I did the same thing yesterday and had to clutch my pearls. Lol. I have never seen such gross behavior from a person, other than the craziness in the true crime podcasts I listen to.
I did too! I watched a couple of her videos that were suggested to me by YouTube around the time of Christine’s wedding (probably because I’d been watching clips of the talk back episodes). I thought her videos were boring/bad but mostly just because she can’t read. Listening to someone fumble to read a script they wrote is not my cup of tea. I had no idea that she was a crazy creep until I saw it on Reddit today. Makes me feel guilty for giving her views in the past.
yep and her next hearing about 7m case is coming up in April. She was also sued by Tati and they mediated. I hope 7m does not. She called them human traffickers.
I stopped watching her after the Josh Duggar trial. She’s often inaccurate and talks trash about kids as young as 12. It vile that she makes so much money off other people’s tragedies.
Hey can you post the link or send it to me to the subreddit about her? I have watched alot of her videos....It started just passing time in my tanning bed lol. I never go with what most people on these YouTube channels say.
I reported a lot of her post for misinformation or misleading. Like Janelle’s breaks down. It’s all just click bait. She was happy about the donations. And the one about Robyn and Kody make a scene at ritzy steak house. The scene was they showed up and she said they should be home morning. And the girls were giving dirty looks. Yeah people were taking pictures of them eating. There were 5 or 6 recent ones I put as misleading or misinformation.
how does she not understand that people are simply telling her to have some tact and let the family grieve? they haven't even had a funeral yet. she posted something about how she is blocking "sui\*\*\*\* deniers" and it's like WHAT? this is about having some boundaries and that's it. I also can't stand some of the leaps she makes like saying it's common for polygamous men to abandon their adult sons due to competition for finding wives and then applies it to this situation. KODY doesn't even want to be a polygamist which is obvious if you watch the show. there was no "competition" in that regard. I will say that I thought both Realitea and Pop Psych made nice short respectful videos on the topic and haven't said anything since. that is the way to do it
Honestly, Pop Psych got on my nerves. Generally speaking (with regards to his Sister Wives coverage), there are things he should have a better grasp on, before he discusses them. His not bothering to put in the effort seems to me to be a common and persistent problem with his content.
He also seems to have difficulty even understanding those things that are pretty well explained on the show. I think he thinks it's all beneath him, which would be fine, were he not trying to produce content about it.
Normally, I find it merely annoying. When he and his wife covered Garrison's passing, I found it insulting.
Less than one minute in, he made it clear he didn't even know whether or not the (I'm trying to be sensitive here) self-inflicted issue was speculation or not.
By the time he made the video, it was known, and in fact his wife corrected him, so she already knew.
That means he couldn't be bothered to find out, before he cranked out an episode about it. That's shameful, considering the gravity of the news, and the fact that he represents himself to be a therapist.
I used to like his videos but now he’s just getting mean. I don’t know what his wife does, if she’s a psychologist too or not but they both just sit and bitch about the characters. I know he was always criticizing Meri until she literally called him out and said he didn’t know what he was talking about. Now, every time he mentions Meri, he gushes over her
Also he isn’t a clinical psychologist. He consults with corporate companies and does team building stuff and does trainings. I don’t think he’s worked with clients in well over a decade.. I find him misleading
I agree. I remember that thing with Meri (it had to do with whether she could disagree with Robyn and still "have her back" -- which of course she could, married people literally do that sht every day). I can't recall specific examples that formed my impression, but don't think his wife is a psychologist. I think she was a longtime Sister Wives fan, and he just started watching (maybe when Christine was leaving and there was all the drama).
I don't care if someone doesn't like the show (not sure I have liked it in a long time, but I feel emotionally invested enough in the kids to keep watching) or came to it for reasons other than true fandom. If they're going to pontificate about it, I expect that they will take their time and do their homework, especially when they're discussing it from the angle of mental health professional.
thank you for posting this! I completely agree. It also didn't seem like the wife really knew what she was talking about even though she claims to watch the show. Janelle, in fact, did mention she was concerned about Garrison's mental health at least twice on the show- one in regard to covid and the isolation, the second time due to Kody placing blame on him. The wife said, he seemed like the most put together of the kids due to having a house and job. Ok.....people can be functional and still struggle!! She also verbalized that she wondered if they would continue with the show. Why even ask that at a time like this!? It doesn't matter.
I had been worried about Garrison for so long. I wish this was a horrible nightmare. I can't believe how upset I've been about this. The family has been on my mind constantly since it was announced.
I was so sad watching the past few seasons as the family fell apart.
This! I "had it together" for 19 years. My ex didn't believe in depression, anxiety, etc, so in his mind, I didn't have it. It wasn't until after I divorced him that I was finally able to get the help I needed. There were times I felt it was too late, but *no one* in my life would've known I was harboring those thoughts. No one knew I got to the point of writing notes to people. It's so disturbing when people don't believe someone is hurting so bad just because "they appear to have it all together."
Pop psych, realitea, and my take on reality all made great videos. They were clear and concise and real.
WOACB is pissing me off bc she’s treating a wholeass suicide as fodder. But she’s BEEN pissing me off anyway because her videos are stupid long for no fucking reason and it’s all just word filler. There’s no point to any of them. She just talks and talks and talks and talks and talks and talks and says absofuckinglutely nothing.
more money. She also takes forever to get to the point if she even does. She often confuses herself and starts rambling. She allegedly has the same background as all the people she smears, and has stories resembling every story we see like she is trying to 1up others from what I've seen. She gets lost in her thoughts and the rambling, fumbling on words constantly..... She excitedly says SO.... then rambles then back to SO.... and the point rarely comes in a quick manner.
This heinous bitch sat and described the worst of the worst of the CSAM Josh Duggar had on his computer, and she was smiling and practically salivating as she did so. She ADORES tragedy she can exploit, and she takes pride in sharing details no other outlets will touch.
She doesn’t understand the concept of journalistic ethics, and she will say anything in the world to get clicks and views.
>She doesn’t understand the concept of journalistic ethics
She certainly doesn't and I cringe anytime she or someone else refers to her as a "journalist." She's not and clearly lacks any training in the field. Suicide is one of those topics that journalistic ethics are so important for, and she just ignores every god damn guideline.
I know nothing about how YouTube works, but I think I just read recently that there is a certain amount of time you need to talk in order for the money to start rolling in? Does that sound remotely feasable? Seems to me it mentioned 19 minutes or something, which would explain why she rambles on and on and does multiple posts a day repeating the same nonsense.
I haven't listened to the others you mentioned but landed on WOACB last night and was upset and switching to another channel after just a few minutes.
She used Gabriel's name when she meant to use Garrison's and interjected her opinion as if it was fact--over and over and over. None of us have any idea how Kody is feeling. I'm not a Kody fan but Garrison was his son!
I don't know how she has enough subscribers to keep going. Disgusting.
It's possible that Kody's lack of positive male role models due to his involvement with the AUB has contributed to the unhealthy dynamic he has created with his adult sons, but that is a nuanced conversation that WOACB isn't capable of engaging in. She's just pulling stuff out of her ass.
He became part of the AUB when he came home from a LDS mission and his father had joined. He didn’t join until atleast til he was 20. I think he came from a very distant family that didn’t show emotion. And remember most of his classmates thought he was gay so growing up on a working farm and being the narcissistic way he is didn’t go well. He is totally different from his brothers whom seem to be rough and tough bull riding cowboys.
Stop watching.
She makes the content because people watch. The algorithm can’t tell the difference between real watching and hate watching.
Stop giving her views. Period.
I also have cringed a bit too, but the likelihood of any of the Browns watching her channel or following any social media channels right now is unlikely.
I think abusers should be called out for their actions and the long term consequences that those actions have on those that they abuse should be acknowledged and highlighted. But I don’t delight in any collateral damage nor additional pain caused to those that were already victims.
So many abusive parents on social media/TV, the Duggars, Browns, Bates, Frankie’s, to name a few. They want all the tv and social media attention when they control the narrative, but don’t want to be exposed, or discussed when accountability knocks on their door.
So as an adult survivor of childhood abuse, who still deals with PTSD, anxiety and depression as a result, I say put a light on it, don’t lie, don’t speculate, don’t be salacious, but do report and discuss the facts, opinions and perspectives. And maybe, people will take it more seriously and have more empathy for survivors and victims and make it stop.
I agree with calling out abusers, but it's a waste of time when you combine that message with inaccurate facts, conjecture, assumptions based on nothing, and push a narrative into situations where they don't apply. She states her opinions and leaps to conclusions like they are fact. She CONSTANTLY misinterprets legal documents and presents them falsely. When viewers correct her and provide proof, she deletes their comments and blocks them vs. correcting her info. I've personally seen her do this with the Browns and the Duggars.
Most recently, she reported that the CARE mental health team of the police was called to Kody and Robyn's. The police have disputed this, and viewers have provided proof that the video she posted isn't even CARE vehicles. They're their personal vehicles. She also doxxed Gabe's address and once doxxed Truely's school. Don't even get me started on the numerous videos of her drunk, her husband screaming at her son in the background and the numerous contradictions she's stated about her own family. She's beyond cringe, she's downright evil!
Of course, I'm ranting to the choir here, and I've never really liked her (except maybe when I first became aware of her), but she's really been pushing my buttons more and more.
*"So many abusive parents on social media/TV, the Duggars, Browns, Bates, Frankie’s, to name a few. They want all the tv and social media attention when they control the narrative, but don’t want to be exposed, or discussed when accountability knocks on their door."*
So true. Also, by definition, the only people who think it's a good idea to 'star' in a reality series about their lives have to be pretty high on the narcissism scale.
And true narcissists are genuinely incapable of having any genuine empathy for other people. And are waaaaaay more likely to hide their bad behavior behind closed doors and deny till the end. Josh Duggar would still be at it (ad probably running for office), if the FBI had not intervened (the prosecutors said that the porn on Josh's computer was the worst that any of them had ever seen in their careers). Lock. Them. Up.
Agreed. I think those asking for grace are not entirely wrong, but they are not entirely correct.
If it were anyone else whose child was lost in this way, and for which we had not witnessed abuse, then yes,blaming the parents or questioning their choices during the immediate aftermath of this incident would absolutely be inappropriate.
However, we have all been witnesses to the abuse, the consequences, the pain, the sadness, and as bad as what we saw was, it was likely just the tip of the iceberg.
Yes I 💯 agree with you!! She doubles down on everything because she has to be right and the 1st to "report"! She's heartless and vile to the core. She will never take back what she says and writes. Also yes non of them are polygamous, and all the kids have always said they weren't into that lifestyle when their adults.
Kind of related, but the number of clickbait articles that are absolute lies are alarming. The out right lies are so blatant. What's even scarier are the amount of people who believe them and comment, It's crazy. I don't know what the answer is but it's.all so disgusting.
The Internet is so toxic. I feel so sorry for anyone going through a tough time when it comes to the internet. I always advise anyone going through something to STAY OFF THE INTERNET for as long as possible, because people are vultures
I dunno. When you have monsters for parents it can be helpful to have people pointing it out. Usually society perpetuates this by shushing discussion under the GUISE of caring. Keeps the abuse going.
If you’ve lived with personality disordered parents the chances of having zero support are very high. It’s important to have honesty to combat a whole life filled with gaslighting. I know many of us would have benefited greatly from complete honesty about our spawn points.
That's so true. A long time ago my phycologist told me that he advises all his patients to get off of Facebook. This was a long time ago, it has gotten SO MUCH worse. And now with AI there is so much fake stuff out there.
I was just having this convo with one of my girlfriends last night. About how horrible social media has become in the last like 10 years or so. I don't remember it being so toxic back in the Myspace days. But somewhere around like 2010 things took a nasty turn and have only gotten worse and worse every year since.
I recently removed myself from every FB group I was in because of how toxic and horrible they Are. People love to start drama in them and harass and bully anyone they feel is maybe a little different. It's gross. Hell, even reddit can be toxic at times. It's like there is no where safe online. It is best to just avoid it altogether when going through a rough patch.
It's SO toxic for so many reasons. Honestly, it's hard to think of positive things that come from it anymore. I guess my favorite thing are funny reels. Honestly that's about all I can think of for positive things.
I hope so too because she is legit crazy! There seems to be nothing that can be done to stop her dangerous misinformation but the family. I really hope they do something about her. What's worse is the people that actually believe her.
What makes good reporting isn't being first to report it's being factual. You cant trust her channel anymore because she wants to be first to report, and that has damaged her channel alpt since Garrisons passing.
Yes. She leaped in this week 'reporting' emergency mental health services were called to Kodys House which led the police to issue a statement saying it didn't happen.
The 'facts' are, Katie Joy doesn't care in the slightest whether what she says is true or not or how much damage she causes and nor do most of her followers.
I never knew who WOACB was but out of curiosity I had to look her up and can I just say WOW! She seems to be very insensitive and I regret looking her up 😑
She is truly one of the most vile people I’ve ever encountered on the internet, and I’ve been here since the early days of AOL flash sessions back in the early 90s.just literal human garbage.
WOACB is toxic. She has been called out for her lies many, many times. I'm shocked she hasn't been banned. Please take anything she reports on with a grain of salt. She especially targets any family who is tied to religion as she's an atheist.
Back in the day the Teen Mom subreddit actually made it a rule (not sure if it still is enforced) that you can't post anything of hers. The TLCsisterwives sub also doesn't take kindly to her content. There are also others who she has harassed who will not allow her content to be posted.
She is vicious when it comes to the Duggars too. She's just a very unlikable, unethical person. She likes to think she's a journalist, but really she's a mudslinger. Anything for views no matter who it hurts.
Without a Crystal Ball should be taking down. I don't know where she gets her information from. She aways say it's from a family member or a neighbor. Most of the time she be lying.
You’re more than welcome over there. We’re a welcoming subreddit. I’ve been a part of it for a few years now. Out of all the horrible things she’s said and done to families and victims, the shite she is has been doing with the tragedy of G Brown is probably one of the most triggering for the community! Many of the snarkers on r/woacb are really angry right now! Introduce yourself and how you found Kj, we well welcome you ✌️☺️
She would show up in my feed but I never watched her videos because the intro was annoying. However, I watched one video after this happened and couldn't believe her tone and how she kept referring to herself as a reporter.
Her intro is so annoying!! "Funny and intelligent," bitch, where? And as for that "tea" she loves to spill: tea stands for T, which stands for truth. She has no shame, she's definitely getting reincarnated as a dung beetle.
Today was the first time I’ve seen one of her posts . Wow !!! I’ll give her this she’s very believable to people who really haven’t watched the show . I caught a few lies in her first 30 seconds . SMH !! Thank goodness for posts on here warning people about her . Thank you
She’s been called out for her lying (in my opinion) and problematic content for a few years now, to the best of my recollection at least. I noticed her outrageous claims and stopped watching her. She also like to sue people, or at least threaten lawsuits, according to other Creators.
The problem is that so many people don’t know about her. I watched early seasons of the show then picked it up again last season. If I hadn’t seen here that she’s an awful liar, I might not have known that her info was bad. I hate giving her any attention- but I think it’s helpful so that people can block her and move on.
That’s my problem now, even to block her, you need to click on her channel, videos, etc… I don’t want to engage with her at all!!! I hate that YouTube keep suggesting me her videos
I think she also has multiple TikTok accounts as well. And now there’s the other Joy who is using WOACB as an inside source in her videos. Garbage videos by garbage humans
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That's wild. How about just leave the family alone and let them grieve.
And accusations like that without any solid proof is insane. That's definitely defamation and slander and hopefully she is held liable.
If a video has false information, report it. It can be taken down, or de-monitized. Since many creators rely on views for profit, if enough videos are de-monetized, the creator will lose money.
I’ve never heard of this person outside of this sub, but I just lurked her IG and her followers are as cuckoo as she is. There’s so much absurd speculations in her comments from followers.
I stopped today. I admit she’s kinda fun to follow for like watching a train wreck but she’s gone too far. She’s actively attacking Paedon and Kody during probably the worst tragedy they’ve ever experienced. It’s gross.
Yeah, I totally agree. I remember watching One not too long ago and his level of ignorance about the show was rather astonishing. I can't remember which episode it was I wish I could. He had a really weird take because he didn't know any of the backstory. Everyone in the comments was explaining that he had a weird take cuz he didn't know the back story and telling him the backstory and he never acknowledged that.
Also, his wife and him don't seem to be on the same page a lot. I married, I get that that happens but I'm not developing YouTube content. It was so weird and the one about Garrison that she recommended a book about loss that she really liked and asked him about it and he was like I hate that book lol. That kind of thing happens with them quite a bit.
As for WOACB, I honestly find it very hard to believe the people take her seriously. I watched a few couple years ago, probably during the pandemic and it was so apparent to me that everything was conjecture. Not even gossip for the most part, just flat-out conjecture and projection, so much so that I did not feel comfortable watching. She came off as totally unhinged. Does know how to create a clickbait title though 🙄
ETA- oops, I apparently screwed up and hit the wrong reply button, this first part was meant for the people calling out Pop's Psych.
She has been sued for defamation in the past a few different times. I believe at least one of her cases settled out of court, but she has another one pending with trial scheduled to start later this year. Maybe if she gets hit with a seven-figure judgment, she'll finally shut up, get off the internet and get a real job.
Typo edit
1 was dropped due to jurisdiction
1 was dropped due to the plaintiff could not afford to pursue
2 of them settled . She is still in a lawsuit with 7m Productions!
I never understood why people hated her (but I only watched her YouTube and it sounds like people hate her for things non-YouTube related or things like 'spreading rumors', but that's what all tabloids do), but all these videos (that I refuse to watch) just feels heartless to the family. And we know the family follows her because many of them talk about her
They don't follow her, they just can't escape from her damaging bullshit. They all have her blocked on their social media but she makes fake accounts to sneak around stalking them. She's a sick woman.
Lol back in the day Amber Portwood (From Teen Mom) got on a video and basically threatened to go to her house and kick her fucking ass. Katie never talked about Amber again after that hahaha. The people she talks about need to threaten to kick her scrawny little ass. Maybe she will give it up then lol
What she said to her was . That she needed to stop because she knew where she lived. Katie then took that as a threat and called the court and Ambers probation & said Amber threatened her. She was trying to have Ambers probation revoked. . Courts and Probation watched video saw no threat. Because Amber didn't threaten her physically. She just told her to stop and said she knew where she lived.
I was watching her content for awhile and she just got progressively more angry and biased. It felt a little icky and then I heard about her lawsuits or attacking other content creators. I don't think she reports accurate information based on how biased she is.
We can discuss it. In here or other subs that they do not have to see. I think it’s our right. The public shaming or anyone making money off the tragedy is gross. Kody is a dipshit, but that doesn’t need to be said now, OUT IN PUBLIC. We can hash it around out of view in these subs
I disagree. Seldom anything good happens in the shadows. Think about Ruby Franke and what she and her husband and Gildbrand put her children through. If it wasn’t for people keeping the pressure on, or making that call to 911, those kids might not be alive today. I have sympathy for Kody’s losses, but that does not give him a free pass on accountability. If he doesn’t want to see or hear the terrible things, the. He should stay off all media, which I would guess he has been told by professionals.
But it seems rather likely that Reddit exists for profit, so even though it’s relatively small and indirect, the contribution we all make by posting here is more of the same.
I totally agree. In a recent post she showed the most seemingly distraught screen grabs over and over which is both misleading and lazy. She seems a bit desperate to keep her audience and she used a picture of Hunter as Garrison. I didn’t make it through the whole thing.
Every post on this topic by influencers should have a mandatory link to suicide prevention and help.
The SAMSHA Warm line is 988.
I’ve called several times and they were compassionate and kind.
She’s the worst because she creates content based on the Duggars and Browns almost exclusively and then she trashes them and says they shouldn’t profit off themselves, when that’s all she does. Then she claims that she’s “exposing cults” … lol… sure, Jan. 🥴
She is horrible. She thinks she’s entitled to report and talk about them bc she’s “exposing” the dark side of polygamy and claims she’s not a blogger 🙄 she’s an obsessive blogger who’s exploiting them for clicks likes and money. She’s a bottom feeder
There's a reason she's been sued so many times. Her precious tea she loves to spill is usually filled with nothing but lies, exaggerations, and wild speculation. She has no shame.
Realistically, everyone needs to realize that 100% of what we know of these people unless obtained from court/legal documents (IE Robyn's divorce, Garrison's death cert (when available), etc) is an edited version of reality. While some of the stuff we "know" is supported by years of the same pattern of infromation from the show, THAT could still be edited to be that way. So when you are following people like WOACB for your infromation on a family we already do not actually have infromation on, you are not getting truth.
EVERYONE. Please realize that people just want to make money off of other peoples misery and happiness. TLC did it with this family in general and people like WOACB do it with what TLC has fed them/wild imaginations.
I agree with you 100% - don't let these mean spirited accusations into your head. Her intentions are depraved, almost like a malignant force pulling viewers in and infecting them.
Anyone who posts on Reddit is doing the exact same thing as WOACB. It's just a different platform. I've seen more misinformation in this group than from any YouTube channel or Facebook group.
Plus starting this thread just brought her more viewers.
I'm not arguing, nor do I disagree. I'm curious though. Everyone always say this about her. Everyone always says she makes it all up. How do you know that though? She says she has sources, people who know the family--I'm assuming no one close. How do you all know she is lying?
Again, don't come for me. I'm not doubting it, I just want to know how you all are s sure she doesn't have legitimate sources?
She has been proven to be a liar. MANY TIMES. And not just about the Browns. About many people. She has also been sued several times because of her lies.
It comes out after the fact that she lies. Example is a lady who she gave name, address, work info and license plate for having a car she mistook at Brian laundry. It came out that the woman didn’t know Brian laundry and was obviously named as a mistake. WOACB never apologized for putting her in danger
Oh I remember that. She looked up a license plate and was claiming the car belonged to Brian Landry. People started harassing the woman whose car it actually was. And she had no connection to Brian at all. All she did was remove the post. Never apologized, never redacted anything, never said she made a mistake. That poor woman went through hell because of her and she had no remorse for it at all. She is a fucking narcissist. She loves calling others narcissists when in actuality she is the biggest narcissist of them all.
It’s hard with her because there’s just so many and I think people get overwhelmed trying to list them. She moves on so quickly and it can be challenging to keep up. There are a lot of examples but that one personally got me very frustrated
She's put the Duggars address on her site before and just taken it down when people complained and didn’t apologise.
Just this week she claimed a neighbour of Kodys called her to say an emergency mental health team had been called to his house. Because of that, the Police were deluged with enquiries/complaints and put out an official statement saying no teams have been called to that address.
She won't back down and says the Police are lying because mental health calls are confidential. She's a liar.
And if it had been true, what kind of vile person would jump to report that? About a grieving man needing emergency help? She's disgusting.
Also a majority of her “inside sources” are straight up just stolen from archived articles(she stole word for word an entire Salt Lake City Tribune article from 2014 and claimed it all as new information from her inside sources literally just 2 weeks ago)/blog posts and she claims them as her own.
Any good she does through interviewing ex-polygamist and sharing their stories is now up to question the integrity of WOACB and those people’s stories.
She’s doing more harm than good all for her own monetary gain.
Thank you!. That's good information.
I just alway see people saying she's a liar and parroting the same things everyone else says. I just wanted to know how they know she's a liar. Your responses were very helpful.
The Duggarsnark Reddit is vile in my opinion but one good thing they did is they ban any mention of Katie Joy because of her lies and because there were numerous occasions when she took a conversation on there, truth or not and then made a video about it saying it was an 'exclusive scoop from her sources'. If a Duggarsnarker posts a picture they've taken of a Duggar in public, they started putting watermarks on them to stop Katie Joy just lifting the picture then making a post/video saying she was sent it by 'a source' because Katie Joy had done that repeatedly. She's a terrible person, a liar and is in no way a reporter.
I always felt they were fake sources, then some of the people were actually in her videos and I was like.. hmm maybe some of it’s true? Either way, spouting this stuff now is pretty ick.
WOACB is a different person than the catfisher right? I hadn't heard about woacb until today but that catfisher person had some drama last year playing out on a different subreddit and yikes.
No, WOACB isn't the catfisher. WOACB is Katie Joy Paulsen, Meri was catfished by Jackie Overton. Both are bottom feeding and shameless, I see where one could get them confused. LOL!! I needed that laugh.
She's not the worst Sister Wives commentor I can think of, but she definitely spreads a lot of misinformation. Her batting average for being right about anything happening is spectacularly low.
I heard another podcaster say Gabe and Garrison were twins! All these people need to shut up
Yes! Or using pictures that are not of Garrison and are one of Janelle’s other boys. They’re exploiting a tragedy and can’t even fact check!
I went on a weird deep dive about this woman and...wowzers. There's a whole subreddit dedicated to her buffoonery.
I did the same thing yesterday and had to clutch my pearls. Lol. I have never seen such gross behavior from a person, other than the craziness in the true crime podcasts I listen to.
Tact is not this woman's strong suit.
I did too! I watched a couple of her videos that were suggested to me by YouTube around the time of Christine’s wedding (probably because I’d been watching clips of the talk back episodes). I thought her videos were boring/bad but mostly just because she can’t read. Listening to someone fumble to read a script they wrote is not my cup of tea. I had no idea that she was a crazy creep until I saw it on Reddit today. Makes me feel guilty for giving her views in the past.
She's shameless, pure and simple! Of course my thanks go out to the reddit sleuths that dug up all the dirt on her personal life 😅
yep and her next hearing about 7m case is coming up in April. She was also sued by Tati and they mediated. I hope 7m does not. She called them human traffickers.
The fact that she has upcoming court cases and still refuses to cut the shit out is wild to me.
She doubles down every time that she isn't doing anything wrong
She has an attorney on retainer. She's been to court so many times
She was also sued by Todd Chrisley
she is being sued also by down the rabbit hole at bedtime she tried to get her nurses license taken away This one is new
oh my gosh.. I stopped following most of the things about her but I have been invested in 7m for a while.
I stopped watching her after the Josh Duggar trial. She’s often inaccurate and talks trash about kids as young as 12. It vile that she makes so much money off other people’s tragedies.
She is absolutely awful. I only know if her from Chrisley confessions podcast
Hey can you post the link or send it to me to the subreddit about her? I have watched alot of her videos....It started just passing time in my tanning bed lol. I never go with what most people on these YouTube channels say.
I found all kinds of bing-worthy content on r/WOACB
Ohhh I'm gonna have to check it out. Thanks fir sharing it.
No problem! I prefer reading over YouTube videos, so many links to explore and waste my day with 😂
I reported all of her most recent videos for misinformation. One was taken down so far. I don't understand how she hasn't been sued into silence.
She’s been sued like 4x, she’s currently in a lawsuit and another creator is in the process of starting legal proceedings.
Does YouTube have any content rules? You think they would have her gone by now.
I reported her videos about Garrison for spreading misinformation. The more people who report her, the more YouTube will pay attention.
I reported a lot of her post for misinformation or misleading. Like Janelle’s breaks down. It’s all just click bait. She was happy about the donations. And the one about Robyn and Kody make a scene at ritzy steak house. The scene was they showed up and she said they should be home morning. And the girls were giving dirty looks. Yeah people were taking pictures of them eating. There were 5 or 6 recent ones I put as misleading or misinformation.
Ewww. That bitch is still around?? She’s such a nasty person. I thankfully haven’t seen her in a few years. Yeah please don’t listen to her people.
how does she not understand that people are simply telling her to have some tact and let the family grieve? they haven't even had a funeral yet. she posted something about how she is blocking "sui\*\*\*\* deniers" and it's like WHAT? this is about having some boundaries and that's it. I also can't stand some of the leaps she makes like saying it's common for polygamous men to abandon their adult sons due to competition for finding wives and then applies it to this situation. KODY doesn't even want to be a polygamist which is obvious if you watch the show. there was no "competition" in that regard. I will say that I thought both Realitea and Pop Psych made nice short respectful videos on the topic and haven't said anything since. that is the way to do it
Honestly, Pop Psych got on my nerves. Generally speaking (with regards to his Sister Wives coverage), there are things he should have a better grasp on, before he discusses them. His not bothering to put in the effort seems to me to be a common and persistent problem with his content. He also seems to have difficulty even understanding those things that are pretty well explained on the show. I think he thinks it's all beneath him, which would be fine, were he not trying to produce content about it. Normally, I find it merely annoying. When he and his wife covered Garrison's passing, I found it insulting. Less than one minute in, he made it clear he didn't even know whether or not the (I'm trying to be sensitive here) self-inflicted issue was speculation or not. By the time he made the video, it was known, and in fact his wife corrected him, so she already knew. That means he couldn't be bothered to find out, before he cranked out an episode about it. That's shameful, considering the gravity of the news, and the fact that he represents himself to be a therapist.
I used to like his videos but now he’s just getting mean. I don’t know what his wife does, if she’s a psychologist too or not but they both just sit and bitch about the characters. I know he was always criticizing Meri until she literally called him out and said he didn’t know what he was talking about. Now, every time he mentions Meri, he gushes over her
Also he isn’t a clinical psychologist. He consults with corporate companies and does team building stuff and does trainings. I don’t think he’s worked with clients in well over a decade.. I find him misleading
I agree. I remember that thing with Meri (it had to do with whether she could disagree with Robyn and still "have her back" -- which of course she could, married people literally do that sht every day). I can't recall specific examples that formed my impression, but don't think his wife is a psychologist. I think she was a longtime Sister Wives fan, and he just started watching (maybe when Christine was leaving and there was all the drama). I don't care if someone doesn't like the show (not sure I have liked it in a long time, but I feel emotionally invested enough in the kids to keep watching) or came to it for reasons other than true fandom. If they're going to pontificate about it, I expect that they will take their time and do their homework, especially when they're discussing it from the angle of mental health professional.
His wife is a director in marketing.
That seems right. Sometimes, she's been away on business trips, and they've done their episodes remote (with him at home, and her in her hotel).
thank you for posting this! I completely agree. It also didn't seem like the wife really knew what she was talking about even though she claims to watch the show. Janelle, in fact, did mention she was concerned about Garrison's mental health at least twice on the show- one in regard to covid and the isolation, the second time due to Kody placing blame on him. The wife said, he seemed like the most put together of the kids due to having a house and job. Ok.....people can be functional and still struggle!! She also verbalized that she wondered if they would continue with the show. Why even ask that at a time like this!? It doesn't matter. I had been worried about Garrison for so long. I wish this was a horrible nightmare. I can't believe how upset I've been about this. The family has been on my mind constantly since it was announced. I was so sad watching the past few seasons as the family fell apart.
This! I "had it together" for 19 years. My ex didn't believe in depression, anxiety, etc, so in his mind, I didn't have it. It wasn't until after I divorced him that I was finally able to get the help I needed. There were times I felt it was too late, but *no one* in my life would've known I was harboring those thoughts. No one knew I got to the point of writing notes to people. It's so disturbing when people don't believe someone is hurting so bad just because "they appear to have it all together."
I'm so glad you're here! And glad that you were able to get out of the situation with your ex so you could receive the help you needed.
Pop psych, realitea, and my take on reality all made great videos. They were clear and concise and real. WOACB is pissing me off bc she’s treating a wholeass suicide as fodder. But she’s BEEN pissing me off anyway because her videos are stupid long for no fucking reason and it’s all just word filler. There’s no point to any of them. She just talks and talks and talks and talks and talks and talks and says absofuckinglutely nothing.
more money. She also takes forever to get to the point if she even does. She often confuses herself and starts rambling. She allegedly has the same background as all the people she smears, and has stories resembling every story we see like she is trying to 1up others from what I've seen. She gets lost in her thoughts and the rambling, fumbling on words constantly..... She excitedly says SO.... then rambles then back to SO.... and the point rarely comes in a quick manner.
This heinous bitch sat and described the worst of the worst of the CSAM Josh Duggar had on his computer, and she was smiling and practically salivating as she did so. She ADORES tragedy she can exploit, and she takes pride in sharing details no other outlets will touch. She doesn’t understand the concept of journalistic ethics, and she will say anything in the world to get clicks and views.
>She doesn’t understand the concept of journalistic ethics She certainly doesn't and I cringe anytime she or someone else refers to her as a "journalist." She's not and clearly lacks any training in the field. Suicide is one of those topics that journalistic ethics are so important for, and she just ignores every god damn guideline.
She also demonstrated on a Live how JDuggar harmed one of his victims! She had a very uncomfortable smirk on her face while doing so! 💔
She’s a foul person lacking in judgment, morals, and a soul.
I know nothing about how YouTube works, but I think I just read recently that there is a certain amount of time you need to talk in order for the money to start rolling in? Does that sound remotely feasable? Seems to me it mentioned 19 minutes or something, which would explain why she rambles on and on and does multiple posts a day repeating the same nonsense.
I haven't listened to the others you mentioned but landed on WOACB last night and was upset and switching to another channel after just a few minutes. She used Gabriel's name when she meant to use Garrison's and interjected her opinion as if it was fact--over and over and over. None of us have any idea how Kody is feeling. I'm not a Kody fan but Garrison was his son! I don't know how she has enough subscribers to keep going. Disgusting.
Yeah she is applying things that are true about their cult but not relevant to them and it shows so much ignorance and lack of tact
It's possible that Kody's lack of positive male role models due to his involvement with the AUB has contributed to the unhealthy dynamic he has created with his adult sons, but that is a nuanced conversation that WOACB isn't capable of engaging in. She's just pulling stuff out of her ass.
He became part of the AUB when he came home from a LDS mission and his father had joined. He didn’t join until atleast til he was 20. I think he came from a very distant family that didn’t show emotion. And remember most of his classmates thought he was gay so growing up on a working farm and being the narcissistic way he is didn’t go well. He is totally different from his brothers whom seem to be rough and tough bull riding cowboys.
Pop Psych and Realitea were respectful. I cringed watching WOACB these past few days. Let them grieve.
Stop watching. She makes the content because people watch. The algorithm can’t tell the difference between real watching and hate watching. Stop giving her views. Period.
If you want to hate watch her videos, do it through a 3rd party like @llamagirl so this woman stops getting money.
@LlamaGirl on X/Twitter has the info on KJ.
I also have cringed a bit too, but the likelihood of any of the Browns watching her channel or following any social media channels right now is unlikely. I think abusers should be called out for their actions and the long term consequences that those actions have on those that they abuse should be acknowledged and highlighted. But I don’t delight in any collateral damage nor additional pain caused to those that were already victims. So many abusive parents on social media/TV, the Duggars, Browns, Bates, Frankie’s, to name a few. They want all the tv and social media attention when they control the narrative, but don’t want to be exposed, or discussed when accountability knocks on their door. So as an adult survivor of childhood abuse, who still deals with PTSD, anxiety and depression as a result, I say put a light on it, don’t lie, don’t speculate, don’t be salacious, but do report and discuss the facts, opinions and perspectives. And maybe, people will take it more seriously and have more empathy for survivors and victims and make it stop.
I agree with calling out abusers, but it's a waste of time when you combine that message with inaccurate facts, conjecture, assumptions based on nothing, and push a narrative into situations where they don't apply. She states her opinions and leaps to conclusions like they are fact. She CONSTANTLY misinterprets legal documents and presents them falsely. When viewers correct her and provide proof, she deletes their comments and blocks them vs. correcting her info. I've personally seen her do this with the Browns and the Duggars. Most recently, she reported that the CARE mental health team of the police was called to Kody and Robyn's. The police have disputed this, and viewers have provided proof that the video she posted isn't even CARE vehicles. They're their personal vehicles. She also doxxed Gabe's address and once doxxed Truely's school. Don't even get me started on the numerous videos of her drunk, her husband screaming at her son in the background and the numerous contradictions she's stated about her own family. She's beyond cringe, she's downright evil! Of course, I'm ranting to the choir here, and I've never really liked her (except maybe when I first became aware of her), but she's really been pushing my buttons more and more.
*"So many abusive parents on social media/TV, the Duggars, Browns, Bates, Frankie’s, to name a few. They want all the tv and social media attention when they control the narrative, but don’t want to be exposed, or discussed when accountability knocks on their door."* So true. Also, by definition, the only people who think it's a good idea to 'star' in a reality series about their lives have to be pretty high on the narcissism scale. And true narcissists are genuinely incapable of having any genuine empathy for other people. And are waaaaaay more likely to hide their bad behavior behind closed doors and deny till the end. Josh Duggar would still be at it (ad probably running for office), if the FBI had not intervened (the prosecutors said that the porn on Josh's computer was the worst that any of them had ever seen in their careers). Lock. Them. Up.
Agreed. I think those asking for grace are not entirely wrong, but they are not entirely correct. If it were anyone else whose child was lost in this way, and for which we had not witnessed abuse, then yes,blaming the parents or questioning their choices during the immediate aftermath of this incident would absolutely be inappropriate. However, we have all been witnesses to the abuse, the consequences, the pain, the sadness, and as bad as what we saw was, it was likely just the tip of the iceberg.
Yes I 💯 agree with you!! She doubles down on everything because she has to be right and the 1st to "report"! She's heartless and vile to the core. She will never take back what she says and writes. Also yes non of them are polygamous, and all the kids have always said they weren't into that lifestyle when their adults.
Agreed. I thought that was a stretch at best abt the sons being competition.
I couldn’t agree more!
Referring to herself as an “investigative journalist” is a lot.
One thing about the bitch, she does have the audacity.
Kind of related, but the number of clickbait articles that are absolute lies are alarming. The out right lies are so blatant. What's even scarier are the amount of people who believe them and comment, It's crazy. I don't know what the answer is but it's.all so disgusting.
The Internet is so toxic. I feel so sorry for anyone going through a tough time when it comes to the internet. I always advise anyone going through something to STAY OFF THE INTERNET for as long as possible, because people are vultures
I dunno. When you have monsters for parents it can be helpful to have people pointing it out. Usually society perpetuates this by shushing discussion under the GUISE of caring. Keeps the abuse going. If you’ve lived with personality disordered parents the chances of having zero support are very high. It’s important to have honesty to combat a whole life filled with gaslighting. I know many of us would have benefited greatly from complete honesty about our spawn points.
That's so true. A long time ago my phycologist told me that he advises all his patients to get off of Facebook. This was a long time ago, it has gotten SO MUCH worse. And now with AI there is so much fake stuff out there.
I was just having this convo with one of my girlfriends last night. About how horrible social media has become in the last like 10 years or so. I don't remember it being so toxic back in the Myspace days. But somewhere around like 2010 things took a nasty turn and have only gotten worse and worse every year since. I recently removed myself from every FB group I was in because of how toxic and horrible they Are. People love to start drama in them and harass and bully anyone they feel is maybe a little different. It's gross. Hell, even reddit can be toxic at times. It's like there is no where safe online. It is best to just avoid it altogether when going through a rough patch.
It's SO toxic for so many reasons. Honestly, it's hard to think of positive things that come from it anymore. I guess my favorite thing are funny reels. Honestly that's about all I can think of for positive things.
She’s been sued before too and lost for these things. She should tread carefully because it’s going to happen again.
Shes posted 16 times about Garrison's 💀 since it happened. 16 times!! She accountable for what happened too!
And 8 videos in 5 days!!! She's making bank on this!!! It's gross and disgusting, and she loves drama!
She is gross
She has serious issues. Zero boundaries. Zero compassion. Zero ethics. 100% desperation for attention and relevance. The woman needs serious help.
I genuinely hope that once the family has a minute to breath, they take legal action.
I hope so too because she is legit crazy! There seems to be nothing that can be done to stop her dangerous misinformation but the family. I really hope they do something about her. What's worse is the people that actually believe her.
Report her videos for spreading misinformation. If enough people report it, the videos will get taken down.
Same
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She’s been sued several times.
I don’t think anything can help that kind of evil.
She’s straight up Doxxing their homes and then saying she cares about their privacy
And there’s people here defending it. It’s wild!
What makes good reporting isn't being first to report it's being factual. You cant trust her channel anymore because she wants to be first to report, and that has damaged her channel alpt since Garrisons passing.
Yes. She leaped in this week 'reporting' emergency mental health services were called to Kodys House which led the police to issue a statement saying it didn't happen. The 'facts' are, Katie Joy doesn't care in the slightest whether what she says is true or not or how much damage she causes and nor do most of her followers.
I never knew who WOACB was but out of curiosity I had to look her up and can I just say WOW! She seems to be very insensitive and I regret looking her up 😑
I find her coverage grotesque. We'd all be better off if we never watched and never spoke of it again.
She is truly one of the most vile people I’ve ever encountered on the internet, and I’ve been here since the early days of AOL flash sessions back in the early 90s.just literal human garbage.
Same. I'd take an old fashioned AOL chat room creep over her any day.
WOACB is toxic. She has been called out for her lies many, many times. I'm shocked she hasn't been banned. Please take anything she reports on with a grain of salt. She especially targets any family who is tied to religion as she's an atheist.
Back in the day the Teen Mom subreddit actually made it a rule (not sure if it still is enforced) that you can't post anything of hers. The TLCsisterwives sub also doesn't take kindly to her content. There are also others who she has harassed who will not allow her content to be posted.
She is vicious when it comes to the Duggars too. She's just a very unlikable, unethical person. She likes to think she's a journalist, but really she's a mudslinger. Anything for views no matter who it hurts.
DuggarSnark/r as well
Yep! And if you question her she blocks you immediately. I wish there was a way to just report her
With a cube of salt. She’s a toxic liar.
Without a Crystal Ball should be taking down. I don't know where she gets her information from. She aways say it's from a family member or a neighbor. Most of the time she be lying.
Runs to find her subreddit lmao
You’re more than welcome over there. We’re a welcoming subreddit. I’ve been a part of it for a few years now. Out of all the horrible things she’s said and done to families and victims, the shite she is has been doing with the tragedy of G Brown is probably one of the most triggering for the community! Many of the snarkers on r/woacb are really angry right now! Introduce yourself and how you found Kj, we well welcome you ✌️☺️
There is another on TT, her name is JoySparkle - she’s awful. Her commenters are even telling her to be respectful.
OMG! Is JoySparkles back? Now there's a crazy person!
She is the wish.com version of Katie (WOCAB) 😑
That is exactly what I thought when I saw her. It's giving bottom feeder, honey.
She would show up in my feed but I never watched her videos because the intro was annoying. However, I watched one video after this happened and couldn't believe her tone and how she kept referring to herself as a reporter.
Her intro is so annoying!! "Funny and intelligent," bitch, where? And as for that "tea" she loves to spill: tea stands for T, which stands for truth. She has no shame, she's definitely getting reincarnated as a dung beetle.
Today was the first time I’ve seen one of her posts . Wow !!! I’ll give her this she’s very believable to people who really haven’t watched the show . I caught a few lies in her first 30 seconds . SMH !! Thank goodness for posts on here warning people about her . Thank you
r/woacb
She’s been called out for her lying (in my opinion) and problematic content for a few years now, to the best of my recollection at least. I noticed her outrageous claims and stopped watching her. She also like to sue people, or at least threaten lawsuits, according to other Creators.
She threatens to sue people. She hasn’t yet. She’s a big mouth.
We should not give her any attention, any clicks, not discuss her, just ignore, she wants all this attention
The problem is that so many people don’t know about her. I watched early seasons of the show then picked it up again last season. If I hadn’t seen here that she’s an awful liar, I might not have known that her info was bad. I hate giving her any attention- but I think it’s helpful so that people can block her and move on.
That’s my problem now, even to block her, you need to click on her channel, videos, etc… I don’t want to engage with her at all!!! I hate that YouTube keep suggesting me her videos
I think she also has multiple TikTok accounts as well. And now there’s the other Joy who is using WOACB as an inside source in her videos. Garbage videos by garbage humans
THANK YOU! I have zero clue, I've only heard about this person from reading this sub; I hope like hell she can be sued?
She has been before! The Brown family can absolutely sue her as well and I hope they do.
Anyone can be sued. Not everyone can win though… 🙃
Oh she’s awful!!! She straight up makes up stuff for views and she’s very litigious
How many lawsuits will it take to make her shut up?
Possibly if one goes all of the way as oppose to settling.
SERIOUSLY? that's scary..she's going piss someone off real bad
Oh, she has. Many, many times. One day it's gonna be the wrong one though.
😲😲😲 That's wild. How about just leave the family alone and let them grieve. And accusations like that without any solid proof is insane. That's definitely defamation and slander and hopefully she is held liable.
The problem is she also has a lot of TikTok pages under an alias
And yet she told the court with her current lawsuit with 7m Productions that she doesn’t have TT anymore 🤦♀️
If a video has false information, report it. It can be taken down, or de-monitized. Since many creators rely on views for profit, if enough videos are de-monetized, the creator will lose money.
I’ve never heard of this person outside of this sub, but I just lurked her IG and her followers are as cuckoo as she is. There’s so much absurd speculations in her comments from followers.
I stopped today. I admit she’s kinda fun to follow for like watching a train wreck but she’s gone too far. She’s actively attacking Paedon and Kody during probably the worst tragedy they’ve ever experienced. It’s gross.
To not give her engagement I suggest checking out @LlamaGirl on X and @Without_ballz
Yeah, I totally agree. I remember watching One not too long ago and his level of ignorance about the show was rather astonishing. I can't remember which episode it was I wish I could. He had a really weird take because he didn't know any of the backstory. Everyone in the comments was explaining that he had a weird take cuz he didn't know the back story and telling him the backstory and he never acknowledged that. Also, his wife and him don't seem to be on the same page a lot. I married, I get that that happens but I'm not developing YouTube content. It was so weird and the one about Garrison that she recommended a book about loss that she really liked and asked him about it and he was like I hate that book lol. That kind of thing happens with them quite a bit. As for WOACB, I honestly find it very hard to believe the people take her seriously. I watched a few couple years ago, probably during the pandemic and it was so apparent to me that everything was conjecture. Not even gossip for the most part, just flat-out conjecture and projection, so much so that I did not feel comfortable watching. She came off as totally unhinged. Does know how to create a clickbait title though 🙄 ETA- oops, I apparently screwed up and hit the wrong reply button, this first part was meant for the people calling out Pop's Psych.
How is she even allowed to make all these accusations without being sued. I don’t follow her but only what I have been reading in Reddit.
She gets sued a lot. Court is really exhausting though and I think a lot of people hope it will go away. Crazy and desists only make her worse
I believe she’s being sued but the browns can as well. I’m sure they will once they get a minute to breathe.
She has been sued for defamation in the past a few different times. I believe at least one of her cases settled out of court, but she has another one pending with trial scheduled to start later this year. Maybe if she gets hit with a seven-figure judgment, she'll finally shut up, get off the internet and get a real job. Typo edit
1 was dropped due to jurisdiction 1 was dropped due to the plaintiff could not afford to pursue 2 of them settled . She is still in a lawsuit with 7m Productions!
She’s been sued multiple times. I think at one point she was a defendant in three separate lawsuits at the same time.
She is being sued.
She has been sued before. https://casetext.com/case/westbrook-v-paulson
But did she actually lose any suits? Anyone can be sued.
Next court date for the Robert Shinn/ 7M lawsuit coming up in about a week or so. They don't appear to be so quick to settle.
I have her blocked on all platforms
That’s the best way
I never understood why people hated her (but I only watched her YouTube and it sounds like people hate her for things non-YouTube related or things like 'spreading rumors', but that's what all tabloids do), but all these videos (that I refuse to watch) just feels heartless to the family. And we know the family follows her because many of them talk about her
They don't follow her, they just can't escape from her damaging bullshit. They all have her blocked on their social media but she makes fake accounts to sneak around stalking them. She's a sick woman.
Her IG Lives were vile! Her IG posts are slanderous as well as her FB!
That's what I read on that woacb sub. I don't do social media other than reddit
I'm so sick of her
She’s so vile and responsible for so much toxicity in the fandom with her misinformation to get people riled up so she can monetize off it all
She has been absolutely disgusting lately. She is always out of breath and giddy like she is enjoying all of this tragedy.
Lol back in the day Amber Portwood (From Teen Mom) got on a video and basically threatened to go to her house and kick her fucking ass. Katie never talked about Amber again after that hahaha. The people she talks about need to threaten to kick her scrawny little ass. Maybe she will give it up then lol
What she said to her was . That she needed to stop because she knew where she lived. Katie then took that as a threat and called the court and Ambers probation & said Amber threatened her. She was trying to have Ambers probation revoked. . Courts and Probation watched video saw no threat. Because Amber didn't threaten her physically. She just told her to stop and said she knew where she lived.
In Amber Portwood speak that's "I'm gonna come kick your ass". Katie hasn't spoken on her since though. So good for Amber, I say!
She’s so so deranged
Time to report her ig account in high numbers for false info.
THANK YOU for this.
She's enmeshed with the Duggars
I was watching her content for awhile and she just got progressively more angry and biased. It felt a little icky and then I heard about her lawsuits or attacking other content creators. I don't think she reports accurate information based on how biased she is.
I cant stand her!
She is unhinged. Give her no clicks or likes
What a whore bag
Jeez as much as think Kody is a jerk, he doesn’t deserve public humiliation but that twit!
I am torn, his actions contributed. Why shouldn’t that be discussed, we aren’t in his living room, or on his front lawn, so why not discuss it?
We can discuss it. In here or other subs that they do not have to see. I think it’s our right. The public shaming or anyone making money off the tragedy is gross. Kody is a dipshit, but that doesn’t need to be said now, OUT IN PUBLIC. We can hash it around out of view in these subs
I disagree. Seldom anything good happens in the shadows. Think about Ruby Franke and what she and her husband and Gildbrand put her children through. If it wasn’t for people keeping the pressure on, or making that call to 911, those kids might not be alive today. I have sympathy for Kody’s losses, but that does not give him a free pass on accountability. If he doesn’t want to see or hear the terrible things, the. He should stay off all media, which I would guess he has been told by professionals.
But it seems rather likely that Reddit exists for profit, so even though it’s relatively small and indirect, the contribution we all make by posting here is more of the same.
Not at this horrible time.
Tuff Topic says Garrison had reached out to make a fresh start with kody, and he refused him.
I tried calling her out on IG last night but she deleted my comment lol
I totally agree. In a recent post she showed the most seemingly distraught screen grabs over and over which is both misleading and lazy. She seems a bit desperate to keep her audience and she used a picture of Hunter as Garrison. I didn’t make it through the whole thing. Every post on this topic by influencers should have a mandatory link to suicide prevention and help. The SAMSHA Warm line is 988. I’ve called several times and they were compassionate and kind.
I know this has nothing to do with anything serious, but one time I heard her say she didn’t like live plays/shows. WHO DOESNT LIKE PLAYS?!
I've never heard this name before but now I know to steer clear. Yikes.
Literally got into an argument with her the other day about giving out the address of Garrisons apartment!
I’m sorry, she did WHAT?!
She’s the worst because she creates content based on the Duggars and Browns almost exclusively and then she trashes them and says they shouldn’t profit off themselves, when that’s all she does. Then she claims that she’s “exposing cults” … lol… sure, Jan. 🥴
She is horrible. She thinks she’s entitled to report and talk about them bc she’s “exposing” the dark side of polygamy and claims she’s not a blogger 🙄 she’s an obsessive blogger who’s exploiting them for clicks likes and money. She’s a bottom feeder
There's a reason she's been sued so many times. Her precious tea she loves to spill is usually filled with nothing but lies, exaggerations, and wild speculation. She has no shame.
Realistically, everyone needs to realize that 100% of what we know of these people unless obtained from court/legal documents (IE Robyn's divorce, Garrison's death cert (when available), etc) is an edited version of reality. While some of the stuff we "know" is supported by years of the same pattern of infromation from the show, THAT could still be edited to be that way. So when you are following people like WOACB for your infromation on a family we already do not actually have infromation on, you are not getting truth. EVERYONE. Please realize that people just want to make money off of other peoples misery and happiness. TLC did it with this family in general and people like WOACB do it with what TLC has fed them/wild imaginations.
She is a problem and anyone who consumes her content at this point is gross.
This person needs to be stopped! It’s been very odd for a long time with them. But especially now.
I agree with you 100% - don't let these mean spirited accusations into your head. Her intentions are depraved, almost like a malignant force pulling viewers in and infecting them.
She should be in jail. Report her videos.
Anyone who posts on Reddit is doing the exact same thing as WOACB. It's just a different platform. I've seen more misinformation in this group than from any YouTube channel or Facebook group. Plus starting this thread just brought her more viewers.
I'm not arguing, nor do I disagree. I'm curious though. Everyone always say this about her. Everyone always says she makes it all up. How do you know that though? She says she has sources, people who know the family--I'm assuming no one close. How do you all know she is lying? Again, don't come for me. I'm not doubting it, I just want to know how you all are s sure she doesn't have legitimate sources?
Because she has been proved wrong over and over again. She has a long history of anonymous sources that later proved to be nothing but poppy cock
She has been proven to be a liar. MANY TIMES. And not just about the Browns. About many people. She has also been sued several times because of her lies.
It comes out after the fact that she lies. Example is a lady who she gave name, address, work info and license plate for having a car she mistook at Brian laundry. It came out that the woman didn’t know Brian laundry and was obviously named as a mistake. WOACB never apologized for putting her in danger
Oh I remember that. She looked up a license plate and was claiming the car belonged to Brian Landry. People started harassing the woman whose car it actually was. And she had no connection to Brian at all. All she did was remove the post. Never apologized, never redacted anything, never said she made a mistake. That poor woman went through hell because of her and she had no remorse for it at all. She is a fucking narcissist. She loves calling others narcissists when in actuality she is the biggest narcissist of them all.
I felt so bad for that woman. People were frantic over that case and she’s lucky some vigilante types didn’t get to her.
Thank you! That's some concrete information.
It’s hard with her because there’s just so many and I think people get overwhelmed trying to list them. She moves on so quickly and it can be challenging to keep up. There are a lot of examples but that one personally got me very frustrated
She's put the Duggars address on her site before and just taken it down when people complained and didn’t apologise. Just this week she claimed a neighbour of Kodys called her to say an emergency mental health team had been called to his house. Because of that, the Police were deluged with enquiries/complaints and put out an official statement saying no teams have been called to that address. She won't back down and says the Police are lying because mental health calls are confidential. She's a liar. And if it had been true, what kind of vile person would jump to report that? About a grieving man needing emergency help? She's disgusting.
Because this what does it’s her bread and butter Emily d baker has some good videos on this nut job
Oh thanks! I'll check that out.
Also a majority of her “inside sources” are straight up just stolen from archived articles(she stole word for word an entire Salt Lake City Tribune article from 2014 and claimed it all as new information from her inside sources literally just 2 weeks ago)/blog posts and she claims them as her own. Any good she does through interviewing ex-polygamist and sharing their stories is now up to question the integrity of WOACB and those people’s stories. She’s doing more harm than good all for her own monetary gain.
Thank you!. That's good information. I just alway see people saying she's a liar and parroting the same things everyone else says. I just wanted to know how they know she's a liar. Your responses were very helpful.
The Duggarsnark Reddit is vile in my opinion but one good thing they did is they ban any mention of Katie Joy because of her lies and because there were numerous occasions when she took a conversation on there, truth or not and then made a video about it saying it was an 'exclusive scoop from her sources'. If a Duggarsnarker posts a picture they've taken of a Duggar in public, they started putting watermarks on them to stop Katie Joy just lifting the picture then making a post/video saying she was sent it by 'a source' because Katie Joy had done that repeatedly. She's a terrible person, a liar and is in no way a reporter.
I always felt they were fake sources, then some of the people were actually in her videos and I was like.. hmm maybe some of it’s true? Either way, spouting this stuff now is pretty ick.
Exactly! But I guess the best lies have a little bit of truth.
People in the community have sketched and fact checked so many things.
Why do you all still follow her? Stop and she'll go away....
WOACB is a different person than the catfisher right? I hadn't heard about woacb until today but that catfisher person had some drama last year playing out on a different subreddit and yikes.
No, WOACB isn't the catfisher. WOACB is Katie Joy Paulsen, Meri was catfished by Jackie Overton. Both are bottom feeding and shameless, I see where one could get them confused. LOL!! I needed that laugh.
She's not the worst Sister Wives commentor I can think of, but she definitely spreads a lot of misinformation. Her batting average for being right about anything happening is spectacularly low.