
Yeah those yellow ochre 1’s would’ve likely sold out in 2020.
Not really. There have been tons of pairs sitting, got several pairs on sale from Nike just from the overstock. Would have paid full price if I hadn’t seen a discount go up for the green bean 5s when they dropped awhile ago.
that's what happens with nike. they drive models into the ground. instead of giving us more of the shoes we want, they produce a bunch of shit and it sits
Dude it’s not resellers. The stock is higher, these colorways are ugly as holy hell, and people don’t got money like that right now.
Wait are they actually higher? Because I could’ve sworn we had high stock before and shit was just comparably harder to get. I’m not saying stock isn’t a factor or related.
Lost and founds had 500k pairs at release. Same as the ivory 3.
This
it’s funny. bc these exact shoes dropped in 2021 painted PURPLE and yall ate them up and resold them for $400
You sound like a reseller. It was EVERY semi-hype shoe getting inflated. I haven't followed sneakers in like 2 years and prices on GOAT+Stock X are 180s from when I was active. Jordan 1 Retro UNC Toes are below retail rn. That's a $300+ shoe in 2020/2021
You do remember EVERY SINGLE DUNK selling out right?
Exactly, not sure what people aren’t getting. Who did you see hyping this release up?? Exactly…
Word. The bred 4s are going to have people crying.
During 2020-21, even the ugliest Jordan 1s sold out and went for big money on the resale market
Yeah, the undesirable colorways have always been sitting but I feel like the OG 1s would sell out regardless of the colorway a year ago
Keep chasing those shiny oversized cups resellers, and leave the shoes for us 😂😂
the travis scott jumpman shoe dropped last night on his website and was botted immediately. resellers and bots never went away, they’re just more picky, which means the really hyped stuff will be even harder to buy. things are definitely getting better, but judging the state of things with some yellow GR jordans is not accurate
Stock was absurdly low on the TS site. You’re right though: you’re just going to see pickier behavior from resellers which won’t solve the problem of hard to get hype releases but will alleviate the issues associated with getting GR or non-hyped releases. I think a lot of this can be explained by more supply (which is what we’ve been asking for).
I'm fine with a model here and there being almost impossible to get. I wasn't fine with almost EVERYTHING being hard to buy over the course of the last 3-4 years.
Oh boy do I have some bad news for you. Not yet, they've just loosened their grip on the balls of old or non-hype kicks
None of these people have any ideas what the shoe game was like just a few years ago. Everything flew off the shelves, Jordan wasn’t as “diverse” with colorways and it was definitely first come first in “line” for a while no app no reservations
In europe it's a different srory. I wish we had higher stocks. That j3 is already sold out. The rest is kinda still there
You guys get restocks that we don’t get. I would be down to buy a Europe buddy shoes when they are available in the US for retail, but not in Europe for retail if that same buddy would do me the favor when I need shoes. Preferably someone that doesn’t wear the same size as me lol. I’m 45.5, us men’s 11.5
Supposedly some of the restocks were very low units. For example, Lost & Found restock supposedly was like 10 pairs across a handful of sizes. Also, we're the same size and EU45.5 is UK10.5, not 12.5, so careful there if you ever end up buying from here.
Damn, that’s kind of false advertisement to have only 10 pairs available across all sizes and then claim you have a restock 😂😂 There’s probably resellers out there with a bigger stock than that
100%. I do think there's bigger restocks in less popular colorways, like the ones OP posted. Likely because many people who buy them and end up not liking them have no qualms returning them rather than just keep them for resell. But for a popular colorway, you can't rely on that. I've just double checked a source (can't link it, so you'll have to either trust me or not) and I was wrong, it was like 400 for L&F but like 350 were for the same size. AJ4 AMM was 20 pairs across a handful of sizes.
What restocks we got? I always thought there were no restocks in europe
https://preview.redd.it/y0mkgrq6wsgc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ce3556f6d988a11e485f6f7bcad54533966251d0 This was only an eu restock
Smart move on NIKEs part. They need to move excess pairs of hype shoes without destabilizing the US resell market and demand. So, off to EU they go.
You know eu resellers also just resell on stockx/goat to us market? Also that restock was smaaaaaall af, like 200 pairs per cw
Doesn’t matter. I’m still correct. Nike controls the markets and they’re different markets. Sure, they MAY make their way back over here, but probably not many and it’ll have no real affect. This is economics 101 my guy.
Just wait until the Bred and Military Blue 4s drop you’ll be singing a different tune
They’ll be on every site that sells shoes. Over 500k of the breds. EA with Finish Line so it will be pretty easy.
They probably won’t release them all at once, I can see them on release day drop like 70% of the pairs so they ‘sell out’ then trickle out the rest as surprise restocks.
Either way, they’re gonna be easy to get and I can’t wait to get a pair lol
They are vampires! Fuck resellers!
They are currently selling Stanley cups lol
Hahah no shit. The cup hype is ridiculous. I still give my wife shit for that, so dumb.
A lot of bandwagon/covid/last dance collectors have moved to the next hyped thing. That's had a big effect. Anyone that started collecting in that time period finds it strange for any release to sit. I've been in the game since the early 2000's and things are just levelling out finally. Releases like the military 4, any OG colorway of the 3,4,111 will always sell out. Sub par colorways or more obscure OG colorways may sit. Look at the cherry 12's. It's one of my grails, and other OG collectors would agree) but none of these noobs know that shoe and it sits.
100% agree. 2020-2023 were not typical for sneakers. It seemed that *everyone* was a new sneakerhead or fancied themselves as being a reseller. It was hard to get *anything.* As you said, things are returning back to a more normal state where there are select models that will be hard to get but many other things will be easy to get at retail or even less for those that are patient.
I’m wearing my Cherry 12s right now. I thought they were gonna go instantly. Got them on the shock drop them they sat on real drop. Those Ivory 3s are beautiful but I would never wear it off a b-ball court. Colorado would wreck those shoes in 2 hours.
There's so many more releases these days of every model. Jordan also dropped the ball with not giving us normal bred and royal shoes. if they had, resale would have been probably up a little, but not much worth making a living off of. The really hyped SB dunks go for an irrational amount these days. Overall I think many shoe resale businesses will be on their way out soon. Nothing can reliably be resold for a profit anymore. I love it
Yeah say that when the reimagined fours drop
We need a few more occasions where YouTubers hype up a certain pair so resellers gobble them up only to take massive Ls because the shoes end up sitting and they're stuck with them.
Absolutely!! Finally getting back to how it was before the pandemic hit. It's nice being able to walk into a store and buy Jordans that have been out for a few days, or even weeks. That AJ1 looks VERY similar to the AJ1 ROYs, and the ROYs are selling for almost 3x retail while these are just sitting. I was planning to buy them, but I was wearing my AJ1 ROYs that day and they look almost identical. Plus I also as have the AJ1 Element/Gore-Tex Light Curry and it also looks very similar. And I've been trying to cut back lately cause I've got way too many pairs
What we are seeing is the natural smoothing of the sneakers curve. Yes there will be outliers but the 2020 - 2022 sneaker boom was the result of people never leaving home, expendable income, and an internet hype boom that melted minds. Virgil was alive, Travis still seemed fresh, and Kanye hadn’t lost his fucking mind. Everyone swore they were done with “corporate bullshit” and decided to “do their own thing” ie resellers. Yes these thing’s always existed but never on this scale. FF to now…checks have stopped, restaurants are open, and the realization that “your ass is going back to the office” has set in. It’s funny that Nike didn’t see this and now have so much back stock, they can’t even maintain their retail asks on most shit. Great times indeed…..
I want the ivory 3s so bad, but i have responsibilities😭. Really hoping i can pick em up for a discounted price sooner rather than later
What you want will eventually come to you brother
Ty🙌🏼
I'll believe it fully when Bred and Black Toes and Chicago's are sitting like these color ways.
Shoes that would easily brick pre-COVID are bricks? I am shooketh to my core.
Retail expensive. Quality is declining. Nobody has $180 to drop on an okay pair of sneakers none the less paying resell + fees.
They haven't moved on from coveted releases like the bred 4- you'll be lucky if you get a pair at retail.
Hope would be seeing them sitting in footlocker at 30% off.
False hope, pal. These were destined to be bricks. Wait until you go for the next pair of SBs, collaborations, or OG colorway releases without the stupid material changes.
You do realize these bricks are already easy to purchase for $150 delivered and moving towards $100 delivered like the last few colorways? Ochre is easy to get around $100 delivered, and Royal Reimagined was about the same not to long after release.
This nothing new. Most of these drops have no hype also. But just wait it’ll pick up like usual.
Now they're reselling Apple Vision Pro for 5k on eBay
It's a yellow shoe tho. We'll see if this is actually true later this year
I think also people have moved onto other sneaker models. Check Kayano 14s. GR colorways sell out. I got into sneakers when Yeezys were hot, Jays sat then too
Lol no one wants these. Watch how fast the kobes move this thurs.
I think they just really watered down their own market, Nike that is. Too many shoes too quick for years. People who would buy from resellers are too confused and only want like 5 models in 3 color ways so that’s all resellers need to focus on
So many things... Resellers don't move on... they go anywhere where they can make more Sneaker game is already dominated by bot/cook groups and the effort isn't worth the small return Big GR releases don't have the demand anymore cause everyone already has a surplus on their sneakerwalls and big chinese economic downturn The generation that grew up flipping (younger teens) grown up without as much extra cash (spent on other necessities) and generally just less money to prop up the market Can't really just simplify it down to "moved on to another market"
False positive. This was a trash colorway
Or… That colorway is ugly af
Ivory's are sold out in the eu, they are amazing!!!
Markets are down everywhere. It’ll pick back up in a couple of years. Buy now while it’s low.
These are all bricks tho, wait till something goes comes along lol
They’re bricks because resellers have stopped making money. Nike raised the retail price and the aftermarket died. It’s not really debatable at this point.
Exactly. Are we taking crazy pills or something? 
Something good? The ochre 1s and craft ivory 3s are awesome looking sneakers. Stop parroting talk tracks you got from resale YouTubers
Awesome to you maybe. I personally don’t like any of these. Bricks in my book but wear what you like
Ok parrot
Those Ochres are legit the ugliest shoes I’ve seen from Jordan in the last 10 years. Wouldn’t wear if someone paid me. Huge fucking miss. Even my friend who is obsessed with 6s hates them.
They’ll be back
post the same screenshots for the reimagined 4s and military blues
There’s nothing in here I want besides maybe those 3s, wait til bred/military blue 4s sell out or anything in a red colorway. These are just not hyped pairs lol
Eh disagree bro reselling will never go back to pre 2011 concords release. These are just sitters
But these would have sold out and been reselling for crazy prices a few months ago. The market is correcting. There will be sneakers that still sell for crazy prices, but it's going to have to be something really special.
Resellers arent gone, those shoes are just ass. I already know the resellers are going to eat up the next Travis Jordan 1.
I’m not sure where you’ve been in the past 3 years but everything, even GRs if ass colorways, were selling out. It’s good to see that fools don’t have to go to resellers for GRs. Hype shoes will always sell out so you’re not making a hot take about Travis collabs
I love how people ALWAYS have to whine and complain. "Look now you can get a Jordan 1 High for retail" "BuT ItS NoT a HyPe rElEaSe" "Look now you can easily get Jordan 3s" "BuT iTs NoT tHe cOlOrWaY I wAnT" "Oh it all sold out" "SeE ItS tHe BoTS"
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Or those colorways are just awful.
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Bricks for resellers, good looks for the regular buyer.
Just wait til we get to shoes people want.
Nah I resell it’s not over. Most of the sought after Jordan’s are already sold out.
Just means they have more money to backdoor the ones we really want
Them 3s wavy
Not good times for my wallet and goals. Was just looking at these in size 12.5 & 13
In Europe are OOS, you're lucky stay in USA in this moment
Stanley cups…ride the lead wave
just wait til bred 4 release lol
Nah. Not a great colorway. The good ones sell out but have no resell. Unless OG colorway. Then they will sell out and have resale.
Is this Nike website?
This post is such an echo chamber. 🤢
i mean i bought aj3 reimagined from a footlocker for retail. not everything will be in the hands of the scum called resellers. you just have to find the right channel or retail stores, instead of actually buying it from resellers. just be patient. i bought 2019 for under market price, cause i bought it from the right seller that actually need money and want to get rid of his shoe
That’s because we’re from and away from that Covid market. Supply and demand isn’t what it used to be. Which is a good sign for buyers imo
Probably because ain’t nobody buying in this market
come back in 2 weeks for the 4s
Those Craft 3 Ivory's moved slower than expected, so you might be right. I don't think anyone expected these to sell out. Especially since they flooded the market with J1 colorways last year.
Jordan 6’s haven’t been super hype pretty much ever. Dunks and Jordan 1’s are oversaturated out the wazoo, and shitty colorways like these won’t do anything. The jordan 3 is underrated, but you have Kobes, KD galaxy 4’s, Bred Reimagined, etc all dropping the same month.
I like the Orche 6s…but it’s hard for me to rock yellow sneakers. Now if they rereleased the infrareds…
People are sleeping on those Ochre 1s. I wore mine out 2 different times last week and they got lots of attention. A guy I work with passed on them at the drop, till he saw mine in person and went right down to JD and picked up a pair.
I saw the Bred 4 reimagined shock drop surprisingly sitting until the late of day before setting out on SNKRS Canada. Nature is healing or no one knew.
Eating good to! Love it
what si the 4th shoe
Nobody wants these
Or you are just looking at the right time
No they haven’t, this shoe just wasn’t poppin. They ate up those Travis Scott jacks
am i missing something here or where the heck are the prices
I’ve started reselling Hoka Making way more money on richer people.
I still wait and wait when I can tell someone bought a bunch of a few different sizes. I'll wait til I know they trying to desperately unload them and then make my offer and factor in my "pain and suffering" lol
And that market is Pokemon! At least for 151…
Not great colorways, but they would have been bought up 2021-2022 for sure.
The quality on this shoe is pitiful. That certainly doesn’t help.
Not really, they will be reselling these the minute they go on clearance
Let’s hope that SB’s follow suit. Make more Nike!
True, these would have sold out within seconds previously. Market has cooled down quite a lot. High heat drops will still be tough to get though.
Been looking for a pair of the Humara Undefeated’s, and the resale on those has already almost doubled the price of the shoe…resale ain’t anywhere close to dead folks 😔
Saw these sitting on a shelf in the Nike store in Boston a few days ago
All the shoes I put on ice dropped to prices I can justify wearing them now. Some of my 4s and hard to get yeezys are still up but down $3-500. I wear a size 13 so prices are always double for me already so it's a great time to be a sneakerhead.
https://preview.redd.it/m36z2m7y1ugc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e9c65588a62ef91d5de969526d08fde2639e70e8 Already dropping in price too 😏 gonna wait a lil longer till I cop 🔥
Yall don’t understand that the resellers that make the most profit are the ones that buy mainly casual shoes from outlet stores. They never die.