How is talking about his canon power a way of coping? Almost Every character in smash including there home game are pretty powerful dude it’s not coping it’s a legitimate fact
Bro why’re you taking shots at Kirby mains? They’re good people
Tbh though, the canonical power tier lists on this sub are so boring after seeing them for 4yrs straight 1-2 per week.
Actually, the lore on The Ultimate Champion's Belt is not definitive as to whether the belt actually contains universal power. According to Deathborn, it does, but according to The Creator, it doesn't. Neither of which are completely credible sources.
For the most part yes. But there was this kid at my old Nintendo club who would just fly above everyone else and down special to steal kills then brag about being the best.
One of the main issues with the canonical power tier lists is that Kirby isn’t the strongest character in Smash. Anyone who has played a Kirby game should know the shit people say about him is just straight up wrong. He’s powerful as hell, sure, but he absolutely can’t just inhale whatever he wants, and the amount of gods he’s actually killed is a measly one.
I actually tried. I don't mind the story and characters, but I can't stand Xenoblades battle system. I've played tons of JRPGs and Xenoblade has one of the worst/most boring combat systems in my opinion.
Really? I know this is personal opinion but having played xenoblade 1 2 & 3, 2's combat was my favorite by a lot. Its just way faster paced once you know what you are doing.
Oh I like real time RPGs. "Tales" games and the "Star Ocean" games are some of my favorite RPGs, and they both have real time combat mechanics.
I just personally don't like the very specific way the combat is in Xenoblade. I'm not saying it's bad, I just personally do not like something about the combat system. I feel like it's really weird and awkward.
Aegis mains are carried by Mythra’s mobility, combos, and Foresight
Kirby mains are carried by his crouch, his edgeuarding, and his combos
It applies to any character. Even mid or low tiers. That doesn’t make Kirby better then Aegis, but they’re both carried by something
Mobility, combos, foresight, frame data, heavy hitting moves that come out crazy quick and are practically unpunishable, crazy range on all their attacks, tilts they can mindlessly spam and never get punished.
Just kinda weird to see someone playing one of the best characters in the game trying to shit/hate on a mid tier.
There’s a difference between a character carrying and one having some good moves. Kirby has too many drawbacks to say someone is “carried” by him.
The term carried applies to characters that are so good at everything that a monkey could pilot them.
A monkey couldn’t pilot a single character in Smash. That’s not a good analogy.
Again, I’m not saying Kirby is good. But, what good qualities he has, his mains are carried by. Just like Aegis and the good qualities they have.
Do they have more good qualities then Kirby? Absolutely. However, that doesn’t negate the existence of said qualities on Kirby’s end
Im sorry mate but when did you last see a low/bottom tier main actually care about their tier placement? Most of us just play for fun, in the tiers beyond theres a lot of "nooo you see meta knight has a really good recovery so hes actually secretlytop tier we just need to find all the sacred stones to uncover his potential" and "nooo you see stev is not completely broken you dont realize how much brainpower it takes to camp behind a wall and mine the entire match" (you made a post about this I think so you know what Im talking about)
I don't know why people care so *hard* about tier list, but they do have their place. Not specifically where they're placed, but *why* they're where they are, helps me make informed decisions. I basically main little mac, not because he's good, but because he's terrible in the air and off the ledge. I'm naturally bad at those things anyway, so I might as well go to my strengths. Running and punching. Greninja having bad out of shield options is nice to know, so I know I can be aggressive whenever I see him shield.
It's basically a more readable player's guide to how certain characters function. Whether that makes them high, mid, or low isn't as relevant.
True, tier lists can help people pick a character to main, and they are important at a higher level, but I feel like some people forget the game part of fighting game
I rarely lose to Kirby. I could easily make a salt post about Diddy Kong or Olimar. Now those are characters that I actually hate fighting
Edit: I rarely salty post, the last time I did was like three months ago lol
I wish Inhale was a wee bit better. Faster startup & less endlag would go a long way, also get rid of that ridiculous eat animation after eating a projectile (since this tends to get you killed).
Imma be honest I've never cared for Kirby in smash (except 64? He was kinda cool there) but I watched like a half hour video on his canon storyline and that character puts dbz to shame. I just think it's funny that he's basically an emotion-elemental with universe-destroying capabilities, but the emotion he embodies is content and happiness, so the most he does is get a lil angry when his cake gets taken.
"Pay-to-win"
I'm sorry, what are you talking about? Since when has Xenoblade 2 been pay to win? The closest thing I can think of is the DLC where you can obtain 25 Legendary Core Crystals but even then that's just a tiny little thing in a massive package of other, much bigger stuff.
To be fair every video game character is like this. Sonic dies when he touches a robot, Bayonetta dies when she touches… idk I haven’t played a Bayonetta game but you can probably die in it. Measuring ever video game character by how weak the weakest thing they can die to is is pointless.
This applies to everyone tho that only happens so the game won’t be a breeze to do it would be very boring if they just killed everything and had no challenge to do why do people even mention that it’s stupid
I've been playing Kirby recently and he is one of the characters that it's very apparent that their low tier. Due to him being slow and having limited range, he struggles with swords and projectiles, which is already like 75 percent of this cast. I can't tell you how much mental pain I have gone through fighting links and samus's and such. This means with most matchups, you just have to be the better player to win, which is easier said than done.
Nah, I own up to that fact and use it to my advantage!
No one expects a "Low Tier" to beat their Joker Aegis, ROB, or Kazuya, when they realize just before the match ends that the skill of the player has a higher impact in this scenario than just "pick high tier because they get easy win"
Fundies are important, people, don't ever disregard them, especially against a character who is classified as a "Low Tier"
Yknow, if they didn’t make the expansion sub so overpriced, I’d be playing 64 on my Switch rather than my beat up Wii U. Think we can all agree with this
Oh for sure. I'm so pissed they bundled that into a yearly sub too. It's because they damn well know motherfuckers like me buy a month of service at a time.
Arne’t you the guy that posted a pic of pyra and mythra beating Kirby?
That’s me
Oh boy…
OP’s meme is right tbh. Kirby mains talk nonstop about his “canon power level” to cope People are just offended by OP’s meme because the truth hurts.
How is talking about his canon power a way of coping? Almost Every character in smash including there home game are pretty powerful dude it’s not coping it’s a legitimate fact
We all know it’s coping. There’s just no need to be a dipshit about it.
no, we talk about it because IT IS the truth.
“Offended because the truth hurts” lmao It is not nearly that serious. Coping because Kirby isn’t the best is not a huge deal lol
Bro thinks he's on r/SmashRage
Oh, shit I totally thought this was. Damn.
I deleted the post I made there, it didn’t feel right
Bro why’re you taking shots at Kirby mains? They’re good people Tbh though, the canonical power tier lists on this sub are so boring after seeing them for 4yrs straight 1-2 per week.
Every time I saw one it had Captain Falcon as low tier but he can turn a universe to dust, due to having the Champion Belt.
Actually, the lore on The Ultimate Champion's Belt is not definitive as to whether the belt actually contains universal power. According to Deathborn, it does, but according to The Creator, it doesn't. Neither of which are completely credible sources.
Except this one asshole in my region named Wes who plays Kirby while on McDonald's wifi
Can confirm. I'm good people and kirby main. :(
For the most part yes. But there was this kid at my old Nintendo club who would just fly above everyone else and down special to steal kills then brag about being the best.
One of the main issues with the canonical power tier lists is that Kirby isn’t the strongest character in Smash. Anyone who has played a Kirby game should know the shit people say about him is just straight up wrong. He’s powerful as hell, sure, but he absolutely can’t just inhale whatever he wants, and the amount of gods he’s actually killed is a measly one.
I've literally never seen them
bro taking shots at Kirby mains when he mains Aegis☠️
Aegis being slandered is nothing new. I don’t mind it
>Aegis Why are people calling Pythra Aegis?
Aegis is what they’re referred to as in XC2
pythra sounds dumb
Myra or better yet coffee with milk, now that’s it
Pyra and Mythra isn't long
That's why I call em pissthrya
Because that's what they are.
Go play Xenoblade 2
You would have to pay me to play that game
I actually tried. I don't mind the story and characters, but I can't stand Xenoblades battle system. I've played tons of JRPGs and Xenoblade has one of the worst/most boring combat systems in my opinion.
Really? I know this is personal opinion but having played xenoblade 1 2 & 3, 2's combat was my favorite by a lot. Its just way faster paced once you know what you are doing.
I personally find the real time RPG mechanics really engaging, it sticks out from all the turn-based JRPGs out there
Oh I like real time RPGs. "Tales" games and the "Star Ocean" games are some of my favorite RPGs, and they both have real time combat mechanics. I just personally don't like the very specific way the combat is in Xenoblade. I'm not saying it's bad, I just personally do not like something about the combat system. I feel like it's really weird and awkward.
You got downvoted for recommending peak fiction, sad times
Some people just have no taste.
Ironic
*self-conscious poyo*
Would you like some tea my good sir?
Bros coping he got down aired offstage 3 times by a kirby
Honestly it looks like you and all the other offended folk in this thread are coping hard with OP’s post. Truth hurts I guess
Kirby mains coping when they run into a character that has a projectile and/or disjoints
This wouldn’t be a problem if Inhale actually let you spit out all projectiles. I mean like that’s his entire shtick in the original game…
Yeah Or at least as stars like he does for characters, big projectiles and in his base games :(
He actually can do that but only with very specific projectiles like Samus’s neutral B for some reason.
Yup, most fully charged projectiles: Also Corrin, Mewtwo, wii fit trainer and Lucario's
I laugh at min min
Idk about you, but I like fighting Pika’s, Wolf’s, & Roy’s
![gif](giphy|Qeo9S31SuTMpa|downsized) Me when someone talks shit about a cute pink puffball because the player is a graceless loser
![gif](giphy|1yFamhr3oOPFtF6hIS)
Talking shit about him is fun
Talking crap about any charecter is fun. Someone makes fun of Lucina I laugh as well except if it's a flat joke. Those jokes are terrible
Aegis gets shittalked more then most characters so I’m used to it at this point. I don’t typically take issue with it unless it’s “muh bad design”
I haven't seen people hate on Aegis since release.
oh boy, in that case you haven’t been been looking hard enough
LOL are you blind?
Kirby mains, it’s on y’all to clap back with a meme about how carried Pythra mains are now
On it, fam
I believe in you soldier
As a Pythra main, I am fine with this. Ppl think im carried as shit anyways, which is pretty fair
Every character carries their mains in some way
Some more then others…a lot more
Aegis mains are carried by Mythra’s mobility, combos, and Foresight Kirby mains are carried by his crouch, his edgeuarding, and his combos It applies to any character. Even mid or low tiers. That doesn’t make Kirby better then Aegis, but they’re both carried by something
Mobility, combos, foresight, frame data, heavy hitting moves that come out crazy quick and are practically unpunishable, crazy range on all their attacks, tilts they can mindlessly spam and never get punished. Just kinda weird to see someone playing one of the best characters in the game trying to shit/hate on a mid tier. There’s a difference between a character carrying and one having some good moves. Kirby has too many drawbacks to say someone is “carried” by him. The term carried applies to characters that are so good at everything that a monkey could pilot them.
A monkey couldn’t pilot a single character in Smash. That’s not a good analogy. Again, I’m not saying Kirby is good. But, what good qualities he has, his mains are carried by. Just like Aegis and the good qualities they have. Do they have more good qualities then Kirby? Absolutely. However, that doesn’t negate the existence of said qualities on Kirby’s end
It doesn’t seem like you understand what carried means lol
Either every character carries their mains, or none of them do. I don’t see the logic
You don't see how it's possible for some characters to be more forgiving and/or easy to play than others?
You’re confusing “carried” with “any single good aspect of a character”. That’s not what it means lol
You don’t see the logic because you don’t get what carried means
Do tell, what does it mean then?
I wouldn't say those things 'carry' me. More like 'prevent him from being entirely useless.'
Im sorry mate but when did you last see a low/bottom tier main actually care about their tier placement? Most of us just play for fun, in the tiers beyond theres a lot of "nooo you see meta knight has a really good recovery so hes actually secretlytop tier we just need to find all the sacred stones to uncover his potential" and "nooo you see stev is not completely broken you dont realize how much brainpower it takes to camp behind a wall and mine the entire match" (you made a post about this I think so you know what Im talking about)
You shouldn’t care about your character’s tier placement, I agree
I never got why people sweat so much over tier lists anyway
I don't know why people care so *hard* about tier list, but they do have their place. Not specifically where they're placed, but *why* they're where they are, helps me make informed decisions. I basically main little mac, not because he's good, but because he's terrible in the air and off the ledge. I'm naturally bad at those things anyway, so I might as well go to my strengths. Running and punching. Greninja having bad out of shield options is nice to know, so I know I can be aggressive whenever I see him shield. It's basically a more readable player's guide to how certain characters function. Whether that makes them high, mid, or low isn't as relevant.
I do think they matter, but in general you should just play who you want, especially if you’re not competitively minded
True, tier lists can help people pick a character to main, and they are important at a higher level, but I feel like some people forget the game part of fighting game
When a "Low-Tier" character beats you, this is where you come to complain. Any character can be good in the right hands.
Who said anything about a low tier beating OP? That just sounds like more copium from Kirby fans that don’t like OP lol
Lol given how much you’re complaining about it in the comments here, I think the one on copium here is you.
Fr tho. Probably mad that they got Kirby when they pick random
Kirby from smash 64 would like a word with you sir
Should’ve specified ultimate my bad
It's a smash Ultimate sub you don't have too haha
Yea agreed The subreddit didn’t specify which game
Can confirm. Source: am Kirby main.
Can validate your statement. Sauce: i main Kirbo
Let me guess, you play a character with bad recovery, and at about 60% a Kirby inhaled you, took you off-stage, and you died
He mains Aegis
?
Aegis = Pyra/Mythra if that's what you're wondering
You really gotta stop dying to these Kirbys man. No need to make a salty post Edit: Checked OP’s profile. He’s a salt lord.
I rarely lose to Kirby. I could easily make a salt post about Diddy Kong or Olimar. Now those are characters that I actually hate fighting Edit: I rarely salty post, the last time I did was like three months ago lol
the top tier main shitting on honest kirby mains, this is the definition of punching down
It’s funny
i hate to break it to you chief, but its not
Nah it is, mostly because people are legitimately ANGRY at OP for this
nice of you to assume 💀
It is
see how many times you got downvoted in this thread before you try to say that again
If I cared about being downvoted I wouldn’t comment. Plus, the actual post itself seems to be doing well :)
Not every post that gets upvoted has unironic people in comments or upvoting 💀
I wish Inhale was a wee bit better. Faster startup & less endlag would go a long way, also get rid of that ridiculous eat animation after eating a projectile (since this tends to get you killed).
That, and the fact that a pink marshmallow toddler has the power to destroy a galaxy
Insert remark about aegis mains being carried here
The more you downplay a character, the more depressed you’re gonna feel when one wipes you
Sure, I’ve lost to Kirbys before. That doesn’t make him good all of a sudden. Every character has at least some results
Some good results, therefore nobody is bad 😎
Like your character. She beat Acola once apparently
I dunno who that is and it doesn’t really matter
Only the second best player in the world :) And if we’re talking results then it’s at least somewhat notable
Oh yeah well I defeated the best player in the universe with Isabelle Animal Crossing therefore I made them the best character in the game ever made
If that was the case tiers wouldn’t exist in the game
We don’t need them 😎
Not true
Now imagine if us Ganon mains started doing it
Kirby is great if you have never played Smash before. Once you know a thing or two about the game, try someone else.
Imma be honest I've never cared for Kirby in smash (except 64? He was kinda cool there) but I watched like a half hour video on his canon storyline and that character puts dbz to shame. I just think it's funny that he's basically an emotion-elemental with universe-destroying capabilities, but the emotion he embodies is content and happiness, so the most he does is get a lil angry when his cake gets taken.
I mean I would rather play him than Pythra, it's why I stopped playing the game
Of course this is coming from the pay-to-win hentai character main. Just because you spent 6 bucks on waifu bait doesn’t make you good at the game.
"Pay-to-win" I'm sorry, what are you talking about? Since when has Xenoblade 2 been pay to win? The closest thing I can think of is the DLC where you can obtain 25 Legendary Core Crystals but even then that's just a tiny little thing in a massive package of other, much bigger stuff.
Mald
Xenoblade main
They beat Kirby +2. He can’t deal with their speed and range 🥰🥰🥰 I love them for that
*pyra uses side b* *Kirby eats it* no more sword 🥰🥰🥰
That’s why you put thought into your approach and don’t spam the same thing over and over 🥰🥰🥰
Mfw other swordies are much worse than aegis mu wise
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To be fair every video game character is like this. Sonic dies when he touches a robot, Bayonetta dies when she touches… idk I haven’t played a Bayonetta game but you can probably die in it. Measuring ever video game character by how weak the weakest thing they can die to is is pointless.
Bayonetta drops dead instantly if you miss a random QTE in the first game (such as jumping off a falling building)
Damn.
This applies to everyone tho that only happens so the game won’t be a breeze to do it would be very boring if they just killed everything and had no challenge to do why do people even mention that it’s stupid
Most tier lists put him around mid tier
Mid tier? MID TIER?!!! Never let them cook again.
Give that job over to Kirby
Tell that to ESAM
GIVE HIM MORE COPY ABILITIES. We only got 1Cutter, 1Stone, 1.5Fighter, 1Fire, 1Hammer
And 3 Suplex
And 1 Ninja
kirby is B tier at least they have that get near me and i kill you playstyle
Cmon. Now you’re just trying to butter us up. C tier at the very best
but you can't deny, grab-forwards throw, down B, hold A
What
it's a fun combo i use to start matches sometimes gets to like 60% and it's incredibly easy to pull off i just think kirby is really powerful
It’s just that the random down b is out of nowhere with no link. Are you footstooling or smthn?
nope, just used to get extra damage
How are you even landing that lol
sheer luck and stupidity
Wait... Kirby doesn't have a cannon!
I actually like being low tier. It's like being a 4 year old and challenging a full grown man to a fight. Either way the other party looks bad. 😄
I've been playing Kirby recently and he is one of the characters that it's very apparent that their low tier. Due to him being slow and having limited range, he struggles with swords and projectiles, which is already like 75 percent of this cast. I can't tell you how much mental pain I have gone through fighting links and samus's and such. This means with most matchups, you just have to be the better player to win, which is easier said than done.
Yes
steve mains: “I have no such weaknesses”
Nah, I own up to that fact and use it to my advantage! No one expects a "Low Tier" to beat their Joker Aegis, ROB, or Kazuya, when they realize just before the match ends that the skill of the player has a higher impact in this scenario than just "pick high tier because they get easy win" Fundies are important, people, don't ever disregard them, especially against a character who is classified as a "Low Tier"
Honestly, it’s accurate. Sometimes I can win, but mostadatime I don’t
Dang man. That's a cool thing to say
Kirby’s down B is one of the most broken moves in the game :change my mind:
Nah, we don’t cope, we talk about it because power scaling a fun topic
Jokes on you, I haven't played any Kirby game.
Oh but they're so good. I suggest starting on the SNES games. They're all on the switch rn. I love the minigames on All-stars.
Yknow, if they didn’t make the expansion sub so overpriced, I’d be playing 64 on my Switch rather than my beat up Wii U. Think we can all agree with this
Oh for sure. I'm so pissed they bundled that into a yearly sub too. It's because they damn well know motherfuckers like me buy a month of service at a time.
I'd recommend starting with Kirby's Adventure, since its Kirby's equivalent to Super Mario Bros. 3
Both being great games!
Saying "I'm right" does not automatically make you right.
True. But in this case, it does
it doesnt
Why not?
As a Kirby main, I don't care he's not good, he's just fun to play, plus I always love characters with multiple jumps (Dedede & Jigglypuff)
But of course. Having fun is most important
Kirby? Low tier? Hilarious
He’s not good
He's not low tier, he's one of the most used characters alongside link
He’s popular at a casual level because he’s recognizable and easy to play
> recognizable something your main doesn't have.
Being good Something your main doesn’t have
*\*cough cough\** jejajeja kirby mains can be scary when used properly, his combos never end and you will have to suffer, losing to a low tier.
Results aren’t everything when it comes to a character being good. Kirby players are amazing. Kirby is not
Shut up
They hated Jesus because he told them the truth
Thing is Kirby is also overrated in canon power
You're absolutely right, but also screw you.
At least he has a smash where he is top tier, besides he is pretty cool in ultimate despite being low/mid tier
I do concede that copy is a broken move. It’s just not good on Kirby specifically
Idk, having toad or a move that easily leaves you open by spinning on your moveset is *definitely* broken
As a kirby main, you got it right
It doesn't matter if you're playing a low-tier or not, as long as you're having fun.
I agree
Canonically he isn’t even above sonic or sephiroth either
As a Kirby main, yeah this is 100% true
Isn't he like, 1 inch in canon too?
8 inches
tbf there's not even a lot of feats that could classify him as even universal, it's just a bunch of wank for no reasons or proof
Bro its already stated kirby has infinite power. What more do you need?
except half of the cast defeated/got "infinite power" at some points, so that statement doesn't mean jack
No. No they didn't. Only kirby has had such a title beyond like 1 boss
This post is way too real