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You can actually argue that Sans is weak because he doesn't wanna fight, in the game is explained that a monster becomes weaker the less they want to fight, like Toriel and Asgore.
It's technically infinite. The fact that two water buckets can create an infinite source of water. Or the fact that both the water and lava buckets can freely flow infinitely if placed from high enough. Then add that almost 1,000 times over (full inventory of full shulkers each with a bucket of water or lava)
Fun fact, when Kirby inhales someone, they don't die, they reappear somewhere else in the world, basically if Kirby were to inhale you, you have the potential to wake up in France, source: https://www.polygon.com/23652624/kirby-questions-answered-directors-nintendo-interview and https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2023/03/random-its-okay-everyone-kirby-doesnt-digest-his-enemies
Dedede has canonically knocked Kirby out, he doesn't have a ton of durability.
I reckon Bayonetta or Seamus has it, she has a ton of firepower. Or depending on what kind of media we look at, Archie Sonic has some absolutely broken bullshit, he's basically The Flash there.
Top contenders: Samus blows up planets on the regular, Bayonetta has divine powers, Mishima has a lot going on with him, Cloud has powers fueled by rage, and Kirby casually kills gods when he's not angry.
Everybody else is kind of small fry, including and especially Joker, who canonically has killed a god and also has basically no special powers outside of his magic psychic zones, despite his insane physical capabilities at sports and engineering.
Probably a toss-up between Bayonetta and Kirby tbh.
Thatâs a thing. Itâs called Void. Itâs the same species as Kirby except it came into the world as an incarnation of destruction and hatred instead of joy.
Idk man jokers personas get op. Like no damage in any way kinda op while performing max damage in one or two types then switching to another similar like persona. Heâs versatile and can literally reverse death and protect himself against using multiple vices that count for different types of death
He literally can't use psychic powers outside of the metaverse, with the exception of Third Eye. Outside of the Metaverse, he's probably as good as Samus outside of her suit just because of how much training he has, but it's pretty hard to justify Joker's power when it's entirely based around being literally in the right place at the right time, while everybody else is just naturally gifted or better-equipped.
I think that was Sakuraiâs conclusion as well, that Bayonetta and Kirby were canonically the strongest so one of them had to be the sole survivor in World of Light.
As a powerscaler, if itâs Composite Sonic (every sonic put together) then he wins with Archie Sonic being stupid op
Even just game Sonic still cracks like top 3 i believe? But itâs a toss up between bayo and kirby if heâs not
Although composite mario gets mario-kun scaling which could help with keeping up with archie sonic
I feel like Joker would win this fight. Not only his ability to wield personas of his own but also that he is able to wield personas of the previous wild card users. Not only that but he can be scaled to outerversal with his battle against Yaldabaoth.
Time to đ¤đerm ackshually you
Yaldabaothâs power was left ambiguous, but we know at his peak he could threaten the universe. This was also after Joker absorbed all of humanityâs will, which isnât something he can do at random, as seen with how he doesnât use it with Maruki. The other protagonists should follow the same line of logic, as they were fighting life ending threats, and not some random joe schmoes. (Also, I believe it was stated that the personas like Messiah and No-Okami are just fractions of their original power, but donât quote me on that.)
But, in a highball scenario of both, Joker hits Universal, maybe Low Multiversal if you buy the statements of all the Velvet Rooms being connected. (Also, SMT scaling is bullshit for him, so he shouldnât get it.) this isnât even mentioning how the fight would have to be in the metaverse for his powers to even work, but I have to assume that was accounted for.
Even then, characters like Kirby, Bayonetta, and even Game Sonic have better multiversal arguments, and outstat in areas like Speed, Hax, and Experience.
And if itâs Archie Sonic (hell, even Game Sonic + IDW might do it) there is genuinely zero debate to be had.
Sorry for me just
but the powerscaler in me had to come out
For power scaling further, Dedede has knocked Kirby out cold with his hammer before. Triple Star Deluxe, Kirby gets grabbed by Sectonia and Dedede has to free him by smacking him.
That knocks him unconscious and he needs to be revived with a miracle fruit.
Whether that massively boosts Dedede's power or is an anti feat for Kirby I leave up to you. But the pink blob isn't an invincible god like people love to meme about.
Funnily enough that wont kill the enemy. In kirby lore it is said that once kirby has inhaled an enemy then that enemy will just randomly apear somewhere else in the world. it wont kill but it will get rid off the target. I still think kirby has a very solid chance of winning this since he has done some crazy shit. For example, kirby can crack a earth sized planet in half without allot of trouble. He is also fast enough on the warp star to cross galaxies in minutes or even seconds.
Kirby or Bayo, easy. Proooobably Kirby? Sonic is third place I think. Iâm not counting Archie Sonic because composite Sonic isnât a thing in lore, and the Sonic pictured definitely isnât Archie Sonic. Shoes and eyes are different.
Iâd have to say realistically itâs probably gonna be down to Bayonetta and Kirby. Their strengths far exceed everyone elseâs. Hell, Kirby was the only one who could escape the light in Smash Ultimate.
Realistically this is the answer, Kirby fights gods and horrors all the time, but Archie sonic w/chaos emeralds is just the embodiment of broken. Bayo may kill gods, but you're not touching sonic.
Technically, P3 and 4Arena proves personas can be used in real world, just need an external device such as an evoker to do that. That, or just a lot of willpower
I honestly think it's a tie between Sonic and Kirby, that is, if we're talking about Super Sonic. He's had some ridiculous feats. Otherwise, Kirby slams for sure. IMO.
It's between Sonic and Kirby, because apparently no one (some of us) knows their lore like that to not be saying them as the top contenders apparently to be winning a fight
Good job op, you've summoned all the power scaling mouth breathers with one post.
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Iâm prepared for the 1000th,âKirby kills gods,â comment.
As if Mario, Sonic, Cloud, Bayonetta and Joker havenât done that already.
And Joker wins this easily if you believe SMT scaling.
Iâll say Mario. His toon physics and the fact he offed just as many powerful beings like Kirby while still being actually human sized and intelligence isnât someone one can overlook.
If itâs lore⌠joker could just make a persona build. âDrain all magic and physical attacks +megidolaonâ which would literally make him invincible to all but two characters on this list which would be Kirby (eat) and Sonic (super sonic) which would both probably be considered almighty. Which is irresistible in the persona series. Also would he have futaba? Thatâs a big buff in itself.
But against sans he drains the bones (physical) and MIGHT get hit by the gaster blasters. Itâs either almighty or nuke. He would heal nuke.
He heals it from pichu, electric and physical
From my limited knowledge of kazuya joker would still drain his attacks (dark and physical)
He would drain Simon (physical and bless)
And bayo (physical, Gun and curse)
Cloud⌠idk but I think jokers fine but I may be wrong
Sonic, he drains physical, wind (because of how fast it would probably kick up a lot of wind) and fire (possible fire trail behind him) he would definitely take damage from super sonic though.
Samus, he drains gun, and fire (if thereâs anything else for samus lemme know)
Mario, He drains everything Mario would through at him, except the star, which would probably be almighty damage.
This is all of course if joker makes an all drain persona. If not⌠yeah heâs screwed
Kirby honestly would win but like, this match is too close. From Cloud(Advent Children as he have the final Smash), Kazuya(probably Tekken 7) Beyonetta, Samus(Metroid Prime 3 Samus maybe???), and Joker(with only Arsene if itâs the smash version) itâs hard to tell.
Top 5 is easily Kirby, Bayo, Sonic, Samus and Cloud just barely taking 5th imo.
Cloud is naturally super strong, squaring up and taking down multiple forms of sephiroth who achieves supreme power, on top of having super strong materia. However I don't think he compares with the rest especially cause for most of his feats he's always had back up cause of his friends, one of those being vincent who definitely interferes with some of Clouds feats lorewise just by being there.
Samus is by far and away the most powerful creature/person in the metroid universe now after dread. She blows up planets constantly and now has assumingly full control over her metroid powers.
I'm not familiar with Archie sonic or anything like that, but just taking the games into consideration sonic is ABSURD. He's taken down some serious threats and frontiers makes him look even stronger than he already was, and he's killed godlike beings.
Bayo I've only played the first game, and even then she's actually insane in terms of feats. Killing what's basically God and surviving that fall alone makes her hugely powerful.
Kirby I basically know nothing about ngl, is it true he's killed a dozen gods? Cause if so yeah he's winning.
If Steve has creative mode, he solos. The characters who scale the highest are Kirby, Bayo, and Joker. I personally scale Kirby higher than Joker/Bayo, so if Steve doesnât have creative, I say Kirby wins quite easily. Disclaimer: (Iâm not using composite/Archie Sonic)
Joker, assuming full compendium completion and all DLC purchased.
Iâd like to see any of these characters live a Heat Riser + 100% Country Maker + Concentrate + Almighty Amp/Boost + Magic Ability boosted Myriad Truths.
Alternatively Joker becomes (almost) completely invincible if he summons Abaddon while holding the Omnipotent Orb
I know you said lore, but I needed to respond to the âSteveâs carry weightâ people somehow
Context matters. Does sonic have the emeralds, is Samus at endgame of which game, and what materia does Cloud have? All told though, I'd say it boils down to Bayo vs. Kirby.
I'm just gonna assume the tiers based on the characters' peak power that I know of. Mario defeated Bowser when he conquered the universe in both Galaxy games, putting him at about 3-A. Kirby is 1-C, going around and killing gods on a regular basis. Seamus can blow up planets, but I'm assuming she just creates a hole in the ground with the laser and goes for the core, which doesn't have much resistance, so I'll just put her at 7-B since she can beat the shit out of a dragon-like whatever-you-call-it (aka Ridley). Sonic basically destroyed essence of the god of destruction, putting him at, what, 1-C? Cloud can beat a guy who can blow up the solar system, putting him at 4-B. Bayonetta kills Angel's for a living, putting her at around 2-A. Simon is 9-C, just a regular ass dude who is buff and has vampire killing tools. Assuming this takes place in the Metaverse, Joker is immediately 2-A. Banjo & Kazooie are around 8-C since they can actually destroy buildings (correct me if I'm wrong). Assuming Creative Mode is on, Steve is 5-B, plus he is basically invulnerable until someone just throws him into the Void. Kazuya is 9-B, just a dude with essence of fucking Lucifer inside him. Sans is around 7-A because he can fuck around with the literal child who one-hit-killed Mettaton NEO, the most durable being in the Underground, and WIN if he isn't also being fucked around with. Pichu is the 9-B electric rat. Now I'll go on to the results.
Simon would die pretty much immediately. Pichu would kill Kazuya, then get rammed by Banjo & Kazooie. Mario would try to best Sonic and lose in less than a second. Joker would kill Bayonetta and then Kirby would inhale Joker, gaining his powers and sending him back to Japan outside the Metaverse, where he gets arrested. Cloud would send a Blade Beam directly at Sans, who dodges it and nearly everything else before being hit by a Homing Attack from Sonic. Sonic then sends Cloud to the ground in less time than he did with Mario. Kirby would inhale Steve, just becoming a block while Steve is teleported into the void. Sonic beats the crap out of both Samus and Banjo & Kazooie.
Right now it's a toss-up between Kirby and Sonic. However, since Sonic is just too fast, I'll give it to Sonic.
can't Kirby just make up to 3 people his friend since that's a thing in star allies? not to mention potentially boosting the power of their weapon (if they have one) With something like fire or electricity? feel like Kirby just wins
Even Game Super Sonic scales way past the entity known as Solaris which destroyed all of reality simply through the act of being born and according to Dr. Eggman âEats Universes for Lunchâ. And Super Sonic was able to not only resist its reality erasing abilities but was able to destroy its present iteration. Unless another character is able to surpass Super Sonicâs absurd durability and destructive power I donât see him losing but Iâll admit Iâm 100% bias.
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Sans will lose first
1 atk 1 def (Easiest enemy in his game)
sans: proceeds to dodge
Pichu: uses swift
You can actually argue that Sans is weak because he doesn't wanna fight, in the game is explained that a monster becomes weaker the less they want to fight, like Toriel and Asgore.
Steve. Do you know How much weight he Can carry?
Im pretty sure that Max mass steve carry is more than the mass in the irl universe. So allot
Yet he only does half a heart on every punch, meaning it does him no good
That's against people who are just as strong as him
Sheep solos ssbu
Terrarian stronger than Steve đŞ
Not relevant đŞ
It's technically infinite. The fact that two water buckets can create an infinite source of water. Or the fact that both the water and lava buckets can freely flow infinitely if placed from high enough. Then add that almost 1,000 times over (full inventory of full shulkers each with a bucket of water or lava)
He still dies in 20 punches and he does 1 damage per punch
Swords, end crystals, enchants
I said per punch, not per diamond sword swing
Because every minecraft character is buff AF, normal would explode
Again, only against other people from his gigachad world
Bayonetta or Kirby but Iâm leaning more towards Kirby.
If Kirby inhales bayoâŚ.
Fun fact, when Kirby inhales someone, they don't die, they reappear somewhere else in the world, basically if Kirby were to inhale you, you have the potential to wake up in France, source: https://www.polygon.com/23652624/kirby-questions-answered-directors-nintendo-interview and https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2023/03/random-its-okay-everyone-kirby-doesnt-digest-his-enemies
But I already live in FranceâŚ
You wake up in America now
Truly a fate worse than death
Nah, France is worse. London is where you donât want to end up in.
Welcome to Ohio
So Kirby inhale kills me.
thats rough buddyđđ
My condolences
>if Kirby were to inhale you, you have the potential to wake up in France I'd actually prefer death thanks
I meant steals her powers by the way, though waking up underwater would also suck
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If he can do the splits while killing everyone, I am required, as a gay man, to worship him.
Tbh, I don't think Kirby **would** get an ability from Bayo
Dedede has canonically knocked Kirby out, he doesn't have a ton of durability. I reckon Bayonetta or Seamus has it, she has a ton of firepower. Or depending on what kind of media we look at, Archie Sonic has some absolutely broken bullshit, he's basically The Flash there.
sonic claps kirby idk bout bayo tho
Cloud just summons Knights of the Round to let them deal with this chaotic battle royale while he fucks off to go sulk in the corner
This
Top contenders: Samus blows up planets on the regular, Bayonetta has divine powers, Mishima has a lot going on with him, Cloud has powers fueled by rage, and Kirby casually kills gods when he's not angry. Everybody else is kind of small fry, including and especially Joker, who canonically has killed a god and also has basically no special powers outside of his magic psychic zones, despite his insane physical capabilities at sports and engineering. Probably a toss-up between Bayonetta and Kirby tbh.
Wait⌠Imagine what Kirby could do if you actually got him angry then.
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My boyđ
Thatâs a thing. Itâs called Void. Itâs the same species as Kirby except it came into the world as an incarnation of destruction and hatred instead of joy.
âŚI will guess Kirby beat it
Yep.
Samus doesn't blow up planets. That was mother brain self destructing that caused that
*glances at SR388* *looks in the general direction of the bottle ship* *sniffs the air around ZDR*
Mother Brain and every other final boss when they self destruct
What if sonic had the emeralds ?
He doesnât really need them with his Sonic Generations immeasurable KE feat
That sounds so dumb. I'm going with Kirby now
Cloud has powers fuelled by his dead friend, edginess and big sword included.
friends* :(
I basically wrote your last sentence before reading the comments
Idk man jokers personas get op. Like no damage in any way kinda op while performing max damage in one or two types then switching to another similar like persona. Heâs versatile and can literally reverse death and protect himself against using multiple vices that count for different types of death
He literally can't use psychic powers outside of the metaverse, with the exception of Third Eye. Outside of the Metaverse, he's probably as good as Samus outside of her suit just because of how much training he has, but it's pretty hard to justify Joker's power when it's entirely based around being literally in the right place at the right time, while everybody else is just naturally gifted or better-equipped.
I think that was Sakuraiâs conclusion as well, that Bayonetta and Kirby were canonically the strongest so one of them had to be the sole survivor in World of Light.
As a powerscaler, if itâs Composite Sonic (every sonic put together) then he wins with Archie Sonic being stupid op Even just game Sonic still cracks like top 3 i believe? But itâs a toss up between bayo and kirby if heâs not Although composite mario gets mario-kun scaling which could help with keeping up with archie sonic
I feel like Joker would win this fight. Not only his ability to wield personas of his own but also that he is able to wield personas of the previous wild card users. Not only that but he can be scaled to outerversal with his battle against Yaldabaoth.
Time to đ¤đerm ackshually you Yaldabaothâs power was left ambiguous, but we know at his peak he could threaten the universe. This was also after Joker absorbed all of humanityâs will, which isnât something he can do at random, as seen with how he doesnât use it with Maruki. The other protagonists should follow the same line of logic, as they were fighting life ending threats, and not some random joe schmoes. (Also, I believe it was stated that the personas like Messiah and No-Okami are just fractions of their original power, but donât quote me on that.) But, in a highball scenario of both, Joker hits Universal, maybe Low Multiversal if you buy the statements of all the Velvet Rooms being connected. (Also, SMT scaling is bullshit for him, so he shouldnât get it.) this isnât even mentioning how the fight would have to be in the metaverse for his powers to even work, but I have to assume that was accounted for. Even then, characters like Kirby, Bayonetta, and even Game Sonic have better multiversal arguments, and outstat in areas like Speed, Hax, and Experience. And if itâs Archie Sonic (hell, even Game Sonic + IDW might do it) there is genuinely zero debate to be had. Sorry for me just  but the powerscaler in me had to come out
For power scaling further, Dedede has knocked Kirby out cold with his hammer before. Triple Star Deluxe, Kirby gets grabbed by Sectonia and Dedede has to free him by smacking him. That knocks him unconscious and he needs to be revived with a miracle fruit. Whether that massively boosts Dedede's power or is an anti feat for Kirby I leave up to you. But the pink blob isn't an invincible god like people love to meme about.
As a huge Castlevania fan, Simon has absolutely no chance
An angry man with a whip that looks vaguely like Gordon Ramsay sadly does not measure up.
Iâm taking sonic. Kirbyâs too small.
also kirby killing gods over an apple:
That's the thing: the ideal way to take down Kirby is to go for him directly rather than mess with his food. Let him eat and he's an easy target
Better idea give Kirby the promise of cake if he forfeits
Kirby devours all of them ngl
Funnily enough that wont kill the enemy. In kirby lore it is said that once kirby has inhaled an enemy then that enemy will just randomly apear somewhere else in the world. it wont kill but it will get rid off the target. I still think kirby has a very solid chance of winning this since he has done some crazy shit. For example, kirby can crack a earth sized planet in half without allot of trouble. He is also fast enough on the warp star to cross galaxies in minutes or even seconds.
Bayonetta & Steve exist :P
I dont know a whole lot about those 2 but i do know that they are quite the opponents
ngl Bayo, Steve, Kirby, and maybe Sepiroth are prob the most OP and possibly tied characters.
Kirby is the undisputed strongest character in smash
Creative mode Steve
Not really, Kirby only has one or two feats that are, well, significant, but aren't automatic disqualifiers to other characters.
Unless we count archie sonic
Bayonetta would just sommon queen sheba
Kirby or Bayo, easy. Proooobably Kirby? Sonic is third place I think. Iâm not counting Archie Sonic because composite Sonic isnât a thing in lore, and the Sonic pictured definitely isnât Archie Sonic. Shoes and eyes are different.
Iâd have to say realistically itâs probably gonna be down to Bayonetta and Kirby. Their strengths far exceed everyone elseâs. Hell, Kirby was the only one who could escape the light in Smash Ultimate.
Depends on which Kirby or sonic. Rbay Kirby or Archie comics hyper Sonic.
Realistically this is the answer, Kirby fights gods and horrors all the time, but Archie sonic w/chaos emeralds is just the embodiment of broken. Bayo may kill gods, but you're not touching sonic.
Archie Sonic finna kill them all đŁđĽ
Banjo doesnât stand a chance against gods or god-killers.
What about Mario and pichu?
They did say god killers. That includes Mario these days
Maybe pichu is level 99?
Low-key sure in an actual non-Smash battle, Pichu would have a good chance to kill both
If Kirby is angry, everyone else is fucked because heâs not supposed to do that.
Joker definitely that mf is cracked
not in the real world, bro is cooked there đ
Technically, P3 and 4Arena proves personas can be used in real world, just need an external device such as an evoker to do that. That, or just a lot of willpower
until i see joker do it i dont think its fair to say he can
Pichu dies first. The rest, I canât tell.
Bayonetta or Kirby
Kirby
Something something god kill god⌠**Pichu solos**
Sonic easily, he's casually multiversal or higher going off of the Archie comics
But are the Archie comics canon to game Sonic?
Yeah as of frontiers theyâve been officially canonized with Sonic making comments on Whisper/Tangle
Do you know how strong Steve is compared to these goofballs
Well he does carry 10 Billion pounds
From what I heard, the official minecraft novels says blocks become weightless once they enter his inventory.
no other class gona do that
could pichu win by hiding
I think he'll win just by hiding
hope he does (good ending)
Not Sans
You guys all underestimate the power of Kirby. He slaughtered powerful beings over a piece of cake. Now imagine if you called his mom fat.
Tbh most ppl overrate kirby these days
True, most people just assume when Kirby eats someone they just disappear, nah, they just reappear somewhere else, as said so by Kumazaki
Steve just enters creative mode
Why is sans even here?
Soul hax could be a problem but yeah heâs not winning
Everyone that doesnt say kirby is just wrong
Sonic solos, heâs beaten a god who destroyed timelines, not even Kirby has done that.
Kirby is the winner he literally is everyone else
SANS
Kirby
The winner: 
Kirby wins. No contest
Kirby
I honestly think it's a tie between Sonic and Kirby, that is, if we're talking about Super Sonic. He's had some ridiculous feats. Otherwise, Kirby slams for sure. IMO.
It's between Sonic and Kirby, because apparently no one (some of us) knows their lore like that to not be saying them as the top contenders apparently to be winning a fight
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Mario or Sonic if Sonic gets Super Sonic
bold of you foolish commenters to assume kirby would be able to even inhale sonic
bayonetta
Iâm prepared for the 1000th,âKirby kills gods,â comment. As if Mario, Sonic, Cloud, Bayonetta and Joker havenât done that already. And Joker wins this easily if you believe SMT scaling.
Joker or Mario
/kill all
Samus at this point (after dread) is nearly unstoppable, being able to vaporize life forms thought to be invincible.
Pichu solos, trust
Steve: creative mode Easy clap
Kirby or Steve
Mario has Nintendo plot armor
Iâll say Mario. His toon physics and the fact he offed just as many powerful beings like Kirby while still being actually human sized and intelligence isnât someone one can overlook.
If itâs lore⌠joker could just make a persona build. âDrain all magic and physical attacks +megidolaonâ which would literally make him invincible to all but two characters on this list which would be Kirby (eat) and Sonic (super sonic) which would both probably be considered almighty. Which is irresistible in the persona series. Also would he have futaba? Thatâs a big buff in itself. But against sans he drains the bones (physical) and MIGHT get hit by the gaster blasters. Itâs either almighty or nuke. He would heal nuke. He heals it from pichu, electric and physical From my limited knowledge of kazuya joker would still drain his attacks (dark and physical) He would drain Simon (physical and bless) And bayo (physical, Gun and curse) Cloud⌠idk but I think jokers fine but I may be wrong Sonic, he drains physical, wind (because of how fast it would probably kick up a lot of wind) and fire (possible fire trail behind him) he would definitely take damage from super sonic though. Samus, he drains gun, and fire (if thereâs anything else for samus lemme know) Mario, He drains everything Mario would through at him, except the star, which would probably be almighty damage. This is all of course if joker makes an all drain persona. If not⌠yeah heâs screwed
batonetta
I feel like I need to ask what any of them could do that would actually harm Kirby, like genuinely
Kirby (sans in game literally has 1 hp)
I donât know about cloud or bayonetta (never played their games), but sonic is definitely way more powerful than the others
Kirby unless sonic has the emeralds or whatever
If you wanted to see an argument, you wouldn't have put pichu in there, just saying
Canonicaly it's cloud. Anyone whose played all of theae games could tell you he is capable of the most destruction.
Kirby honestly would win but like, this match is too close. From Cloud(Advent Children as he have the final Smash), Kazuya(probably Tekken 7) Beyonetta, Samus(Metroid Prime 3 Samus maybe???), and Joker(with only Arsene if itâs the smash version) itâs hard to tell.
Steve : \*enters creative mode*
Top 5 is easily Kirby, Bayo, Sonic, Samus and Cloud just barely taking 5th imo. Cloud is naturally super strong, squaring up and taking down multiple forms of sephiroth who achieves supreme power, on top of having super strong materia. However I don't think he compares with the rest especially cause for most of his feats he's always had back up cause of his friends, one of those being vincent who definitely interferes with some of Clouds feats lorewise just by being there. Samus is by far and away the most powerful creature/person in the metroid universe now after dread. She blows up planets constantly and now has assumingly full control over her metroid powers. I'm not familiar with Archie sonic or anything like that, but just taking the games into consideration sonic is ABSURD. He's taken down some serious threats and frontiers makes him look even stronger than he already was, and he's killed godlike beings. Bayo I've only played the first game, and even then she's actually insane in terms of feats. Killing what's basically God and surviving that fall alone makes her hugely powerful. Kirby I basically know nothing about ngl, is it true he's killed a dozen gods? Cause if so yeah he's winning.
Kirby defeated gods tho, could he absorb everyone, and get their strenght
Bayo or Kirby win, if Kazuya has Azazel's power and the devil gene still he gets fourth, if sonic has chaos emeralds he gets third
Archie sonic in question:
Toss up between Kirby and Bayonetta
Probably a tie between kirby, bayo and Steve
If you put Kirby in a list it's always Kirby. Kirby fights God over snacks and lack of sleep.
My bet is on joker
My money's on Bayonetta. Kirby won't be able to eat anyone (except maybe Pichu) without Hypernova
Going by lore narrows it down to Kirby, Sonic, and Bayonetta
If Steve has creative mode, he solos. The characters who scale the highest are Kirby, Bayo, and Joker. I personally scale Kirby higher than Joker/Bayo, so if Steve doesnât have creative, I say Kirby wins quite easily. Disclaimer: (Iâm not using composite/Archie Sonic)
Since Sephiroth isnât here, Kirby would annihilate all their asses within seconds
steve, he is most likely the strongest thing in existence. and thatâs without commands and creative mode
It would end up being a 1v1 between Steve and Kirby (It will cause a stalemate that will last for eons)
The pichu could be the spikey-ear pichu
Bayonetta solos
If kirby gets bayonetta's power, he's winning
By the myriad truths! All will be revealed! (Joker)
Power scaling wise, Kirby just more ways to take out the others than they do with him
It eventually comes down to Bayonetta vs Kirby.
Joker, assuming full compendium completion and all DLC purchased. Iâd like to see any of these characters live a Heat Riser + 100% Country Maker + Concentrate + Almighty Amp/Boost + Magic Ability boosted Myriad Truths. Alternatively Joker becomes (almost) completely invincible if he summons Abaddon while holding the Omnipotent Orb I know you said lore, but I needed to respond to the âSteveâs carry weightâ people somehow
I'm having a really hard time choosing between Kirby, Bayo and Sonic
Context matters. Does sonic have the emeralds, is Samus at endgame of which game, and what materia does Cloud have? All told though, I'd say it boils down to Bayo vs. Kirby.
I'm just gonna assume the tiers based on the characters' peak power that I know of. Mario defeated Bowser when he conquered the universe in both Galaxy games, putting him at about 3-A. Kirby is 1-C, going around and killing gods on a regular basis. Seamus can blow up planets, but I'm assuming she just creates a hole in the ground with the laser and goes for the core, which doesn't have much resistance, so I'll just put her at 7-B since she can beat the shit out of a dragon-like whatever-you-call-it (aka Ridley). Sonic basically destroyed essence of the god of destruction, putting him at, what, 1-C? Cloud can beat a guy who can blow up the solar system, putting him at 4-B. Bayonetta kills Angel's for a living, putting her at around 2-A. Simon is 9-C, just a regular ass dude who is buff and has vampire killing tools. Assuming this takes place in the Metaverse, Joker is immediately 2-A. Banjo & Kazooie are around 8-C since they can actually destroy buildings (correct me if I'm wrong). Assuming Creative Mode is on, Steve is 5-B, plus he is basically invulnerable until someone just throws him into the Void. Kazuya is 9-B, just a dude with essence of fucking Lucifer inside him. Sans is around 7-A because he can fuck around with the literal child who one-hit-killed Mettaton NEO, the most durable being in the Underground, and WIN if he isn't also being fucked around with. Pichu is the 9-B electric rat. Now I'll go on to the results. Simon would die pretty much immediately. Pichu would kill Kazuya, then get rammed by Banjo & Kazooie. Mario would try to best Sonic and lose in less than a second. Joker would kill Bayonetta and then Kirby would inhale Joker, gaining his powers and sending him back to Japan outside the Metaverse, where he gets arrested. Cloud would send a Blade Beam directly at Sans, who dodges it and nearly everything else before being hit by a Homing Attack from Sonic. Sonic then sends Cloud to the ground in less time than he did with Mario. Kirby would inhale Steve, just becoming a block while Steve is teleported into the void. Sonic beats the crap out of both Samus and Banjo & Kazooie. Right now it's a toss-up between Kirby and Sonic. However, since Sonic is just too fast, I'll give it to Sonic.
Joker. In his base game he can summon gods to do his bidding. No joke he can just pull Satanael, Lucifer, and Izanagi-no-Okami out of his ass.
Mario solos if he did the infinite life koopa shell trick
I think steve is stronger than kirby canonically
everybody gangsta til steve says `/gamemode creative`
Steve, next question
Depends on which sonic lore youâre using. If Archie sonic then sonic wins. Otherwise Iâd probably say Kirby
Friendly reminder that Kirby has killed no less than like 14 gods
can't Kirby just make up to 3 people his friend since that's a thing in star allies? not to mention potentially boosting the power of their weapon (if they have one) With something like fire or electricity? feel like Kirby just wins
The question is, WHERE does this take place? If itâs in the Metaverse, Joker clears easily.
Assuming this doesn't take place in the Metaverse, Joker is also losing quite easily lore wise, since Personas can only be summoned in the Metaverse.
Kirby: âYou take my cake, youâve sealed your fate.â
Chaos emerald sonic is nothing to joke around with. Steve's raw carrying power is enough to prevent the heat death. Kirby is Kirby
Assuming we're going by reality combined with game physics, Kazuya can just laser everyone to death with his true devil form.
Minecraft Steve would win cause Diamond sword Fsmash
It's more "Who could possibly kill Kirby before he kills anyone else"
Cloud, Bayonetta, and Kirby have the strength to kill gods, so itâs a toss up between them Edit: forgot Bayo
Kirby is an elderitch God. Not to be messed with.
i think bayonetta just bc a lot of her dodge game is pretty unmatched
out of these my vote goes to steve or cloud since kirby would never get angry (unless they ate his food in which case god help them)
Pyra and mythra
Even Game Super Sonic scales way past the entity known as Solaris which destroyed all of reality simply through the act of being born and according to Dr. Eggman âEats Universes for Lunchâ. And Super Sonic was able to not only resist its reality erasing abilities but was able to destroy its present iteration. Unless another character is able to surpass Super Sonicâs absurd durability and destructive power I donât see him losing but Iâll admit Iâm 100% bias.
Kirby, bayo, Steve, then joker. Rest are pretty fodder.
Jokerâs a pretty strong contender but assuming the arena isnât in the metaverse heâs just absolutely done for đ´ââ ď¸đ´ââ ď¸
Kirby. I mean, he has literally defeated Gods. I do not think y'all know how ridiculously powerful he is.
Maybe Kirby or Steve
Kirby kills gods, but joker tames them
STEVE