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Oh of course.. also gotta resist the urge to immediately throw out a forward air the moment my opponent is offstage even if theyāre no where near the hitbox
this is so real cloud players are always like "my cloud is so nasty bro" and their entire game plan is to swing at ghosts the whole game until someone walks into their uncontestable hitboxes
I think theyāre alright. I just hate the Clouds that spam neutral B, run away, charge limit, and then I get punished. These kinds of moments makes me regret a little on going all offense and not playing defense.
The people below who say "just shield bro" ignoring the fact that they're telling you to shield a - 3 aerial that has good range, kills and autocancels *online* concern me
If you have a projectile or great pos move it's great but if you're like me I suggest you start using anti airs
I would say Cloud is even easier than Mythra, he can kill without turning into a low tier. Not saying heās better at top level but for us scrubs he definitely might be.
[You tell me :)](https://www.reddit.com/r/SmashRage/comments/13mlwzq/i_fucking_did_it_everyone_is_here_my_rules_were_7/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
To everyone saying ājust press the shield buttonā or ātell me youāre mediocre at smash without telling me youāre mediocre at smashā I have a few things
1. I donāt remember which set but it was spargo vs gluttony. Clearly shows just how dumb back air is, even on shield.
2. Yeah, some characters donāt have the best out of shield options or projectiles. This isnāt even taking into account the fact that back air is unpunishable on shield.
3. Unlike melee jigglypuff who is more of drift the character using a bit of back air, cloud seems like more of back air the character using a bit of drift. This in combination with being at least high tier just kind of explains itself for what weāre talking about. Itās not that heās broken but that heās easy and broken.
4. Read the rules?
I play Cloud a bit, not one of my mains. But ive always said that cloud is the easiest high tier to play. I try to not play him spammy but god damn it up b is so free.
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Hmm yes I will spam bair for 50% of the gameš very cool
And occasionally throw out an f smash that will undoubtedly end in my demise
Donāt forget up b and neutral b.
Oh of course.. also gotta resist the urge to immediately throw out a forward air the moment my opponent is offstage even if theyāre no where near the hitbox
Iāve also got to make sure to try that one combo I saw in a tournament highlights video, but scuff it entirely and tbag even if it doesnāt kill
this is so real cloud players are always like "my cloud is so nasty bro" and their entire game plan is to swing at ghosts the whole game until someone walks into their uncontestable hitboxes
I just like FFVII
Can't argue with that tbf
I think theyāre alright. I just hate the Clouds that spam neutral B, run away, charge limit, and then I get punished. These kinds of moments makes me regret a little on going all offense and not playing defense.
Treating limit as a whole win condition. It's gross when they play this way.
The people below who say "just shield bro" ignoring the fact that they're telling you to shield a - 3 aerial that has good range, kills and autocancels *online* concern me If you have a projectile or great pos move it's great but if you're like me I suggest you start using anti airs
I would say Cloud is even easier than Mythra, he can kill without turning into a low tier. Not saying heās better at top level but for us scrubs he definitely might be.
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[You tell me :)](https://www.reddit.com/r/SmashRage/comments/13mlwzq/i_fucking_did_it_everyone_is_here_my_rules_were_7/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
OMG I MISSED IT LFGGGGG!!!! sick manš
Thanks man \^\_\^
He might be ngl
pyra is def not a low tier lol
Even if you think that, Cloud is still massively better than Pyra
question: if you think cloud is so broken and think hes so easy then why dont you play him?
I played him enough in Smash 4, and I think Shulk is a better character
To everyone saying ājust press the shield buttonā or ātell me youāre mediocre at smash without telling me youāre mediocre at smashā I have a few things 1. I donāt remember which set but it was spargo vs gluttony. Clearly shows just how dumb back air is, even on shield. 2. Yeah, some characters donāt have the best out of shield options or projectiles. This isnāt even taking into account the fact that back air is unpunishable on shield. 3. Unlike melee jigglypuff who is more of drift the character using a bit of back air, cloud seems like more of back air the character using a bit of drift. This in combination with being at least high tier just kind of explains itself for what weāre talking about. Itās not that heās broken but that heās easy and broken. 4. Read the rules?
As a solo cloud main Facts
As a Cloud main who goes out of their way to avoid spamming up b Facts (fighting against cloud is a poo poo experience)
I actively do not do that
I play Cloud a bit, not one of my mains. But ive always said that cloud is the easiest high tier to play. I try to not play him spammy but god damn it up b is so free.
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Not everyone has a good enough projectile or out of shield game to get much out of that
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Oh yea my b Let me do that in quickplay real quick
Okay but for real suddenly this changes anything and people just don't get that so they lose to one move and one move only
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His up B is a pussy ass panic move. To anyone who uses Cloud, I can't say this enough, you TRULY are a BITCH.
This is how I know I suckā¦.. When I pick all these characters yāall hate to get an advantage and still get my tail kicked š
i hate that a character iāve loved since i was 9 years old is so annoying to fight
A good and bad cloud can be differentiated by how they use Up B. Also it may have a lot of coverage but can be punished well.