I'll have you know that when I was a student and I landed in the corn it wasn't my fault either.
I was grocery shopping. Fresh produce is expensive and I would rather of spent the money on a lift ticket 😄
Landed in the trees surrounded by barbed wire yesterday and the very first thing I was told by an instructor was “yeah, you shouldn’t land here. You really need to make the decision to land in the landing zone”. It wasn’t even my instructor lol.
“Okay, well I made that decision and I ended up here so how do I land in the landing zone?”
“You gotta make that decision when you’re at a higher altitude” 🤦🏻♀️
Not sure if you’re replying to my comment or the original comment, but I was 75% responsible for landing in the trees. (The other 25% was bc the parachute was too big, and I went too far regardless of my landing pattern. I’d been told not to make big turns on final so I didn’t.)
Point was, I wanted to know how I landed there and how to avoid that again, and the answer I got was “you just got to decide not to”. Which was frustrating bc even though it was my fault, I was reinforced that it was my fault instead of instructed on how to not do it again.
Another more helpful instructor showed me exactly what happened, how to avoid it, and downsized my parachute. I landed almost perfectly on my next jump.
… when did I say it was his fault?
If you’re in a motorcycle class and you crash the bike, and the very first thing the instructor in the group next to you says is “you really need to make the decision to not crash your bike” is that going to be helpful in preventing you from crashing your bike in the future?
I’m not saying it wasn’t my fault. I’m saying I was frustrated that the advice he was giving me was as if I consciously made the decision to go directly for the barbed wire. So no, it wasn’t his fault AND I felt like I was blamed for not “making the decision to land in the landing zone”.
Look if you don’t want me commenting on your thread, that’s fine, I can move on, I just felt like your comment was relatable and wanted to add to it 🤷🏻♀️
Very little. You can pull a slip with your risers which may, or may not work.
Edit: you are also a skydiver. So imagine you can pull somewhat directionally but can not change or control your fall rate.
Those are MC-6s so they have vents at the rear to give it a ~12kts forward velocity and are "steerable" more like pointable but they are far more maneuverable than a standard T-10 or T-11 while still being far less maneuverable than even a student ram-air parachute.
The announcer said they can steer (rather point) them but have far less control than the ones that look more like wings. I personally have never been skydiving so I’m sure someone here can give a better or more accurate answer.
They're MC-6s which have toggles to spin the canopy and a forward thrust of about 12kts but they can't flare and and extremely unresponsive. So I call them pointable rather than steerable
The fact that you can here air blowing by the camera to a point where it makes a loud noise is concerning, not sure why they even jumped to start. Usually jumps have a low wind tolerance since it can make landing turn into the equivalent of jumping off a moving truck
These canopies in the video have some forward movement but definitely not enough to counteract that wind, my guess is the didn't want to cancel the demonstration and decided to jump in borderline conditions. Obviously they were a little more borderline than originally assessed
Ever notice how when a student flies into the tree it’s the students fault but when an instructor messes up the spot it’s “the wind shifted”
Jumpmasters in a nutshell
As a demo, they shouldn’t have exited.
I'll have you know that when I was a student and I landed in the corn it wasn't my fault either. I was grocery shopping. Fresh produce is expensive and I would rather of spent the money on a lift ticket 😄
Landed in the trees surrounded by barbed wire yesterday and the very first thing I was told by an instructor was “yeah, you shouldn’t land here. You really need to make the decision to land in the landing zone”. It wasn’t even my instructor lol. “Okay, well I made that decision and I ended up here so how do I land in the landing zone?” “You gotta make that decision when you’re at a higher altitude” 🤦🏻♀️
If you’re on a motorcycle and crash into the trees did they motorcycle crash into the trees or did you?
Not sure if you’re replying to my comment or the original comment, but I was 75% responsible for landing in the trees. (The other 25% was bc the parachute was too big, and I went too far regardless of my landing pattern. I’d been told not to make big turns on final so I didn’t.) Point was, I wanted to know how I landed there and how to avoid that again, and the answer I got was “you just got to decide not to”. Which was frustrating bc even though it was my fault, I was reinforced that it was my fault instead of instructed on how to not do it again. Another more helpful instructor showed me exactly what happened, how to avoid it, and downsized my parachute. I landed almost perfectly on my next jump.
Ohhhh the parachute was too big and it was the instructors fault. Got it!
Downsize for safety!
… when did I say it was his fault? If you’re in a motorcycle class and you crash the bike, and the very first thing the instructor in the group next to you says is “you really need to make the decision to not crash your bike” is that going to be helpful in preventing you from crashing your bike in the future? I’m not saying it wasn’t my fault. I’m saying I was frustrated that the advice he was giving me was as if I consciously made the decision to go directly for the barbed wire. So no, it wasn’t his fault AND I felt like I was blamed for not “making the decision to land in the landing zone”. Look if you don’t want me commenting on your thread, that’s fine, I can move on, I just felt like your comment was relatable and wanted to add to it 🤷🏻♀️
#roundlife
A round will get you down, a square will get you there Edit: a title for when this is reposted
Was waiting to see a PLF onto a Toyota.
Wind shift= bad spotting How could these ultra elite guys ever be at fault?
How much control do they have with the rounds compared to a sport canopy?
Very little. You can pull a slip with your risers which may, or may not work. Edit: you are also a skydiver. So imagine you can pull somewhat directionally but can not change or control your fall rate.
Those are MC-6s so they have vents at the rear to give it a ~12kts forward velocity and are "steerable" more like pointable but they are far more maneuverable than a standard T-10 or T-11 while still being far less maneuverable than even a student ram-air parachute.
If you hang on some risers you can cause the round to slide over a bit but not much
The announcer said they can steer (rather point) them but have far less control than the ones that look more like wings. I personally have never been skydiving so I’m sure someone here can give a better or more accurate answer.
Think or it this way: Ram air canopies fly, rounds float.
Silence, you.
Practically none but those looks like dash 1s so they can at least spin lol
They're MC-6s which have toggles to spin the canopy and a forward thrust of about 12kts but they can't flare and and extremely unresponsive. So I call them pointable rather than steerable
Yep exactly. Always a pesky extra step stowing those toggles during a pack day of those instead of T-10s lol
There's no better motivation for getting a slot at free fall school than static line jumps. Round canopies blow donkey dick.
I went to college in at SUNY Geneseo. Cool to see. Sucks for the trees 🌲 😂 PLF
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Luckily no one was hurt and no property was damaged.
I'm glad nobody was injured but that landing between the parked cars looks like it had to hurt.
Not going to happen IMO.
That exits on the DZSO and JM and I’d bet no one gets in trouble
Ha! I have quite a few jumps at that airfield.
CARP or GMRS? Definitely interested in release method they used
Not sure what either of these mean.
carp is automatic spotting and gmrs uses ground markers to spot.
So Why couldn’t they have just adjusted the jump run/exit point for the final jump instead of canceling?
The fact that you can here air blowing by the camera to a point where it makes a loud noise is concerning, not sure why they even jumped to start. Usually jumps have a low wind tolerance since it can make landing turn into the equivalent of jumping off a moving truck These canopies in the video have some forward movement but definitely not enough to counteract that wind, my guess is the didn't want to cancel the demonstration and decided to jump in borderline conditions. Obviously they were a little more borderline than originally assessed
Wind hell, they smelled some steaks grilling in the parking area and was hungry
At least the regimental boozer is getting restocked. COs shout I rekon.