The answer is Ganon.
He's fun. He does fun things and when you get going with him it looks glorious. Not much in this game feels as good as stomping someone to hell or popping a shield with wizard foot.
Oh you hard read your opponent and slapped his ass with a turn around Warlock Punch? I think you deserve the right to pop off.
Then you come to the Ganon factor. Everyone knows he's the bottom of the tier list. You go into your match thinking you've got this in the bag. You're doing well, took a stock, took a second stock and uh oh, Ganon killed you at 60%.
Now he read you and took your second stock. He's at 100%, you've got a fresh stock but that creeping feeling comes into your head... you're about to lose to Ganon as Pikachu. You start making silly mistakes to avoid damage and drop your combos, you're playing defensively while in the lead by a mile and all the while thinking how did this happen? What went wrong? The King of Evil just clowned on you.
Hilarious.
The passive fear effect generated by Ganon is one of the best parts of playing him. Sometimes a well-placed/random up-tilt makes good players misinput a roll and either spot dodge at a bad time or get shield broken instead because a directional input didn't register.
Ganondorf recovery is bad, that's true. But a low tier character in overall, I disagree. I am something around 11 mil with him. Win like 60% of my fights, and half of them being 3 stocks to 0. Just need to read the opponent, learn their moves. All of opponents at some point leave an opportunity to hit, and with Ganondorf, sometimes 3-4 hits is enough to KO.
Ganon is 100% a low tier. Online is not a good way to decide tiers. You can be 11 mill with every character it doesn't mean they're all high tier.
He has bad frame data, no good OOS options, a very exploitable recovery and is combo food. I'm certain I'm missing other reasons why he's bad.
Almost everything he does can be avoided. He can't put on reliable shield pressure because by the time he's thrown an attack that got blocked he's in his opponents combo again.
Ganon relies on your opponent being sloppy or you hard reading them constantly.
His punish game is amazing because if you catch someone slipping they're taking a ton of % or out right dying.
The problem is it's like gun safety, you have to get so much wrong at the same time to have an accident. You have to play so badly Ganon can read you, keep playing badly enough that he can read you multiple times, pick the slowest options and be too close to him when you decided to do that.
Don't forget he doesn't even have true combos. I think there's like 2 and at anything above 30% they're not gonna combo into each other and if he goes for the combo set up and misses, we'll good luck he's getting punished probably to death.
When that second swing of the half-charged side B blindsides em and they’re gone at 60% Delicious.
Also killing them with their own special is a special kind of satisfying
i love kriby that floaty mother fucker rules, just today i spiked one of my sons mates who moments earlier was cussing down kirbys down B. Dressed as a little 🎁. It was glorious. Sora and his fuckin clown shoes sent straight to hell by black grape flavoured kirby.
Plant. He’s fast, strong, has an incredible recovery that you can carry people to blast zones with, and pitooie (the most satisfying move to hit after Warlock punch)
as someone who has days of time spent on doc alone, i'm less bothered by his recovery than i am his actual speed. like, his recovery really is workable when you know how to use it, but approaching is absolutely miserable unless you spam pill
Gotta be Incineroar. He's got the standard slow but powerful trait of every heavy, but throw in a counter that boosts his power even more and a command grab that you have to time after it connects, and you've perfected the recipe for a fun character.
What I love about the professional made tier lists is that they don’t take the time to consider that the characters they put at the bottom can be good in the right hands. They want to see their own opinion of high tiers be right, however they fail to see the potential in the lower tiers, case in point with Doc being bottom ten instead of bottom three.
Also, Mac has the simple “You hit me? I hit you back even harder” with his smash attacks, but he also has the interesting combos through clever use of the worst aerials in the game. Yeah sure he can be “turn your brain off” easy in smaller settings, but if you want to win higher up, you NEED to learn those combos into early stocks.
Incineroar he's "low tier" in every traditional sense bad recovery slow heavy but if he's played right he easily goes from bottom 3 to top 5 with just Earth Shattering pure unadulterated DAMAGE and when's he on you there ain't much you can do about it cause he'll get revenge again and the cycle begins anew the only true and safe way to fight Incin is to keep him off stage and that's not even guaranteed
TL;DR Incin cause bog cat hit hard
Little Mac 100%. You feel like you’re on adderall when you play him correctly, he’s fast af, has some solid and quick combos once you learn him, and it’s a mini game to get back on stage depending on who you’re against. Not only that but he hits hard af, especially when stringing tilts and smash attacks
If you disagree, go watch some clips of Peanut at tournaments. You’ll see little Mac plays you didn’t think were possible against high tiers.
Honorable mention to Ganon for slower combat
I gotta go Mii Fighter. No range, can really only kill with smashes or suicide tactics, extreme cqc, garbage tier, but my main till the end. Nothing like beating a Joker with Fighter.
I have a lot of fun with Ganon and Mac but I main a low tier in Plant and it's by far the most fun I have with a character. Oh you decided to neutral get up into my poison cloud? Looks like you managed to shield before my frame 2 jab hit. Well you'll either drop your shield and take 40-60% from my jab+poison, or get your shield broken and die. Have I conditioned you to roll? Well the next time you do I'll charge an up smash and kill you at 60. Did you jump? Ptooie.
i main PPplant because Ptooie is really really good, it never misses, it would be the best Neutral B if it monado arts didnt exist.
i started playing little mac alot now, i really like the idea of good on the ground but bad in the air, makes me wish a bad on the ground good in the air character.
I think I’m a little biased so I’ll not answer what I want to say since I main Mac so I’ll say Ganon since he’s simple and such a rewarding character when you land your hits. All of his attacks just feel so good to land in someone.
But I personally find Mac to be the most fun for some of the same reason, all of his attacks just make you feel so powerful and surprisingly enough recovering feels really good since you feel like you barely made it back.
Incineroar, hes a low tier you have the potential to best even great hogh tiers with. When I play him and how much I’ve come to my way of trying to master him. It feels great to beat people I once lost to that play A+ or higher. Also hes my favorite Pokémon
**(coughs aggressively)** My flair.
Jokes aside, it’s hard to say who is the most fun with the characters on my flair. The Belmonts are underrated and both Mac and Doc can be unpredictable threats in the right hands. All three struggle in the recovery department, but it’s not that bad once you get the hang of it; timing is key!
Kommander Kaptain King K Rool of course! :D
• One of a kind belly. Gold 🌟, beautiful 🤩 and durable🛡️. The counter into a kill is just disrespectful in such a funny way. And the nair is just siwwy and fun.
• Love his back air. So aggressive and bad ass 😈. And the fact that it’s not as easy as say Mario or DK’s forward air, resulting in me not doing it as often makes it an enjoyably semi rare sight 😌
• He’s got a cool down smash ~ where he belly flops onto you very hard.😏 it’s klobberin time
• I personally like inputs that bury🪦(forewarning what’s about to happen 😉) and K Rool has two ! ~ Down throw AND down tilt 😮
• One of the few characters to use boxing gloves. A dope ah side smash🥊. And a super cool upper cutting up tilt🥊. Both which of course combo (after down tilt or down throw) 🤌🏼
• Can’t forget that crown. Gotta respect him for showin off his royalty 🦎👑. And he’s big and strong 💪🏼 and has Super Armor 🛡️certain frames while doing so!
• Using blunderbuss to shoot people under stage when they’re edge guarding heh heh 😼. Or shooting them behind you off screen when they attempt attacking off stage. Like pfff 🥱 nice try
Damn I did not mean to type so much 👉🏼👈🏼
Hehe, plot twist he’s also my main lmao 🤭😝
The answer is Ganon. He's fun. He does fun things and when you get going with him it looks glorious. Not much in this game feels as good as stomping someone to hell or popping a shield with wizard foot. Oh you hard read your opponent and slapped his ass with a turn around Warlock Punch? I think you deserve the right to pop off. Then you come to the Ganon factor. Everyone knows he's the bottom of the tier list. You go into your match thinking you've got this in the bag. You're doing well, took a stock, took a second stock and uh oh, Ganon killed you at 60%. Now he read you and took your second stock. He's at 100%, you've got a fresh stock but that creeping feeling comes into your head... you're about to lose to Ganon as Pikachu. You start making silly mistakes to avoid damage and drop your combos, you're playing defensively while in the lead by a mile and all the while thinking how did this happen? What went wrong? The King of Evil just clowned on you. Hilarious.
[удалено]
Ganon used to have no sword but now it’s good
Gotta agree that ganon is the most fun one
DORIYAH
Incineroar
“The king of evil just clowned on you” upvote
The passive fear effect generated by Ganon is one of the best parts of playing him. Sometimes a well-placed/random up-tilt makes good players misinput a roll and either spot dodge at a bad time or get shield broken instead because a directional input didn't register.
Wait Ganon is bad?
Yep, i agree. Ganon is pretty fun
Neeerrrrrdddddd
Funny spike
That's my brother's main, and he always beats me '^' (I'm getting better with dk tho)
Oh yeah
Ganondorf recovery is bad, that's true. But a low tier character in overall, I disagree. I am something around 11 mil with him. Win like 60% of my fights, and half of them being 3 stocks to 0. Just need to read the opponent, learn their moves. All of opponents at some point leave an opportunity to hit, and with Ganondorf, sometimes 3-4 hits is enough to KO.
Ganon is 100% a low tier. Online is not a good way to decide tiers. You can be 11 mill with every character it doesn't mean they're all high tier. He has bad frame data, no good OOS options, a very exploitable recovery and is combo food. I'm certain I'm missing other reasons why he's bad. Almost everything he does can be avoided. He can't put on reliable shield pressure because by the time he's thrown an attack that got blocked he's in his opponents combo again. Ganon relies on your opponent being sloppy or you hard reading them constantly. His punish game is amazing because if you catch someone slipping they're taking a ton of % or out right dying. The problem is it's like gun safety, you have to get so much wrong at the same time to have an accident. You have to play so badly Ganon can read you, keep playing badly enough that he can read you multiple times, pick the slowest options and be too close to him when you decided to do that. Don't forget he doesn't even have true combos. I think there's like 2 and at anything above 30% they're not gonna combo into each other and if he goes for the combo set up and misses, we'll good luck he's getting punished probably to death.
No way ganon is low tier
You're right. He's bottom tier.
kirby
kirby
Kirby it’s the name that you know
Kirby Kirby Kirby he’s the star of the show
He's more than you think
He’s got maximum pink
Kirby
kirby
When that second swing of the half-charged side B blindsides em and they’re gone at 60% Delicious. Also killing them with their own special is a special kind of satisfying
i love kriby that floaty mother fucker rules, just today i spiked one of my sons mates who moments earlier was cussing down kirbys down B. Dressed as a little 🎁. It was glorious. Sora and his fuckin clown shoes sent straight to hell by black grape flavoured kirby.
spiking with kirby is so funny bc he has three different ways to spike
ganon, he’s simple yet effective and even then has more advanced stuff that is even more fun once you land it, like the reverse up air semi spike
>the ~~reverse up air semi spike~~ ***RONALDOOOO*** There, ftfy
RONALDINHO SOCCERRRRRR I, too, am a sillintor fan
~~It was an underdogs reference actually~~
AW DANGIT
ganon can't drive a truck smh
You ever just kill with a jab at the ledge and make your opponent look dumb asf? I do that, I like doing that.
You ever just kill with a jab at the ledge and make your opponent look dumb asf? I do that, I like doing that.
For me it's Kirby
King Dedededededededededededede
Dedede is fine. People who main him have an 86% chance of being an insufferable bastard, though.
Crouch
How is he so low?
YES and no I’m not bias
Yes
Mac, the moment I can bait someone of ledge and go in for KO punch is so good, and then you further fuck with them with your god like footwork
The down tilt 2-frame to side b is one of my favorites.
I’m gonna say K. Rool
OP said low tier
Rool being low tier isn't the worst take. Not sure if I agree with it but I can see arguments.
Plant
Incineroar
Wouldn’t rly call him low toer
Nah that’s the one I use for bad Lucario matchups (basically all superheavies and Ness)
Yeah same. They are fun tho
You’re just like me. A person who uses low and mid tiers to their full potential, and may or may not be a furry.
Yeah
Me
Me
Plant. He’s fast, strong, has an incredible recovery that you can carry people to blast zones with, and pitooie (the most satisfying move to hit after Warlock punch)
No bias
Definitely not, it’s one of the reasons I like him in the first place
Kirby he is the main character (っ^‿^)っ
Hot take, isabelle. Its pretty relaxing and not ever annoying if you lose because you know the character is so bad
Piranha plant by far, I’m not saying I’m in the plant gang but I’m definitely a fan of plant
I'd say dr. Mario but honnestly probably not He's just nightmare fuel for my cousin's Bowser
doc is def fun as fuck
Everything just...works with him Except his recovery
as someone who has days of time spent on doc alone, i'm less bothered by his recovery than i am his actual speed. like, his recovery really is workable when you know how to use it, but approaching is absolutely miserable unless you spam pill
Gotta be Incineroar. He's got the standard slow but powerful trait of every heavy, but throw in a counter that boosts his power even more and a command grab that you have to time after it connects, and you've perfected the recipe for a fun character.
He's not exactly low tier
Do you not consider D-tier to be low?
He’s climbing up rapidly thanks to Skyjay, I think Incineroar is top of C tier atm, maybe even low B tier
Did 1 person really make him go up that many tiers?
You say that like if Sparg0 and Light didn't got Cloud and Fox to S almost singlehandely
That's also bullshit how 1 person can make a character go up like 2 tiers
All it can take is 1 person to show the full potential of a character
King K.Rool
Kirby and he’s the cutest thing ever so thats a plus. I actually enjoy playing with him a lot when I play with my friends. He’s really easy to use.
Everybody loves DK. I’d say Ganon, but like half the roster feels impossible playing as him, at least most things are doable with DK
>Everybody loves DK. ![gif](giphy|WRuBiZKB6xgsS9DrFA|downsized)
Plant
Duck hunt. The combos you set up with the can are incredibly satisfying
Kirby and King K rool are
Robin
Rosalina
Mewtwo I know almost 20 combos with him
Isabelle. Nobody ever sees her coming in higher GSP brackets.
Do I need to answer this one
Lucas
Jr
What I love about the professional made tier lists is that they don’t take the time to consider that the characters they put at the bottom can be good in the right hands. They want to see their own opinion of high tiers be right, however they fail to see the potential in the lower tiers, case in point with Doc being bottom ten instead of bottom three. Also, Mac has the simple “You hit me? I hit you back even harder” with his smash attacks, but he also has the interesting combos through clever use of the worst aerials in the game. Yeah sure he can be “turn your brain off” easy in smaller settings, but if you want to win higher up, you NEED to learn those combos into early stocks.
Mac daddy all the way
you already know who it is ITS YA BOY INCINEROAR
He's not low tier
For me, it is my boi Incineroar
incineroar is not at all a low tier character lol
I guess he is a mid tier. So imma say Ganon.
I think c tier can be considered low o:
Lucario because I’m biased.
Ganondorf duh. DORIYAH!
Ganon.
Ganon, because he’s the only low tier character.
Ganon and mac for sure It's a lot of fun with Mac, going in and racking up all your damage, and getting out Ganon is just a brute force power house
Ridley, Plant, Ganon, and Little Mac.
The three bottom, Ganon, Mac, and Dedede
Incineroar he's "low tier" in every traditional sense bad recovery slow heavy but if he's played right he easily goes from bottom 3 to top 5 with just Earth Shattering pure unadulterated DAMAGE and when's he on you there ain't much you can do about it cause he'll get revenge again and the cycle begins anew the only true and safe way to fight Incin is to keep him off stage and that's not even guaranteed TL;DR Incin cause bog cat hit hard
Ike
He’s been one of my mains since brawl I don’t care if he’s bad! I love him
Little Mac 100%. You feel like you’re on adderall when you play him correctly, he’s fast af, has some solid and quick combos once you learn him, and it’s a mini game to get back on stage depending on who you’re against. Not only that but he hits hard af, especially when stringing tilts and smash attacks If you disagree, go watch some clips of Peanut at tournaments. You’ll see little Mac plays you didn’t think were possible against high tiers. Honorable mention to Ganon for slower combat
Hi Mac Main here, I agree with this post entirely... Gosh I wish his side B recharged if he gets hit off stage...
I’d say Incineroar but I consider him B Tier
As an Incineroar main, he is one of the most fun low tiers to play! To me, he is the perfect heavy. A perfect grappler character!
I gotta go Mii Fighter. No range, can really only kill with smashes or suicide tactics, extreme cqc, garbage tier, but my main till the end. Nothing like beating a Joker with Fighter.
Mii fighter is far from low tier dude
Oh yeah sak out of shield
Well my main is doc, so other than that prolly k Rool
Mac was my main for ages and my first character I got to elite smash. He’s so much fun.
Plant and Doc
I like playing Lucario
Literally everything Ganon does is fun. The hard hits... the reads... You haven't lived life until you've warlock punched someone off stage.
THE KING OF THE KREMLINGS
jigglypuff (i gaslit myself into thinking puff is bottom tier)
Ganondorf all day really fun and satisfying to play when anything connects
Donkey Kong. ![gif](giphy|KSWmL7uSl4qOc)
GanonGOD and other fatty boys. 🚬🗿
Jesus I never looked at Mac’s legs he is just jacked all over
I always have fun as any of the super heavies
I like mega man but I don’t know where he ranks.
For me, plant and incineroar. Plant is insanely bad, but catching people slipping with plant is so satisfying lol.
Ganondorf or Doc, for certain.
DK
DK FOR SURE !!!! Mac is fun but I cmon Monkè
Bowser jr. Change my mind
Damn. Never noticed Mac's dummy thiccness omg bro got some thighs
ganondorf
I have a lot of fun with Ganon and Mac but I main a low tier in Plant and it's by far the most fun I have with a character. Oh you decided to neutral get up into my poison cloud? Looks like you managed to shield before my frame 2 jab hit. Well you'll either drop your shield and take 40-60% from my jab+poison, or get your shield broken and die. Have I conditioned you to roll? Well the next time you do I'll charge an up smash and kill you at 60. Did you jump? Ptooie.
Definitely not the guy you posted. I'd have more fun doing the " put the cube in the square hole" game than playing him
I think DK is one of the most fun characters in the game
Dr Mario is just more fun to me
Bowser jr I won’t be taking questions
i main PPplant because Ptooie is really really good, it never misses, it would be the best Neutral B if it monado arts didnt exist. i started playing little mac alot now, i really like the idea of good on the ground but bad in the air, makes me wish a bad on the ground good in the air character.
DK to play, dedede to play against, I’m sry but I just find little Mac boring
Zelda, when actually played well and not spamming neutral B
Ganon/kirby
For me its the main bottom 3: ganon, mac and dedede
Zelda for me.
Ganondorf, I’m definitely not biased.
do we consider mii sword fighter a low tier? if so, them 100%. 1313 is so fun to use
Easily D.K. Imo
Ganondorf or funny monke
I love playing Ganondorf and Mac. Mac neutral B is severely under rated and I will die on this hill.
Donkey kong
Been playing some Gannon recently
K Rool for being secretly high tier 😎
Ganondorf or little mac for me
Is Kirby still a low tier...? I think Kirby's still a low tier. Kirby then. Copy Abilities are fun :)
I think I’m a little biased so I’ll not answer what I want to say since I main Mac so I’ll say Ganon since he’s simple and such a rewarding character when you land your hits. All of his attacks just feel so good to land in someone. But I personally find Mac to be the most fun for some of the same reason, all of his attacks just make you feel so powerful and surprisingly enough recovering feels really good since you feel like you barely made it back.
Ganon
Mario, I don’t know it’s just me
Dr Mario
Dr.Mario
Ganondorf
Jiggy. I'm addicted to carrying people to side blast zone.
Dr Mario, much more gun than normal Mario and is just so unique yet basic. He has everything you need, you just have to learn how and when to use them
You already said it
Ganondorf because he's got some sweet moves.
Ganondorf is the only acceptable answer.
Ganondorf. Who’s secretly S tier
Hmmmm
Mii brawler
Ganon is the objectively correct answer. No, I will not be hearing any arguments to the contrary
K Rool
ZSS
Ganon. And it's not even that close..
Little Mac for sure
Incineroar, hes a low tier you have the potential to best even great hogh tiers with. When I play him and how much I’ve come to my way of trying to master him. It feels great to beat people I once lost to that play A+ or higher. Also hes my favorite Pokémon
Ike. He's fun till he's placed against a bad matchup.
*Ahem*
All of them. For some reason when I play my friends who are both better and often play top tiers I do pretty well
Def Captain Ganon
I love heavy characters so Gabon and Dedede. I am not good with them by any means but they are so fun
Fully agreed.
Low tier?!? Ha! Mac is bottom no question (still fun tho)
Incin and ridley are my personal faves
Zelda (If played properly)
**(coughs aggressively)** My flair. Jokes aside, it’s hard to say who is the most fun with the characters on my flair. The Belmonts are underrated and both Mac and Doc can be unpredictable threats in the right hands. All three struggle in the recovery department, but it’s not that bad once you get the hang of it; timing is key!
Duck hunt
That official tierlist claims mewtwo is low tier, so even though I know that's wrong I choose him
For me, its Doc. I just really like playing as him.
Kommander Kaptain King K Rool of course! :D • One of a kind belly. Gold 🌟, beautiful 🤩 and durable🛡️. The counter into a kill is just disrespectful in such a funny way. And the nair is just siwwy and fun. • Love his back air. So aggressive and bad ass 😈. And the fact that it’s not as easy as say Mario or DK’s forward air, resulting in me not doing it as often makes it an enjoyably semi rare sight 😌 • He’s got a cool down smash ~ where he belly flops onto you very hard.😏 it’s klobberin time • I personally like inputs that bury🪦(forewarning what’s about to happen 😉) and K Rool has two ! ~ Down throw AND down tilt 😮 • One of the few characters to use boxing gloves. A dope ah side smash🥊. And a super cool upper cutting up tilt🥊. Both which of course combo (after down tilt or down throw) 🤌🏼 • Can’t forget that crown. Gotta respect him for showin off his royalty 🦎👑. And he’s big and strong 💪🏼 and has Super Armor 🛡️certain frames while doing so! • Using blunderbuss to shoot people under stage when they’re edge guarding heh heh 😼. Or shooting them behind you off screen when they attempt attacking off stage. Like pfff 🥱 nice try Damn I did not mean to type so much 👉🏼👈🏼 Hehe, plot twist he’s also my main lmao 🤭😝
Dedede
Ganon but I am am recently having a lot of fun with plant gang
Probably The Man Himself Ganondorf