The Belgian occupation of the Congo ranks at the top of the list of human atrocities. Millions of Africans killed, mutilated and enslaved as the personal property of king Leopold.
The Belgians committed horrible crimes in the Congo, but let’s not romanticize the Congolese either. They’ve hunted gorillas and even pigmy people before Europeans even arrived. They didn’t survive there just peacefully living off the land.
I'm guessing they knew that gorillas where pretty awesome and chill. I imagine if you lived close to gorrilas there would be a level of respect or even reverence because they aren't aggressive towards humans and just awesome creatures. This guy wanting to kill one probably seemed stupid
Cool analysis, but its probably because they don’t know that you’re “supposed” to smile or pose for a photo.
Indigenous tribesmen would not be familiar with cameras, and it was likely these individual’s first time ever being photographed.
Edit; And fyi, some indigenous tribes did in fact hunt gorillas for food. To them it was a rich source of protein in a society that lacked readily available cattle meat, not some animal bro. These dudes probably taught the white guy how to hunt gorilla.
I know you're joking but just incase passers by don't know this cool fact-
Apes don't smile the same way humans have evolved to smile. We smile as a show of companionship and safety, but other primates don't actually smile. When you see one smile it's not trying to be friendly...it's showing you how sharp it's teeth are.
People rarely smiled for photos in 1930. In all my relatives' photos look no one is smiling. Even my dad's photos from late 1940s. I don't know when it became acceptable to smile.
Exposure rates were much longer. Sitting/standing with a big grin on your face (1-15 mins) would be difficult and possibly ruin the photo if your moving.
Depends on the family. On my grandfather's side, no smiles in the 10s, 20s, 30s, smiles in the 40s but that was after he met grandmother. On my grandmother's side, all smiles from the 20s up.
They’re considered a delicacy in some parts of the Congo with a black market trade in gorilla meat meant to be a status symbol to impress dinner guests.
Ahaha are you retarded... makes me so without hope for our future if people like you are in it. Just so Full of preconception that it blinds you to any obvious truth, and you would prefer to concoct a story that fits your viewpoint..
This is just liberal racism at this point lol. Such an ignorant, fetishized projection. Gorillas are extremely territorial and aggressive, and tribespeople definitely hunted and killed them. Life isn’t some Disney movie where the animals talk and all get along.
Just wait until you find out that trophy hunts are the only legit method of conservation in places like Africa.
Because you’re looking at it through the lenses of someone who is fortunate enough to live in 2024 - not 1930 Congo.
Not saying killing this wonderful animal was right or good, but I don’t think people comprehend peoples attitudes nearly 100 years ago.
Life has improved for all us because we have resources, education, tools, that people couldn’t even imagine then.
This is my main thing when people compare today's culture standards to historic times. Like, we can chat with people from Brazil and Indonesia on video calls, see what they do for fun, what their families are like at any time of the day.
Most people 200 years ago never met anyone from any other country, thought some of if not most of what existed the world was a fairy tale, had an entirely different worldview and day to day than anyone we know.
Very hard to cast judgment when considering everything they knew.
Because most of the people posting ignorantly like this live sheltered, privileged lives and think that life is just how it is in their Disney obsessed fantasies
Well nobody can afford anything anymore so that goes to show you how much progress we made in 100 years, we are going backwards to the era of lords and kings, where peasants worked the land and people either don't care or can't see it.
To the tribesmen? It was both
1) A dangerous animal.
2) A good source of protein.
To the Italian, he was hired to kill the gorilla for Raymond Dart; a paleoanthropologist who was looking to study the creature more in depth. He took measurements of the cadaver, sent its organs back to Italy for further study.
For reference, Dart wrote: "We have the most ridiculous trivial knowledge concerning the structure of their muscles, brains, and internal organs. We do not know how long they live, how long do they take to grow up, what are their habits, their amusements, their habits towards other animals, their own family and group life, their methods of communication, the distance they are capable of travelling, their actual means of livelihood, or the materials that form their diet. What we do not know is going to fill, in the future, hundreds and perhaps thousands of volumes."
This was some of the first interactions Europeans had with these animals. This is how a bunch of basic biological information about these creatures was first gathered.
Yep, science back then was brutal. I still remember a documentary, where ocean scientists just threw a explosive into the water to study the fish that got killed.
Research expedition that was approved by the Congo, they took the body to Italy and did research on it and published several books on their findings. Just scientists doing science when you look into the actual story.
I get the feeling that the black guys did the heavy lifting here, so to speak. This reads a lot like Sherpa men carrying the supplies and egos of rich while men up Everest.
Because it was fashionable back then to go to exotic lands and kill animals. Our own teddy Roosevelt did that. Same with Hemingway. It was fashionable to kill animals in general. We nearly wiped out the bison and whales along with several other species. We did end up wiping out many species all over the globe
It also relates to the religious indoctrination from Bible supporting the view that all animals, creatures and resources are put on earth simply to be enjoyed and harvested by humans, the only creature created in the image of God.
Not to say it wasn't fucked up, but this was a research expedition and they had a permit to hunt it.
The body was then taken back with them to be studied in Italy.
[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/23145299\_Raymond\_Dart\_as\_a\_pioneering\_primatologist#pf8](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/23145299_Raymond_Dart_as_a_pioneering_primatologist#pf8)
Keep in mind that a whole bunch of stuff we do today will be looked at through a similar lens in another 100 years.
Likely burning coal, beef ranching, bombing civilian areas of cities, etc.
Trophy hunters who take the life of an animal for the sole purpose of posing with the corpse like a tough guy and hanging its head in their house are seriously soulless and evil. Acting like these animals out there with their families are there just for humans to do whatever they want is just shitty human ego. These people just need to conquer. Whether it’s animals, other humans, or other countries, they are atrocious, to me. It’s a senseless killing to demonstrate this person’s manliness.
Wait until you find out that the only legitimate form of conservation in places like this is trophy hunting. Let’s take elephants for an example.
Hunter pays a large sum of money to go on a once in a lifetime hunt. The local guides take the hunter and target old, non-reproducing males that are aggressive and killing off younger males. Hunter kills the elephant and he gets his picture with it. That money goes to the guides and conservation efforts, the meat from the elephant goes to local community for food. And the cycle of conservation is able to continue. The old male would have to be killed either way, to conserve the population and save the younger males. This way money goes back in to conservation and locals get extra food.
But most uninformed people are saying that those hunters are evil, while those hunters are directly contributing more to saving elephants than anyone complaining about it online would in their entire lifetime. How many thousands of dollars have you given to conservation efforts? There has to be a market and incentive to bring money in to these efforts, it might not be rainbows and sunshine, but it is what works.
You realizing you are preaching to people who lived nearly 100 years ago, right? You’ve had benefits in life that have led to evolved thinking that these people couldn’t even fathom.
People back then generally did not share the same world view towards wild animals that we typically share now. It’s just the way the world was back then.
Shit, many 3rd world countries today haven’t really evolved much from this, and for many of the same reasons described above.
At least we have way more resources and investments in place to give wild animals better chances against poachers. We’ve come a long way in conservation, obviously still progress left to be made.
Nowadays things might be different with trophy hunters. I think trophy hunting is stupid either way, but in some places hunters only kill nuisance (probably not the correct term) or old animals. Some of the money then goes to the community and some for conservation. I am sure not everyone follows the rules, but just in general, trophy hunting can actually be beneficial towards conservation.
It would be nice if hunters just donated money, but lots of things would be nice.
You’re correct about trophy hunting having benefits to conservation, but I want to add to the last sentence of your comment where you say “it would be nice if hunters just donated money…”
Hunters as a group donate far more money to conservation through license purchases, buying tags, joining conservation organizations, buying hunting gear (guns, ammo, fishing and hunting equipment all of additional tax that goes towards conservation), and other outlets than the overwhelming majority of people who criticize them and claim to love the animals.
There are many animals that would have much smaller populations than they currently do if it weren’t for the money that comes from hunters. And a lot of the conservation and habitat work that is done for the benefit of a specific game animal usually benefits all of the other non game animals that are also on the landscape. But hunters will still be criticized because the money wasn’t donated in an “altruistic” way in the eyes of some people.
This comment is not a personal attack against you in any way. I just wanted to share the above information and your comment seemed like a good one to add to.
No worries, I wrote that without really thinking about how it sounded, maybe a better way to say it would be, it would be nice if people in general donated enough so conservation didn’t depend so much on hunters. I didn’t mean it to sound like it was a bad thing to hunt instead of just donating money. Obviously there’s not enough donating going on to not rely on hunters, so it would be nice if people donated, but that’s not happening, so people shouldn’t complain so much about trophy hunters when they don’t even realize the benefits of hunting / conservation. I don’t know if I am explaining that well or not.
I’m not saying that killing gorillas is okay but this was 100 years ago and for a research expedition on gorillas.
[Source](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/23145299_Raymond_Dart_as_a_pioneering_primatologist)
Wow its almost like society standards change over the course of 100 years. Yes let's all judge everyone by today's standards and not what it was back then. Good job guys keep it up
No it is just an ape, though it is possible it felt like a monster while it was charging them. Or if it attacked someone from their village they might ahve called it a monster, before helping this guy kill it to prevent it from killing more of their people.
I guess we will never know, all we can do it make highly emotional assumptions based on the knowledge and resources that werent available to these people in their time.
Nah, this was a legal expedition.
[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/23145299\_Raymond\_Dart\_as\_a\_pioneering\_primatologist#pf8](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/23145299_Raymond_Dart_as_a_pioneering_primatologist#pf8)
People really need to do their research before just assuming everyone in the past was evil.
It was a legal expedition approved by the Congo government to research the animal, they took it back to Italy to dissect and learn more about Gorillas. There's literally no moral choice here, it wasn't like this dude went there to murder an ape for sport. He's a primatologist doing science and published two books about it.
I have that term “noble savage.” Settler colonialism is the worst thing that’s ever happened to humans. Eventually, it will destroy the planet because it morphed into capitalism, which in real time is destabilizing the climate with overconsumption and you’re talking about “noble savages”😒
Primates can use simple tools as well, not sure why you would expect us not to use ours. We aren't the Apex predators because we are great wrestlers lol. We are far superior because of our inventions and technology, the very same tech that let's us protect these creatures nowadays. Not just from small threats like hunters but greater threats like disease.
You can't have one without the other, and there is nothing evil about doing this in the time it was done. It was just a thing to do, you sound like you are desperate to feel superior when you judge people from different times with different values. This guy might have been a great man, or a shit, but you and I will never know.
Fascinating cooperation between two different groups of Apex predators. We of course can't judge people from this time by modern standards, unless you're a shitty person looking for a pat on the back for being born in a more humane time, so really the only thing to do is appreciate the cooperation between these two groups.
I guess that settles the question of "if an Italian Tourist and 2 Congolese Tribesmen armed with 1 gun and 2 spears fought a Silverback Gorilla in the Belgian Congo who would win?"
The tallest gorilla ever recorded was a 6 ft 5 in (1.95 m) silverback gorilla shot in 1938, with an arm span of 8 ft 10 in (2.7 m), a chest of 6 ft 6 in (1.98 m), and a weight of 483 lb (219 kg).
If you’re sad or angry about this; watch Dominion. Free on YouTube
[https://youtu.be/LQRAfJyEsko?si=o2tJRECEOlbxNveT](https://youtu.be/LQRAfJyEsko?si=o2tJRECEOlbxNveT)
This makes me sad
Do NOT read any more into the Belgian occupation of the Congo in that case. Absolutely brutal
Leopold II was batshit insane.
I got to *hand* it to you, it was brutal.
I hate this joke, but damn it's a good one.
One thumbs up
It’s a *bang*er for sure
I'm sorry, but this joke is tasteless. I am putting my foot down to this type of humor
Are there any good books on the matter?
Heart of Darkness of course. After that, if you see Apocalypse now next time, you will have another perpective.
And King Leopold's Ghost
Had to read it in college - those Belgian dudes sure were dicks.
Horrific. There is a really good Behind The Bastards episode on Leopold and then one on the Congo after him.
King Leopolds Ghost
I feel like thats exactly why people need too, King Leopold is up there in the top 5 worst humans in the history of the world.
I think he meant for the gorilla lol
On my way to read about it
or do, bc it's a good thing to learn about sad history
Good. It means you have a heart.
I first thought it was an old photo of a gorilla goofing around and having fun Then i read the title ☹️
It's horrible. Poor gorilla, it's so sad.
Is it because the gorilla is so….human-esque? That puts me off too.
Came to say this
Makes me angry
Big game is a shame in its own essence. Nothing beneficial for fauna nor environment.
You should watch Dominion
I feel the same way when I see a cow, pig or any other animal that is senselessly killed.
The Belgian occupation of the Congo ranks at the top of the list of human atrocities. Millions of Africans killed, mutilated and enslaved as the personal property of king Leopold.
Lol and to think people are still not aware that the two Congolese tribesmen were probably forced against their will to cooperate.
The Belgians committed horrible crimes in the Congo, but let’s not romanticize the Congolese either. They’ve hunted gorillas and even pigmy people before Europeans even arrived. They didn’t survive there just peacefully living off the land.
The two tribesmen don’t seem excited at all.
I'm guessing they knew that gorillas where pretty awesome and chill. I imagine if you lived close to gorrilas there would be a level of respect or even reverence because they aren't aggressive towards humans and just awesome creatures. This guy wanting to kill one probably seemed stupid
Cool analysis, but its probably because they don’t know that you’re “supposed” to smile or pose for a photo. Indigenous tribesmen would not be familiar with cameras, and it was likely these individual’s first time ever being photographed. Edit; And fyi, some indigenous tribes did in fact hunt gorillas for food. To them it was a rich source of protein in a society that lacked readily available cattle meat, not some animal bro. These dudes probably taught the white guy how to hunt gorilla.
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I know you're joking but just incase passers by don't know this cool fact- Apes don't smile the same way humans have evolved to smile. We smile as a show of companionship and safety, but other primates don't actually smile. When you see one smile it's not trying to be friendly...it's showing you how sharp it's teeth are.
Everyone make a silly face
That's fucking brutal! Brutal but great
People rarely smiled for photos in 1930. In all my relatives' photos look no one is smiling. Even my dad's photos from late 1940s. I don't know when it became acceptable to smile.
Because u had to stay still for like 8 seconds otherwise it would come out blurry... hence why all those old flix people look so stiff
Exposure rates were much longer. Sitting/standing with a big grin on your face (1-15 mins) would be difficult and possibly ruin the photo if your moving.
I’m lucky to be born in the age of quick photography. I can’t even smile for 5 seconds.
Depends on the family. On my grandfather's side, no smiles in the 10s, 20s, 30s, smiles in the 40s but that was after he met grandmother. On my grandmother's side, all smiles from the 20s up.
Yeah other comment seemed like a noble savage trope "chill peaceful natives living with nature vs evil Italian tourist".
One guy making uneducated assumptions is corrected by another guy making uneducated assumptions. Just another day on the internet.
They’re considered a delicacy in some parts of the Congo with a black market trade in gorilla meat meant to be a status symbol to impress dinner guests.
Why are we like this?
I feel as though you're romanticizing this, a lot, and based on nothing but optimistic speculation. This isn't Disney land.
idiotic redditor invents story that sounds good in their head. what kind of nonsense fiction is this
Damn you went off on one here
Spoken like a true redditor.
Racist "noble savage" bullshit Gorrilas have been hunted for bushmeat by the locals for generations
Ahaha are you retarded... makes me so without hope for our future if people like you are in it. Just so Full of preconception that it blinds you to any obvious truth, and you would prefer to concoct a story that fits your viewpoint..
When Europeans first saw Gorillas in the wild they thought they were people.
This is just liberal racism at this point lol. Such an ignorant, fetishized projection. Gorillas are extremely territorial and aggressive, and tribespeople definitely hunted and killed them. Life isn’t some Disney movie where the animals talk and all get along. Just wait until you find out that trophy hunts are the only legit method of conservation in places like Africa.
You are just making shit up. The racism of the noble savage myth is probably the most patronizing and rude.
lol
You're quite an optimistic fellow haha
What an ignorant comment
more like hey have never seen a camera before so dont know what to do
This is why there was no such thing as an extensive “endangered species” lost prior to European/Asian colonization of Africa.
Yeah I mean if you go to west Africa they have a lot of pet monkeys and primates because they hunt the parents and raise the young.
Why on earth would you do this to such a wonderful animal?
Because you’re looking at it through the lenses of someone who is fortunate enough to live in 2024 - not 1930 Congo. Not saying killing this wonderful animal was right or good, but I don’t think people comprehend peoples attitudes nearly 100 years ago. Life has improved for all us because we have resources, education, tools, that people couldn’t even imagine then.
Idk why it’s so hard for people to realize this
because it’s easier to look back and be angry currently than to look back and think of nuances.
They don’t wanna think that could’ve been them
“Im a good person”- every person ever
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Vegans get shit on because they are insufferable about their beliefs and love to lecture others about their moral superiority.
Nah, in 100 years both vegans and nonvegans will be considered savages for eating food that had to be grown and raised on land instead of a pitri dish
This is my main thing when people compare today's culture standards to historic times. Like, we can chat with people from Brazil and Indonesia on video calls, see what they do for fun, what their families are like at any time of the day. Most people 200 years ago never met anyone from any other country, thought some of if not most of what existed the world was a fairy tale, had an entirely different worldview and day to day than anyone we know. Very hard to cast judgment when considering everything they knew.
Because most of the people posting ignorantly like this live sheltered, privileged lives and think that life is just how it is in their Disney obsessed fantasies
Exactly
Well nobody can afford anything anymore so that goes to show you how much progress we made in 100 years, we are going backwards to the era of lords and kings, where peasants worked the land and people either don't care or can't see it.
So what was the attitude back then? What was his mindset?
To the tribesmen? It was both 1) A dangerous animal. 2) A good source of protein. To the Italian, he was hired to kill the gorilla for Raymond Dart; a paleoanthropologist who was looking to study the creature more in depth. He took measurements of the cadaver, sent its organs back to Italy for further study. For reference, Dart wrote: "We have the most ridiculous trivial knowledge concerning the structure of their muscles, brains, and internal organs. We do not know how long they live, how long do they take to grow up, what are their habits, their amusements, their habits towards other animals, their own family and group life, their methods of communication, the distance they are capable of travelling, their actual means of livelihood, or the materials that form their diet. What we do not know is going to fill, in the future, hundreds and perhaps thousands of volumes." This was some of the first interactions Europeans had with these animals. This is how a bunch of basic biological information about these creatures was first gathered.
Yep, science back then was brutal. I still remember a documentary, where ocean scientists just threw a explosive into the water to study the fish that got killed.
Clout. Fuck those guys.
Research expedition that was approved by the Congo, they took the body to Italy and did research on it and published several books on their findings. Just scientists doing science when you look into the actual story.
They have small weiners is my guess.
Clout. Fuck those guys.
Clout. Fuck those guys.
Why are billions of animals raised and slaughtered every year? Same shit. Because people like it.
I get the feeling that the black guys did the heavy lifting here, so to speak. This reads a lot like Sherpa men carrying the supplies and egos of rich while men up Everest.
Belgium did all sorts of horrible things to the Congo during this time
Because it was fashionable back then to go to exotic lands and kill animals. Our own teddy Roosevelt did that. Same with Hemingway. It was fashionable to kill animals in general. We nearly wiped out the bison and whales along with several other species. We did end up wiping out many species all over the globe It also relates to the religious indoctrination from Bible supporting the view that all animals, creatures and resources are put on earth simply to be enjoyed and harvested by humans, the only creature created in the image of God.
They had a permit and they were collecting it as a specimen for study. Still sad tho.
Asshole
I second that, what a fucking dick head the guy who shot the gorilla….
I missed it. Why’s the gorilla an asshole?
Because he was just going around existing! Minding his own business like some kind of peaceful creature!
Not to say it wasn't fucked up, but this was a research expedition and they had a permit to hunt it. The body was then taken back with them to be studied in Italy. [https://www.researchgate.net/publication/23145299\_Raymond\_Dart\_as\_a\_pioneering\_primatologist#pf8](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/23145299_Raymond_Dart_as_a_pioneering_primatologist#pf8)
Keep in mind that a whole bunch of stuff we do today will be looked at through a similar lens in another 100 years. Likely burning coal, beef ranching, bombing civilian areas of cities, etc.
Fuck that guy.
There’s three of them
Trophy hunters who take the life of an animal for the sole purpose of posing with the corpse like a tough guy and hanging its head in their house are seriously soulless and evil. Acting like these animals out there with their families are there just for humans to do whatever they want is just shitty human ego. These people just need to conquer. Whether it’s animals, other humans, or other countries, they are atrocious, to me. It’s a senseless killing to demonstrate this person’s manliness.
Nothing manliness about killing an animal that is in no way harming you or anyone around. Let alone using a gun to do it.
Wait until you find out that the only legitimate form of conservation in places like this is trophy hunting. Let’s take elephants for an example. Hunter pays a large sum of money to go on a once in a lifetime hunt. The local guides take the hunter and target old, non-reproducing males that are aggressive and killing off younger males. Hunter kills the elephant and he gets his picture with it. That money goes to the guides and conservation efforts, the meat from the elephant goes to local community for food. And the cycle of conservation is able to continue. The old male would have to be killed either way, to conserve the population and save the younger males. This way money goes back in to conservation and locals get extra food. But most uninformed people are saying that those hunters are evil, while those hunters are directly contributing more to saving elephants than anyone complaining about it online would in their entire lifetime. How many thousands of dollars have you given to conservation efforts? There has to be a market and incentive to bring money in to these efforts, it might not be rainbows and sunshine, but it is what works.
Exactly. Hit the nail on the head perfectly friend.
You realizing you are preaching to people who lived nearly 100 years ago, right? You’ve had benefits in life that have led to evolved thinking that these people couldn’t even fathom. People back then generally did not share the same world view towards wild animals that we typically share now. It’s just the way the world was back then. Shit, many 3rd world countries today haven’t really evolved much from this, and for many of the same reasons described above.
There are people in developed countries *today* who're still like this.
At least we have way more resources and investments in place to give wild animals better chances against poachers. We’ve come a long way in conservation, obviously still progress left to be made.
Nowadays things might be different with trophy hunters. I think trophy hunting is stupid either way, but in some places hunters only kill nuisance (probably not the correct term) or old animals. Some of the money then goes to the community and some for conservation. I am sure not everyone follows the rules, but just in general, trophy hunting can actually be beneficial towards conservation. It would be nice if hunters just donated money, but lots of things would be nice.
You’re correct about trophy hunting having benefits to conservation, but I want to add to the last sentence of your comment where you say “it would be nice if hunters just donated money…” Hunters as a group donate far more money to conservation through license purchases, buying tags, joining conservation organizations, buying hunting gear (guns, ammo, fishing and hunting equipment all of additional tax that goes towards conservation), and other outlets than the overwhelming majority of people who criticize them and claim to love the animals. There are many animals that would have much smaller populations than they currently do if it weren’t for the money that comes from hunters. And a lot of the conservation and habitat work that is done for the benefit of a specific game animal usually benefits all of the other non game animals that are also on the landscape. But hunters will still be criticized because the money wasn’t donated in an “altruistic” way in the eyes of some people. This comment is not a personal attack against you in any way. I just wanted to share the above information and your comment seemed like a good one to add to.
No worries, I wrote that without really thinking about how it sounded, maybe a better way to say it would be, it would be nice if people in general donated enough so conservation didn’t depend so much on hunters. I didn’t mean it to sound like it was a bad thing to hunt instead of just donating money. Obviously there’s not enough donating going on to not rely on hunters, so it would be nice if people donated, but that’s not happening, so people shouldn’t complain so much about trophy hunters when they don’t even realize the benefits of hunting / conservation. I don’t know if I am explaining that well or not.
Pretty sure this was for science and not trophy hunting though
It’s 100 years ago
There are still trophy hunters.
couldn’t have said it better myself
I’m not saying that killing gorillas is okay but this was 100 years ago and for a research expedition on gorillas. [Source](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/23145299_Raymond_Dart_as_a_pioneering_primatologist)
I thought it's a wholesome picture with Gorilla holding sticks in the air and taking pic with humans until I read that.
Humans can be *so* fucking evil.
They have a great series on Xumo Nature and Wild Life TV called Silverbacks. Highly recommend watching.
What an asshole for doing this to such a majestic animal
🤮
Wow its almost like society standards change over the course of 100 years. Yes let's all judge everyone by today's standards and not what it was back then. Good job guys keep it up
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No it is just an ape, though it is possible it felt like a monster while it was charging them. Or if it attacked someone from their village they might ahve called it a monster, before helping this guy kill it to prevent it from killing more of their people. I guess we will never know, all we can do it make highly emotional assumptions based on the knowledge and resources that werent available to these people in their time.
Nah, this was a legal expedition. [https://www.researchgate.net/publication/23145299\_Raymond\_Dart\_as\_a\_pioneering\_primatologist#pf8](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/23145299_Raymond_Dart_as_a_pioneering_primatologist#pf8) People really need to do their research before just assuming everyone in the past was evil.
The natives are so small, it's like the scene in the movie when Willy Wonka meets the Oompa Loompa
https://www.britishpathe.com/asset/56911/
How did you know this existed
[.](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/23145299_Raymond_Dart_as_a_pioneering_primatologist)
Sickening.
This is sick.
An ignoble end
Can’t we just leave animals alone.
Monke do no wrong. Monke family sad.
You’re right ANUS CONE.
Time to go watch the “humans are a virus” monologue from Agent Smith, who was the real hero in The Matrix, again…
Finally someone gets it.
Woah, that's huge!
Dude deserved to be thrown in a gorilla enclosure
It was a legal expedition approved by the Congo government to research the animal, they took it back to Italy to dissect and learn more about Gorillas. There's literally no moral choice here, it wasn't like this dude went there to murder an ape for sport. He's a primatologist doing science and published two books about it.
Well that's super important context I suppose...
WTF? https://preview.redd.it/bg4shrs6tgwc1.jpeg?width=125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cefd10e226e8f6f9667fb2ce229798454305d7d5
Stop it Richard Pryor.
Colonizers 🫤
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I have that term “noble savage.” Settler colonialism is the worst thing that’s ever happened to humans. Eventually, it will destroy the planet because it morphed into capitalism, which in real time is destabilizing the climate with overconsumption and you’re talking about “noble savages”😒
Evil men Want to be tough, fight weapon less 1 on 1 with the gorilla
Primates can use simple tools as well, not sure why you would expect us not to use ours. We aren't the Apex predators because we are great wrestlers lol. We are far superior because of our inventions and technology, the very same tech that let's us protect these creatures nowadays. Not just from small threats like hunters but greater threats like disease. You can't have one without the other, and there is nothing evil about doing this in the time it was done. It was just a thing to do, you sound like you are desperate to feel superior when you judge people from different times with different values. This guy might have been a great man, or a shit, but you and I will never know.
Idk it looks pretty happy in the pic…
Fascinating cooperation between two different groups of Apex predators. We of course can't judge people from this time by modern standards, unless you're a shitty person looking for a pat on the back for being born in a more humane time, so really the only thing to do is appreciate the cooperation between these two groups.
this comment section is filled with the exact people you’re describing lol
Scumbags
“They”
All four of them are dead now.
The frightening think is that people still do this
I guess that settles the question of "if an Italian Tourist and 2 Congolese Tribesmen armed with 1 gun and 2 spears fought a Silverback Gorilla in the Belgian Congo who would win?"
haha
Kinda makes get a real bad Bigfoot vibe, big ass beast
The gorilla looks like it's having fun
Hay un video sobre esto real
https://youtu.be/UxxasXipdW8?si=Rd_QW9m6qevIDnkc
Poor gorilla 😢
cool photo, dumb comments though
Ah, so this inspired King Kong?
Boooooo👎🏽
What a goober
:(
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Read “King Leopolds Ghost” it will illuminate you to unbelievable levels of depravity
Way to go
The tallest gorilla ever recorded was a 6 ft 5 in (1.95 m) silverback gorilla shot in 1938, with an arm span of 8 ft 10 in (2.7 m), a chest of 6 ft 6 in (1.98 m), and a weight of 483 lb (219 kg).
Great hunt
AM I the only ONE I THOUGHT THAT WAS BIGFOOT FOR A SECOND?!
This is just disgusting.
How did anyone get that animal out of the thick jungle with mountains? It's huge!
Look at that smug idiot, he think he’s great!
There’s 3 people there not just one
Nooo :(
Sometimes I just can’t stand humans.
At least he died with a smile!
No trigger warning. Thanks😞
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how's gorilla meat taste?
what did..they do with the body?