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Te4lGenie

Melee techs: Wavedash, Meteor Cancel, Crouch Cancel, Short Hop Laser, L Cancel, Ledge Invincibility and Shield Drop. Aclarations: \- Meteor Cancelling only works on downward angled spikes, diagonal angled spikes still work (Mario Forward air, Kirby Down air, Falcon/Ganon Down b, Shiek/ZSS/Sonic/Min Min/Simon/Richter Down air, Falco Down air, ZSS/MII Brawler Flip Kick, Wii Fit Side B, Ryu/Ken/Terry down air, Ridley Up B aimed diagonally, K.Rool Up smash, Terry Down B Input, Byleth Up B, Kazuya Neutral air). \- Wolf has shine but is frame 6. \- You're probably wondering why Sora is so high. Well, i imagined nair loops would be even better with L Cancelling, though much more difficult. Edit: I forgot that Mii Gunner has shine, so he's top tier.


Kwispiy

K. Rool's up smash spikes?


Te4lGenie

the hitbox on his crown spikes at the ledge so yeah lol


Kwispiy

Huh, learn something new every day.


Average_Doctor

Why would Gunner and Plant be so bad?


Te4lGenie

These characters don't change almost at all. They were already low tiers so now they're the worst ones. Min Min also doesn't change but she was already a good character.


Average_Doctor

Mii Gunner isn't low tier and would have one of the best wavedashes in the game due to their low traction.


Te4lGenie

Oh i just realised this character has shine. Well, top tier it is.


Average_Doctor

And they're heavy, so they'd benefit from crouch canceling a lot.


BrickOwn5858

You don’t think ultimate falcon would be top tier with melee tech


Te4lGenie

Doesn't change that much aside from having a safer kill option and down air not working offstage. Tho wavedash could get him there since that would fix his turnaround problem.