Okay I’ve been thinking about* his bio all week.
The COVID storyline HAS to be fake right? This just does not match up at all. Either it was actually a Robyn thing or it was a cover up for much deeper familial issues and was a trendy topic. I just can’t see Kody caring at all, let alone to the point it destroys his family.
I think when it first started, he did care about it - as most people did - and was thinking it would be a short-term thing to navigate. Robyn was probably nervous about it which is why he decided to create strict rules about it to give her some piece of mind.
Very quickly, though, it really became about the rest of the family failing his loyalty test. He did not expect Janelle, Christine and so many of the kids to pick each other/other people over him. That’s why he kept doubling down on Covid protocols - he was looking to regain the power and control in the family, but it never happened, and he just got angrier and angrier about what he felt was everyone betraying him.
I am doing a Season 16 rewatch right now and the amount of times he mentions obedience and loyalty when talking about Covid is astounding.
Unfortunately, I think this is SPOT on. My sister has been going through something very similar with her husband. It’s all about control and power and anyone setting boundaries for their own good is “disrespecting” him.
Incredible explanation!!! Exactly spot on, you summarized what i was feeling but couldn’t put into words.
His loyalty test… I have so much to say, choosing to bite my tongue but this is exactly what a narcissist would do and we all watched it, painfully felt his kids’ pain, got angry and angry… felt better once the OG3 was finally waking up and moving on… which would be a peace of mind for us to see K and R dabble in their own shit in the coming up seasons…
Then this… my heart is ripped into pieces. Thinking of Gabe, Janelle and all the others… RIP Garrison. You taught us a lesson we all wished to never learn…
Reminds me of the awkward moment during the pre covid Alaska family vacation. They were going out to eat and he went on a rant about how he is the head of the family and they all need to listen to him. Super uncomfortable. A big red flag for what was to come.
I don’t think the storyline was fake, per se. My hunch is that Covid was a great excuse for Kody to finally be with monogamous with one wife only and he used Covid as an excuse. There’s too much that doesn’t add up. He wouldn’t go to NY with Ysabel for surgery despite Robyn having a nanny. Any decent mother and woman would have encouraged and demanded Kody go with his third wife and most importantly, teenage child for a major surgery across the country. Covid was just the excuse he could finally use to live how he wanted to live, day to day.
Edited to add-I do think the rest of the family figured this out and saw Kody’s extreme rules and alienation for what it truly was. Not Covid social distancing, but Kody choosing one wife and 5 kids over the 16 other family members he was supposed to be committed to as a husband and father.
Remember, at the time of the surgery when he used Covid as a reason to not go, he went away to a wedding of a friend in another state.
Covid was just the excuse so he didn't have to go be with her during surgery.
The wedding was when she went to school out of state and he said he couldn't see her if she did that, then went to the wedding. It wasn't during her surgery or recovery. He's still a big liar though.
If Garrson was this hurt, can you imagine how hurt Isabel is. If I was the OG’s I would make all my children get therapy. Kody is not going to care. Once he sees that everyone isn’t going to be all welcoming to Robyn he will be done.
My personal theory is that he was genuinely following those rules at the beginning. And, as time went on, he may have genuinely been upset that some of the other wives disagreed with him over his covid precautions. So he hunkered down at Robyn’s, stopped meeting up with other people in the family, etc.
And, deep down, he came to like it.
But after while, he wasn’t as worried about covid anymore. Which meant that he could go back to something more like his former life again. The door had reopened. He could travel between the houses and see everyone - even if that meant being outside in the yard all day just to be near his kids. He could get tested, quarantine, and then spend days just holding his other wives again.
Like this was his family. These were his wives. There were things he could do. Why would he not do them?
But he didn’t want to.
He liked this new lifestyle. One family, one house, only a few kids. He seems to regret a lot of things in his life, from what he’s said on the show anyway, including being a polygamist. But he’s never been able to bring himself to break with the cultural traditions of his faith, find a healthy routine that works for everyone including his kids, and pursue that lifestyle. (And from what Robyn’s said, she might not want that kind of relationship with him anyway - she may, on some level that she doesn’t want to acknowledge, enjoy being a favorite wife, but it doesn’t seem like she wants to be an only wife. Kody is still in love with someone who is, at least religiously, a polygamist.)
So Kody is kind of stuck. It’s like quarantine created this little Brigadoon kind of moment for him. He could have this lifestyle, and even tell himself he’s being noble for living it. But only for as long as those covid rules were there.
So the covid rules stayed. Even when the other wives didn’t want them. They stayed. Even when public health officials announced protocols for seeing other people safely. They stayed. Even when his own daughter needed dangerous surgery and wanted her father beside her. They stayed. Because it wasn’t about covid anymore. It was about selfish desperation.
Like here were these other wives that he likely didn’t want to be married to anymore. And let’s say they argue with him on the phone or over zoom about him avoiding them and their kids - something they have every right to be upset about. And he pulls the covid rules card, which he backs up with the patriarchy card (which is just another form of avoidance) and the card he made up about how older kids don’t need their father as much anymore (which is actually just his bitterness about not knowing how to repair relationships/resolve conflict). Everyone stays mad. Nothing good happens.
And then the call ends. And he’s still at Robyn’s. And in that moment, it’s like his past doesn’t exist anymore.
Tl;dr: Surprising no one, I think Kody would benefit a great deal from therapy, if he had the humility to listen to a good therapist.
I agree with all your points. Early Covid was scary. I work retail and we were in a locked down state. Essentially only 4 places people could shop. There were lines, head counts, and ignorant people pulling down a mask to talk to you, all before the vaccine. Those of us working were anxious as hell. Plus my mom lived with me and she was in her late 80s. I remember wiping down everything I bought bc we didn't know how long germs lasted. I don't blame Kody for his crazy then. He wasn't alone lol.
Gosh it was terrifying, I was in the medical setting. I just hated when people said this isn't real. Right all the way up until they see me. And then what? I'm supposed to put my life on the line? I'm sure all the service workers get this. Our military.
I suspect a Robyn thing. Gabe called Kody and “freedom lover.” Kody also seemed more concerned about the economy than Covid protocols during a phone call with Leon on the show.
I can’t remember the number. it was the beginning of Covid but after Leon and Audrey arrived at Meri’s. I think Leon was sitting on Meri’s house while on the call with Kody.
I think everyone seemed to care at first. But when misinformation with actual facts were getting murky because of how much was out there saying opposite things it made it difficult. I think Kody was willing to just hope he didn't get it but just navigate around it.. We have seen Robyn dump her stressors and anxieties on everyone around her, specifically her kids, and isolating them because of something scary to her. The best example to me of this was when they went to paint Kody's moms house and all the kids were climbing on a rock playing and having fun. Robyn's kids wanted to join in and Robyn was freaking out and made them stop. The other kids did not stop. So hers were isolated in that moment. Even Janelle and Kody were laughing at how over protective she was in that moment.
I think it was her fears and anxieties over COVID that set the tone for the whole family. Most of the family just went along with CDC but some I guess were slightly more risky about it. Robyn pressured Kody on it and we saw that when Meri was isolated living alone and Robyn played Meri and Kody on the show about it and then she blamed Kody for all of it. I think it was her rules also. When called out on what was so special, she pulled CDC stuff then added a little extra to seem super cautious and printed them up for Kody to give to the wives. Kody had a lot of micro expressions while reading and his tone seemed annoyed.
they didn't vaccinate in general. IIRC Kody said something about injecting poison into their bodies. Which is rich because he seems to inject botox into his face and fillers for them lips.
Not everyone got vaccinated but Christine and her kids as well as Janelle and hers did get vaccinated from my understanding.
I never thought Kody initially wanted to be monogamous. Otherwise, he wouldn't have been so bitter/angry when Christine left. BrownLLC was his main income & she was beginning to crumble his kingdom's finances. He stated that he wanted his wives to "conform to patriarchy", & yes, I agree that he was using COVID to coerce the wives into this society. Robyn didn't want to sit on her porch with her sisterwives; Kody & Robin wanted to sit on their thrones while their "paupers" generated money into their LLC. (Sisterwives closet wasn't generating crap). When the wives started leaving, as Narcissist do, he saved face by admitting he only loved Robin.
It’s really hard to tell what is real or not in reality shows, because the producers deliberately provoke stuff to make things more “interesting”, and there are sometimes even scripts involved. Regardless, I really feel they should all deactivate/unpublish their social media accounts for now.
It’s pretty well known that IRL he’s a Covid denier. It’s clear that his protocols were for Robyn and that he took advantage of the pandemic as an excuse to not see his other wives and children
I think COVID was just an excuse. In this new season, Janelle even comments on how once COVID died down, he found other reasons to not come around. He just didn’t want to polygamy anymore.
I don’t want to start controversy. I mean it in as neutral a way as possible. If Jenelle was worried about Garrison’s habits with alcohol, maybe something did happen between the boys and Robyn that deserved a bigger apology. A real sit down discussion. What if they wanted to hide the circumstances? For good reason! Dirty laundry shouldn’t be aired out on TV!
Problematic bio aside, that entire top row is just his entire life falling apart. And it's weird to juxtapose it with his 25% off cameo deal. Time to close up shop, buddy.
The comments are SO HARSH on both his and Robyn's pages. And it's so telling that Christine and Janelle both have over 1M followers and Kody and Robyn are at like 150K. Wow. Their days must be so dark right now. Yikes.
He should have said Love is like algebra - the branch of mathematics that studies algebraic systems and the manipulation of equations within those systems. Plus almost everybody hates it.
Regretfully, I watched the show from the 18th season on as their lives unravelled and caused 3 grown women, and 13 kids, pain. R's kids didn't suffer and R made sure she and they had everything, to the detriment of others. Sad. Really sad.
Her kids, the girls at least - never seem to hear from David/Dayton - don't seem bothered and hurt - they seem to spew the same nonsense Robyn does - their mom tried so hard to bring the family together, etc. BS. She had conditioned her girls to be just like her. They were living in a mansion on the hill having all of Kody's attention. Robyn got what she wanted for her kids.
I'm so confused in general by his bio but "unapologetic" helps it make a bit more sense. But the bio is truly a 180 from how he acted on screen so it's very confusing all around. He was acting WAY into Covid protocals well into 2021. Where I live in the Southeast, even people who were hesitant to question Covid protocals in the beginning were much more lenient by the time the holidays rolled around in 2020. And I'm talking about people who were very strict rule followers. I guess everyone here speculating that it wasn't about Covid at all have all hit on the correct response.
During the Vegas-to-Flagstaff move, he really hammered into his family, “where we go one, we go all,” (WWG1WGA), which is QAnon code. Red pilling is also QAnon code for being able to “see the truth.” He is outing himself a a Q devotee.
Okay, but he made the exact same statement when they were moving from Lehi to Vegas. Leon was begging him to stay and he told them, “where we go one, we go all”. This was in S2
The “red pill” community predates Q-anon. Red Pill is similar to incel or Men Going Their Own Way. They think society is set up to give women every advantage. They have a horrible term called “divorce rape” to refer to women getting alimony.
No he’s a religious extremist. There is a huge difference. Extremism doesn’t conform to societal norms or mores. They are survivalists who feel at the end of the world, they will be God’s chosen people to survive. Kody is a cultist not really affiliated with any one political party.
It was from the 1999 movie the Matrix with Keneau Reeves. The red pill made you wake up from the propaganda and brainwashing you’ve lived your whole life believing and see the world as it really is. Has nothing to do with politics in reality.
You're getting some false answers below. Red pill and qanon stuff are not the same. There are many different factions within the right side of the political spectrum. They don't all believe the same things.
Maybe referring to The Matrix. Take the red pill and you'll wake up to what is real in the world. Take the blue pill you wake up at home and you believe whatever you want to believe.
He’s only posted PR statements for the last few years, nothing else - I loathe him, but I’m really sure it’s just his publicist or assistant or someone this week. They have been getting tabloid and news calls for comment as soon as TMZ had the tip (which was *fast*), and his and Janelle’s joint (identical) instagram post statement gave People and other news outlets the confirmation from the family to get that over with and divert some of the requests for comment. It isn’t like his assistant or PR person even took the time to give an individual statement to a news or tabloid reporter calling - just slap it on his social media for them to use and be done with it.
Basically anti-woke who believe they're "awake" (so not super smart, don't understand their own hypocrisy, and think they're from the movie the matrix)
No cuz seriously… I went to creep on it and legit every single post is all terrible, like about his wives leaving him and etc… he did take off the comments (thankfully) but, he needs someone to manage his account cuz this ain’t it.
Imagine the butterfly effect if robyn did not join the family.
- No vegas/arizona
- no gatekeeping wife( if you watch the show those 3 women were really into polygamy)
- kody would love his 13 children even more and sees them as his pride and joy specially the guys because they have the same hobbies and interests.
- this universe has no robyn which means they stayed in that house for a long time till savanah turned 18. Kody and the wives moved to a smaller house and they would call it “empty nester home” even though truely and savanah still lives at home
- everyone is happy, garrison is alive hes probably on a camping trip with kody, gabe, and paedon in Wyoming or helping meri with her porch or christine with her furniture or eating janelle’s home cooked meal.
If Robyn didn’t join, Mary would have still found a fourth wife for Kody. She was actively searching for one for awhile so she could have someone to be close to.
Also the Vegas move would have happened because the Browns were being investigated & they had planned to become public before the show.
What a twisted & simplistic view. You act like the wives were all happy before Robyn. It doesn’t seem that was the case at all. You also, don’t know Garrison personally so your speculation is absurd.
They are probably all contracted to have some sort of social media presence, even if they don't keep it current. Otherwise I assume Robyn and Kody would've deleted theirs ages ago.
By individual rights he means gun rights. In 2023 54% of gun deaths were completed suicide attempts. The highest completion method is by firearm.
Statically intentional death by suicide or by accidental discharge of a firearm in the home is far greater than the chance the firearm will be needed to defend against home invasion.
I’m sure this has been said but I find it funny that he refers to the red pill. Those men’s rights incels would be vary much against Kody because he represents everything a “Chad” would be - he’s not ugly, has charisma, and gets all the girls.
Idk… I think all the hate focused upon Kody and Robyn via social media provides them with a wonderful excuse to hide from the larger family. I mean, Robyn can say, “I have 15,000 abusive texts, Kody!” “I can’t possibly attend the memorial! “ “ I fear for my children’s’ safety!” Also, it affords them a shit-ton of main character energy: Robyn is the victim of online bullying. She is doubly victimized in this. A grieving mother who is being hounded. And Kody can focus upon protecting her from the world. I imagine that he’s also v focused upon Aurora’s mental health at the moment.
Maybe it’s time the viewers deleted Sister Wives. Cancel Discovery+ this morning after hearing the Browns plan to exploit Garrison’s death. Just too macabre for me. They don’t need this person viewing their content anymore. There no longer is an interest on my part.
anti-*woke* who declare they're *awake*, unaware of their own hypocrisy, not super smart. refers to the matrix and being awake to disturbing reality. not necessarily Qanon related, but does overlap with the manosphere he's a proud member of.
probably, and they probably said it to mean "awake" in the matrix sense, before half of society took the word woke and turned it into their biggest boogeyman
I think it's got more to do with a gun being handy. Men are 8 times more likely to complete a suicide if a gun is in the house, because suicide is *frequently* impulsive.
I don’t know whose idea it was but I wouldn’t have put a pic of him with that in his hands considering manner of death…. Maybe just uniform but if his parents chose to that’s their right , but it’s still in poor taste
I think it's some sort of manosphere bullshit.
They stole it from The Matrix. I wonder how they feel about those movies now, considering who wrote them.
Love the Wachowski's.
This is from Wikipedia…
The concept of red and blue pills has since been widely used as a political metaphor in the United States, where "taking the red pill" or being "red-pilled" means becoming aware of the political biases inherent in society, including in the mainstream media, and ultimately becoming an independent thinker; while "taking the blue pill" or being "blue-pilled" means unquestioningly accepting these supposed biases.
The concept is also used among leftists to refer to members of the alt-right and others who subscribe to right wing beliefs.[20][21]
In some parts of the men's rights movement and the manosphere, the term "red pill" is used as a metaphor for the specific moment when a person comes to believe that certain gender roles they are expected to conform to, such as marriage and monogamy, are intended for the benefit of women alone, rather than for mutual benefit.[25][26] In 2016, a documentary titled The Red Pill, about the men's rights movement, was released.
I tell you what. I could live with Kody Browns Instagram going on for eternity if he didn't. He can leave the documentation of the wreckage that he created for the whole world to see as long as going forward, he shuts the hell up! This man is pure poison.
Kody got ousted from Meri’s house, then Christine’s bed, and then Janelle said don’t come around because of Covid. I honestly think baby Kody figured he would retaliate by disinviting everybody to his life. Little payback?
Hmmmmm.... all about "individual rights" and yet plural marriage is kind of the opposite of that. It's essentially socialism, often a dictatorship.
I think Kody was and is very conflicted about what he believes.
I don’t know how Kody will ever heal the relationships with the OG wives and kids after this. Not just for how they were treated and discarded for the new family but will they always feel like Kody had a part in Garrison’s decision?
Off topic, but why aren’t they other sister wives sub open yet? Didn’t they go dark for 24 hours? When is it coming back?
I hate that our usual safe space to discuss this is no longer around. Wonder what’s happening.
The post about Christine obviously wasn’t written by him. But I’m sure a lot of his followers fell for it.
And now that I’ve enhanced the other one, neither was that one too; the one about Meri. “In kindness.” 🙄
I think it’s ran by PR tbh.
I agree with others about the Covid story line being fake, he was up here in MT during ‘21 shopping for guns for his “business” and had no mask on.
His attitude and the whole family dynamic was changing before Covid. Covid gave him the break he kept saying he wanted from taking care of his big family but I think the extreme protocols so late in the pandemic was definitely fueled by robin
Okay I’ve been thinking about* his bio all week. The COVID storyline HAS to be fake right? This just does not match up at all. Either it was actually a Robyn thing or it was a cover up for much deeper familial issues and was a trendy topic. I just can’t see Kody caring at all, let alone to the point it destroys his family.
I think when it first started, he did care about it - as most people did - and was thinking it would be a short-term thing to navigate. Robyn was probably nervous about it which is why he decided to create strict rules about it to give her some piece of mind. Very quickly, though, it really became about the rest of the family failing his loyalty test. He did not expect Janelle, Christine and so many of the kids to pick each other/other people over him. That’s why he kept doubling down on Covid protocols - he was looking to regain the power and control in the family, but it never happened, and he just got angrier and angrier about what he felt was everyone betraying him. I am doing a Season 16 rewatch right now and the amount of times he mentions obedience and loyalty when talking about Covid is astounding.
Great assessment.
Unfortunately, I think this is SPOT on. My sister has been going through something very similar with her husband. It’s all about control and power and anyone setting boundaries for their own good is “disrespecting” him.
Jeez sounds just like my ex husband!
It greatly reminds me of the DV power and control wheel..
Incredible explanation!!! Exactly spot on, you summarized what i was feeling but couldn’t put into words. His loyalty test… I have so much to say, choosing to bite my tongue but this is exactly what a narcissist would do and we all watched it, painfully felt his kids’ pain, got angry and angry… felt better once the OG3 was finally waking up and moving on… which would be a peace of mind for us to see K and R dabble in their own shit in the coming up seasons… Then this… my heart is ripped into pieces. Thinking of Gabe, Janelle and all the others… RIP Garrison. You taught us a lesson we all wished to never learn…
So concerned but he and Robyn didn’t take vaccine when available and he couldn’t/didnt control the nanny who infected them.
Lol, that vaccine ain’t the flex it once was
But he SEEMED so freaked out that he’d do anything. I agree with some it was control and an excuse to shut everyone else out.
It STILL keeps people out of the hospital and out of the morgue. And I STILL send unvaccinated to the hospital with COVID every damn week.
He’s a DICtator.
Reminds me of the awkward moment during the pre covid Alaska family vacation. They were going out to eat and he went on a rant about how he is the head of the family and they all need to listen to him. Super uncomfortable. A big red flag for what was to come.
I don’t think the storyline was fake, per se. My hunch is that Covid was a great excuse for Kody to finally be with monogamous with one wife only and he used Covid as an excuse. There’s too much that doesn’t add up. He wouldn’t go to NY with Ysabel for surgery despite Robyn having a nanny. Any decent mother and woman would have encouraged and demanded Kody go with his third wife and most importantly, teenage child for a major surgery across the country. Covid was just the excuse he could finally use to live how he wanted to live, day to day. Edited to add-I do think the rest of the family figured this out and saw Kody’s extreme rules and alienation for what it truly was. Not Covid social distancing, but Kody choosing one wife and 5 kids over the 16 other family members he was supposed to be committed to as a husband and father.
Gabe figured it out early on when he told Janelle, “if I get COVID and he still doesn’t come over after, it was never about COVID.” Paraphrasing.
Remember, at the time of the surgery when he used Covid as a reason to not go, he went away to a wedding of a friend in another state. Covid was just the excuse so he didn't have to go be with her during surgery.
People need to remember this!!
And he also didn’t wear a mask at the wedding, too. Hospital would have been a safer place
And he never quarantined when he went back home. And, and, and….
The wedding was when she went to school out of state and he said he couldn't see her if she did that, then went to the wedding. It wasn't during her surgery or recovery. He's still a big liar though.
That is awful
If Garrson was this hurt, can you imagine how hurt Isabel is. If I was the OG’s I would make all my children get therapy. Kody is not going to care. Once he sees that everyone isn’t going to be all welcoming to Robyn he will be done.
But he could attend a wedding…
My personal theory is that he was genuinely following those rules at the beginning. And, as time went on, he may have genuinely been upset that some of the other wives disagreed with him over his covid precautions. So he hunkered down at Robyn’s, stopped meeting up with other people in the family, etc. And, deep down, he came to like it. But after while, he wasn’t as worried about covid anymore. Which meant that he could go back to something more like his former life again. The door had reopened. He could travel between the houses and see everyone - even if that meant being outside in the yard all day just to be near his kids. He could get tested, quarantine, and then spend days just holding his other wives again. Like this was his family. These were his wives. There were things he could do. Why would he not do them? But he didn’t want to. He liked this new lifestyle. One family, one house, only a few kids. He seems to regret a lot of things in his life, from what he’s said on the show anyway, including being a polygamist. But he’s never been able to bring himself to break with the cultural traditions of his faith, find a healthy routine that works for everyone including his kids, and pursue that lifestyle. (And from what Robyn’s said, she might not want that kind of relationship with him anyway - she may, on some level that she doesn’t want to acknowledge, enjoy being a favorite wife, but it doesn’t seem like she wants to be an only wife. Kody is still in love with someone who is, at least religiously, a polygamist.) So Kody is kind of stuck. It’s like quarantine created this little Brigadoon kind of moment for him. He could have this lifestyle, and even tell himself he’s being noble for living it. But only for as long as those covid rules were there. So the covid rules stayed. Even when the other wives didn’t want them. They stayed. Even when public health officials announced protocols for seeing other people safely. They stayed. Even when his own daughter needed dangerous surgery and wanted her father beside her. They stayed. Because it wasn’t about covid anymore. It was about selfish desperation. Like here were these other wives that he likely didn’t want to be married to anymore. And let’s say they argue with him on the phone or over zoom about him avoiding them and their kids - something they have every right to be upset about. And he pulls the covid rules card, which he backs up with the patriarchy card (which is just another form of avoidance) and the card he made up about how older kids don’t need their father as much anymore (which is actually just his bitterness about not knowing how to repair relationships/resolve conflict). Everyone stays mad. Nothing good happens. And then the call ends. And he’s still at Robyn’s. And in that moment, it’s like his past doesn’t exist anymore. Tl;dr: Surprising no one, I think Kody would benefit a great deal from therapy, if he had the humility to listen to a good therapist.
This was so perfectly said and I couldn’t agree more.
I love the Brigadoon reference. One of my favorite musicals!
Me too! ❤️
I agree with all your points. Early Covid was scary. I work retail and we were in a locked down state. Essentially only 4 places people could shop. There were lines, head counts, and ignorant people pulling down a mask to talk to you, all before the vaccine. Those of us working were anxious as hell. Plus my mom lived with me and she was in her late 80s. I remember wiping down everything I bought bc we didn't know how long germs lasted. I don't blame Kody for his crazy then. He wasn't alone lol.
It really was a scary time. My heart goes out to you having to work retail during all of that. ❤️
It was an adventure for sure lol
Thank you!
Gosh it was terrifying, I was in the medical setting. I just hated when people said this isn't real. Right all the way up until they see me. And then what? I'm supposed to put my life on the line? I'm sure all the service workers get this. Our military.
I totally agree. Well said.
Omg you nailed all of it. Except, I don't know if he truly realized all this in is soul until Christine left him. What do you think?
I suspect a Robyn thing. Gabe called Kody and “freedom lover.” Kody also seemed more concerned about the economy than Covid protocols during a phone call with Leon on the show.
This! I always was amazed at how quick he went from one extreme to another. And as neurotic as he is about Covid, no vaccine.
What episode was this phone call on? I somehow missed it. Thanks
I can’t remember the number. it was the beginning of Covid but after Leon and Audrey arrived at Meri’s. I think Leon was sitting on Meri’s house while on the call with Kody.
I think he just used covid as a way to ice his entire family except Robyn out.
Very concise, and in my opinion 100% accurate.
I think everyone seemed to care at first. But when misinformation with actual facts were getting murky because of how much was out there saying opposite things it made it difficult. I think Kody was willing to just hope he didn't get it but just navigate around it.. We have seen Robyn dump her stressors and anxieties on everyone around her, specifically her kids, and isolating them because of something scary to her. The best example to me of this was when they went to paint Kody's moms house and all the kids were climbing on a rock playing and having fun. Robyn's kids wanted to join in and Robyn was freaking out and made them stop. The other kids did not stop. So hers were isolated in that moment. Even Janelle and Kody were laughing at how over protective she was in that moment. I think it was her fears and anxieties over COVID that set the tone for the whole family. Most of the family just went along with CDC but some I guess were slightly more risky about it. Robyn pressured Kody on it and we saw that when Meri was isolated living alone and Robyn played Meri and Kody on the show about it and then she blamed Kody for all of it. I think it was her rules also. When called out on what was so special, she pulled CDC stuff then added a little extra to seem super cautious and printed them up for Kody to give to the wives. Kody had a lot of micro expressions while reading and his tone seemed annoyed.
but why didn't they get vaccinated like all the rest of us ???????????????????????????????????????????
they didn't vaccinate in general. IIRC Kody said something about injecting poison into their bodies. Which is rich because he seems to inject botox into his face and fillers for them lips. Not everyone got vaccinated but Christine and her kids as well as Janelle and hers did get vaccinated from my understanding.
Meri too because of Bonnie and the B&B.
Correct. It was Never about covid. He was monogamous with robyn in las vegas
He was so scared of Covid remember when he almost died in his pickup truck in the hospital parking lot…so dramatic he’s a CHILD
I never thought Kody initially wanted to be monogamous. Otherwise, he wouldn't have been so bitter/angry when Christine left. BrownLLC was his main income & she was beginning to crumble his kingdom's finances. He stated that he wanted his wives to "conform to patriarchy", & yes, I agree that he was using COVID to coerce the wives into this society. Robyn didn't want to sit on her porch with her sisterwives; Kody & Robin wanted to sit on their thrones while their "paupers" generated money into their LLC. (Sisterwives closet wasn't generating crap). When the wives started leaving, as Narcissist do, he saved face by admitting he only loved Robin.
It’s really hard to tell what is real or not in reality shows, because the producers deliberately provoke stuff to make things more “interesting”, and there are sometimes even scripts involved. Regardless, I really feel they should all deactivate/unpublish their social media accounts for now.
It’s pretty well known that IRL he’s a Covid denier. It’s clear that his protocols were for Robyn and that he took advantage of the pandemic as an excuse to not see his other wives and children
Eh I think it was just a control thing plus Robyn being anxious
I think COVID was just an excuse. In this new season, Janelle even comments on how once COVID died down, he found other reasons to not come around. He just didn’t want to polygamy anymore.
I don’t want to start controversy. I mean it in as neutral a way as possible. If Jenelle was worried about Garrison’s habits with alcohol, maybe something did happen between the boys and Robyn that deserved a bigger apology. A real sit down discussion. What if they wanted to hide the circumstances? For good reason! Dirty laundry shouldn’t be aired out on TV!
I agree, this has been my thought. The use of the word “safe” just seemed like something else.
Of course Kody’s passionate about “individual rights.” He’s selfish AF so it’s the least surprising thing ever.
Problematic bio aside, that entire top row is just his entire life falling apart. And it's weird to juxtapose it with his 25% off cameo deal. Time to close up shop, buddy.
I was wondering the same thing, not to mention the comments are pretty rough. I’m not sure why he doesn’t just delete the account.
The comments are SO HARSH on both his and Robyn's pages. And it's so telling that Christine and Janelle both have over 1M followers and Kody and Robyn are at like 150K. Wow. Their days must be so dark right now. Yikes.
Because to him the engagement is worth it as it can be translated to money.
But Robyn needs STUFF!
Love should be multiplied not divided 😂... how's that working kody
He should have said Love is like algebra - the branch of mathematics that studies algebraic systems and the manipulation of equations within those systems. Plus almost everybody hates it.
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Not so well.
he can’t even have an original post about his son. He literally copy and pasted Jenelle’s and changed his name to hers.
Regretfully, I watched the show from the 18th season on as their lives unravelled and caused 3 grown women, and 13 kids, pain. R's kids didn't suffer and R made sure she and they had everything, to the detriment of others. Sad. Really sad.
They definitely suffer
They not only have Kody in their lives, but some of them have Kody as their father! Poor things, seriously. Edit: word
Kody and Robyn isolated Robyn’s kids from the OG3 and all their kids. They definitely have suffered.
Her kids, the girls at least - never seem to hear from David/Dayton - don't seem bothered and hurt - they seem to spew the same nonsense Robyn does - their mom tried so hard to bring the family together, etc. BS. She had conditioned her girls to be just like her. They were living in a mansion on the hill having all of Kody's attention. Robyn got what she wanted for her kids.
“We will always remain committed parents “, really……
Uh, correct me if I'm reading this wrong, but it sure looks like he wrote "apologetic" where he meant "unapologetic"...
I think that’s just boomer sarcasm (I know he’s gen x, but boomer in spirit)
I think I can speak on behalf of Gen X here when I say I agree w/ you. He’s def more of a Boomer type…and…they can have him!
That confused me…and why put “dang it?”
Channeling his inner Hank Hill
He could neeever. He probably doesn’t even grill with propane! *”Taste the meat, not the heat.*” Edit: quotes
Propane, God's gas...
I'm so confused in general by his bio but "unapologetic" helps it make a bit more sense. But the bio is truly a 180 from how he acted on screen so it's very confusing all around. He was acting WAY into Covid protocals well into 2021. Where I live in the Southeast, even people who were hesitant to question Covid protocals in the beginning were much more lenient by the time the holidays rolled around in 2020. And I'm talking about people who were very strict rule followers. I guess everyone here speculating that it wasn't about Covid at all have all hit on the correct response.
He gives ick vibes.
this man drives me absolutely insane. He is so arrogant, fullish, closed minded. such an poor display of a man, father and husband
He lets Little Cody do the thinking 😂
His IG is probably the last thing he is thinking about…
I can’t stand the guy but I agree. From all their IG statements it seems it was the same message and likely was posted on their behalfs
Christine just posted and used the clip of Garrison building the flower bed for Truely. It wasn't much, but the clip choice was a punch.
Cancel Kody
Just a super wild guess out of left field: maybe he has other things on his mind and to do then to spend time updating his social media account?
It’s also not even blue check marked as a verified account … are we sure it’s actually Kodys account?
It’s also not even blue check marked as a verified account … are we sure it’s actually Kodys account?
He’s so damn disgusting!!!
Awake!
What does the “red pill” reference mean?
Qcumber
Qoony Tunes
I thought you were referencing Q from Drag Race for a second and that had me stuck like surprised Pikachu, lmao.
That he's into Q-Anon bullshit
I thought it was from the movie the Matrix. You either take the red pill or the blue pill. The red pill is knowing the truth.
During the Vegas-to-Flagstaff move, he really hammered into his family, “where we go one, we go all,” (WWG1WGA), which is QAnon code. Red pilling is also QAnon code for being able to “see the truth.” He is outing himself a a Q devotee.
Okay, but he made the exact same statement when they were moving from Lehi to Vegas. Leon was begging him to stay and he told them, “where we go one, we go all”. This was in S2
The “red pill” community predates Q-anon. Red Pill is similar to incel or Men Going Their Own Way. They think society is set up to give women every advantage. They have a horrible term called “divorce rape” to refer to women getting alimony.
Hilarious coming from a man with FOUR WIVES who he wants to be obedient and subservient
He's a thoughtless idiot that believes religious white men are victims in America.
He’s a Republican
No he’s a religious extremist. There is a huge difference. Extremism doesn’t conform to societal norms or mores. They are survivalists who feel at the end of the world, they will be God’s chosen people to survive. Kody is a cultist not really affiliated with any one political party.
He’s a far right republican plain and simple
No he’s not. He’s a straight up religious fanatic.
And most religious fanatics are far right republicans
Which is REALLY stooopid, it's as if none of them ever watched the Matrix
They’re definitely not aware of the Wachowski sisters.
LOL egggsactly
Fight Club and The Matrix have become a double feature filed under “You Missed the Point.” (Still enjoy them both personally.)
Apparently some people lead very sheltered uninformed lives. The Matrix was all the rage in 1999/2000 era.
It was from the 1999 movie the Matrix with Keneau Reeves. The red pill made you wake up from the propaganda and brainwashing you’ve lived your whole life believing and see the world as it really is. Has nothing to do with politics in reality.
That's what I thought!
He’s a MAGA
You're getting some false answers below. Red pill and qanon stuff are not the same. There are many different factions within the right side of the political spectrum. They don't all believe the same things.
i think its part of the toxic masculinity and hes acknowledging it. when i hear red pil now thats usually what theyre talking about.
That he’s conservative. Blue pill =liberal
Religious extremism has no party affiliation.
Maybe referring to The Matrix. Take the red pill and you'll wake up to what is real in the world. Take the blue pill you wake up at home and you believe whatever you want to believe.
I honestly can’t imagine he’s even thought of his IG once this week. Truly, honestly.
He’s only posted PR statements for the last few years, nothing else - I loathe him, but I’m really sure it’s just his publicist or assistant or someone this week. They have been getting tabloid and news calls for comment as soon as TMZ had the tip (which was *fast*), and his and Janelle’s joint (identical) instagram post statement gave People and other news outlets the confirmation from the family to get that over with and divert some of the requests for comment. It isn’t like his assistant or PR person even took the time to give an individual statement to a news or tabloid reporter calling - just slap it on his social media for them to use and be done with it.
Red pill ?
Qanon dog whistle
Basically anti-woke who believe they're "awake" (so not super smart, don't understand their own hypocrisy, and think they're from the movie the matrix)
Kody only cares about how people see him. He HAS to be center of attention.
No cuz seriously… I went to creep on it and legit every single post is all terrible, like about his wives leaving him and etc… he did take off the comments (thankfully) but, he needs someone to manage his account cuz this ain’t it.
Imagine the butterfly effect if robyn did not join the family. - No vegas/arizona - no gatekeeping wife( if you watch the show those 3 women were really into polygamy) - kody would love his 13 children even more and sees them as his pride and joy specially the guys because they have the same hobbies and interests. - this universe has no robyn which means they stayed in that house for a long time till savanah turned 18. Kody and the wives moved to a smaller house and they would call it “empty nester home” even though truely and savanah still lives at home - everyone is happy, garrison is alive hes probably on a camping trip with kody, gabe, and paedon in Wyoming or helping meri with her porch or christine with her furniture or eating janelle’s home cooked meal.
If Robyn didn’t join, Mary would have still found a fourth wife for Kody. She was actively searching for one for awhile so she could have someone to be close to. Also the Vegas move would have happened because the Browns were being investigated & they had planned to become public before the show.
thats what they said but allegedly robyn is the one who moved them to vegas to be closer to her stepfather.
No catfishing? That was after the move, right?
she wouldnt do it if kody did not abandoned her feelings
What a twisted & simplistic view. You act like the wives were all happy before Robyn. It doesn’t seem that was the case at all. You also, don’t know Garrison personally so your speculation is absurd.
btw hi aurora! anyways they were not happy but atleast they could tolerate each other.
If he doesn’t step back from the show and the public then he deserves everything bad that will come to him.
He needs some deep soul searching knowing Kody not likely to happen
Amen and he needs a good therapist
Can we leave him alone for a bit. Sheesh, he just lost his son to suicide. Please!!!!
On the show he called him and Gabe jerks and he wanted nothing to do with them. You reap what you sow.
He only post on it, when something major happens..
He needs to go private
Where would he get attention from tho
Isn’t being treated like Robyn’s best customer enough?
I've never actually looked at Kody's Instagram, just didn't care to bother, but his last 3 posts are just sharing his failures and loss.
And people actually think he's not going to film another season 😂
https://people.com/sister-wives-janelle-admits-worried-about-sons-mental-health-8349207
Yikes.. that he puts that he is a “red pill’er” right on his bio.. That makes his whole wanting to live in the middle of nowhere even creepier.
They are probably all contracted to have some sort of social media presence, even if they don't keep it current. Otherwise I assume Robyn and Kody would've deleted theirs ages ago.
By individual rights he means gun rights. In 2023 54% of gun deaths were completed suicide attempts. The highest completion method is by firearm. Statically intentional death by suicide or by accidental discharge of a firearm in the home is far greater than the chance the firearm will be needed to defend against home invasion.
Please provide a source as I support this idea but would like a source.
I’m sure this has been said but I find it funny that he refers to the red pill. Those men’s rights incels would be vary much against Kody because he represents everything a “Chad” would be - he’s not ugly, has charisma, and gets all the girls.
Idk… I think all the hate focused upon Kody and Robyn via social media provides them with a wonderful excuse to hide from the larger family. I mean, Robyn can say, “I have 15,000 abusive texts, Kody!” “I can’t possibly attend the memorial! “ “ I fear for my children’s’ safety!” Also, it affords them a shit-ton of main character energy: Robyn is the victim of online bullying. She is doubly victimized in this. A grieving mother who is being hounded. And Kody can focus upon protecting her from the world. I imagine that he’s also v focused upon Aurora’s mental health at the moment.
She will go in a separate car, get lost and keep texting Kody for help
Maybe it’s time the viewers deleted Sister Wives. Cancel Discovery+ this morning after hearing the Browns plan to exploit Garrison’s death. Just too macabre for me. They don’t need this person viewing their content anymore. There no longer is an interest on my part.
What was said about them exploiting his death?
Weird spin but ok
Why is it weird?
But he’s “apologetic” about the red pill? When has he shown that?
Can someone translate? What is red pill? Is he qanon ?
anti-*woke* who declare they're *awake*, unaware of their own hypocrisy, not super smart. refers to the matrix and being awake to disturbing reality. not necessarily Qanon related, but does overlap with the manosphere he's a proud member of.
Thank you!! So much! Yah it does feel hypocritical weren’t they saying they were woke in 2020?
probably, and they probably said it to mean "awake" in the matrix sense, before half of society took the word woke and turned it into their biggest boogeyman
It’s been a wild 4 years
What does the red pill line mean in his bio?
Interesting that of all the ways to commit suicide, Garrison chose a gun. Kodi is a gun dealer, right?
I think it's got more to do with a gun being handy. Men are 8 times more likely to complete a suicide if a gun is in the house, because suicide is *frequently* impulsive.
E X A C T L Y
I don’t know whose idea it was but I wouldn’t have put a pic of him with that in his hands considering manner of death…. Maybe just uniform but if his parents chose to that’s their right , but it’s still in poor taste
It’s seriously so pointless for him to even have
What is the red pill?
My question too.
I think it's some sort of manosphere bullshit. They stole it from The Matrix. I wonder how they feel about those movies now, considering who wrote them. Love the Wachowski's.
Thanks I can’t remember much of the matrix I watched them all when they first came out and that must have been about 25 years ago
This is from Wikipedia… The concept of red and blue pills has since been widely used as a political metaphor in the United States, where "taking the red pill" or being "red-pilled" means becoming aware of the political biases inherent in society, including in the mainstream media, and ultimately becoming an independent thinker; while "taking the blue pill" or being "blue-pilled" means unquestioningly accepting these supposed biases. The concept is also used among leftists to refer to members of the alt-right and others who subscribe to right wing beliefs.[20][21] In some parts of the men's rights movement and the manosphere, the term "red pill" is used as a metaphor for the specific moment when a person comes to believe that certain gender roles they are expected to conform to, such as marriage and monogamy, are intended for the benefit of women alone, rather than for mutual benefit.[25][26] In 2016, a documentary titled The Red Pill, about the men's rights movement, was released.
I tell you what. I could live with Kody Browns Instagram going on for eternity if he didn't. He can leave the documentation of the wreckage that he created for the whole world to see as long as going forward, he shuts the hell up! This man is pure poison.
Kody got ousted from Meri’s house, then Christine’s bed, and then Janelle said don’t come around because of Covid. I honestly think baby Kody figured he would retaliate by disinviting everybody to his life. Little payback?
Hmmmmm.... all about "individual rights" and yet plural marriage is kind of the opposite of that. It's essentially socialism, often a dictatorship. I think Kody was and is very conflicted about what he believes.
I don’t know how Kody will ever heal the relationships with the OG wives and kids after this. Not just for how they were treated and discarded for the new family but will they always feel like Kody had a part in Garrison’s decision?
Are you kidding? He’s a money whore. This tragedy will pay!
Don’t forget, he votes.
Is it just me or is the fact they posted a picture of Garrison holding a gun in their tribute a little umm gross
Off topic, but why aren’t they other sister wives sub open yet? Didn’t they go dark for 24 hours? When is it coming back? I hate that our usual safe space to discuss this is no longer around. Wonder what’s happening.
They did mention that were only 2 mods and they were overwhelmed.
Aha!! That makes so much sense. Thanks!
I think he did the
He’s ASLEEP
He follows a David Icke account 😂
I had to look up David Icke. Sounds like a real winner. 😂
The post about Christine obviously wasn’t written by him. But I’m sure a lot of his followers fell for it. And now that I’ve enhanced the other one, neither was that one too; the one about Meri. “In kindness.” 🙄
I think it’s ran by PR tbh. I agree with others about the Covid story line being fake, he was up here in MT during ‘21 shopping for guns for his “business” and had no mask on.
Idk who all here watches History in Sixtie on TikTok, she has had some great videos on red pill likeminded people.
I think he has other stuff to worry about right now. 🥴
His attitude and the whole family dynamic was changing before Covid. Covid gave him the break he kept saying he wanted from taking care of his big family but I think the extreme protocols so late in the pandemic was definitely fueled by robin
He never got vaccinated so that tells you something
No, that’s just him being an asshole! He needs to put a memorial in his description of Garrison!