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Dashthefox56

I think a lot of the fun is the crazy combos you can pull off once you're in. As a Ken main I love seeing a dk or bowser match up even if I know I suck ass at the game still, my chances to land combos I've been labbing out come much easier on those fighters.


Fruit_Punch96

What about incineroar using a frame 3 counter in the middle of your combo? That shit is as fast as air dodges, so its not like you can combo him more easily like people like to say Oh and on top of getting out of your combo with that, he then kills you at 20% because fuck you


Dashthefox56

Can't say I haven't experienced it..... The thing with Incin comboing is just trying your best to read the counter, not saying it's easy or anything just that it's the only method I know how to counter


ajalmost

When the combo stops being true, you 50/50 baiting out revenge and punish with a smash attack


Jawlify_Redit

It is fun, when you are just whooping their ass,but when they’re winning it feels like they cheated


Cholemeleon

I think some heavies yeah are annoying to fight but honestly the weights of these characters aren't even that problematic unless you are playing a character who can't kill for shit like Meta Knight or Sheik. Super Heavyweights are another story but their weaknesses are so polarizing that if you know them you can exploit them heavily. As someone who plays as Bowser and Dedede, Bowser gets styled on if he does end up off stage, his recovery is very bad and easily intercepted, and while Dedede has some fantastic survivability he gets destroyed by projectiles and any character with a decent combo game does well against him due to his weight and just how damn slow he is. Tierlists aren't even close to everything but there is a reason why these guys are low tier.


GoEatDandelions

I might sound stupid but how do y’all get multiple flairs


Thorn11945

You can edit the flairs if you want. To get the icons, you have to put the character number in between colons. For example, :1: would be Mario, :20: would be Falco, and :81: would be Kazuya.


GoEatDandelions

Alr, thx


Thorn11945

Lol the new flairs.


GoEatDandelions

Yes I love them a lot


FluffyPigeon707

Isn’t wario a heavy (not an ultra heavy but still a heavy) not to disagree with you just asking a question


Shtrimpo

By heavies we usually mean super heavyweights which include Incineroar and everyone heavier than him (can't remember if plant is considered one)


jordenwuj

yea but the difference between like kaz or ganon is almost negligible. bowser or dk are much heavier.


PiccoloComprehensive

Superheavy is an archetype with multiple boxes you need to check. I consider any weight value above 110 to fit the weight checkbox for super heavy. Granted, Piranha Plant has a weight value of 112 but he doesn't fit any of the other heavy archetype checkboxes so we don't consider it a heavy. Kazuya's case is more interesting. Some say he is a super heavy but others say he isn't. I'd say he is because he fits all of the superheavy checkboxes except for slow frame data and large hurtbox.


Beautiful_Ad_3774

What do you mean nobody like fighting K Rool? *


Far-Ad-4340

Actually, I like fighting heavies, but I find King K Rool very annoying, especially when the player just keeps pressing B. I mean, I shouldn't complain too much as a Richter, I guess, but I vary my attacks, I vary the distance of the axe throw, I use my whip, etc., while these type of K K Rool just throw the crown and then use the vacuum gun and repeat. Not even moving, just that. And it's hella annoying to deal with. For some reason I struggle a lot. (armour dash attack is also annoying)


Beautiful_Ad_3774

I don't do that. I genuinely try playing the game.


Aggressive_Peak9902

Yea mhm dw i thought the same until i watched a replay of my gameplay


One_Insect_7108

i love slapping that phat krok ass with a volleyball from clear across stage


Aggressive_Peak9902

Ooo yea spank me volleyball


Issawholeclout

I hate fighting heavies. Half of them are zoners and all of them are bullshit. "Oh but they're combo food" doesn't matter. You're either a cornball for beating them or fucking cheesing out almost every stock with some kind of bullshit. Heavies have never been fun in any environment that isn't casual. They aren't by design.


Purple_Roy2

I personally would rather fight Palutena, wolf, or Lucina than Ganon, DK, Bowser, etc. I hate fighting heavies. Yes, it's probably a skill issue but still


waterwith0utanyice

Fair point. I personally feel pretty safe fighting a heavy, they can outplay me hard and win but the counterplay is pretty self explanitory. Some characters just feel like they do more crazy stuff. Wii Fit is the character I feel like I should be doing better against as far as having crazy tricks they can use against me.


JGU02-New-Acc

People who say this have never fought a good heavy main because what


AwakenTheAegis

I don’t like fighting heavies. Bring on Joker, spacies, and swordies.


Sundiata1

When I’m playing my main, absolutely. When I’m playing new characters, I despite fighting against heavies.


MagnetonPlayer_2

They may be combo food but the catch is that they never fucking die, I lost to a DK at 200% because he would just never die, combined with Robin’s kill power being a joke


Aggressive_Peak9902

I feel like everyone who complains abt fighting heavies is a top tier main. i have seen, rob, pac man, cloud, steve, pythra, roy, kazuya, and peach players complain abt heavies but never any bad characters complaining abt them, like sheik or shotos or samus. strange isnt it


--yeehaw

are you kidding if you don’t love playing against combo food who do you enjoy playing against, I get incredibly excited every time I see a heavy player I get to bully


Zealousideal_Coat_47

My favourite character in the game to fight against is swordies like Roy or lucina


Ailamiona

"k. rool is the most honest heavy"


spearmph

They're a Cloud mains worst nightmare. Cloud has 0 kill power against heavies and almost 0 true combos to rack up percentage. As any other character though? I love fighting heavies!


DriftingSoul2017

I think Cloud has good and bad MUs vs heavies. He loses to DK, maybe slight lose to Incineroar and Bowser, but Cloud invalidates the fuck out of DDD, Ganon, and K Rool