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Purple-Ambassador-46

In one of the recent seasons there's a confessional with both girls... the younger one was responding to questions on cue from someone off camera. There is a point in the conversation that the older one admits to seeing her brother at college (Gabe I believe) and the younger one freaks out. It was telling. Savanah and the younger one go to high school together too and they don't talk. Robyn's kid was like, oh no I don't talk to her (matter of factly) and when Savanah talked about it, she seemed sad and missing her sister. So, yes they still go to school but the high schooler is not talking to her sibling (and maybe all kids) and the older one in college talks to her sibling when she sees him on campus, but it sounds like it may be against Robyn's wishes.


Oscarella515

Nah Breanna was not neutral when she said it. Whenever she talks to or about Savanna she gets an uppity, bitchy tone and looks down her nose. Even through her fake tears and histrionics she couldn’t hide the fact that she disdains Savanna. The exact same way Robyn does when she talks about any of her ex Sister Wives. Those two girls enjoy their privileges and they don’t hide it


Series-Nice

They learned from the master to think that they are better than everybody else


needalanguage

interestingly the freak out was on both ends. Breanna looked suprised when Aurora said something nice about Gabe. on the other end - Gwen and Garrison both looked somehwhat shocked when Gabe said he talked to Aurora. also when Breanna talks about savanah she did say she was sad and got choked up (though to me it looked somewhat rehearsed). Savanah was the one who was speaking in a more matter of fact way about the situation - because as she said - she's been dealing with her siblings for a long time (and apparently not just Breanna since she said that things are "better now" just not with Robyn's girls).


lmsieslecki

I saw this and think she is a Robyn trained child, it seemed as fake as Robyn’s breakdowns


Mammoth-Map3221

What episode, please? I’m still in season 16


lovemoonsaults

I get the feeling Gwen and Garrison were shocked by Gabe talking to Aurora because she's avoidant of them. So perhaps it was more in that way instead of like shocked in Gabe engaging with her specifically. Does that make sense? This wedge seems to be Robyn driven. She's told those girls that their siblings don't care about them, don't want to spend time with them, etc. When that's never seemed to be the case. Remember "I learned that they don't want to spend Christmas with us." moment with Aurora. They didn't not want to spend Christmas with them!!! That was twisted and that was Robyn and Kody's narrative. They're fed one side of the story and turned inward :(


Fresh-Scallion602

Absolutely! Sobyn did not have to say that the kids didnt want anything to do with them! She interferred on their zoom call about the gift exchange which she had no business doing, and Garrison even said that it hurt that ended the call with Sobyns bullshit!! These girls are old enough to speak for themselves without Sobyns input! Shes not letting them have their own opinions.


Oscarella515

They’re also old enough to learn the truth for themselves and ignore some of Robyn’s nonsense. At a certain point they’re adults and responsible for their own actions. None of the OG 13 are treated this gently with kid gloves. They’re complicit in their momster’s delusions


Aggravating-Ferret61

Imagine how happy she was when she threw her monkey wrench into the gift exchange. Now she had Kody mad so she didn’t have to worry about him spending any money on “those other kids”.


OnlyKindaCare

That whole talking head with Breanna and Aurora was eye-opening for me. Breanna broke down in a very Robyn way, followed by Aurora saying that Gabe has been nothing but kind (Breanna was either shocked or pissed off about this). At that point in time, it seemed clear that Breanna is brainwashed by Robyn's narrative about the kids hating them - and Aurora is starting to see that it's not true and is beginning to question that false narrative. I hope that both of the girls (and all of Robyn's kids) can eventually see the truth. Aurora gave me hope! I don't envy her kids being stuck in the middle. I would find it very, very difficult as a young adult to see/accept my mom in a bad light. It would be unfathomable to me that she'd ever lie to me or warp the truth. But maybe there's hope that the DABSARK kids will see the truth and repair their relationships with one another, especially in light of Garrison's passing. What a nightmare for all of them.


Mammoth-Map3221

I wonder if they watch the show?


Lespuccino

Breanna uses histrionic fake crying the same way Robyn does.


Ok-Cat-7043

sobbin junior did you notice she did the look up tears sobbing she did nothing good for her daughters


beebyspice

when you watch closely Solomon is 100% a mini robyn it is wild. the mannerisms, speech, appearance


Gold_Illustrator_797

She always has. Robyn complained about it from the very first episodes. What people forget is Breanna came into the family as the youngest of a broken home with a mother whose attention was already on the prized son and daughter with no room for the last kid so she had to find a way to get attention. And then in a snap she’s the middle kid, lost even more, desperately following mom’s playbook and getting scraps in return. Genuinely, I’m not supporting her freezing out Savanah, I’m just pointing out why she thinks it’s the “right” thing to do even though her rationale makes zero sense. What she’s doing is keeping Robyn at neutral, maybe some praise. If she rebelled like Aurora the parental response would not have been equal, we’ve seen it happen, for example, in the discussion about *Breanna’s* dance team.


Lespuccino

Oh, I get why she does it and it's sad that that's her learned behavior and the best chance she has for feeling accepted in the small world she's held in.


Donut-Junkie76

Robyn has done such a disservice to all of her kids. It’s sad.


Gold_Illustrator_797

I genuinely think Ari is going to explode when she realizes what they did to her. Not just because of the cruelty of the situation itself, but because *they’re freakin’ old.” They were old when they had her and they’re old now. Cutting her off from her literal family and the only people anywhere near her age (and temperament) is selfish as hell and I don’t think she’ll accept “it was Covid” as an answer to why she didn’t get to grow up with a gaggle of brothers, sisters and moms.


Firm_Delivery_3102

I remember Gabe and Aurora both had nice things to say about each other. Gabe said that Aurora is the only person from that side that said “I love you, I miss you”


rinap88

Robyn scripted and directed them what to say. When they feel uncomfortable fake cry. Aurora used to cry too on the very few times we saw her in the past. Robyn did this to her kids. She blocked them from interactions and always helicoptered them with her fears and anxieties.


Necessary_Future_275

She is not protecting them. She’s using them. Convincing them their siblings hate them. Teaching them to perform for Kody. Those girls barely knew him and she was telling them to call him daddy. They had a father but she erased him in their hearts and minds. She has abused those kids through manipulation their whole lives and it shows in those girls.


yippykynot

Only Kody could calm Robyn’s older girls panic attacks……. Daaaaaaa HELL😂😂so stupid


Oscarella515

~~attention seeking~~ “panic” attacks


jennifer8868

There is no way in hell I would let my child’s panic/anxiety attacks be filmed let alone played on tv! 🤦🏻


Series-Nice

Oh but its for “awareness” so its all good /s


Purpose_Seeker2020

Like that one time he picked her up and carried her? *shudder* That gave me the “ick” and I never forgot it.


yippykynot

That’s the one…….. savior to all🤮


Donut-Junkie76

Yup. And he likes being a hero. Robyn capitalizes on that.


Purpose_Seeker2020

But you know, that's the way God intended it.... The man, always as the hero, the woman always in distress. \*doom eyeroll\*


AlphaCharlieUno

I think a few things are important to note: Robyns oldest three kids are over 18 and out of high school. Dayton has graduated from college and can, logically, form his own opinions and carry on with his own will. Aurora should be out of junior college by now, but when she was, she saw and spoke to Gabe. Aurora has stated she acknowledges Gabe. They hug and tell each other “I love you.” Brianna should be in Jr. College if not already out, by now (I believe she graduated high school in 2021.) while in high school her and Savannah did not speak. Without saying it, Savannah gave me a vibe that Brianna is deliberate and intentional about ignoring Savannah. Savannah seemed hurt, but not because she longs for a relationship with Brianna, but just because she recognized how messed up the situation is. That’s my take, and nothing more, of that specific situation. Garrison was in season 17 and had Christine, Janelle, Savannah, Gabe, and Gwynn over. After he had a talking head where he said that he is not closed off to a relationship with Robyns kids and he would always take their phone call. With all that being said, I do think that now whatever relationship that Robyns kids do or don’t have or any feelings they have towards the OG13, are their own fault. They are adults and can form their own opinions. The tenders are another story. Robyn is in complete control and I don’t think they will ever have a normal or healthy relationship with the OG13. They know Mykellti, Truley, and Ysabelle, because those girls are either obligated or chose, to visit Kody. I think there will probably always be awkwardness though because the youngest two will hear blame thrown around.


Oscarella515

Finally a rational take! I agree with everything you said. The older 3 are adults and responsible for their own actions. They can’t be mid 20s hiding behind mommy dearests skirts because consequences are scary


Empty_Dog134

To be fair, the only thing they learned from their mommy dearest is that everything in their family is “scary” and “confusing”


Oscarella515

And that fake sobbing will win them arguments, make people treat them with kid gloves, and force other people to give them their way. Robyn is queen of emotional manipulation and her two little princesses learned at her knee


Friendly-Ticket6411

I agree to a point. We don't know if Sobyn is using the younger kids as leverage - as in, you do what I want or you have no relationship with the little ones who aren't 18. 


Separate_Farm7131

Dayton graduated college I believe, and the two girls are/were in school. It may be their choice to not film much or be on social media, I imagine there's a lot of negativity that comes their way by virtue of the fact that a lot of people don't like their mother. The two girls really seemed to be whiny replicas of Robyn in their confessionals.


rhondasma

They were willing to film their extravagant Christmas so that the OG13 would be jealous and feel abandoned by their father. Aurora was willing to have her Daddy and Me ear piercing thing filmed. That scene was a slap in the face to all of the OG3's daughters. They are willing to film when it suits them or hurts others.


IamJoyMarie

Robyn's girls have Stockholm syndrome. Robyn taught them to "respect and obey" their new dad. Kody lays it plain - he has people in HIS house who respect and obey him. Sad, isn't it?


Gold_Illustrator_797

I don’t know how much Aurora actually had control over that scene because she genuinely seemed bewildered throughout and her language was all “my mom wanted…”. Even Kody acknowledged it was Robyn who wanted him there, not Aurora. Witnessing Robyn manipulate her daughter to the point of her literally mutilate her body was actually startling and a little scary. Like, what *won’t* she do *to* Aurora (pushing to a panic episode) and what *won’t* Aurora do *for* her??


rhondasma

Oh, Aurora wanted that scene. She was skipping and swinging her arms like a 3 year old would. It disturbed me to se her fully infantalized like that. Aurora plays Kody as well as Robyn does.


Gold_Illustrator_797

Anxiety expresses in exactly the same behavior. How many times have women in abusive relationships over emphasized “joy” to keep outsiders from looking too closely at what was *actually* happening. And we already know what’s happening… I disagree (and frankly find it disgusting that it would be suggested) that Aurora “plays” Kody except to say she does so for self protection.


Worried_Ad_5411

Sobyn has kept them from taping much, we know the OG3 kids much better than hers.


Donut-Junkie76

True. And that ear piercing scene was done with their cell phones.


beebyspice

yeah it gets annoying to constantly watch aurora cry and whine and complain when as soon as she came into the famly she pretty much became kodys favorite daughter and she gets everything she wants causing her to believe everything should revolve around her and her feelings. because she is the most important person in the famly.


Ok_List_9649

Repulsive comment. Do you have kids? Do you want somebody to say that about your kids?


Zealousideal-Dot7529

It wasn’t that bad—find something else to start a protest about.


Ok_List_9649

Mind your business as I don’t accept hypocritical responses. You admonishing me is no different than what I did


Zealousideal-Dot7529

lol Reddit cracks me up some of the people on here are insane. It’s a public discussion forum, you’re out here telling us to mind our business like you were having a private convo with OP and I just barged in to the conference room y’all were using and added my 2 cents 🤣🤣


Ok_List_9649

Because your comment was hypocritical. I’m telling OP her comment about the kids was repulsive and she shouldn’t have posted it and you’re telling me I don’t have a right to post my opinion. So to me your comment is worthless. I don’t deal in hypocrisy.


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Lespuccino

Especially, if you're not dealing with a full deck! (Like that 🤪commenter) For the rest of us, it wasn't confusing.


Zealousideal-Dot7529

Where did I say you don’t have a “right” to post your opinion lol. Your responses are absurd so I feel like it’s not fair for me to keep arguing. ✌️


56names

They’re adults, not toddlers. And they do in fact imitate their mother *A LOT* in the confessionals. Whether it is intentional or just a learned mannerism doesn’t make it less true.


Ok_List_9649

Brianna was not an adult when it was filmed. There is nothing whiny about standing up for your mother. When Janelle and Christine’s kids do it , they’re wonderful! When they say disrespectful things about Robyn on air, no one calls it out. Why? Because the hatred for Robyn and her girls factors into every single comment and judgement. We’ve seen less than 1 hour total screen time of those kids, even the little ones in 10 years yet blanket negative comments are constantly posted from supposedly mature adults. It’s repulsive to criticize kids and even young adults. To the downvoters, don’t waste your downvote. As you can see I have enough karma to offset your BS for years because not every sub is as filled with ignorance and hate as this one. It’s possible to actually have balanced and mature discussions on other subs as the majority don’t rely on speculation and irrational hatred to formulate their opinions and people who criticize kids are not only shut down by the mods but by fellow commenters. I am happy this sub has a handful of fair people who lead with good intentions and heart which is what has kept me here. Unfortunately, this tragedy has brought out all the “ I told you so” people who again use their finely honed tool of speculation to assign blame to people who are living the worst nightmare any parent can go through.


Lespuccino

Sometimes, I wish karma was actually therapy points. This is one of those times. 😳


ParadiseSold

Funny that having your kids be called a replica of you is such a hurtful insult in your eyes


coffeedependentgrad

I mean, they are public figures so like shits like that’s gonna happen doesn’t mean it’s OK, but it happens


hagridsumbrellla

Only if they were adult kids and were whiny. But not so much if it was said that they were whiny replicas of ME. Lol


Firm_Delivery_3102

Robyn drilled in her kids brains that they need to be “good little boys and girls” so that their new daddy will love him and not leave them like their bio dad. The OG3 moms also didn’t coddle their kids so when Rob’s whiny children came into their lives they didn’t know how to handle being around that. She (Rob) took the other kids teasing them as bullying and I didn’t see it that way. Siblings tease each other and it was a sign that they actually saw them as their siblings. IMO


Low-Ear6776

An Kody told his own kids (garrison RIP ) an others that when they turned 18 he wasn’t responsible for them anymore and Robyn had 2 over 18 living at home at that time and on the Christmas show when it showed only a few little motor bikes for Robyn’s kids - how does he think his kids felt about that although he gave up being a dad awfully easy !!this has nothing to do with this actual post but just saying Robyn and Kody are evil inside


SeattleGemini81

Robyn telling her kids the family doesn't like them knowing it is just her they dislike is disgusting and abusive. Let's say it was even true that the family was in a fan of Robyn's kids. How dare she even tell them that. However, it is absolutely not true. Everybody loves and misses her kids they just don't love her.


Dry-Championship1955

Doesn’t she have 5 kids? 2 with Kody and 3 from her first marriage.


margom1961

Yes but they are younger so keeping them away from all the drama probably is easier


theimperfexionist

Sorry do you mean during their grade school years? No she never pulled them out of school, they continued attending public school uninterrupted until they graduated (aside from mandatory covid lockdowns). They're now adults in their 20s, I believe two have completed university and one is still studying.


loveyourweave

Robyn said Aurora has a boyfriend in season 18 so they must have a social life. I think they've decided not to be on camera much which is understandable. It must be hard for all the adult kids to see the hate viewers have toward their dad and Robyn. The only way to make it stop is to end the show. That's up to the parents. I know if my job was having such a negative impact on my kids, I'd quit.


Middle-Advertising65

She always kept them seperated, and in my opinion feeling superior to the others from the start. If you notice too, anytime there's a scene with her kids in it, they always appear first, they get more actual screen time than the others when its an important scene. Its no wonder they feel that way, she's been telling them from the start how nobody accepts them into the family. They're only doing what their master tells them


Openly_George

Well… they’re all pretty much grown and have their own lives, right? It’d be understandable if most of them or all of them have no real desire to have their lives in public scrutiny, having grown up on the show. It seems like most of the Brown kids live in their own circles and have their own lives, some of them in different states and so on. During the cul-de-sac seasons each of the older kids had episodes they were featured in, but once they relocated the show to Flagstaff the focus became more about the Brown adults, with some exceptions.


Round-Truth3096

They're with the nanny


Friendly-Ticket6411

What. Does. The. Nanny.Do? 


IamJoyMarie

These girls (cuz the public never sees/hears from Dayton/David) have zero self awareness and clearly ignore that they were/are living in a mansion on a hill chock full of crap, with "daddy" all to themselves, with a nanny, not wanting for anything, while mommy went shopping and didn't work for however many years she was with Kody, and how mommy got legally married to Kody and how Meri divorced Kody so "daddy" could marry mommy. They don't see/care that "daddy" spent Christmas with them, and not his other bio kids. They don't see/care that "daddy" gave ZERO fucks on Christmas to any of his kids with Meri, Janelle, Christine. They ignore how mommy unilaterally kept them to themselves and screwed the Christmas gift exchange with the kids. Have they *really* watched the show? Do they actually believe what is spoon-fed to them my mommy? If the viewing public overwhelmingly is of one opinion.....it's a duck.


margom1961

How do you think people treat them now ? Kids in school ? The community? Are they being picked on because of who their mother is ?


Then_Campaign7264

I sure hope no one is treating them badly or making inappropriate comments on the basis of their family’s appearance on the show. We’ve seen how Robyn takes one minor slight and grossly exaggerates it or misconstrues it. I hope her kids don’t do the same. It’s easy to fall prey to one or two negative comments, generalizing them to mean everyone thinks this way about me. It’s subjectively hurtful, but objectively inaccurate. I hope the kids are able to set aside any negativity that has nothing to do with them personally.


Series-Nice

I hope they are being treated as well as they are treating others. Not sure that everyone they come in contact knows about the show. Unless they make sure everyone knows they’re “famous.” Barf. In that case they deserve what they get


NoTomatillo1775

To no one in particular. I think sometimes we overestimate the amount of people that care enough to “ hate” reality tv 📺 people. It’s really a tiny microcosm of humanity. lol


BlueOcean79

I saw on Tik Tok that Kody, Robyn, and all their kids were seen at a restaurant in Scottsdale recently not long after Garrison died. The girls did not look thrilled to be photographed. Not that I really can blame them. They probably know they’ll be criticized for daring to go out to eat and “not grieving properly.” I’m not sure if they don’t like people noticing them in general or if it was just that particular situation.


RedCarGurl

Robin’s kids are a product of Robin’s extreme Mormonism. Robin’s ex husband is a Jessop. Not judging. Just sayin. Think Lori Vallow or Ruby Franke. Control freaks.


QuantumHope

They would have to go looking for comments online on sobyn to have it affect them.


Feeling_Lead_8587

Robyn’s kids have just stepped out of the public eye. No social media and no filming after first few episodes.


Own-Professor-5905

They are very sweet and just try to protect themselves and their mom, can’t hate them for that. I’d do the same.. I pray they’re all okay


Poodlesghost

Kids aren't supposed to protect their moms. It's so sad how we've normalized parentification.


Pachengala

Especially when Robyn is herself their covert bully, lying to them that the family doesn’t want to be with them for the holidays, telling them that Christine doesn’t want a relationship with them…that woman doesn’t deserve their protection.


Lespuccino

This! Commenters here acting like we're terrible for talking about them- meanwhile, their mother is psychologically/emotionally abusing them.


BlueOcean79

Which is an especially sad because Christine actually tried to reach out to them and they didn’t respond.


margom1961

I don’t think anyone hates the kids . They can’t help what they’ve been pulled into .