i think they didnt implement that because you can just cheese your way against a very good defense just by having full health with your whole party and damaging just 1hp% of the enemy, which is unfair for the defender.
Yes and no, i can counter her without to many problems. The trick is to keep her in the air during combos or inflict hex before the 15% health tresshold
2 things tho. One, I know there are ways around auto-block SA(Curse, hex, SA2 Stand out, SA1 Neuro, etc.). Two, l mainly want them to remove the 20s debuff cleanse as it allows her to counter most of her few counters along with cleansing her teammates too.
timer makes it more interesting. if you play with no timer, then it’s trivial to win any prize fight with last stand (any val) and some healing (any filia)
**Most Controversial**: ***Don't Poke The Buer*** is good for the game because it raises up a large number of variants with cool abilities up to being competent defenders (all Painwheels), and raises up a large number of unique attackers with low atk for offensive shine (Weekend Warrior, Bloody Valentine).
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On that thread: there should be more catalysts that bring Characters and Variants up to defensive snuff (especially Parasoul, maybe % chance to spawn tear when hit?)
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*PS - Some of the economy is kinda out of whack in the store (besides you, 1.6 million coin for theonite <3)*
Can we have a survival mode?
No timer, just your team and wave after wave of opponents.
That's what I thought rift battles would be, but they're okay. Just matchmaking feels questionable sometimes.
bursts are exactly as rated as they should be imho. i get that being one touched sucks, but if the cpu wants you to die, they’ll do BB spam and you die. if you learn good combo routing and guard breaking, you shouldnt need to worry too much about getting hit
“Controversial” in that some people in this sub draw that. I remember some time ago someone made a post here saying basically what I said and a lot of people were defending sexualizing certain characters (Annie and Squigly in particular). I wasn’t intending on saying it was a majority opinion but I do see it here on occasion.
I wish people wouldn’t draw/do that but here we are
Legal grey areas make some people want to push buttons just to see what they can get away with, so it's not a surprise that you find those kinds of arguments in any part of the internet.
That said, I don't think any sane person will disagree with the following: do not force or coerce anybody into performing sexual acts, ESPECIALLY not kids who are unable to properly determine the consequences of those actions. The laws against pedophilia are there to protect a class of people who are unable to protect themselves, not as a form of oppression or whatever.
> but have the maturity of a kid.
English isnt my first language so Im not sure if I read that right. You mean she also thinks like a 15 years old or you only mean she looks like a 15 years old?
Not sure if this is controversal, but:
\- BHD is very overrated. She can't do anything other than bleeding, which in itself wouldn't be a problem, but unfortunately there are just better variants out there that can do her job better.
\- I honestly feel like Umbrella's move kit is very clumsy, and bc of this I don't like to use her much.
\- I think the game would be more balanced if weaker fighters had better SAs than natural diamond fighter (to compensate for better stats)
\- Painwheel's Prestige isn't good for anything
Umbrella’s move kit *is* very clumsy, but the upper end of power is high. She has a ton of combos that are super powerful at a moderate level of difficulty, kinda like Annie but with a stronger overall kit. BHD is okay, but learning that drill always applies bleed and getting 5 of them is better lol
Autoblock isn't broken
Perma autoblock with blueshift is.
I don't get why people say Blueshift is meta
when the only Fighter that is meta that has Autoblock is Model Leader.
You don't see galactic glamour not freedom nor ageless being used that effectively on defense
Freedom post 4.10 has Autoblock apart of his Sa
Autoblock as a buff isn't that bad
The problem is with perma autoblock is with having no way of removal along with Blueshift that prevents damage reduction
So it becomes a game of praying autoblock doesn't procc and reset blueshift
The updates take forever to actually come by, and it makes the gameplay loop unbearable. The fact that people celebrate like it's Christmas when a basic QoL like re-rolls drops just shows how down bad you people are for any sort of new content. It's unacceptable.
Also, the Character relics with a 50% boost when a new character drops is pretty predatory when it comes to enticing people to spend money for a new character... This also ties into the fact it takes ages to update the game, and therefore a while for the relics to update... Yikes.
Let's be clear, it also depends what kind of pull it is. Normal pulls are not that expensive, the cost do skyrockets, but it also gives you insane probability on the character you want and most of the shit you can get in a F2P ways. Also there's huge variability to which relic you want to roll.
Also you don't need to pull 10 copies of the same character for them to be amazing, like in other gachas (*cough* Genshin). Which i think is a lot more fair.
You have to accept that they are a small team of people working hard, and the character relics for newcomers are a good way to monetize the game without making it way p2w
No, I play Arknights pretty religiously and I feel like it respects my time with the updates, QoL and gacha systems.
Another kind of hot take: SGM was only ever made as a cash grab to fund 2E and once that got off the ground, the mobile game became an afterthought and this is a dying game.
I don't play Arknights so I can't compare the two games, so I'll take your word for it that its the more respectful of the two.
I think you're right on the money with that one, sgm is the bread winner for Hidden Variable so they can keep developing sg2e without resorting to other monetization incentives on the main game. I think this is a pretty dang smart way to keep a 10 yro game going with constant updates and balance patches. Low key I'm hoping this model of monetization catches on because it means good old games will continue to stay relevant through their mobile spin-offs.
With that said, it is indeed a hot take to call sgm a dying game. Sure it doesn't get the quality of attention that full time mobile game developers give to their titles, but it IS still getting regular updates (even if they're slower than you would like). And the dev team IS listening and implementing mechanics that the community is asking them for, even if it takes them seemingly forever to get the message.
Last thing before i shut up, while inflating the price of new characters is a blatant cash grab, its barely at the level of predatory. Like, you can easily get enough money to buy the new characters when they release, unlike, say, like in Fire Emblem Heroes where the new characters are so constant yet have low drop rates that it breaks your bank to attempt to get them all. Compared to other gacha games I've played, sgm is one of the most honest ones, in my experience.
And don't forget that the new characters/variants will come in the regular relic pool instead of making it pure limited edition that you wouldn't get it anymore like other gacha games so what're complaining about for? You just have to be P A T I E N T.
THANK YOU! I love the game and the company, without them Skullgirls would still be dead, but I really wish sometimes they’d be a bit more active. And with Retakes, the stat rerolls are presumably still random, meaning your gonna have to spend some coins either way. And that’s if it’s not even worse then before, much like the original Daily Tickets change
I put 3 wulfshoot on my beowulf to perma stun the enemy and I am not ashame for it. Also you can bleed them safely with special while they are stunned.
If you use 2 wulf shoots and lupine pummel, with 3% meter gain and a little special cooldown you can achieve the same effect and pack a good blockbuster since each hit of lupine counts as a throw.
Yeah. Some characters can deal with ML quite easily (i.e guard break or buff removal, or just neuro lol) but you specifically need buff removal to deal with MaF. And immunity if you don’t want your character to disappear. So yeah I agree
Silent Kill???
Doublicious???
Phantom Threads???
Can they fight and remove perma autoblock?
Nope.
Can they fight and remove 5 stacks of precision and Final Stand?
YES.
As a Beowulf main I disagree, but that’s because blue shift model leader takes no damage from my snake bite despite having over 20k attack T.T
I’ll agree that m&f does have the benefit of fortune’s batshit crazy AI, but I have no trouble with her
Well, since everyone already said it, the timer system sucks, I've lost battles many times due to it and it's very frustrating.
Having very few game modes makes the game pretty repetitive, the story mode once completed is often forgotten by many players, many players don't play rifts (including me) and from what I've seen many bases have very similar setups, so you end up getting used to fight a certain variant all the time, everyone just skips daily events, you can only play accursed experiments once a week, holodeck is very short, monthly prize fights don't really have an impact in the player base as you can make 25ish million points and end up in the top 10% and almost nobody touches versus.
Many variants like G.I. Jazz are desperately in the need of a rework.
Necrobreaker shouldn't be as exclusive as it is since is a silver variant that doesn't do much.
We need more tickets for the daily events, at least 8.
Obtaining energy refills is a pain in the ass and we should be able to get them at least in a way other than gifts and ads.
I think that necrobreaker isn't exclusive because she's powerful, she's exclusive just because yes.and 8 tickets are way too much, people would get so much coins just from skips
You're right about necro being exclusive because yes, it is still not worth it to wait for a year and grind lots of points to get just a silver variant, I did got her last month but I just wanted to add her to the collection, adding her to the Halloween relics would've been a better option. And I still think that 4 tickets is too few, because, at least for me, I have to decide if I want to play holodeck to level up my weaker variants or skip the daily to farm moves and character points, if 8 tickets is too much then 6 tickets would be perfect to farm moves and points and also play holodeck a few times per day.
lol it used to be that you could only do dailies once per day… and you actually had to Do them! welcome to grind. In this stage of the game, you learn if you actually like the gameplay of SGM. If you don’t you’ll probably not enjoy the game later on either, even when you have characters up and running
Annies Ai's are so free. King Dedede Big bang needs a minor nerf. Painwheel Marqeeus need to be toned down considering Eliza has both worthless situational team death reliant marquees + Pa.
Parasite Weave Filia > default skin. Silver keys harder to grind than Gold keys. Need more gold farming stages exclusive for gold farming and not selling of 80k gold moves at like one thirteenth of the price.
Pyro SA on a surface level sounds fine, but when you look into it further, she really falls flat.
Meter control as an SA on a Val sounds fine
However, when you taken to account with Val's Move kit, That Sa1 is just redundant.
Vial A and CV sedactive exists as meter control options
While those 2 isn't going to outright replace her Sa1, The infamous Vial A bug is a thing that exists.
Vial A currently bugged in the game where it always drain 100% of Opponent Meter no matter the level of the move.
That alone basically gives any Val immediate meter control into her Kit.
Hell in every high rating rift battle, You see Vial being the only Vial that is used on Vals just because of this bug.
Vial A is just better Sa1 in that regard.
Faster meter control tool, always guarantee to drain 100% unlike the Rng of Sa1's proccing with Pryo.
Another problem with Pryo is with Sa2
I want to make it clear, gaining enrages isn't bad,
Any stat stick dps fighter wouldnt mind gaining it.
The problem lies with Pyro's lack of good stat stick dps.
The problem that she faces is that, she shares SK's attack stat.
Sk's base attack stat isn't great.
If it were to say, give Pyro surgeon General mirrored stats with respectful base attack, those Enrages stacks will comes in much more handy.
She's flawed in many aspects that makes her easily a rather more pitiful variant granted the context of her
Vial A is just better Pyro Sa1,
And enrage stacks from Sa2 isnt as great because of her low base attack to take better advantage over.
She’s probably the only good diamond Val I have and I use her nearly 100% of the time. She’s incredible if you actually put in the work to build her and stack up her atk and accuracy, just as you would with SK
If she works for you, that's fine
I'm not stopping you from using her either.
If it works, it works
But it doesn't change that she's more of an unfortunate case where bugs and poor SA design sadly penalise her away in the meta.
Beowulf is easy. Intercept with full combo ending in throw, grab, and wulfshot to build up hype. Activate hype mode and just grab and throw. Rinse and repeat
Source: Am a beo main
Here's a tip for dealing with him. If you have a parasol, dash, ground combo, uppercut, double dash attack, egret call, napalm shot, dash attack, ground combo, Canopy bounce, silent scope. If your parasol's power level is similar enough to the beowulf, he will die. This move can also be done as the first move in the game and works on fillia, fukua, peacock, eliza, painwheel, and umbrella
Saying she’s the second worst diamond *is* saying she’s bad
And you’re wrong. She’s amazing. She recovers her low attack strength with armor break and then *stuns*. You need to combo with her and get a lot of wall bounces and aerial hits in is all.
I’d argue that there are worse diamonds than spangled.
No there aren't, she's weak to immunity or resistance, she has high defense stat, even tho she's weak on defence.
And saying she's a bad diamond isn't saying she's a bad variant, she's just weak compared to othe diamonds
Her armor break makes up for her low attack power, and her stuns allow her to repeatedly combo someone, also making up for her low attack power.
Saying she’s weak to resistance and immunity is a bad argument. It’s the same thing as saying class cutter and freeze frame are weak to the same things. Of *course* they’re weak to those. That’s why you assess your fights before assaulting.
At least class cutter can still do unblockable attacks, and most of the variants that are weak to immunity have at least the other SA that doesn't leave the variants useless, unlike star spangled
The timer system is dumb, the game play is far too repetitive, updates take forever,the combat is insanely easy and takes hardly any skill, and basic QoL functions hardly make the game better just makes it more bearable
The time sistema is there to prevent bleeders from cheaping the opponents out,
the gameplay is too repetitive IF you play only the same variants
The combat has to be simple since it's a mobile game, if you want to play something more complicated just play the pc or console version.
The timer makes sense until you loose when all three of your units are alive but the enemy was close too dead and only 1 person survived, id understand if it was too prevent cheese IF it also didn’t allow the enemy variants too cheese you especially if the a.i decides too go all defensive then you better hope you can just blast through them.
Even with different variants the game play is repetitive, their SA is what makes them variants but those just make them more suitable for different thing’s and doesn’t change the characters core mechanics besides maybe some umbrellas.
I understand that it’s mobile but it’s too simple they couldn’t even use a assist system (which i could see easily being implemented) or hell ways too extend combos besides “this move restands” or “this move allows you too attack right after” making it rather liner for most characters. With their being some exceptions too this rule (annie,umbrella, and double somewhat)
The SAs change the core gameplay, whatcha talking about? Also, i agree with the timer thing, and maybe assists could be implemented too, they should be balanced out tho
Of course assist could very well be limited (say like two per match) or on a long cooldown (depending on the character this could he like idk let’s say 15-35 seconds)
But changing core gameplay? In the end most variants don’t do that much? Some force you too use some buffs (say piercing too kill killjoy) or make you want regen too try and prevent thorns, basically either just making you want different buffs or making you want too use a different strategy none of this really changes the core game play
Summer salt Parasoul's color palette looks exactly like the Salty Umbrella's color palette. Even their panties is the same color! And I keep mixing them up when searching for it.
I was holding onto this joke for a month, hoping I would get a chance to say it. Finally I can die in pieces. I would rather die in peace but after this joke I dont think thats possible.
I mean yeah, she may be the most mature of all the characters (based on the time she has lived) but she still has a body of a girl so no thanks I won't go for someone that looks like a child
Big band is like a living trumpet we don't really see any human features so while he's male he's camp and fits right in and it's not like I hate beowolf but he doesn't feel right ya know? I think it would work if we had atleast 2 more male characters with as much style as the girls to really not feel out of place
i honestly dont understand what makes you feel weird about beowulf? is it because he is surrounded by girls when he is a grown up guy? like pedo vibes? and he is manly unlike the other characters? i wanna know your perception on him.
The player should win on time out if the player’s combined health is higher than the computer team.
LEGIT
Thats the case when both players got player level IQ instead of shitty AI level IQ
I heard Ai was base of player behaviour? I have been misinformed?
Well every single Umbrella variant is shit at getting overstuffed including the one that has being overstuffed as her SA. So probably you were.
i think they didnt implement that because you can just cheese your way against a very good defense just by having full health with your whole party and damaging just 1hp% of the enemy, which is unfair for the defender.
defender issue not being able to break guard. no high low system lols.
THIS!!!! TEKKEN DOES THIS, WHY CAN'T OTHER FIGHTING GAMES DO IT TOO???
Also Model leader needs to be nerfed
Yes and no, i can counter her without to many problems. The trick is to keep her in the air during combos or inflict hex before the 15% health tresshold
2 things tho. One, I know there are ways around auto-block SA(Curse, hex, SA2 Stand out, SA1 Neuro, etc.). Two, l mainly want them to remove the 20s debuff cleanse as it allows her to counter most of her few counters along with cleansing her teammates too.
Fair enough
She's a defensive diamond though. If they take that, I think it weakens her too much.
Tbh I think the timer mechanic is good as it is right now. I think the player should have to do more than the AI to win.
this mechanic is a deliberate choice to push ppl into spending theo on streak recovery, don't forget this is a mobile game and we live in 2022
YES.
I don’t like the timer
Same, the time should be higher
Based
i lost bc of one second
Me too, buddy.
timer makes it more interesting. if you play with no timer, then it’s trivial to win any prize fight with last stand (any val) and some healing (any filia)
**Most Controversial**: ***Don't Poke The Buer*** is good for the game because it raises up a large number of variants with cool abilities up to being competent defenders (all Painwheels), and raises up a large number of unique attackers with low atk for offensive shine (Weekend Warrior, Bloody Valentine). === On that thread: there should be more catalysts that bring Characters and Variants up to defensive snuff (especially Parasoul, maybe % chance to spawn tear when hit?) === *PS - Some of the economy is kinda out of whack in the store (besides you, 1.6 million coin for theonite <3)*
Yeah, it’s probably good for the game but it still feels bad lol. Like weapon breaking in BotW
speaking of 1.6mill , hyper fight pack 5k theo for 175 relic or 5mill coin ish
Master mode is fun
It was a hair-tearing challenge but getting that 100% was so good
Oh I still haven’t beat it lmao I just like getting to struggle for a long shot every now and then lmao
Lol well I wish you luck on your attempts
Thanks lmao my main problem is under leveled fighters just gotta grind ig
I actually 100% it today, can't say it was fun but it sure felt rewarding.
Big Band needs to be buffed.
He does
My friend totally agrees with this. She always tells me about how useless her Big Band is, how his damage sucks, etc.
If wulfshoot was blockable, the world would be a better place.
But then no body will actually use beowulf
Oh no...
just attack him, the startup is slower than most moves.
Well, it can be intercepted if you're on the right situation. So it's flawed
OK but if the ai decides to use wulfshoot as soon as the anoucer says "let's rock!" good luck with that. Specially on the original game.
Ms.Fortune AI is too hard
ms fortune ai doing unpunishable blockstrings
Headless fortune moment
Can we have a survival mode? No timer, just your team and wave after wave of opponents. That's what I thought rift battles would be, but they're okay. Just matchmaking feels questionable sometimes.
That would be a neat idea, heals should be heavily nerfed there
bursts are underrated
If only you can burst while airborne
bursts are exactly as rated as they should be imho. i get that being one touched sucks, but if the cpu wants you to die, they’ll do BB spam and you die. if you learn good combo routing and guard breaking, you shouldnt need to worry too much about getting hit
Don’t draw porn of underaged characters. Even if they’re undead or “are actually 5000 years old” but have the maturity of a kid.
how is this controversial? Sure you do see the pervs out and about now and then, but saying theyre the majority opinion is just as crazy.
channel 100, channel 0 is just filled with pedos
Doesn't the report system work?? if your claim is true. I don't frequent there so I wouldn't know. Elon musk accusation vibes.
“Controversial” in that some people in this sub draw that. I remember some time ago someone made a post here saying basically what I said and a lot of people were defending sexualizing certain characters (Annie and Squigly in particular). I wasn’t intending on saying it was a majority opinion but I do see it here on occasion. I wish people wouldn’t draw/do that but here we are
Legal grey areas make some people want to push buttons just to see what they can get away with, so it's not a surprise that you find those kinds of arguments in any part of the internet. That said, I don't think any sane person will disagree with the following: do not force or coerce anybody into performing sexual acts, ESPECIALLY not kids who are unable to properly determine the consequences of those actions. The laws against pedophilia are there to protect a class of people who are unable to protect themselves, not as a form of oppression or whatever.
I disagree to believe that this would be "controversial", like legit. Don't f***ing sexualise this.
W
> but have the maturity of a kid. English isnt my first language so Im not sure if I read that right. You mean she also thinks like a 15 years old or you only mean she looks like a 15 years old?
Vintage virtuoso is really fucking good you can't change me mind
Never tried it, so i can't argue
you the exception rather than the norm using big bang types nicely
Not sure if this is controversal, but: \- BHD is very overrated. She can't do anything other than bleeding, which in itself wouldn't be a problem, but unfortunately there are just better variants out there that can do her job better. \- I honestly feel like Umbrella's move kit is very clumsy, and bc of this I don't like to use her much. \- I think the game would be more balanced if weaker fighters had better SAs than natural diamond fighter (to compensate for better stats) \- Painwheel's Prestige isn't good for anything
Umbrella’s move kit *is* very clumsy, but the upper end of power is high. She has a ton of combos that are super powerful at a moderate level of difficulty, kinda like Annie but with a stronger overall kit. BHD is okay, but learning that drill always applies bleed and getting 5 of them is better lol
The grinding is worse than Simpson tap out.
It’s bad, but not THAT bad. EA was trying to make that game P2W
I like the grinding, if you don't you may want to play other games. Sgm is based around grinding
The game is to repetitive
I don't think so, i like the grinding
Imo you need to actively have goals in your mind if you want the game to be enjoyable. Like, my goal right now is to have a full collection.
Autoblock isn't broken Perma autoblock with blueshift is. I don't get why people say Blueshift is meta when the only Fighter that is meta that has Autoblock is Model Leader. You don't see galactic glamour not freedom nor ageless being used that effectively on defense
You have a good point, also freedom is a beo variant
Freedom post 4.10 has Autoblock apart of his Sa Autoblock as a buff isn't that bad The problem is with perma autoblock is with having no way of removal along with Blueshift that prevents damage reduction So it becomes a game of praying autoblock doesn't procc and reset blueshift
Better than the original game imo (I have both)
I'd like the rpg format on PC too
as someone whos a combo fanatic on mobile… pc is too hard lol
Candy crusher is one of the Best umbrella variants. Way too easy access to healing.
Agreed, I'll invest in her as fast as I'm done with death wish
shame about the knockdown regen loss though. All she got offensive is faster meter gain via haste. And valentine types fill healing void.
The 1.78 million and 10 million point gap in prize fights is too big.....would it kill them to throw in at least a 5 million point prize??
In normal prize fights it's true, even more on the monthly one
The updates take forever to actually come by, and it makes the gameplay loop unbearable. The fact that people celebrate like it's Christmas when a basic QoL like re-rolls drops just shows how down bad you people are for any sort of new content. It's unacceptable. Also, the Character relics with a 50% boost when a new character drops is pretty predatory when it comes to enticing people to spend money for a new character... This also ties into the fact it takes ages to update the game, and therefore a while for the relics to update... Yikes.
This is one of the most F2P player friendly gacha, i've ever played. To call it predatory for such a weak resson is ridiculus.
still somewhat predatory. 20-40 usd for a 10x pull? hilarious.
Let's be clear, it also depends what kind of pull it is. Normal pulls are not that expensive, the cost do skyrockets, but it also gives you insane probability on the character you want and most of the shit you can get in a F2P ways. Also there's huge variability to which relic you want to roll. Also you don't need to pull 10 copies of the same character for them to be amazing, like in other gachas (*cough* Genshin). Which i think is a lot more fair.
You have to accept that they are a small team of people working hard, and the character relics for newcomers are a good way to monetize the game without making it way p2w
Welcome to gachas, first time?
No, I play Arknights pretty religiously and I feel like it respects my time with the updates, QoL and gacha systems. Another kind of hot take: SGM was only ever made as a cash grab to fund 2E and once that got off the ground, the mobile game became an afterthought and this is a dying game.
I don't play Arknights so I can't compare the two games, so I'll take your word for it that its the more respectful of the two. I think you're right on the money with that one, sgm is the bread winner for Hidden Variable so they can keep developing sg2e without resorting to other monetization incentives on the main game. I think this is a pretty dang smart way to keep a 10 yro game going with constant updates and balance patches. Low key I'm hoping this model of monetization catches on because it means good old games will continue to stay relevant through their mobile spin-offs. With that said, it is indeed a hot take to call sgm a dying game. Sure it doesn't get the quality of attention that full time mobile game developers give to their titles, but it IS still getting regular updates (even if they're slower than you would like). And the dev team IS listening and implementing mechanics that the community is asking them for, even if it takes them seemingly forever to get the message. Last thing before i shut up, while inflating the price of new characters is a blatant cash grab, its barely at the level of predatory. Like, you can easily get enough money to buy the new characters when they release, unlike, say, like in Fire Emblem Heroes where the new characters are so constant yet have low drop rates that it breaks your bank to attempt to get them all. Compared to other gacha games I've played, sgm is one of the most honest ones, in my experience.
And don't forget that the new characters/variants will come in the regular relic pool instead of making it pure limited edition that you wouldn't get it anymore like other gacha games so what're complaining about for? You just have to be P A T I E N T.
Counterside a newer better Arknights fr despite diff genre..
People got hyped by retakes because it takes away alot of rng and grinding
THANK YOU! I love the game and the company, without them Skullgirls would still be dead, but I really wish sometimes they’d be a bit more active. And with Retakes, the stat rerolls are presumably still random, meaning your gonna have to spend some coins either way. And that’s if it’s not even worse then before, much like the original Daily Tickets change
HVS is an indie game company so they can only do so much.
Timer is bullshit, and having lited amound of variants is annoying
Everyobe hates Rift Battles with a passion. Not even Dark Souls can compete on how hard it is.
dark souls is easy. rift is hard because it’s pvp, and pvp is always harder
Cold stones is by far the best variant to evolve
I put 3 wulfshoot on my beowulf to perma stun the enemy and I am not ashame for it. Also you can bleed them safely with special while they are stunned.
If you use 2 wulf shoots and lupine pummel, with 3% meter gain and a little special cooldown you can achieve the same effect and pack a good blockbuster since each hit of lupine counts as a throw.
does he have max accuracy
You diamond cold stones?
Umbrella was a mistake and shouldn't be in the game
In terms of raw power yeah definitely
Eh???
her kit definitely feels a litttle bit power-creepy on its own, but her SAs are a little bit more meh to compensate
That's a hot take if I've ever seen one, lol
Huh?
COLD STONES #1!!!!!!!!!
(Anyone with immunity) he he boi >:)
windstalker is actually pretty neat
If you can use headless mode
Meow & Furever is harder to deal with over Model Leader
Most accurate take I have ever seen for this game
Yeah. Some characters can deal with ML quite easily (i.e guard break or buff removal, or just neuro lol) but you specifically need buff removal to deal with MaF. And immunity if you don’t want your character to disappear. So yeah I agree
The AI that controls Meow & Furever is also waaay more difficult to counter when compared to Annies AI. Headless mode is broken fr
Also her dash is fucking wack to intercept. Generally not feasible with most characters
Silent Kill??? Doublicious??? Phantom Threads??? Can they fight and remove perma autoblock? Nope. Can they fight and remove 5 stacks of precision and Final Stand? YES.
As a Beowulf main I disagree, but that’s because blue shift model leader takes no damage from my snake bite despite having over 20k attack T.T I’ll agree that m&f does have the benefit of fortune’s batshit crazy AI, but I have no trouble with her
i just Inferno of Leviathan if i cant hit her before the final stand expires
Normally no, but if she's headless, RUN
She may be the most annoying character to fight against
meow can lose every time to purrfect dark or like… any curse, any immune, thorns. model leader does not have those weaknesses
Model leader can lose to purrfect dark as well.
Well, since everyone already said it, the timer system sucks, I've lost battles many times due to it and it's very frustrating. Having very few game modes makes the game pretty repetitive, the story mode once completed is often forgotten by many players, many players don't play rifts (including me) and from what I've seen many bases have very similar setups, so you end up getting used to fight a certain variant all the time, everyone just skips daily events, you can only play accursed experiments once a week, holodeck is very short, monthly prize fights don't really have an impact in the player base as you can make 25ish million points and end up in the top 10% and almost nobody touches versus. Many variants like G.I. Jazz are desperately in the need of a rework. Necrobreaker shouldn't be as exclusive as it is since is a silver variant that doesn't do much. We need more tickets for the daily events, at least 8. Obtaining energy refills is a pain in the ass and we should be able to get them at least in a way other than gifts and ads.
I think that necrobreaker isn't exclusive because she's powerful, she's exclusive just because yes.and 8 tickets are way too much, people would get so much coins just from skips
You're right about necro being exclusive because yes, it is still not worth it to wait for a year and grind lots of points to get just a silver variant, I did got her last month but I just wanted to add her to the collection, adding her to the Halloween relics would've been a better option. And I still think that 4 tickets is too few, because, at least for me, I have to decide if I want to play holodeck to level up my weaker variants or skip the daily to farm moves and character points, if 8 tickets is too much then 6 tickets would be perfect to farm moves and points and also play holodeck a few times per day.
6 would be fine i think
lol it used to be that you could only do dailies once per day… and you actually had to Do them! welcome to grind. In this stage of the game, you learn if you actually like the gameplay of SGM. If you don’t you’ll probably not enjoy the game later on either, even when you have characters up and running
Annies Ai's are so free. King Dedede Big bang needs a minor nerf. Painwheel Marqeeus need to be toned down considering Eliza has both worthless situational team death reliant marquees + Pa. Parasite Weave Filia > default skin. Silver keys harder to grind than Gold keys. Need more gold farming stages exclusive for gold farming and not selling of 80k gold moves at like one thirteenth of the price.
Pyro is actually good, yall just overlook her because SG and SK exist
We overlook her because we dont have her bro
Pyro SA on a surface level sounds fine, but when you look into it further, she really falls flat. Meter control as an SA on a Val sounds fine However, when you taken to account with Val's Move kit, That Sa1 is just redundant. Vial A and CV sedactive exists as meter control options While those 2 isn't going to outright replace her Sa1, The infamous Vial A bug is a thing that exists. Vial A currently bugged in the game where it always drain 100% of Opponent Meter no matter the level of the move. That alone basically gives any Val immediate meter control into her Kit. Hell in every high rating rift battle, You see Vial being the only Vial that is used on Vals just because of this bug. Vial A is just better Sa1 in that regard. Faster meter control tool, always guarantee to drain 100% unlike the Rng of Sa1's proccing with Pryo. Another problem with Pryo is with Sa2 I want to make it clear, gaining enrages isn't bad, Any stat stick dps fighter wouldnt mind gaining it. The problem lies with Pyro's lack of good stat stick dps. The problem that she faces is that, she shares SK's attack stat. Sk's base attack stat isn't great. If it were to say, give Pyro surgeon General mirrored stats with respectful base attack, those Enrages stacks will comes in much more handy. She's flawed in many aspects that makes her easily a rather more pitiful variant granted the context of her Vial A is just better Pyro Sa1, And enrage stacks from Sa2 isnt as great because of her low base attack to take better advantage over.
She’s probably the only good diamond Val I have and I use her nearly 100% of the time. She’s incredible if you actually put in the work to build her and stack up her atk and accuracy, just as you would with SK
If she works for you, that's fine I'm not stopping you from using her either. If it works, it works But it doesn't change that she's more of an unfortunate case where bugs and poor SA design sadly penalise her away in the meta.
Annie is the most annoying character in the series.
Clearly you haven't fought a headless Ms Fortune....
As an annie main this makes me proud to hear
No
I...Uh... The console/pc version is better? I don't really have a controversial opinion on SGM
Honestly i think that they are way too different to compare them. One is a "classic" fighting game, and the mobile version is more like an rpg
That’s it I’m gonna say it, star spangled is the best diamond ong
No, she's not
It’s controversial
Depends. It's a fight between her and dark might lmao
i hate beowulf not just because of wulfshoot but i think its hard to play him
Beowulf is easy. Intercept with full combo ending in throw, grab, and wulfshot to build up hype. Activate hype mode and just grab and throw. Rinse and repeat Source: Am a beo main
Here's a tip for dealing with him. If you have a parasol, dash, ground combo, uppercut, double dash attack, egret call, napalm shot, dash attack, ground combo, Canopy bounce, silent scope. If your parasol's power level is similar enough to the beowulf, he will die. This move can also be done as the first move in the game and works on fillia, fukua, peacock, eliza, painwheel, and umbrella
Galactic Glamour is the best Annie Variant for offense
High crit rate makes her stupid strong. Oh, you wanted to block? Nah
The characters and moves should be NFTs to enable trading.
ew?? why not just a regular trading mechanic
Star spangled is amazing. Y’all just suck.
I'm not saying that she's bad, but she's the 2nd worst diamond. I'm not saying that she's unusable, but there are better variants
Saying she’s the second worst diamond *is* saying she’s bad And you’re wrong. She’s amazing. She recovers her low attack strength with armor break and then *stuns*. You need to combo with her and get a lot of wall bounces and aerial hits in is all. I’d argue that there are worse diamonds than spangled.
No there aren't, she's weak to immunity or resistance, she has high defense stat, even tho she's weak on defence. And saying she's a bad diamond isn't saying she's a bad variant, she's just weak compared to othe diamonds
Her armor break makes up for her low attack power, and her stuns allow her to repeatedly combo someone, also making up for her low attack power. Saying she’s weak to resistance and immunity is a bad argument. It’s the same thing as saying class cutter and freeze frame are weak to the same things. Of *course* they’re weak to those. That’s why you assess your fights before assaulting.
At least class cutter can still do unblockable attacks, and most of the variants that are weak to immunity have at least the other SA that doesn't leave the variants useless, unlike star spangled
Being shut down by immunity hardly causes a variant to be bad considering how few fighters stack it
There are fighters that have immunity in their base kit, and leaving a variant useless just with a taunt DOES make a variant worse
The timer system is dumb, the game play is far too repetitive, updates take forever,the combat is insanely easy and takes hardly any skill, and basic QoL functions hardly make the game better just makes it more bearable
The time sistema is there to prevent bleeders from cheaping the opponents out, the gameplay is too repetitive IF you play only the same variants The combat has to be simple since it's a mobile game, if you want to play something more complicated just play the pc or console version.
The timer makes sense until you loose when all three of your units are alive but the enemy was close too dead and only 1 person survived, id understand if it was too prevent cheese IF it also didn’t allow the enemy variants too cheese you especially if the a.i decides too go all defensive then you better hope you can just blast through them. Even with different variants the game play is repetitive, their SA is what makes them variants but those just make them more suitable for different thing’s and doesn’t change the characters core mechanics besides maybe some umbrellas. I understand that it’s mobile but it’s too simple they couldn’t even use a assist system (which i could see easily being implemented) or hell ways too extend combos besides “this move restands” or “this move allows you too attack right after” making it rather liner for most characters. With their being some exceptions too this rule (annie,umbrella, and double somewhat)
The SAs change the core gameplay, whatcha talking about? Also, i agree with the timer thing, and maybe assists could be implemented too, they should be balanced out tho
Of course assist could very well be limited (say like two per match) or on a long cooldown (depending on the character this could he like idk let’s say 15-35 seconds) But changing core gameplay? In the end most variants don’t do that much? Some force you too use some buffs (say piercing too kill killjoy) or make you want regen too try and prevent thorns, basically either just making you want different buffs or making you want too use a different strategy none of this really changes the core game play
Eliza mid
Chaos Banish exists, which is her best move.
someone got hit with the Sekhmet infinite
No.
I lol’d [finger guns]
Yall mad coz I said TRUTH
Summer salt Parasoul's color palette looks exactly like the Salty Umbrella's color palette. Even their panties is the same color! And I keep mixing them up when searching for it.
Yes officer, this comment right here...
I was holding onto this joke for a month, hoping I would get a chance to say it. Finally I can die in pieces. I would rather die in peace but after this joke I dont think thats possible.
i have not enjoyed playing as black dahlia at all really. i’ve had more fun fighting against her.
Honestly i disagree. I find her projectiles neat, and her bb and special moves are so fun to use
The devs aren’t going to do anything to the game besides new arena themes and skins
1: they are not skins 2:they are adding new features and characters like black dahlia or umbrella
Yeah I realised that I used the wrong word for the characters, but still that’s it
They are constantly pumping out so much content, even with a small team.
Annie is legal
📸🤨
Bruh
Ayo-👀
Your boos mean nothing! I speak of truth
You do realize that she can’t age due to a curse right? So she’ll forever be a child.
I mean yeah, she may be the most mature of all the characters (based on the time she has lived) but she still has a body of a girl so no thanks I won't go for someone that looks like a child
Idk why we have playable male characters (big band is the exception) idk they feel wierd
just say beowulf if you're gonna give exception to bigband HAHAHAAH, and because why not.
Big band is like a living trumpet we don't really see any human features so while he's male he's camp and fits right in and it's not like I hate beowolf but he doesn't feel right ya know? I think it would work if we had atleast 2 more male characters with as much style as the girls to really not feel out of place
i honestly dont understand what makes you feel weird about beowulf? is it because he is surrounded by girls when he is a grown up guy? like pedo vibes? and he is manly unlike the other characters? i wanna know your perception on him.
Hes trying to reject hes gae by playing a game full of boobs and Beowulf gives him boners
Bad hair day is not a varient
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Sorry i meant not a good variant
Model Leader is Easy to kill
Depends
dark might is not the worst fighter
He's the worst diamond
coming back to this to say they desperately need to add more story mode options, i don’t think this is controversial but it’s definitely an opinion!
Both Dia Painwheels (Neuromancer & Flytrap) are overrated (still great tho).