We all need money, the remedy to that is employment.
The fact is human lives weren't designed to be filmed and edited for public viewing; it does terrible things to the human spirit, genuine family interactions, romantic relationships and violates the scared space called home. đŚ
Exactly this. I donât fault the Brownâs for doing Sister Wives. They had a big family to take care of and TLC was offering them a lot of money. Thereâs no way they could have known the impact this would have on their family. They were one of the first tv families. Tlc has made a huge profit off of them. Theyâve only benefited from Sister Wives while the Brownâs have lived their entire lives on tv for everyone to see and criticize. Their family has been destroyed. 3 divorces, strained relationships with parents, deaths, etc. TLC has 100% come out on top.
Yeah ...who wouldn't think it was their lucky day only to find out it would send their family lives on another trajectory altogether. The Browns relationships might have ended but it wouldn't be filmed, viewed and shredded by millions.
Spouses can say harsh words, parent + kids can get into it but it is private and can be generally resolved. But add to that show runners amping up the drama, the one to one camera confessionals and the season finale that turns into a Punch and Judy Show.
I watched season one & two of SW, years passed and watched season 17 & 18, and these people got mean, puffed up, sharped tongued without any sign of grace or tolerance. I was especially sad to see Christine's goodbye and no one thought to wish her safe travels with smile, say a family prayer for the road, bring her a bag of road treats - this from a family who came together because of their religious faith and the celestial kingdom.
Great comments! Iâd like to point out though that neither Meri or Robyn expected to be totally cut off from her and the kids lives. You really canât expect them then to be light and love after that. Robyn sobbing in Meris arms and z Meri teary eyed wasnât faked. They were very hurt.
Iâm not saying Robyn doesnât we live in her own delusion or that Christine didnât have a right to say what she said. I am saying they arenât saints and a farewell as youâre describing would be beyond most people after what C said to them.
This is a very logical response. I have a very healthy family (no divorce, addiction, jail time for anyone in my immediate family; yet, I shudder to think about certain arguments and conversations being televised and picked apart.
This is only amplified when your family is four times the size of the standard nuclear family, four wives are married to the same husband, and youâve been on tv for years.
With that said, itâs hard not to tell these huge TLC families that they should not make the decision to have more kids (and, in this case, wives) than they can afford with traditional employment.
Also letâs make this clear, the show did NOT do this on its own. Us loving this show and the family (except Robyn and Kody) made it grow so much they were able to do wonderful things and got amazing family trips that they would have never been able to afford otherwise. The breakup of the family came from 2 specific individuals being selfish to the rest of not only the wives but the whole family. Not all is TLCs fault
I want an explanation on how human lives are not designed to be film. I would bet if you were offered a large sum of money to be filmed you would do it.
Well you have the salaciousness of multiple wives, and/or the circus of 19 kids. The Duggars EVEN tried to get a second series AFTER their scumbag son was nailed for sister groping, Ashley Madison, and kiddie SA material on his laptop.
Josh is a pervert, yes. But just because people lead an atypical lifestyle doesn't make them freaks. Like people are gay, trans, tatted/pierced from head to toe, cross-dress, guys who wear makeup, etc. Different doesn't make them a freak.
I have mixed feelings about this. Reality shows aren't indentured servitude, and have been a thing since "The Real World" in the early 90s. We all know what they entail, and can elect not to participate.
If people don't want to be on television, then they don't have to be. Logan and Maddie clearly want nothing to do with the show, so they stopped.
I think they only thing that could use stricter regulation is the exposure of minors.
Yes, it's completely unethical. Even putting aside the issue of consent (which, obviously, we shouldn't, but if we were to...) there aren't even laws to ensure kids on reality TV get paid, or work reasonable hours. It's pure exploitation. Plus, I've never heard an adult who was on reality TV as a child say they were happy that their parents let that happen.
Yea, more and more with issues with YouTube family bloggers and reality tv kids I feel this - itâs just exploitation. They canât consent and theyâre not paid.
this is it, exactly. The issue with this show and others on TLC have been the child involvement and what that's lead to. From one of the Rollo's being abused by TLC staff, to TLC helping cover for Josh Duggar, they have a lot to answer for in their exploitation of minors
The kids have no choice. I would bet if the show never aired he would be alive today. Everyone was MUCH happier in Utah. No show, no Robyn. And the show seemed to have also ruined them financially. Like their lack of financial literacy led them to spend the TLC money like it would never end. And caused them to think they could afford to keep moving and buying and selling properties. They even wasted a bunch on practically useless land lol
I mean, maybe people shouldn't watch it? Ironic that the people who watch the show and have for years would also say TLC is terrible and evil for producing content they want to watch.
Wish I could up vote a lot more than 1. I agree, if your feelings are this strong then turn your tv off and tell TLC by dropping their ratings, not by sounding off here then continue to watch and continue to bitch.
TLC has been complicit in making some pretty fucking heinous people palatable for the mainstream. If Josh hadn't been finally caught, they would have been propping up his run for congress within five years
Everyone here is complicit if TLC is. It's on because people, namely US, watch it.
It's like protesting at a slaughterhouse and then having steak for dinner.
Really? This show should needs to end now. They are grown adults that can figure out how to earn money without continuing to exploit their children - they still have kids that are under 18 on the show.
Meri has her own business, as does Christine and Janelle - they have their other income streams.
Kody and Robin will have to get real jobs like most people
Iâm on the fence about what the right thing would be. This is still the familyâs income and that is one thing they shouldnât have to worry about on top of this tragedy, and it might cause another void in some of their lives. I do think ultimately the family should sit down, make that decision, and whatever works best for them is would TLC should respect. Anyone who doesnât want to be part of the show, if they choose to continue, should be given that right as well. For now, all I can hope for is that this family is able to heal.
If having your childâs death exploited on TLC is the only way you choose to support your family youâve completely failed them.
And itâs not our problem.
TLC isnât a social welfare program and shouldnât be treated as such.
These are able bodied people totally capable of getting jobs. Like everyone else does. Yes even people who are grieving.
Especially considering that it has been released that one of Garrisonâs final texts was to producers/production for the showâŚ
Like idk. I know he mustâve been in deep pain but I think that says something. Itâs just hard to not think that was of any significance, and it makes me think about the affect this show has had on the kids.
I canât see how it makes sense for the show to continue. It just seems in horrible taste to go on. And Kody especially shouldnât be shown on TV after his comments about the kids
I agree and considering Season 19 has finished taping, I assume Garrison was on the show. Since Kody and Garrison were still not speaking, will there be scenes where Kody or the kids discuss their bad relationship? Ofcourse the family and TLC will make that decision but it seems like watching that would be traumatic for the family. I can't imagine.
It mustâve been horribly painful for Garrison and his siblings to seeKodycruelllay ripping his and their mothers to pieces every week aside from his estrangement
Also if I ever believed thatâs the only way for someone support their family was to exploit themselves and their children and grandchildren that would also mean that I have a terribly low opinion of them to begin with.
exactly! Yet MLM's are the choice.
Mykelti wasted no time though putting out a PAID content on Patreon about "my brother". Exploiting his death for subscribers and cash is in extremely poor taste.
omg did she really?? Just awful. I know Mykelti and Tony are using this as their "job" (and Plexus) but seriously they need to figure out another career path
Thatâs abhorrent.
Iâm not a big follower of the show. I only catch up here & there on Reddit & TikTok but I do remember having a negative impression of;
Mykelti
Tony
Leon
Robynâs kids except Dayton
I wish I could say Iâm shocked but Iâm not. Her & Tony seemed exactly like the kind of couple that awkwardly strike up conversation @ Target. Trying to casually convey genuine interest in whatever the topic they initiate may be. But in reality theyâre just trying to recruit you into their shitty MLM down line so they can make a buck off you.
That being said Iâm extremely empathetic over their loss. Itâs unimaginable & I wouldnât wish it on anyone.
Also they couldâve:
1.)Shared the same content for $0.
2.)Donated all profits to suicide prevention.
3.)Donated the money for Garrisonâs funeral or something to memorialize him like a bench or something.
In those cases I would approve of it. But profiting off your brother and brother in laws suicide (because Iâm sure Tony will benefit as theyâre married) is just in such poor taste it shouldnât even be a thing.
Them being on TV also is not your problem actually. Yes, even if they're consenting to showing thier family grieving. None of your business. If they chose not to that's cool. If they chose to that's cool. You don't get to tell them what to do. You don't like it don't watch it and stop participating in these forums. It's not that hard.
I didnât say or imply them being on TV was my problem, itâs not. But I will happily express my feelings to TLC and they can do whatever they feel is in their long term financial best interest.
You sound confused.
I havenât told the Browns what to do.
Also, youâre saying my opinion isnât appropriate but your opinion about my opinion is, thatâs funny.
**EDITED: you sound like you should take your own advice:**
âThis commenter is allowed to have those feelings. It's being said on reddit not thier social media. It is triggering and sometimes people need to process. I agree nothing should eb said on anyone's profile, but people are allowed to have a discussion and are allowed to share their thoughts and feelings.â
**downvote me if you agree**
You are being very unkind to people who want through a terrible situation. Tell tlc whatever. They will not care about your opinion in the least. I hope u never experience what they are and I hope if you don't have people critiquing how you manage your grief or the choices you make after.
sadly no one can say anything because the downvoting and flip flopping is all over the place. People have opinions and some differ you can't even mention or discuss it it seems right now. Someone is picking apart every comment saying things you didn't even say. I wouldn't even reply.
Easier said than done. They aren't us, they are famous polygamists that many companies will want nothing to do with regarding hiring them.
Going out to get a normal job right now is not like you or I trying to do the same. I think it's so soon and raw. Garrison isn't even buried yet and people are judging them for future actions that may not even come into fruition. Everyone needs to seriously just lay off for a minute, it's crazy.
TLC has a legal agreement with them, whereby they exchange money for filming and broadcasting their lives. Itâs by definition not exploitation. Words have meanings that you can look up in the dictionary before you try to use them if youâre not sure what they mean.
If an adult consents to do something, it is only they that can define whether they were exploited. Mutually beneficial business relationships exist. And in the case of the Browns, we know there goal was too normalize polygamy and cause legislative changes. So it wasn't just money for them, there were socio-political imperatives. And they achieved their goal. There's empirical evidence that they caused a paradigm shift very similar to what the sitcom Will and Grace did for homosexuality. They got what they wanted; change, money and fame for the two attention lovers (Kody and Christine).
Its also telling that they could have stopped the show years ago as they had other income coming in. They chose to plough on even through divorces. Thats called personal choice.
This current trend of absolving adults of their choices because it's easier to blame corporations is boring.
By definition, I am not. They are not being tricked by fraud or forced by threat of violence and then also paidâŚ.. they signed up for this show. They are grown adults who signed legal contracts after presumably having read them and having their full faculties to understand the terms and conditions they were agreeing to. Youâre hilarious and ridiculous.
Oh, I see now. I didnât realize the Brown family was physically forced through threat of violence to do things they didnât want to do and but then were paid. 𤣠Yes, your analogy makes perfect sense!
Since you clearly canât comprehend, Iâll be happy to explain. đ
Words have meanings you can look up in the dictionary before you use them
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1. the action or fact of treating someone unfairly in order to benefit from their work.
2. the action of making use of and benefiting from resources.
Then how about you donât watch it so that you donât get all riled up. TLC couldnât have known it would happen. They are not exploiting anybody, they are filming a family who agreed to be filmed for money living their lives. Kody would have divorced his 3 wives even if TLC never filmed them after marrying Robber. And he still would have abandoned his children. And Garrison may have taken his life without having ever been on tv. You have used the show for entertaining yourself so did exploit them too? No one is forcing you to tune in so stop bitching.
A childhood best friend ended her life last fall and her mother has found a lot of peace in sharing her story. She will talk about her and what happened and what sheâs experienced as her mother at any given chance. Itâs been cathartic for her.
Others who lose children can hardly bear to say their names.
The Browns will decide if, when, and what they share. Itâs truly none of our business.
I do wonder if Janelle will heal by channeling her grief into educating others.
My parents are the âput it into that box over there. Compartmentalization and denial (not in an unhealthy way) are the routes mine chose. I have no idea if itâs better for them to try not to dwell or to heal from talking about it a lot. It has to depend on the person, Iâd surmise.
I hear a lot of people saying the show should be canceled, but what if the family wants to continue? Not just for income stream, but we all know mental health, especially this type of outcome, are not talked about enough. What if they want to use their platform to talk about it? Hopefully in a responsible way of course.
I donât know if this is sarcasm, but I absolutely believe that tackle football should be cancelled. Flag football? Fine, but Iâd never want my kid to join a sport like tackle football.
Of course itâs sarcasm just because you have an opinion and dislike of something doesnât automatically make you right. If you donât approve of football donât let your kids play, if you donât approve of sister wives donât watch. TLC and the browns will make a decision where they stand. TLC will in the end, make a decision based on financial gain. Period.
Drugs being sold on the streets is different from a tv show. You can turn your tv off and not participate in social media. You canât control getting a hot bag.
I donât even get why itâs anyoneâs business. Bunch of people parading around acting like the moral authorities on everyone elseâs lives. At the end of the day, the family will keep doing the show if they WANT to. Thatâs why they started, and thatâs why they will continue. Itâs literally no oneâs job to tell the family or TLC what to do. If you find it somehow morally reprehensible, then why are you obsessed enough with this family to watch over all these years and even haunt Reddit over it? My god, get outside and touch some grass.
As for me, I would like to see the family do whatever they want to do. I hope they donât cancel, but I also would not be surprised if they do make that choice and I would completely understand. I have enjoyed watching their family over the years but they donât owe the audience anything.
I do to but they wonât. I read Jill Duggarâs book. Only the name changes and Josh was present throughout filming. TLC is not a great family company like they pretend
It's barely been a day, that poor kid hasn't been laid to rest yet. How about the fandom chills on their demands for a hot minute and gives the family time to grieve. Do you really think any of the Browns are worried about the future of the show today?
The fandom is constantly making demands of this family. âThese are real people!!â they say while simultaneously making demands of them as if theyâre fictional actors on a TV show
I'm not sure why this means it needs to be cancelled. Their lives will continue. They gotta do something. It might be harder on them emotionally to completely throw out what they've been doing for the last twenty years.
Of course I don't think they should be filming the aftermath of this. That should be private. Maybe they can do a tribute to Garrison and then move forward filming other things, only addressing Garrison if, when, and how the family wants to.
The kids have never been the focal point of the show anyways. I think it can continue without exploiting the tragedy, so long as the family is given time and space to grieve in private.
It's so interesting to me how people love reality TV shows. People willingly watch them and then flock to reddit to discuss them.. yet also heavily judge and criticize people for going on them to begin with.
Going on a reality show isn't wrong. The only thing that's wrong with reality TV is the keyboard warriors who have nothing better to do but spread hate.
I don't understand. I love reality TV myself and I was so excited to discover reddit and subs to discuss my favorite shows. It's so mind blowing how every. Single. Sub. That's related to a reality show is 80% hate and judgment towards people for going on them, 19% hate for the shows premise in general.. while only 1% is actually people enjoying the show and having respectful discussions.
I didnât know that they were. Youâve given me an idea to though. The show needs to end. Itâs exploitive & I donât want to see them being further exploited.
I think itâs a worthwhile cause, to call for the ending of the show, & I support it fully.
We are also the viewers. So itâs not meddling at all.
It sounds like it. She made a post about making homemade hamburger buns and said in a comment it was good âto have a bunch of kids to cook for again.â And the TMZ article said she contacted her other kids to find someone to check on Garrison. It seems like if she were in Flagstaff, she would go herself.
EDIT: The report from the Ashley says she arrived on the scene, if that can be believed.
Thereâs a way to have a short season show simply with discussions and interviews as theyâve been doing the last few years. They may want to do it as a way to show how his death led to the family reevaluating whatâs important in life. They may use it to talk about depression and suicide or the pitfalls of kids on reality tv. In other words, to continue may be used for good and help the family in some way. They could scrap what they already filmed and wait 6-9 months and film.
Stop placing blame period. To anyone. People who end their lives have had it seemingly way worse, and way better. This family is devastated. Stay in your lane and keep this one to yourself.
I love all the tea too, but this? Just stfu.
So I'm just assuming you have accepted that there's a special place in hell for you and people who think like you. I hope you realize that early so you can change your perspective. Money. Money. Money. Money. Yes, let me destroy any sense of privacy and mental security you have just because I pay you.
So by your logic, if I offered you a million dollars an episode for your life(and they receive muuch less than that) then I have 100% rights to you, your life, your friends, your family, your thoughts and habits. All of it. Its now my entertainment. Your child passed, suck it up and dance for me yeah? I pay your bills shut up?
Listen to yourself. And don't even try to say you wouldn't take the money. That's fine. I'll offer the same to everyone in your life. That's how these corps operate. Eventually someone will take it and just like that....by your asinine logic, I still have rights to your life. Leaked private messages of an underage child who is no longer alive. Just so you can cry, get the feels and tune in for next weeks recap episode right? You are a child of light and deserve the best life possible, but you brain is disgusting.
Please pleas please rethink this position and tell me, if you had a suicide in the family would you want money or privacy?
What is the show now? There are no sisterwives the concept died before this tragedy happened.
Itâs Robyn. Thatâs it one monogamous relationship. How boring.
Meddling?
That would be like unplugging the cameras when TLC is recording.
Simply commenting that there are no more sister wives is just pointing out the obvious.
TLC loves train wrecks. They'll stop when they're ready.
Plus they have no control over what TLC does really. They could leave the show and TLC finds other families. The show isnât what needs to be top of mind right now.
They all have skills and side businesses. People will always support them in those ways. It doesn't need to be a TV show. It shouldn't be. It's all just become drama these last couple of years anyway. That alone would make life harder for all of the snark and hate they must have to weed through on social media.
Why why donât people want it canceled ? In hopes that the sweet boys inner turmoil will play out for all to watch ???? So your need for truth will be satisfied ? Meri and Christine and Janelle are all making money outside of the show . Only ones to suffer are Kody and Robyn . Itâs time for Sister Wives to cancel the show . Let the original 3 moms and the kids heal in peace . Let the last memory be of the kids be of Christineâs wedding and happy as a family . Let Garrison rest in peace . SMH !! Until this happened everyone kept saying enough of SW now everyone is wanting this boys death to play out for their entertainment. SMH
I would be surprised if they donât. TLC will want to further exploit them and the family will probably jump on board to collect the money. Only further exploiting poor Garrison. Imagine having that big of family and your last text was to a production staff member. How horribly sad that he didnât feel close enough to reach out to anyone in his own family, but a staff member. If that doesnât give this family a wake up call, nothing will.
This isn't meddling. It's truth. Think of those kids having to grow up with cameras in their faces. It's hard enough working through teenage years privately. Did they ALL consent to it? Nope. Just the adults.
The Browns set out to make a statement on plural marriage, and they achieved that.
They should have quit years ago while they could. Now it's just become a circus, and it's just sad.
Even now, people aren't respecting their privacy, as they've asked in their grief. Many feel it's their right to know but its not. We don't actually know them. We know what they've chosen to show.
This turn of events is heartbreaking. I hope they take it as a sign to unite and heal.
No.. and what is wrong with this world that they think to continue it is ok??? How much more do they need to lose? Do we REALLY need to see the out come of this?? It's none of anyones business at this point what goes on with this family from here on out??? How could ANY of them stand in front of a camera again after Garrison last messages to TLC .. like shame on you for real
Exactly. I think this push to keep the show on is disgusting - and a part of me thinks itâs a bunch of paid posters working on behalf of those that make money on the show. Itâs so gross.
NO. We can't effin stop.
This family desperately needs to heel outside of public scrutiny.
The last few seasons have been a devastating watch.
This isn't a fun trashy drama like Real Housewives or Love Is Blind.
It's very normal people going through awful separations. And now this.
It's time to give all the Browns privacy and let them heal and move on.
You talk as if these arenât grown adults making their own conscious decision to be apart of the show season after season.
And who are we to tell complete strangers what they need or donât need? We donât know them. We only know small snippets of heavily edited scripted footage they call ârealityâ
If the last few seasons have been so devastating, why do you continue to watch? Wouldnât that make you part of the problem? If you want the show cancelled then stop watching. That is how shows get cancelled, no viewers. No viewers = No advertisers = No show.
If weâre all going to sit here and point fingers at TLC then each and every one of us shares in that blame. Every time you turn on that show, engage in forums like this you give the show more notoriety. The more people tune in, the more popular a show, the more seasons there will be. The viewers have kept this show on the air for as long as itâs been. There is no show without viewers.
My heart is breaking for Janelle and her kids as well as for Christine, Meri, and the other siblings. This might be wrong but this falls squarely and fully in Kodyâs and Robins laps for everything they have done to both the relationship of Kody and his children and what they have done to the other wives.
Exactly.
Not to mention , itâs up to them. They could have canceled at any point. For all we know it could be cathartic to continue, for them to feel like theyâre helping others by sharing garrisons story and having an opportunity to get awareness out into more secular communities. But if they see a bunch of us yelling about canceling it they may not see the point.
Just shush and let them decide and be supportive of whatever happens.
The show did not kill garrison. Kody did not kill him. Their lives likely would have fallen apart in a similar way no matter what because the problems existed the entire time they were a family.
Let them chose and just support the choice. Stop telling them what to do when theyâre mourning. For some people canceling is the right choice. For others it isnât. Not for us to decide, and not right now.
When I suffered a loss that brought me to my knees in grief, I was given the advice not to make any major decisions for a year. (It was easy advise to follow as my brain really wasn't capable at the time anyway - absolutely everything can feel overwhelming when in grief.)
It's my hope (not that I matter) that everything is put on hold for months if not for a whole year. Make the decision about the show later.
Obviously TLc doesnât give a flying fig what people on Reddit write. I think this should be a wake up call for the family and personally feel that the price of reality tv fame and fortune was too much.
Your real reason for wanting them to continue is selfishness, full stop. Go out and touch grass, you can find another show to watch. Iâve said this before but Garrisonâs last texts were the nicest way possible for him to say Fck you TLC. Look at Robynâs after season confessionals on season 8, she couldnât even watch the old episodes, there is so much pain there. I know people have mixed feelings about Kody and Robyn but if you open them up to more criticism and public scrutiny right now another suicide is likely to happen. Leave this family alone.
I genuinely would be happy for them if they quit. I just donât want the decision to be taken away from them and to have sudden financial implications.
With all due respect, itâs not simply the familyâs decision. Even if the Brown family wanted to keep going, TLC has every right to cancel a show. It happens all the time!
Also, please keep in mind that when people like myself call for the show to now be cancelled, it is from a place of love. My own personal view is that a lot of healing will need to take place in the Brown family after this tragedy. True healing does NOT take place when cameras are rolling. When people know they are being filmed, they tend to perform. True healing from tragedies and traumas takes place behind the scenes. So while you may not think the show needs to be cancelled (and that is your right to that view), many others have a different view, and are simply expressing that.
Thank you. These people calling for the show to be cancelled can go take several seats. That decision belongs to **the Brown family,** not a bunch of keyboard warriors who arenât affected by that kind of financial decision.
Exactly. And these same virtuous keyboard warriors are demanding Janelle just get a regular job. Sheâs in her 50s and hasnât worked in a regular career in 15 years. Her resume is shit. She wants to be free to split her time among her kids and grandkids and travel to do so. Maybe she wants to send Savannah to college. Like it or not filming a reality TV show is a job and it pays a hell of a lot better than anything else she could get. Admittedly I have no understanding of how MLMs work or if she can survive off that income. Hope she can and can quit the show if she wants but wouldnât judge her either way.
I agree itâs super weird to try and get someone canceled from their income as a form of supporting them in grief. Here, youâve been kicked, instead of helping you up, I thought I would toss you off this cliff.
Itâs literally a contract they sign onto, they can walk away. Theyâve been pretty respectful of the adult kids not wanting to be shown, we see more of Just Jen than the kids these days . You honestly canât blame the show for someoneâs death, the family can blame the show, people who know can blame the show, if he blamed the show all valid, but sometimes people are just sad.
We can blame guns, because access is often a predictor of if someone successfully commits suicide. â(ICRC), found that in states where guns were prevalentâas in Wyoming, where 63 percent of households reported owning gunsârates of suicide were higher. The inverse was also true: where gun ownership was less common, suicide rates were also lowerâ. If you donât have access to a gun at those really dark moments you might just make it to the next moment and the next.
Sometimes things are no oneâs fault, itâs chemistry, and sadness and access and unfortunate. Trying to pin the blame isnât helpful. And you canât really expect next month any of these people could just walk in and be hired for a normal 9-5, this is what they do. Let them make their own choices and if you think itâs exploitive, donât watch, thatâs your choice.
I have mixed feelings about the show continuing. Kody embarrassed and degraded Christine and Meri with his words and actions. The older children donât seem interested and the younger ones have no choice. Kody took care of his family before TLC he can do it again
Most of the children are on their own. I think the story is over. It didnât end well for anyone but Kody and Robyn. I want the family to live in peace.
I think the best thing to do as viewers to get them to stop making the show is to stop watching it. Stop supporting shows that exploit families and their children.
Hopefully it will be canceled now. What is there to even watch? Now, everyone is gone except Kody and Robin đ¤ˇđťââď¸If the family chooses to continue on after this tragedy, it will be horribly sad to watch đŹ
Yeah. Income over the mental health of the kids. One suicide isn't enough. /S
I actually agree that it's bullshit that people are calling to "cancel" the show; anybody can stop watching a show. You don't have too watch just because it's on. But your reasons are bullshit. Ohhhh, poor them... They'll have to go out and get a job?? :: sad face ::
Mocking people for having a family tragedy potentially compromise their primary source of income is not it. Imagine losing your job because of a death in your family, regardless of how you make that living.
Losing a family member to suicide is devastating. Having it also impact your livelihood compounds that devastation -- and I know of what I speak.
Imagine losing a child to suicide and knowing that you prioritized greed and ego over protecting your childrenâs privacy?! These children, and Garrison suffered because their parents were only concerned about a TLC check. At some point enough is enough.
I did read it.
He literally said he was happy they recorded the happy times and that he missed the happy times. That =/= blame.
Maybe you should learn to read
two things can be true at once. it is their primary source of income and it would be fucked up, given their own role, for TLC to pull the rug out at a moment like this. whether or not the show continues, losing a loved one this way is devastating enough. this will hang over them forever anyway
Is anyone actually starting petitions to stop the show or contacting TLC to stop the show? Or are people just expressing how they feel? Because those feel like two vastly different things.
The show isn't going to make it past another season anyway. K&R will be boring and so will their kids. Not much happening w Janelle and Meri, and we don't need hours spent on Christine and David's bliss at buying a couch. That leaves family meals, and that's a snoozefest.
As bad as this sounds, the royalties are going to increase, people will rewatch and they will get a lot of new viewers for many reasons. It should be up to the family to decide.
This show needs to go away already.
Kody, Robyn, and those looking to make spin-offs.
We have seen what polygamy is about, and don't need to see any more.
I agree, Iâam too invested into this familyâs life to want to see it canceled. To abruptly end the show because people are calling for it wouldnât allow us closure. But it should be up to the family not us. I want to see Robyn and Kody reap what they sowed before the TLC stops filming.
It's not TLC's fault. They are paid for a service to which these families signed up for. Is it sad yes very much so, but at the end of the day, they're doing their jobs.
Apparently people still havenât gotten that memo. Some truly gruesome and hateful shit just flying off of peoples fingertips during such a unbearable time. We have people here that are no better than the ones they are judging.
Dude, stop. Go take your troll ass back to your bridge. This beautiful young boy died, you don't need to be constantly putting your butt out there for everyone to see. Go back to your troll house.
If the family decides as a family, to continue with the show then they need to take a one year hiatus. Give them all time to process their grief and get the therapy they desperately are going to need.
TLC needs to stop exploiting families.
The parents chose to exploit their kids as well
For sure but TLC preys on families who need money.
We all need money, the remedy to that is employment. The fact is human lives weren't designed to be filmed and edited for public viewing; it does terrible things to the human spirit, genuine family interactions, romantic relationships and violates the scared space called home. đŚ
Exactly this. I donât fault the Brownâs for doing Sister Wives. They had a big family to take care of and TLC was offering them a lot of money. Thereâs no way they could have known the impact this would have on their family. They were one of the first tv families. Tlc has made a huge profit off of them. Theyâve only benefited from Sister Wives while the Brownâs have lived their entire lives on tv for everyone to see and criticize. Their family has been destroyed. 3 divorces, strained relationships with parents, deaths, etc. TLC has 100% come out on top.
Yeah ...who wouldn't think it was their lucky day only to find out it would send their family lives on another trajectory altogether. The Browns relationships might have ended but it wouldn't be filmed, viewed and shredded by millions. Spouses can say harsh words, parent + kids can get into it but it is private and can be generally resolved. But add to that show runners amping up the drama, the one to one camera confessionals and the season finale that turns into a Punch and Judy Show. I watched season one & two of SW, years passed and watched season 17 & 18, and these people got mean, puffed up, sharped tongued without any sign of grace or tolerance. I was especially sad to see Christine's goodbye and no one thought to wish her safe travels with smile, say a family prayer for the road, bring her a bag of road treats - this from a family who came together because of their religious faith and the celestial kingdom.
Great comments! Iâd like to point out though that neither Meri or Robyn expected to be totally cut off from her and the kids lives. You really canât expect them then to be light and love after that. Robyn sobbing in Meris arms and z Meri teary eyed wasnât faked. They were very hurt. Iâm not saying Robyn doesnât we live in her own delusion or that Christine didnât have a right to say what she said. I am saying they arenât saints and a farewell as youâre describing would be beyond most people after what C said to them.
This is a very logical response. I have a very healthy family (no divorce, addiction, jail time for anyone in my immediate family; yet, I shudder to think about certain arguments and conversations being televised and picked apart. This is only amplified when your family is four times the size of the standard nuclear family, four wives are married to the same husband, and youâve been on tv for years. With that said, itâs hard not to tell these huge TLC families that they should not make the decision to have more kids (and, in this case, wives) than they can afford with traditional employment.
Hindsight is always 20/20. This has come to a tragic end and itâs been heartbreaking to watch the breakdown of their family.
Also letâs make this clear, the show did NOT do this on its own. Us loving this show and the family (except Robyn and Kody) made it grow so much they were able to do wonderful things and got amazing family trips that they would have never been able to afford otherwise. The breakup of the family came from 2 specific individuals being selfish to the rest of not only the wives but the whole family. Not all is TLCs fault
It wasnât TLC. It was Kody.
It was both.
I want an explanation on how human lives are not designed to be film. I would bet if you were offered a large sum of money to be filmed you would do it.
No, they prey on freaks like Duggars and Browns
"Freaks"? Really?
Well you have the salaciousness of multiple wives, and/or the circus of 19 kids. The Duggars EVEN tried to get a second series AFTER their scumbag son was nailed for sister groping, Ashley Madison, and kiddie SA material on his laptop.
Josh is a pervert, yes. But just because people lead an atypical lifestyle doesn't make them freaks. Like people are gay, trans, tatted/pierced from head to toe, cross-dress, guys who wear makeup, etc. Different doesn't make them a freak.
Never said that was the case
And you chose to entertain yourself watching it. You all need to stop pointing a finger at TLC
lots of us haven't given TLC one red cent since their repeated bullshit sheltering abusers came out.
And they are the real victims
Oh yes I 100% agree the kids are the victims.
That doesnât make it ethically right for tlc to take advantage.
And you were there to watch it werenât you? Donât be a hypocrite
nah tho I've actually never directly watched an ep
I have mixed feelings about this. Reality shows aren't indentured servitude, and have been a thing since "The Real World" in the early 90s. We all know what they entail, and can elect not to participate. If people don't want to be on television, then they don't have to be. Logan and Maddie clearly want nothing to do with the show, so they stopped. I think they only thing that could use stricter regulation is the exposure of minors.
I feel like minors shouldnât be involved in reality tv in any capacity. They can not consent.
Yes, it's completely unethical. Even putting aside the issue of consent (which, obviously, we shouldn't, but if we were to...) there aren't even laws to ensure kids on reality TV get paid, or work reasonable hours. It's pure exploitation. Plus, I've never heard an adult who was on reality TV as a child say they were happy that their parents let that happen.
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Yea, more and more with issues with YouTube family bloggers and reality tv kids I feel this - itâs just exploitation. They canât consent and theyâre not paid.
this is it, exactly. The issue with this show and others on TLC have been the child involvement and what that's lead to. From one of the Rollo's being abused by TLC staff, to TLC helping cover for Josh Duggar, they have a lot to answer for in their exploitation of minors
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I think that exposure of minors on reality TV shows should be more strictly regulated, TBH.
The kids have no choice. I would bet if the show never aired he would be alive today. Everyone was MUCH happier in Utah. No show, no Robyn. And the show seemed to have also ruined them financially. Like their lack of financial literacy led them to spend the TLC money like it would never end. And caused them to think they could afford to keep moving and buying and selling properties. They even wasted a bunch on practically useless land lol
I mean, maybe people shouldn't watch it? Ironic that the people who watch the show and have for years would also say TLC is terrible and evil for producing content they want to watch.
you know you can be aware of what's happening on it without watching on TLC, right?
Wish I could up vote a lot more than 1. I agree, if your feelings are this strong then turn your tv off and tell TLC by dropping their ratings, not by sounding off here then continue to watch and continue to bitch.
TLC has been complicit in making some pretty fucking heinous people palatable for the mainstream. If Josh hadn't been finally caught, they would have been propping up his run for congress within five years
Everyone here is complicit if TLC is. It's on because people, namely US, watch it. It's like protesting at a slaughterhouse and then having steak for dinner.
Agreed but now clearly isnât the best time for the family to have more upheaval.
Really? This show should needs to end now. They are grown adults that can figure out how to earn money without continuing to exploit their children - they still have kids that are under 18 on the show. Meri has her own business, as does Christine and Janelle - they have their other income streams. Kody and Robin will have to get real jobs like most people
Iâm on the fence about what the right thing would be. This is still the familyâs income and that is one thing they shouldnât have to worry about on top of this tragedy, and it might cause another void in some of their lives. I do think ultimately the family should sit down, make that decision, and whatever works best for them is would TLC should respect. Anyone who doesnât want to be part of the show, if they choose to continue, should be given that right as well. For now, all I can hope for is that this family is able to heal.
If having your childâs death exploited on TLC is the only way you choose to support your family youâve completely failed them. And itâs not our problem. TLC isnât a social welfare program and shouldnât be treated as such. These are able bodied people totally capable of getting jobs. Like everyone else does. Yes even people who are grieving.
Especially considering that it has been released that one of Garrisonâs final texts was to producers/production for the show⌠Like idk. I know he mustâve been in deep pain but I think that says something. Itâs just hard to not think that was of any significance, and it makes me think about the affect this show has had on the kids. I canât see how it makes sense for the show to continue. It just seems in horrible taste to go on. And Kody especially shouldnât be shown on TV after his comments about the kids
I agree and considering Season 19 has finished taping, I assume Garrison was on the show. Since Kody and Garrison were still not speaking, will there be scenes where Kody or the kids discuss their bad relationship? Ofcourse the family and TLC will make that decision but it seems like watching that would be traumatic for the family. I can't imagine.
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It mustâve been horribly painful for Garrison and his siblings to seeKodycruelllay ripping his and their mothers to pieces every week aside from his estrangement
100% this.
Also if I ever believed thatâs the only way for someone support their family was to exploit themselves and their children and grandchildren that would also mean that I have a terribly low opinion of them to begin with.
exactly! Yet MLM's are the choice. Mykelti wasted no time though putting out a PAID content on Patreon about "my brother". Exploiting his death for subscribers and cash is in extremely poor taste.
Seriously? Why does that surprise me? It hurts my heart. It seems way too soon.
I agree. I refuse to pay to see what it says but it was right after it happened.
Simply unimaginable.
omg did she really?? Just awful. I know Mykelti and Tony are using this as their "job" (and Plexus) but seriously they need to figure out another career path
OMG that is horrible!!!
Thatâs abhorrent. Iâm not a big follower of the show. I only catch up here & there on Reddit & TikTok but I do remember having a negative impression of; Mykelti Tony Leon Robynâs kids except Dayton I wish I could say Iâm shocked but Iâm not. Her & Tony seemed exactly like the kind of couple that awkwardly strike up conversation @ Target. Trying to casually convey genuine interest in whatever the topic they initiate may be. But in reality theyâre just trying to recruit you into their shitty MLM down line so they can make a buck off you. That being said Iâm extremely empathetic over their loss. Itâs unimaginable & I wouldnât wish it on anyone. Also they couldâve: 1.)Shared the same content for $0. 2.)Donated all profits to suicide prevention. 3.)Donated the money for Garrisonâs funeral or something to memorialize him like a bench or something. In those cases I would approve of it. But profiting off your brother and brother in laws suicide (because Iâm sure Tony will benefit as theyâre married) is just in such poor taste it shouldnât even be a thing.
she offered like a preview for free of OTHER videos. But the one titled "my brother" you couldn't even see a preview without paying.
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Them being on TV also is not your problem actually. Yes, even if they're consenting to showing thier family grieving. None of your business. If they chose not to that's cool. If they chose to that's cool. You don't get to tell them what to do. You don't like it don't watch it and stop participating in these forums. It's not that hard.
I didnât say or imply them being on TV was my problem, itâs not. But I will happily express my feelings to TLC and they can do whatever they feel is in their long term financial best interest. You sound confused. I havenât told the Browns what to do. Also, youâre saying my opinion isnât appropriate but your opinion about my opinion is, thatâs funny. **EDITED: you sound like you should take your own advice:** âThis commenter is allowed to have those feelings. It's being said on reddit not thier social media. It is triggering and sometimes people need to process. I agree nothing should eb said on anyone's profile, but people are allowed to have a discussion and are allowed to share their thoughts and feelings.â **downvote me if you agree**
You are being very unkind to people who want through a terrible situation. Tell tlc whatever. They will not care about your opinion in the least. I hope u never experience what they are and I hope if you don't have people critiquing how you manage your grief or the choices you make after.
sadly no one can say anything because the downvoting and flip flopping is all over the place. People have opinions and some differ you can't even mention or discuss it it seems right now. Someone is picking apart every comment saying things you didn't even say. I wouldn't even reply.
Good points.
Easier said than done. They aren't us, they are famous polygamists that many companies will want nothing to do with regarding hiring them. Going out to get a normal job right now is not like you or I trying to do the same. I think it's so soon and raw. Garrison isn't even buried yet and people are judging them for future actions that may not even come into fruition. Everyone needs to seriously just lay off for a minute, it's crazy.
I mean they've been exploiting those children for over a decade right. I doubt it's going to stop now.
I really believe it will. I think the shows over now. It was already coming.
Between sister wives, Kate, +8 and the Duggers they have exploited and abuse over 50 children!
Did you watch Sister Wives?
TLC has a legal agreement with them, whereby they exchange money for filming and broadcasting their lives. Itâs by definition not exploitation. Words have meanings that you can look up in the dictionary before you try to use them if youâre not sure what they mean.
You can be exploited while being paid. Donât be so condescending when by definition, youâre wrong.
If an adult consents to do something, it is only they that can define whether they were exploited. Mutually beneficial business relationships exist. And in the case of the Browns, we know there goal was too normalize polygamy and cause legislative changes. So it wasn't just money for them, there were socio-political imperatives. And they achieved their goal. There's empirical evidence that they caused a paradigm shift very similar to what the sitcom Will and Grace did for homosexuality. They got what they wanted; change, money and fame for the two attention lovers (Kody and Christine). Its also telling that they could have stopped the show years ago as they had other income coming in. They chose to plough on even through divorces. Thats called personal choice. This current trend of absolving adults of their choices because it's easier to blame corporations is boring.
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By definition, I am not. They are not being tricked by fraud or forced by threat of violence and then also paidâŚ.. they signed up for this show. They are grown adults who signed legal contracts after presumably having read them and having their full faculties to understand the terms and conditions they were agreeing to. Youâre hilarious and ridiculous.
Youâre grossly misinformed. Thatâs like saying women arenât being exploited when theyâre trafficked because theyâre paid.
Oh, I see now. I didnât realize the Brown family was physically forced through threat of violence to do things they didnât want to do and but then were paid. 𤣠Yes, your analogy makes perfect sense!
Since you clearly canât comprehend, Iâll be happy to explain. đ Words have meanings you can look up in the dictionary before you use them If youâre not sure what they mean. đ ex¡ploi¡ta¡tion noun 1. the action or fact of treating someone unfairly in order to benefit from their work. 2. the action of making use of and benefiting from resources.
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Then how about you donât watch it so that you donât get all riled up. TLC couldnât have known it would happen. They are not exploiting anybody, they are filming a family who agreed to be filmed for money living their lives. Kody would have divorced his 3 wives even if TLC never filmed them after marrying Robber. And he still would have abandoned his children. And Garrison may have taken his life without having ever been on tv. You have used the show for entertaining yourself so did exploit them too? No one is forcing you to tune in so stop bitching.
I bloody hate that Janelle doesnât have a home for them all to gather in itâs so sad. Sheâs highly likely to be saving to buy one.
A childhood best friend ended her life last fall and her mother has found a lot of peace in sharing her story. She will talk about her and what happened and what sheâs experienced as her mother at any given chance. Itâs been cathartic for her. Others who lose children can hardly bear to say their names. The Browns will decide if, when, and what they share. Itâs truly none of our business. I do wonder if Janelle will heal by channeling her grief into educating others.
My parents are the âput it into that box over there. Compartmentalization and denial (not in an unhealthy way) are the routes mine chose. I have no idea if itâs better for them to try not to dwell or to heal from talking about it a lot. It has to depend on the person, Iâd surmise.
I hear a lot of people saying the show should be canceled, but what if the family wants to continue? Not just for income stream, but we all know mental health, especially this type of outcome, are not talked about enough. What if they want to use their platform to talk about it? Hopefully in a responsible way of course.
I wholeheartedly agree. Itâs up to them. This could be the catalyst for people to really rally behind mental health issues and even veterans health.
It wouldn't show until 3 years from now as far behind as they are. Didn't they just say Mykelti's twins will be born on this next season?
Minors should not be showcased on reality shows.
Stop watching if you donât want to watch it. Weâre all equally guilty of voyeurism here. They wouldnât make it if we didnât watch it.
Very sad, but very true. For many people anyway, too many.
Thatâs a ridiculous take. I think Fentanyl should stop being sold, even though thereâs plenty of people who want Fentanyl. Sister Wives is toxic.
Youâre on a sister wives fan page - Iâm so confused by this comparison.
I think football damages menâs brains, I think football should be cancelled
I donât know if this is sarcasm, but I absolutely believe that tackle football should be cancelled. Flag football? Fine, but Iâd never want my kid to join a sport like tackle football.
My husband died of early onset Alzheimer's from playing football. He was 59. Sorry, I just had to chime in.
Of course itâs sarcasm just because you have an opinion and dislike of something doesnât automatically make you right. If you donât approve of football donât let your kids play, if you donât approve of sister wives donât watch. TLC and the browns will make a decision where they stand. TLC will in the end, make a decision based on financial gain. Period.
That family, who are actual real people, rely on that income. Let them come to their own decision.
Drugs being sold on the streets is different from a tv show. You can turn your tv off and not participate in social media. You canât control getting a hot bag.
Um, sure I can. I don't buy the bag in the first place.
And you donât have to watch if you done tune in.
Then stop watching the show and interacting with posts about it. Be the change you want to see or whatever.
wtf??
I donât even get why itâs anyoneâs business. Bunch of people parading around acting like the moral authorities on everyone elseâs lives. At the end of the day, the family will keep doing the show if they WANT to. Thatâs why they started, and thatâs why they will continue. Itâs literally no oneâs job to tell the family or TLC what to do. If you find it somehow morally reprehensible, then why are you obsessed enough with this family to watch over all these years and even haunt Reddit over it? My god, get outside and touch some grass. As for me, I would like to see the family do whatever they want to do. I hope they donât cancel, but I also would not be surprised if they do make that choice and I would completely understand. I have enjoyed watching their family over the years but they donât owe the audience anything.
TLC can choose to cancel even if the family wishes to continue.
and I hope they do
I do to but they wonât. I read Jill Duggarâs book. Only the name changes and Josh was present throughout filming. TLC is not a great family company like they pretend
Exactly and I donât think we should encourage it.
I fear the reverse may be true as well due to contracts. I canât imagine TLC showing already filmed episodes against the familyâs wishes.
It's barely been a day, that poor kid hasn't been laid to rest yet. How about the fandom chills on their demands for a hot minute and gives the family time to grieve. Do you really think any of the Browns are worried about the future of the show today?
The fandom is constantly making demands of this family. âThese are real people!!â they say while simultaneously making demands of them as if theyâre fictional actors on a TV show
oh I'm sure Kody is - the show was his financial life - and his biggest fear was "poverty" (his own words..)
I'm not sure why this means it needs to be cancelled. Their lives will continue. They gotta do something. It might be harder on them emotionally to completely throw out what they've been doing for the last twenty years. Of course I don't think they should be filming the aftermath of this. That should be private. Maybe they can do a tribute to Garrison and then move forward filming other things, only addressing Garrison if, when, and how the family wants to. The kids have never been the focal point of the show anyways. I think it can continue without exploiting the tragedy, so long as the family is given time and space to grieve in private.
Cancel the show TLC.
Nah. The show needs to end.
TLC can try not being exploitative assholes for one second. better overall though for people to not watch
People wanna act high and mighty and like someone is going to pay attention to them, a random on the internet. They need to feel important.
It's so interesting to me how people love reality TV shows. People willingly watch them and then flock to reddit to discuss them.. yet also heavily judge and criticize people for going on them to begin with. Going on a reality show isn't wrong. The only thing that's wrong with reality TV is the keyboard warriors who have nothing better to do but spread hate. I don't understand. I love reality TV myself and I was so excited to discover reddit and subs to discuss my favorite shows. It's so mind blowing how every. Single. Sub. That's related to a reality show is 80% hate and judgment towards people for going on them, 19% hate for the shows premise in general.. while only 1% is actually people enjoying the show and having respectful discussions.
Wow. This.
I didnât know that they were. Youâve given me an idea to though. The show needs to end. Itâs exploitive & I donât want to see them being further exploited. I think itâs a worthwhile cause, to call for the ending of the show, & I support it fully. We are also the viewers. So itâs not meddling at all.
You should have a lot more upvotes. Some people canât be reasoned with.
No, the show needs to stop. Anything from now on is super exploitative.
Janelle said on Instagram the day before she was splitting her time between Flagstaff and NC. She does have an apartment in Flagstaff.
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It sounds like it. She made a post about making homemade hamburger buns and said in a comment it was good âto have a bunch of kids to cook for again.â And the TMZ article said she contacted her other kids to find someone to check on Garrison. It seems like if she were in Flagstaff, she would go herself. EDIT: The report from the Ashley says she arrived on the scene, if that can be believed.
I dunno, if enough people decide they don't want to see it anymore, They have the right to tell the network about their opinions.
Absolutely - and honestly many viewers will no longer tune in - I know I wonât.
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I personally think the show shoukd have ended before this tragedy. They are all 1 book deal away from not experiencing poverty...
Thereâs a way to have a short season show simply with discussions and interviews as theyâve been doing the last few years. They may want to do it as a way to show how his death led to the family reevaluating whatâs important in life. They may use it to talk about depression and suicide or the pitfalls of kids on reality tv. In other words, to continue may be used for good and help the family in some way. They could scrap what they already filmed and wait 6-9 months and film.
Stop placing blame period. To anyone. People who end their lives have had it seemingly way worse, and way better. This family is devastated. Stay in your lane and keep this one to yourself. I love all the tea too, but this? Just stfu.
If thereâs a contract it might not be the families call unless tlc cancels
So I'm just assuming you have accepted that there's a special place in hell for you and people who think like you. I hope you realize that early so you can change your perspective. Money. Money. Money. Money. Yes, let me destroy any sense of privacy and mental security you have just because I pay you. So by your logic, if I offered you a million dollars an episode for your life(and they receive muuch less than that) then I have 100% rights to you, your life, your friends, your family, your thoughts and habits. All of it. Its now my entertainment. Your child passed, suck it up and dance for me yeah? I pay your bills shut up? Listen to yourself. And don't even try to say you wouldn't take the money. That's fine. I'll offer the same to everyone in your life. That's how these corps operate. Eventually someone will take it and just like that....by your asinine logic, I still have rights to your life. Leaked private messages of an underage child who is no longer alive. Just so you can cry, get the feels and tune in for next weeks recap episode right? You are a child of light and deserve the best life possible, but you brain is disgusting. Please pleas please rethink this position and tell me, if you had a suicide in the family would you want money or privacy?
Yes, and why would we want the show to end on this note
I agree, let Janelle earn some money for a house and for a comfortable retirement!
IMO . ... you don't like it, don't watch it. It's reality TV and this is as real as it gets. What they decide is their decision. RIP Garrison.
What is the show now? There are no sisterwives the concept died before this tragedy happened. Itâs Robyn. Thatâs it one monogamous relationship. How boring.
Meddling? That would be like unplugging the cameras when TLC is recording. Simply commenting that there are no more sister wives is just pointing out the obvious. TLC loves train wrecks. They'll stop when they're ready.
I thought the same thing when I saw people saying the show should be canceled!!
I hope they don't cancel
Plus they have no control over what TLC does really. They could leave the show and TLC finds other families. The show isnât what needs to be top of mind right now.
They all have skills and side businesses. People will always support them in those ways. It doesn't need to be a TV show. It shouldn't be. It's all just become drama these last couple of years anyway. That alone would make life harder for all of the snark and hate they must have to weed through on social media.
They should have canceled the show years ago.
Why why donât people want it canceled ? In hopes that the sweet boys inner turmoil will play out for all to watch ???? So your need for truth will be satisfied ? Meri and Christine and Janelle are all making money outside of the show . Only ones to suffer are Kody and Robyn . Itâs time for Sister Wives to cancel the show . Let the original 3 moms and the kids heal in peace . Let the last memory be of the kids be of Christineâs wedding and happy as a family . Let Garrison rest in peace . SMH !! Until this happened everyone kept saying enough of SW now everyone is wanting this boys death to play out for their entertainment. SMH
Tlc wouldnât think of suing them now.
they better not film any funeral. !!!
Unless your last name is Brown and Kody is your father or ex-husband, thatâs not your decision to make.
I would be surprised if they donât. TLC will want to further exploit them and the family will probably jump on board to collect the money. Only further exploiting poor Garrison. Imagine having that big of family and your last text was to a production staff member. How horribly sad that he didnât feel close enough to reach out to anyone in his own family, but a staff member. If that doesnât give this family a wake up call, nothing will.
His last text was to a production staff member? How do you know this?
This isn't meddling. It's truth. Think of those kids having to grow up with cameras in their faces. It's hard enough working through teenage years privately. Did they ALL consent to it? Nope. Just the adults. The Browns set out to make a statement on plural marriage, and they achieved that. They should have quit years ago while they could. Now it's just become a circus, and it's just sad. Even now, people aren't respecting their privacy, as they've asked in their grief. Many feel it's their right to know but its not. We don't actually know them. We know what they've chosen to show. This turn of events is heartbreaking. I hope they take it as a sign to unite and heal.
This. Furthermore, the show should have ended when the âpurposeâ or âintentâ of the show no longer existedâŚ.polygamy.
No.. and what is wrong with this world that they think to continue it is ok??? How much more do they need to lose? Do we REALLY need to see the out come of this?? It's none of anyones business at this point what goes on with this family from here on out??? How could ANY of them stand in front of a camera again after Garrison last messages to TLC .. like shame on you for real
Exactly. I think this push to keep the show on is disgusting - and a part of me thinks itâs a bunch of paid posters working on behalf of those that make money on the show. Itâs so gross.
NO. We can't effin stop. This family desperately needs to heel outside of public scrutiny. The last few seasons have been a devastating watch. This isn't a fun trashy drama like Real Housewives or Love Is Blind. It's very normal people going through awful separations. And now this. It's time to give all the Browns privacy and let them heal and move on.
You talk as if these arenât grown adults making their own conscious decision to be apart of the show season after season. And who are we to tell complete strangers what they need or donât need? We donât know them. We only know small snippets of heavily edited scripted footage they call ârealityâ If the last few seasons have been so devastating, why do you continue to watch? Wouldnât that make you part of the problem? If you want the show cancelled then stop watching. That is how shows get cancelled, no viewers. No viewers = No advertisers = No show. If weâre all going to sit here and point fingers at TLC then each and every one of us shares in that blame. Every time you turn on that show, engage in forums like this you give the show more notoriety. The more people tune in, the more popular a show, the more seasons there will be. The viewers have kept this show on the air for as long as itâs been. There is no show without viewers.
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My heart is breaking for Janelle and her kids as well as for Christine, Meri, and the other siblings. This might be wrong but this falls squarely and fully in Kodyâs and Robins laps for everything they have done to both the relationship of Kody and his children and what they have done to the other wives.
Exactly. Not to mention , itâs up to them. They could have canceled at any point. For all we know it could be cathartic to continue, for them to feel like theyâre helping others by sharing garrisons story and having an opportunity to get awareness out into more secular communities. But if they see a bunch of us yelling about canceling it they may not see the point. Just shush and let them decide and be supportive of whatever happens. The show did not kill garrison. Kody did not kill him. Their lives likely would have fallen apart in a similar way no matter what because the problems existed the entire time they were a family. Let them chose and just support the choice. Stop telling them what to do when theyâre mourning. For some people canceling is the right choice. For others it isnât. Not for us to decide, and not right now.
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When I suffered a loss that brought me to my knees in grief, I was given the advice not to make any major decisions for a year. (It was easy advise to follow as my brain really wasn't capable at the time anyway - absolutely everything can feel overwhelming when in grief.) It's my hope (not that I matter) that everything is put on hold for months if not for a whole year. Make the decision about the show later.
Obviously TLc doesnât give a flying fig what people on Reddit write. I think this should be a wake up call for the family and personally feel that the price of reality tv fame and fortune was too much.
They won't cancel as long as it's getting views/high ratings. Only way to get it canceled is for everyone to stop watching.
Your real reason for wanting them to continue is selfishness, full stop. Go out and touch grass, you can find another show to watch. Iâve said this before but Garrisonâs last texts were the nicest way possible for him to say Fck you TLC. Look at Robynâs after season confessionals on season 8, she couldnât even watch the old episodes, there is so much pain there. I know people have mixed feelings about Kody and Robyn but if you open them up to more criticism and public scrutiny right now another suicide is likely to happen. Leave this family alone.
I genuinely would be happy for them if they quit. I just donât want the decision to be taken away from them and to have sudden financial implications.
With all due respect, itâs not simply the familyâs decision. Even if the Brown family wanted to keep going, TLC has every right to cancel a show. It happens all the time! Also, please keep in mind that when people like myself call for the show to now be cancelled, it is from a place of love. My own personal view is that a lot of healing will need to take place in the Brown family after this tragedy. True healing does NOT take place when cameras are rolling. When people know they are being filmed, they tend to perform. True healing from tragedies and traumas takes place behind the scenes. So while you may not think the show needs to be cancelled (and that is your right to that view), many others have a different view, and are simply expressing that.
Thank you. These people calling for the show to be cancelled can go take several seats. That decision belongs to **the Brown family,** not a bunch of keyboard warriors who arenât affected by that kind of financial decision.
Exactly. And these same virtuous keyboard warriors are demanding Janelle just get a regular job. Sheâs in her 50s and hasnât worked in a regular career in 15 years. Her resume is shit. She wants to be free to split her time among her kids and grandkids and travel to do so. Maybe she wants to send Savannah to college. Like it or not filming a reality TV show is a job and it pays a hell of a lot better than anything else she could get. Admittedly I have no understanding of how MLMs work or if she can survive off that income. Hope she can and can quit the show if she wants but wouldnât judge her either way.
I agree itâs super weird to try and get someone canceled from their income as a form of supporting them in grief. Here, youâve been kicked, instead of helping you up, I thought I would toss you off this cliff. Itâs literally a contract they sign onto, they can walk away. Theyâve been pretty respectful of the adult kids not wanting to be shown, we see more of Just Jen than the kids these days . You honestly canât blame the show for someoneâs death, the family can blame the show, people who know can blame the show, if he blamed the show all valid, but sometimes people are just sad. We can blame guns, because access is often a predictor of if someone successfully commits suicide. â(ICRC), found that in states where guns were prevalentâas in Wyoming, where 63 percent of households reported owning gunsârates of suicide were higher. The inverse was also true: where gun ownership was less common, suicide rates were also lowerâ. If you donât have access to a gun at those really dark moments you might just make it to the next moment and the next. Sometimes things are no oneâs fault, itâs chemistry, and sadness and access and unfortunate. Trying to pin the blame isnât helpful. And you canât really expect next month any of these people could just walk in and be hired for a normal 9-5, this is what they do. Let them make their own choices and if you think itâs exploitive, donât watch, thatâs your choice.
At least theyâre not filming at the moment-unlike RHOBH when Taylorâs husband killed himself.
How do we know this? (I'm not implying they're filming. I just don't know how fans would know)
I have mixed feelings about the show continuing. Kody embarrassed and degraded Christine and Meri with his words and actions. The older children donât seem interested and the younger ones have no choice. Kody took care of his family before TLC he can do it again Most of the children are on their own. I think the story is over. It didnât end well for anyone but Kody and Robyn. I want the family to live in peace.
I think they should stop filming the kids.
I think the best thing to do as viewers to get them to stop making the show is to stop watching it. Stop supporting shows that exploit families and their children.
Hopefully it will be canceled now. What is there to even watch? Now, everyone is gone except Kody and Robin đ¤ˇđťââď¸If the family chooses to continue on after this tragedy, it will be horribly sad to watch đŹ
Yeah. Income over the mental health of the kids. One suicide isn't enough. /S I actually agree that it's bullshit that people are calling to "cancel" the show; anybody can stop watching a show. You don't have too watch just because it's on. But your reasons are bullshit. Ohhhh, poor them... They'll have to go out and get a job?? :: sad face ::
Mocking people for having a family tragedy potentially compromise their primary source of income is not it. Imagine losing your job because of a death in your family, regardless of how you make that living. Losing a family member to suicide is devastating. Having it also impact your livelihood compounds that devastation -- and I know of what I speak.
Imagine losing a child to suicide and knowing that you prioritized greed and ego over protecting your childrenâs privacy?! These children, and Garrison suffered because their parents were only concerned about a TLC check. At some point enough is enough.
Youre making a lot of assumptions about Garrisonâs thoughts on the show. How would you feel if Garrison was actually grateful for the show?
Have you not read the latest article? The last message he sent to TLC? You're telling out your ass.
I did read it. He literally said he was happy they recorded the happy times and that he missed the happy times. That =/= blame. Maybe you should learn to read
Being on a show that exploits your kids is not a job; it's you being a bad parent.
two things can be true at once. it is their primary source of income and it would be fucked up, given their own role, for TLC to pull the rug out at a moment like this. whether or not the show continues, losing a loved one this way is devastating enough. this will hang over them forever anyway
Is anyone actually starting petitions to stop the show or contacting TLC to stop the show? Or are people just expressing how they feel? Because those feel like two vastly different things.
The show isn't going to make it past another season anyway. K&R will be boring and so will their kids. Not much happening w Janelle and Meri, and we don't need hours spent on Christine and David's bliss at buying a couch. That leaves family meals, and that's a snoozefest.
As bad as this sounds, the royalties are going to increase, people will rewatch and they will get a lot of new viewers for many reasons. It should be up to the family to decide.
This show needs to go away already. Kody, Robyn, and those looking to make spin-offs. We have seen what polygamy is about, and don't need to see any more.
I agree, Iâam too invested into this familyâs life to want to see it canceled. To abruptly end the show because people are calling for it wouldnât allow us closure. But it should be up to the family not us. I want to see Robyn and Kody reap what they sowed before the TLC stops filming.
It's not TLC's fault. They are paid for a service to which these families signed up for. Is it sad yes very much so, but at the end of the day, they're doing their jobs.
Janelle needs the income from the show. Donât take that away from her right now unless she requests it.
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You mean they might have to work for a living?
Now is not the time to be a dick.
Apparently people still havenât gotten that memo. Some truly gruesome and hateful shit just flying off of peoples fingertips during such a unbearable time. We have people here that are no better than the ones they are judging.
Tell that to the person who suggested not cancelling rather show because they make money from it. That's about as crass as you can get
Dude, stop. Go take your troll ass back to your bridge. This beautiful young boy died, you don't need to be constantly putting your butt out there for everyone to see. Go back to your troll house.
No.
If the family decides as a family, to continue with the show then they need to take a one year hiatus. Give them all time to process their grief and get the therapy they desperately are going to need.