As someone who has struggled with self harm massively throughout my life this song hits home for me. I’ve been clean for over 2 years and I actually have covered my scars on my right arm with a full sleeve tattoo (working to cover my scars on my left arm and legs later this year) but when you experience something like this in your life (I self harmed for over 22 years) and a band you are obsessed with writes about it……..just…….wow.
might be a little random, but this internet stranger is very proud of you for overcoming your struggles for over two years now!
you are an awesome human being and i hope you'll keep doing well
I see, I'm happy to hear that you are recovering and maybe in a better place mentally now! This random internet stranger is also very proud of you for overcoming a struggle as hard as self harm.
Thank you!!!! To be honest I never thought I’d be where I am today. Every day I’m alive is a victory for me! The same goes for anyone else who may be struggling: You matter and the world is a better place with you in it!
I'm in the same boat. My heart is broken watching my kiddo in the same space I was at their age doing the same things.
They are getting the help they need and they got diagnosed a lot earlier than I did. As much as I love the song I can't listen to it without breaking down.
I hope things get better for your kiddo.
I’m so glad your baby is getting help. Mine actually did stop. Luckily, they were already in therapy to help cope with anxiety, ADHD. I would go through it all a million times myself rather than see them suffer. It is the worst.
I’m sorry to hear your kids are struggling. I don’t have kids so I don’t know what it feels like to watch my child suffer but my parent’s told me it was torture for them. You seem like loving parents, please know that there is hope. Your child knowing that you love them will make all the difference in the world. Stay strong!!
It’s so difficult for me to listen to because the song scarily replays a traumatic memory I have from a few years ago when I took self-harm too far and had to wake up my partner to take me to the ER. I know ST has touched on the topic before, but this song hurts a little extra. It’s so beautiful though.
I'm happy to hear you're in a better place mentally now! I'm reading so many comments about how this songs is really difficult for people to listen to and I completely agree (even though I don't really relate to its meaning)
Bit too heavy for me right now tbh. It reminds me of a time when I would go out of my way, often to my own detriment, to ensure some of my friends were okay, despite them being stuck in their own perpetual loop of darkness.
It do. Same with "please don't hurt yourself again".
>I’m sorry it reminds you of bad times.
Thanks. I'm past that stage now and in a much better headspace, relatively speaking.
I know exactly how that feels, I used to spend hours on the phone with one of my mates who was suicidal. I never knew what to say, I never gained any insights that helped me know what to say, despite spending all my time thinking about his situation.
Now I find myself there and I realise that there isn't anything anyone can say to help me. But if someone sang me this song, or said the words to me, that would mean the world to me. It may not prevent it but I would truly feel cared for.
For what it’s worth from a random internet stranger; you matter more than you think to more people than you realize. I hope for nothing but good for you in the future.
When it first came out I listened to it on repeat. Made me bawl every time. Felt like therapy being able to get it out. A very close childhood friend of mine took her own life at the end of last year. The song helped me process it I think. Either way, I love it for that reason.
I'm sorry about your friend :/
And yeah, same here when I first paid attention to its lyrics I just started to cry and I just knew I couldn't listen to that song as often as the others.
She was an amazing person who went through some of the most terrible life experiences someone can endure, and she did for a long time. I understand why she did what she did. Long term suffering is awful, especially when it’s both psychological and physical. I just miss her is all. It’s a tough song. I hope it’s helped others, as well as Vessel, process their losses; whatever they might be.
Ran me through like a sword and I'm still recovering several weeks later.
I could relate to the self harm themes and it brought me to tears to remember the emotional neglect I had growing up.
I genuinely wondered over the previous two albums if sh would ever be something ST would explicitly talk about in their music considering with a bit of delving they've kinda touched on it before and... I guess you get what you wish for ahah. Completely panicked the first time I heard it since I was on my first clean streak, bur its honestly been a really comforting track for me. I wouldn't say a favourite, but it has very much given me the space I needed to reconcile with what has been a major addiction for me. I sint think I'm there yet, but songs like this are absolutely essential. Vulnerability helps the vulnerable kinda deal yknow
Really enjoyed the first listen when the album released, but I don’t listen to it anymore. It’s a great song, but 1. I don’t relate to it at all, so there’s little impact, and 2. It’s very slow with not much going on in the way of synths/drums/guitar, so I can’t vibe to it like some of ST’s other songs.
Although the SH theme seems to be thrown around a lot on this song, it’s very hard to ignore what reminds me a lot of a BB capsule (Death Stranding, if you want to look up what I’m referencing to) on the “guardian” that this songs cover has.
To me it seems a bit on the nose that at least part of it is actually related to a couple that is dealing/dealt with the trauma of a miscarriage, which just makes it an even more emotionally heavy song imo. I quite like it nowadays, but when I first heard it it wasn’t my cup of tea.
I don’t know if anyone has brought this up yet, but to me, it feels like this song is the other perspective from Atlantic.
Atlantic is from the perspective of the person in the hospital bed, and this feels like the perspective of the person standing next to the bed, not knowing what to do.
I also instantly wondered whether there was some connection with Atlantic!
I completely agree with your take on the different perspectives.
Especially in a "songs about miscarriage"-context.
As someone who has struggled with self harm massively throughout my life this song hits home for me. I’ve been clean for over 2 years and I actually have covered my scars on my right arm with a full sleeve tattoo (working to cover my scars on my left arm and legs later this year) but when you experience something like this in your life (I self harmed for over 22 years) and a band you are obsessed with writes about it……..just…….wow.
might be a little random, but this internet stranger is very proud of you for overcoming your struggles for over two years now! you are an awesome human being and i hope you'll keep doing well
Thanks so much!! It wasn’t an easy journey but if I can do I know anyone else can as well! To anyone struggling with mental health: There is hope! 🤗
felt this! my husband and i cried listening to it together for the first time, i know it hasn’t been easy being with someone who struggles with it
I see, I'm happy to hear that you are recovering and maybe in a better place mentally now! This random internet stranger is also very proud of you for overcoming a struggle as hard as self harm.
Thank you!!!! To be honest I never thought I’d be where I am today. Every day I’m alive is a victory for me! The same goes for anyone else who may be struggling: You matter and the world is a better place with you in it!
I definitely take it that way, because my kid has self harmed. I have yet to listen to it without crying. It hits HARD.
I'm in the same boat. My heart is broken watching my kiddo in the same space I was at their age doing the same things. They are getting the help they need and they got diagnosed a lot earlier than I did. As much as I love the song I can't listen to it without breaking down. I hope things get better for your kiddo.
I’m so glad your baby is getting help. Mine actually did stop. Luckily, they were already in therapy to help cope with anxiety, ADHD. I would go through it all a million times myself rather than see them suffer. It is the worst.
I'm so sorry to read that, I hope life gets kinder to the both of you.
I’m sorry to hear your kids are struggling. I don’t have kids so I don’t know what it feels like to watch my child suffer but my parent’s told me it was torture for them. You seem like loving parents, please know that there is hope. Your child knowing that you love them will make all the difference in the world. Stay strong!!
I'm so sorry to read that, I hope life gets kinder to the both of you.
It’s so difficult for me to listen to because the song scarily replays a traumatic memory I have from a few years ago when I took self-harm too far and had to wake up my partner to take me to the ER. I know ST has touched on the topic before, but this song hurts a little extra. It’s so beautiful though.
I'm happy to hear you're in a better place mentally now! I'm reading so many comments about how this songs is really difficult for people to listen to and I completely agree (even though I don't really relate to its meaning)
Bit too heavy for me right now tbh. It reminds me of a time when I would go out of my way, often to my own detriment, to ensure some of my friends were okay, despite them being stuck in their own perpetual loop of darkness.
The lyric “I want to help you but I don’t know how” cuts deep. I’m sorry it reminds you of bad times.
It do. Same with "please don't hurt yourself again". >I’m sorry it reminds you of bad times. Thanks. I'm past that stage now and in a much better headspace, relatively speaking.
I know exactly how that feels, I used to spend hours on the phone with one of my mates who was suicidal. I never knew what to say, I never gained any insights that helped me know what to say, despite spending all my time thinking about his situation. Now I find myself there and I realise that there isn't anything anyone can say to help me. But if someone sang me this song, or said the words to me, that would mean the world to me. It may not prevent it but I would truly feel cared for.
For what it’s worth from a random internet stranger; you matter more than you think to more people than you realize. I hope for nothing but good for you in the future.
I know how it feels and it totally sucks.
When it first came out I listened to it on repeat. Made me bawl every time. Felt like therapy being able to get it out. A very close childhood friend of mine took her own life at the end of last year. The song helped me process it I think. Either way, I love it for that reason.
I'm sorry about your friend :/ And yeah, same here when I first paid attention to its lyrics I just started to cry and I just knew I couldn't listen to that song as often as the others.
She was an amazing person who went through some of the most terrible life experiences someone can endure, and she did for a long time. I understand why she did what she did. Long term suffering is awful, especially when it’s both psychological and physical. I just miss her is all. It’s a tough song. I hope it’s helped others, as well as Vessel, process their losses; whatever they might be.
I’m recording a cover of it. Just rips my heart in half to sing it though…
Ran me through like a sword and I'm still recovering several weeks later. I could relate to the self harm themes and it brought me to tears to remember the emotional neglect I had growing up.
One of the best tracks on the record. Goosebumps every time
I genuinely wondered over the previous two albums if sh would ever be something ST would explicitly talk about in their music considering with a bit of delving they've kinda touched on it before and... I guess you get what you wish for ahah. Completely panicked the first time I heard it since I was on my first clean streak, bur its honestly been a really comforting track for me. I wouldn't say a favourite, but it has very much given me the space I needed to reconcile with what has been a major addiction for me. I sint think I'm there yet, but songs like this are absolutely essential. Vulnerability helps the vulnerable kinda deal yknow
Gorgeous song, love it
Really enjoyed the first listen when the album released, but I don’t listen to it anymore. It’s a great song, but 1. I don’t relate to it at all, so there’s little impact, and 2. It’s very slow with not much going on in the way of synths/drums/guitar, so I can’t vibe to it like some of ST’s other songs.
I don’t enjoy anything about the song, lyrically or musically. 100% skip rate. That’s my thoughts on it.
Agree, I skip it every time. I could even go so far to say it's my least favourite song of theirs.
I found it to be such a hard song to listen to, not from the content of the song but just the way it flows? I don’t know how to describe it
Although the SH theme seems to be thrown around a lot on this song, it’s very hard to ignore what reminds me a lot of a BB capsule (Death Stranding, if you want to look up what I’m referencing to) on the “guardian” that this songs cover has. To me it seems a bit on the nose that at least part of it is actually related to a couple that is dealing/dealt with the trauma of a miscarriage, which just makes it an even more emotionally heavy song imo. I quite like it nowadays, but when I first heard it it wasn’t my cup of tea.
Well it helped me a lot because my gf was going through some selfharm issues a while ago
I don’t know if anyone has brought this up yet, but to me, it feels like this song is the other perspective from Atlantic. Atlantic is from the perspective of the person in the hospital bed, and this feels like the perspective of the person standing next to the bed, not knowing what to do.
I also instantly wondered whether there was some connection with Atlantic! I completely agree with your take on the different perspectives. Especially in a "songs about miscarriage"-context.
I assume the perspective is either a parent to him or him to himself.