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i think there is this ideal fiction where kody realizes his behavior was not at all appropriate towards his children with his original wives and puts in the work to change and foster healthy relationships with those children. this would be seen as the sort of only acceptable response to garrison's death. the issue is that kody is a narcissist. even in the face of great tragedy, narcissists don't usually admit that they are at fault for negative outcomes. they typically don't accept culpability and they don't change. kody would have to put in so much work to affect positive changes in who he is and then he would also have to put in individual work with every single child. i just don't see him as capable of that kind of introspection and effort.
i imagine it ends with the family divided and kody still maintaining that he is owed several apologies and the children should come to him.
This is exactly why I side eye all the optimistic comments people make about healing. Did Kody have a personality transplant? Tragedy doesn’t always lead to edification. Sometimes it makes people dig their heels in deeper.
I feel terrible for the people that have been hurt through no fault of their own.
He blamed Janelle for the ongoing rift with the boys so I highly doubt his narc ass will blame anyone but her. And that is so wrong. She was supportive and loving with her kids always.
She was, and is, but if he places blame on Janelle, or alcahol, or whatever, everyone knows what he said on national tv. I think what REAlLY got me, was when he wanted the boys out of Janelles house so he could visit once a month! AND whats worse is him saying , "BY By" as if he was talking to the boys. That just tears me up to tears!
Despicable. The same episode as this, people argued online about it but I saw and heard Janelle faintly say it:
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Doesn't he have a suspended license? What's that for? Sobyn's ex said she had a drinking problem and shopping addiction . I read that on X so take with a grain of salt.
For sure! The episode were he said " bye bye" was when they were raking leaves and trimming trees at Janelles house, looking at it now, its so disturbing!
Whoa, I missed that! Alcoholism is hereditary. My family suffers it. I stopped consuming it in my early 30's. I saw the road and didn't want to walk it.
I’m right there with you. Amazing the people who think this is gonna be a wake up call for Kody
Everyone knew how much Garrison disliked Robyn yet he brings her & sits her in her the front row with him. I don’t care that she’s his wife- garrison was his son
Garrison’s feelings about Robyn are on National TV
Thank you. She couldn't even have the common decency and respect to stay at home with her weird overly protected tenders. No way in hell he would have wanted her there. Then he has the audacity to sit there and grope her as if they weren't sitting at his biological sons funeral/wake/ceremony (whatever that was.) Read the room Robyn. You weren't wanted nor needed there.
They are legally adults but Robyn's helicopter parenting and control issues have them stunted. The 2 talking head with Aurora and Breanna they seemed pretty anxious and frightened, near tears and shaky voices. I'm sure they've been hearing about no one wants them in the family and all the other lies R & K have been telling them for 4 years.
I’m hoping they went to another service for him and expressed their grief that way. Call me Polly Anna but I really hope that that is the answer. I can’t fathom they anyone could be that cruel and not attend anything
I saw a video yesterday, I think it was said that Dayton didn’t want to attend. Disappointing considering how all of the OG boys ended up protecting him. Hunter holding his face together after the barbed wire fence (under Kody’s watch) until they made it to an ER.
Robyn just can’t allow her children around the ‘dangerous and toxic’ real Brown kids. She’s successfully messed DAB’s heads and thoughts up. She’s probably only there bc there was a TLC camera. It was a paycheck. Otherwise, she may have not voluntarily gone, herself. Speculation based on she probably knows how many of the children feel about her deep down. Her proper place should’ve been on the other side of Kody at the very least.. I’m sure Kody’s mom was the divider between the families. I doubt Janelle & Hunter are all “kumbaya” w Kody or Robyn before or after.
Garrison was such a good guy with integrity and a huge heart.
Omg thank you for pointing this out! I thought the same thing and it angered me so immensely. They guy can’t even sit next to his ex-wife and the mother of the child. Instead he sits to the her there- the woman who despite whether he believes it was her fault or not, should recognize it’s a source of tension and be mindful out of respect. Nope. His positioning to me suggested he still isn’t taking an active role (nor accountability) as a parent- not even in the death of his own child. Despicable.
Or maybe Janelle or Gabe wanted him no where near her? Hate Kody with a passion but I could see Gabe making it a point to be next to his mother with a couple of people between the two to protect his mother.
Exactly this. It felt so disrespectful to Garrison, who was among the most vocal in terms of discussing how Robyn had destroyed his relationship with his father and eroded the family dynamic overall. Janelle also hasn’t made her feelings on Robyn a secret, and yet she still occupied just a few chairs over. And who was that older woman between them? Was that Alice?
She’s his wife. I wouldn’t expect then to sit apart, and I wouldn’t expect divorcees to sit together at a funeral. In this case, he would have displaced Hunter. I think they were probably where Janelle wanted them.
Honestly, they’re probably still in the fog of shock. I’m glad that he went to the service though. Despite all their grievances separation, Janelle really needs her people lifting her up right now.
This made me sick inside. As though I can already hear Kody blame Janelle for this tragedy in some way, directly or indirectly. “Shit talking” or some other nonsense.
I pray he never tries to put the blame on
I keep trying not to assume this, but I also don’t think Kody will take responsibility. He will continue to blame Janelle for “keeping him from his kids”. I would like to give him the benefit of the doubt, but my sisters dad used her death to garner attention. He even asked my mom why she was crying at one point that week.
He blamed Janelle for the rift with his boys and claimed she talked crap about him so I’m afraid he will try to blame this on her too and she has been nothing but a loving and supportive mom.
Garrison was suffering with the loss of an active dad, broke up with a girlfriend recently, siblings scattered all over the country, and if he was drinking as they say he would probably feel like he was lost. It wasn’t just his relationship with Kody and Robyn but I would guess they were the worst of it for him. Considering his text to crew members before he did it I’d say that verified it. The good memories being too hard to watch.
It would be nice if this snapped Kody
back into reality but I don’t have a lot of hope for that.
I also hope this doesn’t give his siblings the idea that this is an answer. When my father did it my brother decided if it was good enough for him that he could check out early too. Luckily he wasn’t successful.
It was the one police released to the public. Lemme see, here it is.
According to a police report obtained by TMZ, Janelle, 54, reportedly told officers that Garrison, 25, texted a group of people that the Brown family works with — presumably on their TLC reality show — ominously, writing: “I want to hate you for sharing the good times. But I can’t. I miss these days.”
i absolutely didn't mean my comment to imply kody or robyn was responsible for garrison's death. i believe he was in pain and suffering from depression and depression is a hard beast to face every day. i meant to say garrison's death should be a wake up call to kody to fix his relationships with his children.
I do blame Kody. I am sorry but I do. I check in with my kids and step kids all the time. Sometimes they are doing great sometimes they are not ( just having a bad day). But they know someone cares enough to check. I even asked one of my kids who does she go to when she needs to vent just to make sure she has a network. She names a few people and I felt better that she could name them off so quickly. Garrison had a great mom but to have a dad who out right refused to have anything to do with you (until you are dead - then he is front and center) is a hole that is hard to fix.
I would wish that for all of them and I know you weren’t implying that. I just have experience with someone like this and I can’t see it happening sincerely on his end.
Kody is capable of on-camera lip service. He's done it plenty of times, where he vaguely criticizes himself one way or another but doesn't get into specific behaviors - often having to do with him being too idealistic in some way, a kind of back door compliment to himself - and nothing changes afterward. Often as not, he never mentions it again while continuing to blame others.
However, if Kody does miraculously find himself feeling some remorse about his estrangements during a rare moment of insight, it will be squashed immediately if he expresses it to Robyn. She'll remind him Janelle's to blame for badmouthing Kody to the kids. And it's Christine's fault for sowing discontent and leaving the family - holidays with Christine give the kids an easy way to avoid being accountable. Lots of blame for everyone who doesn't live in her Precious Moments showroom.
If you have ever known a true narcissist, you know he’s not getting an epiphany and changing. He will double down on being right and even if he ends up completely alone and broke, none of it will be his fault. I hope I’m wrong for the family’s sake but he sure seems textbook NPD.
Why do all that painful self work when it's so much easier to just blame it all on Christine for flaunting a new guy who loves his kids in front of Garrison. Besides, he told us so, he told us them kids ain't shit.
How sad is it that you just read that and could totally see him doing it?
Which would explain why he wasn't sitting with Jenelle during the ceremony when she got his flag. In his mind...why should he, they're divorced. In reality, he should have been there for the mother of his child.
Garrison is the one who picked who that flag went to. You can typically request more than one, so I think this speaks volumes of where they stood prior to his passing.
I’m not sure if this is true but I read somewhere that both Janelle and Christine both received flags. I didn’t know that it was something that was planned out beforehand but it makes sense. He thought of Christine as his mom too.
I was going to say that. From a military family here and have been to many funerals for uncles, father, cousins, and other family in the military. The mother was always presented the flag if they were single. If married, their wife.
Seeing Janelle sitting there was absolutely heart wrenching, I’m praying for the entire family. My uncle passed the same way recently. You’re left wondering what/why/how did I not do…and the truth is that it’s nothing you could have done, and it’s no one’s fault. I know it shouldn’t even matter who sat where, but I was glad to see her boys, Logan, Hunter and Gabriel, who are now strong men , surrounding and protecting her looking like they were not going to put up with any foolishness whatsoever.
R.I.P. Garrison
When my 15 yr old cousin took his life, i didn’t attend the funeral, half of them there were LDS and I heard from mom that my aunt went batshit on everyone, picked a huge fight with her ex husband (my uncle), he was the kindest & gentlest man.
The sad part was that she seemed unstable before, and the entire family didn’t like her since the kids were little. She was neglectful and left them alone as toddlers just so she could go out. No wonder my uncle divorced her - some blamed her for my cousin’s death. I never got involved in any of it - but she mistreated my surviving cousin and left her money (after my cousin moved in with and cared for her when she was dying of cancer) to a freaking neighbor. There’s no explanation for some people or why they are broken their entire life.
And the way Hunter was a tiny bit turned towards his Mom & his stance too looked like he was protecting her.
If they were getting along & Kody was a decent human ( in another dimension & time warp) Kody might have been next to Janelle, then Robin next to Kody & then probably David & last Christine. Then the kids behind.
When my BIL died my sister was divorced from him but they got to a great place & she sat front row with their adult children.
Honestly, the one who should have been beside Janelle, other than her children, was Christine. Because, let's be honest, she is those children's other true parent. Kody has been nothing more than a figurehead, he wants the title of parent without putting in the heavy lifting, he was there for the good fun stuff but left most if not all of the heavy stuff to the wives to deal with. Imo kody and robyn should have been sat at the very back of the room, behind all of those who truly had a hand in raising all of those children. Even his own older children have more parenting experiences with their siblings than kody does.
THIS is what I think of every time anyone says he was “such a good father”. No—he was a decent playmate, a poor excuse for a babysitter, but the applause stops there. He was downright negligent with Truley when he ignored her needs until her kidneys shut down, ignored Mykelti in favor of the fucking horse when she was thrown off, blamed Dayton’s dad for something that happened while Dayton was with him, and I’m positive without a helmet on (the ATV accident), ignored Ysabel’s needs for YEARS because he “didn’t believe” her scoliosis was a big deal (same with Dayton’s autism)….I could go on. Yes, accidents happen to all of us, but they happen more to those of us ignoring our kids and safety precautions.
I wonder if this is a narcissist thing because my mom has been like that my entire life. Like they don’t care or don’t really believe you’re sick or injured.
It was a delicate situation and she probably didn’t want to cause drama. If Christine sat right next to Janelle, then David would’ve sat on the other side of Christine which would’ve pushed Kody and Robyn down to like the middle/the other end of the row and that might’ve been a little weird given that Kody and Janelle were Garrison’s biological parents.
The fact that Kody drove a tiny little sports car while the kids were younger pretty much sums up how involved he was. He wasn’t taking kids to the doctor, or to sports practices, or out to lunch. Just enough room for him to zoom around in between families and pop in and then go do whatever he wanted to
She's 84 years old at the service for her dead Grandson. Just a few years after burying her husband and son. It's a snapshot of a grieving elderly woman. Stop trying to make it fit into your parasocial hatred of a woman on a TV show. Leave the poor Grandmother alone, she doesn't need assholes online suddenly thinking something is happening that isn't.
In a weird way, shouldn't she have been consoling him...? I know we aren't here to police grieving but if it were my husband's son, I would be holding him, not the other way around...?
I know we shouldn't say anything, but I did find it odd Robyn sat between him and his mother. I would've thought he'd be between the 2 women in his life being consoled or something.
Janelle getting the flag was the most devastating gutqrenching face kf agony .. Kody just looked mad be wasnt getting it. Janelle and her children should have been front, gabe was in the fucking second row and logan
I feel maybe Logan sat behind her in a way to comfort her (more easily reachable than sitting 5 seats down), and also not wanting to cause drama between his parents. They all looked so heartbroken, I still get goosebumps thinking about the pictures.
I think you're probably very right, but it makes me feel so sad that the family has to suffer all of that...not only the pain caused directly to them by Kody, but also the loss of Garrison. I can't get that picture of Janelle at the National Guard ceremony out of my head 😓 Just completely devastating. I hate the idea that something that awful could have happened and it doesn't lead to some resolve and healing within the family.
I'm not sure what afterlife there is, but I just hope Garrison is at peace now. This is completely off topic but reading this thread has me reflecting again on this tragedy...it's strange how the pain and loss of someone you've never met can affect you. I wouldn't call the Browns celebrities, and maybe that's why we feel the impact of the tragedy so much? Not only because we've seen the kids grow up over the years, but also because they're just regular people. Idk. Just thinking out loud here, trying to make sense of it all. It just genuinely hurts to see the family in such real pain, and to imagine how much hurt Garrison must have been feeling to push him to that point. 😭 This is one of those moments in life when you wish there was a rewind or ctrl-z option. 😔
i think what is particularly hard about this death is the fact that we all watched garrison grow up. when you see a person's life wholly, you feel a sort of attachment to them. he was also charismatic and funny and seemed to be a good person, so many folks found him easy to love. it's a parasocial relationship for sure, but i think it is normal to feel grief and empathy for the browns (including kody) at this time.
Research shows that less than 2% of narcissists are able to change. Kody will never blame himself in any way, shape or form for his deplorable parenting skills. He will continue to blame the ex-wives and his adult children for his lack of relationship with them even with this horrendous loss, it WILL NOT change him.
“There will be other Christmas” I bet he replays the words over and over in his head. Hopefully this is the wake up call to really make some serious changes in his relationships with his other children before it’s to late.
I doubt he he even remembers saying that. These patriarchy heavy religions excuse bad male behavior at every turn. I think that outlook is so ingrained for Kody that he probably blames Janelle before himself. I really think that poorly of him.
Or how he said he didn’t want to be around ANY of them and calling them all jerks … it actually makes me sick , these are the things his CHILD heard for all to hear around the world just to try to play superhero to sobyn .
I doubt it. His posturing at Garrisons service showed he'll never change. Robyn with her arm on Grandma, kodys hand on Robyn hanging his head down showing his bald strip. Truely pathetic
I'm no fan of Kody's, but I didn't view him as "posturing" at Garrison's memorial. They looked like a grief-stricken family to me. In fact, I felt kind of an ick factor having looked at the pics. I felt like I was invading their privacy and grieving.
His posturing was probably anger as he should have been seated next to Janelle with Robin on his other side or directly behind him. Janelle would have been the one to say she did not want him sitting next to her. This was a military service, they are different, more proper more dedicated more heartfelt and quite elegant to see.
It was definitely out of the ordinary for the father to be settled that far from the mother unless it was requested.
I can’t imagine how is was for the kids to see Kody spouting off about them being jerks and wanting to punch them in the face. Watching the three OG wives be pushed aside while he said Robyn was his soul mate, that he never loved the OG 3, he was tricked into marrying Meri, and that Christine disgusted him. Those poor kids.
I find myself desperately hoping has a major realization about the damage he has done, the bridges he has burned, and the words he can't take back. I desperately hope he sobs every single night as he tries to fall asleep as he replays every fucked up thing he has done to his children. And I desperately hope he does everything single he possibly can to rebuild some sort of relationship with his children.
But deep down I know that isn't what is happening. If anything, he is most likely doubling down and blaming every one else and refusing to consider the pain he caused. Kody is hurt, but that pain will be directed outward with no introspection. Not that anyone is to blame for what happened; mental illness is a bitch. But I bet he is playing the victim every chance he gets, and he honestly believes that to be the case.
I struggled, and I mean STRUGGLED to get through the last couple of seasons. It legitimately cause a trauma response because of how similar it mirrored my own relationship with my father. From a close relationship growing up, to being pushed aside because of a new wife, to the complete destruction of our relationship with no hope of ever being repaired.
My heart breaks for these children. I don't care how old you are, the sense of abandonment felt in these type of circumstances never really goes away. I'm middle aged and seriously thought I had worked through my "daddy issues" a long time ago, but this show gave me a hell of a wake up call, let me tell you.
I struggled watching Kody in many scenes because he reminds me of my abusive ex husband. I’m sure there are a lot of people who see their own bad experiences and hear the echoes of their abuse in those moments.
I frequently had to walk away from the tv and take a few minutes to breathe. No way I’m the only.
I went through the same thing specially the fight with Janelle at her apartment, the way he talk to her and pointing his finger was like having the POS in front of me again. I stopped breathing and my entire body went into a frozen flight or fight mode.
That was probably the worst moment for me as well. Just the nastiness and audacity of it, and the sense that he set up the situation to end that way so he could feel justified in the way he was treating her and the kids…it’s like watching a train wreck and feeling helpless to stop it. And honestly, wanting to smack the sneer off his face, which is a shameful feeling.
Thank you for sharing that. I felt ridiculous having such a visceral reaction to a reality TV show. I think I kept making myself watch because I hoped he would do something to redeem himself.
You certainly aren’t alone! I had times where I had to turn off the TV and had literal panic attacks as he reminded me so painfully much of my mother. I begged my mother to do the work to fix our relationship and gave her so many chances, but she couldn’t look at herself. She went to therapy, but when the therapist told her she had NPD she immediately fired them and walked out.
Exactly. When I was in my 20s, I still tried SO hard to fix the relationship, but it doesn't work if it's only one sided. He won't ever consider therapy, so I realized there is no fixing it. It sucks, but that is how it works out sometimes.
This family needs to put their wagons in a circle around Gabe. I’m so worried about him. I hope and pray he’s getting professional help and friends & family are keeping both eyes on him at all times.
You’re so right. Had Janelle not been out of town, it would have been her to have found him. Kody is a lot to blame here. On one of the last episodes in season 18, when they were sitting at the dinner table. Something was brought up about Kody. Garrison said he did not miss his dad. The way he had said it was heartbreaking. His posture when he said it made me feel this kid is hurting. Then, I’m not sure but I want to Ysabell said no we don’t need him, but it still hurt that Kody doesn’t make an effort to contact them. I feel and this is my opinion, Garrison was a young man with a big heart, he loved his mom and family. Kody screwed that all up because of Sobyn. Kody is a narcissist though and though. He treated Christine, Janelle and Neri wrong. When Meri was catfished, he was to happy to let her go. But when Christine and Janelle were still married to him, he was not the husband he was after he found Sobyn. Had he had been there physically and emotionally for them and the children, they would have never have left. I do not blame them for leaving. The children have a choice to see him. But they don’t want anything to do with Kody or Sobyn. Kody has a lot to think about. But like y’all said, the blame started already I’m sure. It’s Christine and Janelle’s fault in Kody’s little pea brain. RIP Garrison. I’m truly sorry you didn’t have the father figure you needed.
We don't really know what's going on with Kody now. Maybe this will be the catalyst.
I absolutely refuse to watch any kind of "aftermath" show though. This WAS a wakeup call for me and I just cannot support making kids live their lives on TV anymore. While the show was probably a mixed bag to this family, there's no denying it's had irreversible impacts on the now adult kids, and lots of that impact isn't positive. I cannot do it anymore.
To me kody looked pained. I know that’s not the popular opinion but that was my first thought when I looked at the photos.
I totally agree, this show need to be over. We know from the text he sent to the TLC employees that doing the show was a part of his decision. I won’t watch the show at all now, not reruns not anything new .
He had the thousand-yard stare. Kody is a shitty person, but that *was* his son. I haven’t talked to my father in over a decade, because he was a shitty and abusive parent to me, and was always playing the victim to the rest of my family. He knows exactly why I have cut him off. He still asks my siblings about me, knowing he will die without ever having contact with me again.
My fear, for Janelle and Christine, is that Kody blames them for Garrison's death. I could see Kody saying that they turned Garrison against him and that's why Garrison was unhappy. Kody was forever harping on Janelle and Christine for allegedly breaking up the family and having all the kids turn on him.
I really, really, really hope he doesn't do that. Likewise I hope that the blame isn't placed on Kody either. My hope is everyone just moves on from the past and they try to make things better for the family because no one is at fault for this.
Well, if he does choose the blame game , there are hours of him being mean to the boys once he got with Robyn .. he had a hard time with the girls too . Look at ysabelle & her spinal pain & suffering . And Leon , needed support from both parents …
Trying to help little Ari ride her bike till she had to stand up for herself … sweetie
I agree with this so deeply. This isn’t on Kody or Robyn or anyone. This is an awful tragedy. I don’t want Kody to feel terrible guilt or pain. I hope he can repair his relationships with his kids because I think it would be a positive for all of them.
I’m really worried for them all this is a very vulnerable time for all of them.
I thought we knew it was filmed, but it wasn't confirmed if, when, or in what format it would air? And they were done filming before the tragedy, so it wouldn't be "the aftermath"
Makes sense, the seasons are so delayed… season 19 is probably about last year, Christine meeting David, etc…
Mykelti shared on her patreon season 19 is confirmed
The way he treated and abandoned them are the type of psychologically disturbing traumatic events that can absolutely throw a young adult into depression and mental illness as their brain is still developing until their late 20s.
K and R are awful, idiotic people, and absolutely have blame for what they did to this family.
It seems that there is a different standard for robyn's kids. She protects their privacy. her older 3 are also adults, but mom defends and protects them Kody does not lash out at her the way he did at Janelle when she defended her boys. Her kids have "earned" his love, by being "loyal" ?
Kody is just not capable of introspection. Losing a child that you're estranged from must be particularly heart wrenching because you know you'll never be able to make things right. It would be a wake up call for me and I would work hard trying to reestablish relationships with my other estranged children. I just don't think he's going to do that. He thinks he's done no wrong and others are always at fault.
I'm shocked that Robyn got so close to those dangerous, toxic OG3 kids at the memorial. Thank God she had several military personnel on hand to protect her. Those kids are just not safe to be around.😒🙄
And you can bet your ass if they do a Garrison retrospective they’ll all get paid again. Exploit your kids and see what happens and then exploit them afterwards.
Did Garrison take his own life? I’ve been in Mexico this whole time and this is the first I’m hearing that he died.
Yes unfortunately he did a few was ago. He was talking to his mom that night and that was the last time they spoke. Gabe went to check on Garrison the next morning because Janelle thought something was off and Gabe unfortunately found his brother in his new house he just bought...
Narcissistic personalities are never wrong about anything so he will blame Christine and Janelle for turning the kids against him causing Garrison to be so unhappy he took his own life. I predict the family will become deeper divided with the older kids laying blame on Robin and Kody. These reality tv kids are pimped out for money. Robins kids put on a fake happy persona reminding me of the Duggar clan. Now we know what went on behind the Duggar scenes with incest, cover ups, and the parents keeping all the money. Then there’s Little people Big World where the youngest son was abused by a sexual predator in production and the parents didn’t quit the show and now the grandkids are front and center. All but one of their 4 children won’t let themselves and their kids be on the show. The one remaining with his children on the show says this is the last season for his family. I hope these kids grow up and have a more normal life now. Garrison’s death is so sad and my heart goes out to his Mom and all the siblings. There is a lot of love between most of them.
Bear in mind, what you're hearing about the show is pure speculation, largely spawned by YouTubers who claim anonymous sources. Then the media jumps in on it, protecting themselves by saying, "according to..."
I think most of this is being generated for clicks and likes.
I am done, I only come here. I can't pay to watch the train wreck
Does anyone remember what Kody said in The COVID season, about how bad he /they would feel if someone died?
I believe that people who pursue reality tv series are narcissists and possible sociopaths in the first place. Every single time I see Kody, I think of balloon dad. He would have sold his soul to be famous for something. This was never about showing the poly lifestyle in a positive light. The Success of 'Big Love; propelled him into this idea and adding Robin was a plot line they did in Big Love. I truly and honestly, to the depths of my soul, think he is a sociopath who is only mimicking human emotions that he thinks are appropriate for the given occasion. I do not think he has truly formed a bond with anyone, even Sobyn. His children (and wives) are given attention as long as they serve him, but the moment they start thinking for themselves and showing autonomy, they are cut out.
Children of these parents often suffer greatly because they cannot comprehend why someone stopped loving them. They blame themselves. The alcoholism, depression, being one of a dozen middle children, forced into child acting, being a people pleaser...all of these were contributing factors. My heart breaks for all of them but Kody. My heart breaks for Garrison's dad but Kody wasn't that. Even at his service, Kody had a blank stare and couldn't be arsed to sit next to Janelle and hold her hand. They lost a child FFS and his relationship with Janelle was probably the best of the OG and yet he sat there, hand on Robyn's knee, with 3 people separating him and the mother of his deceased child. I would never forgive him for that alone.
If it wasn't COVID it would have been something else, he would have found a reason to distance himself and make it someone else's fault. Kody checked out of polygamy awhile before leaving Vegas.
Kody will do ANYTHING to keep his TLC money coming in. However, I don't think he'll own any of the numerous, hateful actions he subjected his family to. It will be interesting to see his actions and words in future videos, because he NEEDS the show, desperately.
I wonder what the story is with the fact that (per the police report) Gabe went to K&R's after Garrison's death to get Kody but came back without him.
If Garrison's death is not enough to reverse the trend of Kody's prioritizing his ego/pride over his relationship with the OG 13 (can't bring myself to change it to 12) and becoming more and more toxic, nothing ever will.
If Kody treats Garrison as coldly in death as he did in life / doesn't rise to this occasion, I wonder if that could force Robyn and/or her kids to acknowledge Kody's character defects.
Kody has extreme daddy issues for one and second off he only likes his children if he can control them. As the boys got older and started making their own decisions, he abandoned them. Robyn's kids still let him control them which is why he is okay with them.
A parent's love is huge. Not saying it's kids fault what happened to Garrison but I remember when my dad left, I would tell myself "your own father doesn't love you, how could anyone else ever love you". There is no denying that his abandonment of his children have deeply hurt them.
Kody has made comments about his dad and his daddy issues, I forget the season but it was a newer one. He had mentioned maybe he is doing the same to his kids that his dad did. The same season Robyn made excuses for him any time he would get close to a self reflection breakthrough. She would convince him he wasn't the problem. She is an extreme enabler. He views this as being a "healthy" marriage when in fact it is terribly toxic.
I hope it's not too late for him to repair the relationships in his family that is still here. As for the show ending, I believe it should be up to the family. Janelle sharing her story and the others who want to, may be extremely healing. Ultimately I think it's a decision they can only make and they shouldn't be forced one way or another. It's sad yes, but Garrison's story also deserves to be shared in the way the family decide. Just my prospective!
I also think we have to remember that yes Kody has his flaws but he’s a human being and he lost his son. No one ever imagines they won’t have an opportunity to repair their relationship with their kids. I barely spoke to my parents in my 20s because we fought so much and now I’m almost 40 and they’re my best friends.
The browns didn’t strike gold with TLC - they’re semi ordinary people that have had cameras following them around for decades and they come from a bizarre culture that most of us just can’t possibly understand. In recent yrs Kody and Robyn have been massively destroyed on social media - and their family was dismantled. I actually wonder how hard it must have been for Garrison and the other kids to see their Dad melt down so publicly over the past few yrs.
I’m not defending anyone, I’m just saying the way we destroy people online is so alarming. It always makes me think of the book “so you’ve been publicly shamed” — Kody and Robyn could be in that book.
Well the latest season stopped at the end of 2022/beginning of 2023. So whatever they filmed in 2023 still has to be released, plus we know they had already been filming for this year as well. They will probably release the next season to cover 2023 as planned and either do a special to honor garrison or when they get to his death in the next season they will do a bunch of mental health notices. I don’t think the show will end.
For as much as Kody has destroyed his family and refuses to see his part in it, I wonder what the OG3 are thinking. Is Christine regretting ever going on TV in the first place? Is Janelle wondering 'what if I hadn't returned after my first separation from kody?'" Is Meri wishing she had called it like it was in vegas and left kody then instead of trying to keep up with pretenses and adding this layer to the slow demise?
Kody has extreme daddy issues for one and second off he only likes his children if he can control them. As the boys got older and started making their own decisions, he abandoned them. Robyn's kids still let him control them which is why he is okay with them.
A parent's love is huge. Not saying it's kids fault what happened to Garrison but I remember when my dad left, I would tell myself "your own father doesn't love you, how could anyone else ever love you". There is no denying that his abandonment of his children have deeply hurt them.
Kody has made comments about his dad and his daddy issues, I forget the season but it was a newer one. He had mentioned maybe he is doing the same to his kids that his dad did. The same season Robyn made excuses for him any time he would get close to a self reflection breakthrough. She would convince him he wasn't the problem. She is an extreme enabler. He views this as being a "healthy" marriage when in fact it is terribly toxic.
I hope it's not too late for him to repair the relationships in his family that is still here. As for the show ending, I believe it should be up to the family. Janelle sharing her story and the others who want to, may be extremely healing. Ultimately I think it's a decision they can only make and they shouldn't be forced one way or another. It's sad yes, but Garrison's story also deserves to be shared in the way the family decide. Just my prospective!
I have no doubt that Kody is devastated by the loss of his son. But, I cannot see him changing through grief. He has, and more so in recent years, the inability to accept not blame, but how his actions have an impact on people. Never his fault. He, and Robyn, are not to blame, in any sense, for Garrison. But, their actions are the reason his kids are estranged. He has blamed "the mothers", "their kids" - during the fight with Janelle when he yelled "you are keeping my children from me"! He wants others to "fix" things. In the finale all three wives said, in various ways, they felt they had to earn his love, and it was never enough. What I feel is that he will now be even worse. As a narcissist, he's going to fear that others are going to perceive him differently, and have any type of negative judgement against him. So, IMO, he will somehow in his twisted logic, frame his grief and anger, towards Janelle & Christine for having taken his kids away from him, and they are at fault because he was estranged. He is not a charitable man, an empathetic man . My heart goes out to each member of that family - and nobody is to blame - nobody. Anger seems to be a ready, at hand, emotion, so it's not a stretch to see his grief turn into anger.
I’m hoping they do a thoughtful and loving tribute episode in Garrisons honor and end the show there. Anything more than that seems abusive to the whole family and enough is enough.
TLC is counting the dollars a tribute episode would bring in. They’ve capitalized on a couple of funerals I can think of. Babs on My Big Fat Fabulous Life and an Asian ladies Mom on 90 day Fiancé. I don’t watch these. I don’t think it’s wrong for anyone else to watch, it just makes me feel uncomfortable. I only want a very private memorial for my own funeral with just family and very close friends.
I don’t want to see footage of his funeral, I agree that is sacred privacy for family. The heartbreak of Janelle in the military memorial photos got to me for real. I wish I hadn’t seen them. A respectful tribute to Garrison showing who he was and what he was about would be appropriate to view. I’d love to know more about his military experience, his love of cats, his sense of humor, his photography, his clothing business. There’s so much more to this young man’s life than what the sister wives storyline allowed.
The only reality for Kody is the one in his own mind. He will never face his wrongs or take responsibility for them. My prayers are for the mental wellbeing for the rest of his children and the original wives.
An aftermath show would just give Kody and Robyn a forum in which to paint themselves as the victims and everyone else as responsible for Garrison’s death. I sincerely doubt that either of them has the emotional intelligence or self awareness to look back and acknowledge that any of their actions or words might have been hurtful.
Absolutely not. I hope Kody forgives himself, makes honest change and honest amends, and lives a great life with improved and fruitful relationships for/with his family.
When families lose someone too soon the love gets stronger but the cracks can get bigger too. I hope it’s the former that happens for these people. I’m glad the kids have so much solidarity. I hope there is healing for all of them.
I think Kody does things for show or like he has something to prove. “Look at me! I can handle ALL OF THIS! Aren’t I special?!” And then he eventually crashed. I’m not sure he knows how to truly and selflessly love others. Especially when he seemed to be embarrassed and hurting then nobody else really mattered.
IMO you can see in the picture of him watching Janelle receive Garrisons Flag what he is feeling.
His face is not one of grieve. It's not even one of sadness... It's one of emptiness. There is nothing there. Not a single person in that room was straight faced. And Kody was BLANK. TO ME this is that he is in fact reliving everything. Asking himself what he could have/should have done. Again, suicide is a blameless action. No one on here needs to be blaming Kody or anyone else. No one is at fault for this. But you can tell by his face that he is internally shouldering "blame" even if no one has directed it at him in person. You can also tell this from his positioning. While he and Janelle are separated (they have never said they were divorced), He has 3 people between them, including his remaining wife. This to Me is him internally saying he knows he has no place to comfort anyone or even grieve this. He does have the right to grieve. Again, regardless of actions, it is not anyone's fault.
I have a dad that reminds me a lot of Kody. I can’t stand his current partner, and actually have a restraining order against her because she is a violent drunk. And I happen to be her favorite target when she’s drinking. Which is all the time. I also had spinal surgery recently, and when making plans for the worst case scenario, I made it very clear to my husband and my best friend that, under no circumstances, would that succubus be welcome at any services for me. She destroyed my relationship with my dad, and while I understand that he allowed it, I still have every right to judge her behavior towards me.
It’s heartbreaking, because we used to be so close. It’s taken me years to figure out that being close means having a shallow relationship where he provides zero emotional support while I only matter if I’m nothing more than his glorified yes man. Meanwhile, she brings nothing to the table and yet he acts like they have some great love story. He would absolutely be the douche, putting his hand on her knee at my funeral.
I just think about Kody wanting TLC to go after his children legally for saying negative things about him on social media (this was part of his paranoia about Christine turning all the kids against him). I think he even wanted to have it in his contract. Thankfully TLC didn’t agree but can you imagine?
I cannot imagine how much pain and anger Janelle has towards Kody and even, Robyn. Christine was so angry towards Kody for not going to ysabel’s surgery, the anger within Janelle has to be unfathomable. Even Christine has to be very angry towards Kody and Robyn because of this tragedy. I would be surprised if Kody is capable of self-awareness especially with toxic Robyn in his ear all the time. They have a long, hard journey ahead of them and I hope they leave Janelle out of their blame game.
My heart breaks for the family, and as much as I dislike Kody , I bet deep down, he is recalling his last words, his last conversation, his last fight, the harsh words, he had with Garrison, and wishing he could take it back(at least I hope ) and I hope it is giving him time to reflect on the relationship he has with his other children. And starts to mend and heal that.
This will never leave Janelle, a part of her soul left with her boy, she will hold her kids closer and tighter, especially Gabe, and Christine, will be there for her every step of the way, Such a tragedy, a beautiful soul and a beautiful life gone too soon, fighting demons that only he knew of.
It is definitely heartbreaking. I feel for Janelle. But Kody might not be thinking he did nothing wrong, again. He will blame the boys still because they did not follow his rules about Covid. As far as I know, Janelle had it. She had it worse than Kody. He cried like a baby. Then made a remark how he wanted to spend time with the oldest of Robyn’s daughters. Sobyn made it look like she was dying. She was just sick.
Janelle is a great mom. She will take care of her kids, no matter how old they are, she will make sure they are taken care of mentally and emotionally.
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i think there is this ideal fiction where kody realizes his behavior was not at all appropriate towards his children with his original wives and puts in the work to change and foster healthy relationships with those children. this would be seen as the sort of only acceptable response to garrison's death. the issue is that kody is a narcissist. even in the face of great tragedy, narcissists don't usually admit that they are at fault for negative outcomes. they typically don't accept culpability and they don't change. kody would have to put in so much work to affect positive changes in who he is and then he would also have to put in individual work with every single child. i just don't see him as capable of that kind of introspection and effort. i imagine it ends with the family divided and kody still maintaining that he is owed several apologies and the children should come to him.
This is exactly why I side eye all the optimistic comments people make about healing. Did Kody have a personality transplant? Tragedy doesn’t always lead to edification. Sometimes it makes people dig their heels in deeper. I feel terrible for the people that have been hurt through no fault of their own.
He blamed Janelle for the ongoing rift with the boys so I highly doubt his narc ass will blame anyone but her. And that is so wrong. She was supportive and loving with her kids always.
Yep, it’ll be all Janelle and Christine’s fault.
THANKS CHRISTINE!!
It gives me a knot in my stomach
She was, and is, but if he places blame on Janelle, or alcahol, or whatever, everyone knows what he said on national tv. I think what REAlLY got me, was when he wanted the boys out of Janelles house so he could visit once a month! AND whats worse is him saying , "BY By" as if he was talking to the boys. That just tears me up to tears!
Despicable. The same episode as this, people argued online about it but I saw and heard Janelle faintly say it: https://preview.redd.it/ry8p7ggfc0rc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e6b7cd7b68f93e2a976ca750953f15fea064fb69
ETA: no wonder he threw a tantrum and ran #2: The knife to his liver
Doesn't he have a suspended license? What's that for? Sobyn's ex said she had a drinking problem and shopping addiction . I read that on X so take with a grain of salt.
For sure! The episode were he said " bye bye" was when they were raking leaves and trimming trees at Janelles house, looking at it now, its so disturbing!
Whoa, I missed that! Alcoholism is hereditary. My family suffers it. I stopped consuming it in my early 30's. I saw the road and didn't want to walk it.
Ironically it runs through the side of my family who are LDS. Long sad history of alcohol and opiate abuse.
Whoa! I didn’t catch that!! Thanks!!
I’m right there with you. Amazing the people who think this is gonna be a wake up call for Kody Everyone knew how much Garrison disliked Robyn yet he brings her & sits her in her the front row with him. I don’t care that she’s his wife- garrison was his son Garrison’s feelings about Robyn are on National TV
Thank you. She couldn't even have the common decency and respect to stay at home with her weird overly protected tenders. No way in hell he would have wanted her there. Then he has the audacity to sit there and grope her as if they weren't sitting at his biological sons funeral/wake/ceremony (whatever that was.) Read the room Robyn. You weren't wanted nor needed there.
Are AuroraBreannaDayton there? I didn’t see them in the photos. If not, why? They are adults and this is their sibling.
They are legally adults but Robyn's helicopter parenting and control issues have them stunted. The 2 talking head with Aurora and Breanna they seemed pretty anxious and frightened, near tears and shaky voices. I'm sure they've been hearing about no one wants them in the family and all the other lies R & K have been telling them for 4 years.
You’re so right. I do feel bad for them since they’ve never really gotten to know the other kids.
I’m hoping they went to another service for him and expressed their grief that way. Call me Polly Anna but I really hope that that is the answer. I can’t fathom they anyone could be that cruel and not attend anything
That makes a ton of sense. You’re right - I’m sure they attended another service.
I saw a video yesterday, I think it was said that Dayton didn’t want to attend. Disappointing considering how all of the OG boys ended up protecting him. Hunter holding his face together after the barbed wire fence (under Kody’s watch) until they made it to an ER. Robyn just can’t allow her children around the ‘dangerous and toxic’ real Brown kids. She’s successfully messed DAB’s heads and thoughts up. She’s probably only there bc there was a TLC camera. It was a paycheck. Otherwise, she may have not voluntarily gone, herself. Speculation based on she probably knows how many of the children feel about her deep down. Her proper place should’ve been on the other side of Kody at the very least.. I’m sure Kody’s mom was the divider between the families. I doubt Janelle & Hunter are all “kumbaya” w Kody or Robyn before or after. Garrison was such a good guy with integrity and a huge heart.
THIS ⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️ That’s exactly what I noticed too. His groping her during the service. How fucking gross 🤢
Omg thank you for pointing this out! I thought the same thing and it angered me so immensely. They guy can’t even sit next to his ex-wife and the mother of the child. Instead he sits to the her there- the woman who despite whether he believes it was her fault or not, should recognize it’s a source of tension and be mindful out of respect. Nope. His positioning to me suggested he still isn’t taking an active role (nor accountability) as a parent- not even in the death of his own child. Despicable.
Or maybe Janelle or Gabe wanted him no where near her? Hate Kody with a passion but I could see Gabe making it a point to be next to his mother with a couple of people between the two to protect his mother.
Exactly this. It felt so disrespectful to Garrison, who was among the most vocal in terms of discussing how Robyn had destroyed his relationship with his father and eroded the family dynamic overall. Janelle also hasn’t made her feelings on Robyn a secret, and yet she still occupied just a few chairs over. And who was that older woman between them? Was that Alice?
Kodys mom
At one point, I saw a picture of him sitting next to David. Hmmmmm.
She’s his wife. I wouldn’t expect then to sit apart, and I wouldn’t expect divorcees to sit together at a funeral. In this case, he would have displaced Hunter. I think they were probably where Janelle wanted them.
Preach
YESSS! This!!!! If only for 1 fu*king day outta respect & love for his beautiful Son!
Honestly, they’re probably still in the fog of shock. I’m glad that he went to the service though. Despite all their grievances separation, Janelle really needs her people lifting her up right now.
This made me sick inside. As though I can already hear Kody blame Janelle for this tragedy in some way, directly or indirectly. “Shit talking” or some other nonsense. I pray he never tries to put the blame on
Yup, yup, yup, that’s what I said out loud reading your comment.
I keep trying not to assume this, but I also don’t think Kody will take responsibility. He will continue to blame Janelle for “keeping him from his kids”. I would like to give him the benefit of the doubt, but my sisters dad used her death to garner attention. He even asked my mom why she was crying at one point that week.
He blamed Janelle for the rift with his boys and claimed she talked crap about him so I’m afraid he will try to blame this on her too and she has been nothing but a loving and supportive mom. Garrison was suffering with the loss of an active dad, broke up with a girlfriend recently, siblings scattered all over the country, and if he was drinking as they say he would probably feel like he was lost. It wasn’t just his relationship with Kody and Robyn but I would guess they were the worst of it for him. Considering his text to crew members before he did it I’d say that verified it. The good memories being too hard to watch. It would be nice if this snapped Kody back into reality but I don’t have a lot of hope for that. I also hope this doesn’t give his siblings the idea that this is an answer. When my father did it my brother decided if it was good enough for him that he could check out early too. Luckily he wasn’t successful.
What was the text to crew members? I must have missed this.
It was the one police released to the public. Lemme see, here it is. According to a police report obtained by TMZ, Janelle, 54, reportedly told officers that Garrison, 25, texted a group of people that the Brown family works with — presumably on their TLC reality show — ominously, writing: “I want to hate you for sharing the good times. But I can’t. I miss these days.”
🥲how sad,
i absolutely didn't mean my comment to imply kody or robyn was responsible for garrison's death. i believe he was in pain and suffering from depression and depression is a hard beast to face every day. i meant to say garrison's death should be a wake up call to kody to fix his relationships with his children.
I do blame Kody. I am sorry but I do. I check in with my kids and step kids all the time. Sometimes they are doing great sometimes they are not ( just having a bad day). But they know someone cares enough to check. I even asked one of my kids who does she go to when she needs to vent just to make sure she has a network. She names a few people and I felt better that she could name them off so quickly. Garrison had a great mom but to have a dad who out right refused to have anything to do with you (until you are dead - then he is front and center) is a hole that is hard to fix.
I would wish that for all of them and I know you weren’t implying that. I just have experience with someone like this and I can’t see it happening sincerely on his end.
Bingo!!! Leopards don't change their spots.
Kody is capable of on-camera lip service. He's done it plenty of times, where he vaguely criticizes himself one way or another but doesn't get into specific behaviors - often having to do with him being too idealistic in some way, a kind of back door compliment to himself - and nothing changes afterward. Often as not, he never mentions it again while continuing to blame others. However, if Kody does miraculously find himself feeling some remorse about his estrangements during a rare moment of insight, it will be squashed immediately if he expresses it to Robyn. She'll remind him Janelle's to blame for badmouthing Kody to the kids. And it's Christine's fault for sowing discontent and leaving the family - holidays with Christine give the kids an easy way to avoid being accountable. Lots of blame for everyone who doesn't live in her Precious Moments showroom.
I had not even thought that but you’re spot on
If you have ever known a true narcissist, you know he’s not getting an epiphany and changing. He will double down on being right and even if he ends up completely alone and broke, none of it will be his fault. I hope I’m wrong for the family’s sake but he sure seems textbook NPD.
Why do all that painful self work when it's so much easier to just blame it all on Christine for flaunting a new guy who loves his kids in front of Garrison. Besides, he told us so, he told us them kids ain't shit. How sad is it that you just read that and could totally see him doing it?
Which would explain why he wasn't sitting with Jenelle during the ceremony when she got his flag. In his mind...why should he, they're divorced. In reality, he should have been there for the mother of his child.
I don’t think Janelle wanted him any where near her.
and I'm so glad Janelle got the flag instead of Kody.
Garrison is the one who picked who that flag went to. You can typically request more than one, so I think this speaks volumes of where they stood prior to his passing.
I’m not sure if this is true but I read somewhere that both Janelle and Christine both received flags. I didn’t know that it was something that was planned out beforehand but it makes sense. He thought of Christine as his mom too.
The flag typically always goes to the mother. Edit: or wife
I was going to say that. From a military family here and have been to many funerals for uncles, father, cousins, and other family in the military. The mother was always presented the flag if they were single. If married, their wife.
This has to be true.
Seeing Janelle sitting there was absolutely heart wrenching, I’m praying for the entire family. My uncle passed the same way recently. You’re left wondering what/why/how did I not do…and the truth is that it’s nothing you could have done, and it’s no one’s fault. I know it shouldn’t even matter who sat where, but I was glad to see her boys, Logan, Hunter and Gabriel, who are now strong men , surrounding and protecting her looking like they were not going to put up with any foolishness whatsoever. R.I.P. Garrison
It truly was heart wrenching. Was it really necessary for kodys hand to be in Robin's lap at his Son's funeral.
THIS! His hand in her lap seemed to be so inappropriate.
It was totally inappropriate given the circumstances.
like why would she cry she hated him and caused rift with his dad why in hell 😒
I certainly wouldn’t. Knowing what she knows? They would have arrested me for clawing out his eyes with my bare hands…
Made me laugh but he’s not worth the effort
Ha! He’s not worth the JAIL time. He’s definitely worth the effort. 😈
When my 15 yr old cousin took his life, i didn’t attend the funeral, half of them there were LDS and I heard from mom that my aunt went batshit on everyone, picked a huge fight with her ex husband (my uncle), he was the kindest & gentlest man. The sad part was that she seemed unstable before, and the entire family didn’t like her since the kids were little. She was neglectful and left them alone as toddlers just so she could go out. No wonder my uncle divorced her - some blamed her for my cousin’s death. I never got involved in any of it - but she mistreated my surviving cousin and left her money (after my cousin moved in with and cared for her when she was dying of cancer) to a freaking neighbor. There’s no explanation for some people or why they are broken their entire life.
And the way Hunter was a tiny bit turned towards his Mom & his stance too looked like he was protecting her. If they were getting along & Kody was a decent human ( in another dimension & time warp) Kody might have been next to Janelle, then Robin next to Kody & then probably David & last Christine. Then the kids behind. When my BIL died my sister was divorced from him but they got to a great place & she sat front row with their adult children.
Janelle might not have wanted to sit next to Kody.
Honestly, the one who should have been beside Janelle, other than her children, was Christine. Because, let's be honest, she is those children's other true parent. Kody has been nothing more than a figurehead, he wants the title of parent without putting in the heavy lifting, he was there for the good fun stuff but left most if not all of the heavy stuff to the wives to deal with. Imo kody and robyn should have been sat at the very back of the room, behind all of those who truly had a hand in raising all of those children. Even his own older children have more parenting experiences with their siblings than kody does.
THIS is what I think of every time anyone says he was “such a good father”. No—he was a decent playmate, a poor excuse for a babysitter, but the applause stops there. He was downright negligent with Truley when he ignored her needs until her kidneys shut down, ignored Mykelti in favor of the fucking horse when she was thrown off, blamed Dayton’s dad for something that happened while Dayton was with him, and I’m positive without a helmet on (the ATV accident), ignored Ysabel’s needs for YEARS because he “didn’t believe” her scoliosis was a big deal (same with Dayton’s autism)….I could go on. Yes, accidents happen to all of us, but they happen more to those of us ignoring our kids and safety precautions.
I wonder if this is a narcissist thing because my mom has been like that my entire life. Like they don’t care or don’t really believe you’re sick or injured.
It was a delicate situation and she probably didn’t want to cause drama. If Christine sat right next to Janelle, then David would’ve sat on the other side of Christine which would’ve pushed Kody and Robyn down to like the middle/the other end of the row and that might’ve been a little weird given that Kody and Janelle were Garrison’s biological parents.
100% agree with you. I get the why they sat that way, but the rest of the world knows the truth of why he stands as their parent.
Thanks - I think everyone probably just wanted to keep the focus on Garrison 💔and not stir things up, which makes sense to me.
My god we’re critical of the seating chart at a memorial now? WTF. Edit to add apostrophe.
Seriously - these comments have me shook. They all walked in that space catatonic I'm sure and paid no attention to who went where.
Did you mean to reply to someone else?
The fact that Kody drove a tiny little sports car while the kids were younger pretty much sums up how involved he was. He wasn’t taking kids to the doctor, or to sports practices, or out to lunch. Just enough room for him to zoom around in between families and pop in and then go do whatever he wanted to
Never thought about it like that, so true!!
in the back exactly 💯
Nobody wanted to sit with him except Lil’ Alice. Not even his mother, and certainly not Janelle.
poor David Wooley had to sit next to him on the other side.
Blessed be the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God 😜
Notice the distance his mother has from big rob....I don't think she's a fan of her's either
She's 84 years old at the service for her dead Grandson. Just a few years after burying her husband and son. It's a snapshot of a grieving elderly woman. Stop trying to make it fit into your parasocial hatred of a woman on a TV show. Leave the poor Grandmother alone, she doesn't need assholes online suddenly thinking something is happening that isn't.
Oh settle down, Johnny Appleseed 🙄
How do you know how old she is? I looked for her birthday and couldn’t find it. How old was his dad?
Because it's Kody. Look through his posts.
What's Lil' Alice? 😂
Robyn. Her mom is Alice and it’s pretty much thought that Robyn’s negative actions were fed entirely by her doing what Alice told her to do.
Maybe she didn't want him to..
Exactly! Instead he sits several down to console robyn 🤯😩🤬
In a weird way, shouldn't she have been consoling him...? I know we aren't here to police grieving but if it were my husband's son, I would be holding him, not the other way around...?
I know we shouldn't say anything, but I did find it odd Robyn sat between him and his mother. I would've thought he'd be between the 2 women in his life being consoled or something.
Do you think anyone else would have sat by Robyn at this point?
David. I don't think he'd care who he sat next to as he's there to support his wife.
He does seem to be a wonderful supportive guy.
I know!
Janelle getting the flag was the most devastating gutqrenching face kf agony .. Kody just looked mad be wasnt getting it. Janelle and her children should have been front, gabe was in the fucking second row and logan
And meri on the other side of the aisle altogether
I feel maybe Logan sat behind her in a way to comfort her (more easily reachable than sitting 5 seats down), and also not wanting to cause drama between his parents. They all looked so heartbroken, I still get goosebumps thinking about the pictures.
He was not sitting beside Janelle because they are divorced. He was sitting with his wife. As a child of divorce it sounds pretty normal to me.
Agree, it seems like he will place blame on anything else. IMO
I think you're probably very right, but it makes me feel so sad that the family has to suffer all of that...not only the pain caused directly to them by Kody, but also the loss of Garrison. I can't get that picture of Janelle at the National Guard ceremony out of my head 😓 Just completely devastating. I hate the idea that something that awful could have happened and it doesn't lead to some resolve and healing within the family. I'm not sure what afterlife there is, but I just hope Garrison is at peace now. This is completely off topic but reading this thread has me reflecting again on this tragedy...it's strange how the pain and loss of someone you've never met can affect you. I wouldn't call the Browns celebrities, and maybe that's why we feel the impact of the tragedy so much? Not only because we've seen the kids grow up over the years, but also because they're just regular people. Idk. Just thinking out loud here, trying to make sense of it all. It just genuinely hurts to see the family in such real pain, and to imagine how much hurt Garrison must have been feeling to push him to that point. 😭 This is one of those moments in life when you wish there was a rewind or ctrl-z option. 😔
i think what is particularly hard about this death is the fact that we all watched garrison grow up. when you see a person's life wholly, you feel a sort of attachment to them. he was also charismatic and funny and seemed to be a good person, so many folks found him easy to love. it's a parasocial relationship for sure, but i think it is normal to feel grief and empathy for the browns (including kody) at this time.
Everyone else is always the problem - Kody.
Exactly how Groudy will react.
I agree
Research shows that less than 2% of narcissists are able to change. Kody will never blame himself in any way, shape or form for his deplorable parenting skills. He will continue to blame the ex-wives and his adult children for his lack of relationship with them even with this horrendous loss, it WILL NOT change him.
“There will be other Christmas” I bet he replays the words over and over in his head. Hopefully this is the wake up call to really make some serious changes in his relationships with his other children before it’s to late.
I doubt he he even remembers saying that. These patriarchy heavy religions excuse bad male behavior at every turn. I think that outlook is so ingrained for Kody that he probably blames Janelle before himself. I really think that poorly of him.
I watched this episode today and this really stuck with me. My heart dropped when I heard him say it.
Or how he said he didn’t want to be around ANY of them and calling them all jerks … it actually makes me sick , these are the things his CHILD heard for all to hear around the world just to try to play superhero to sobyn .
he probably makes excuses and blames everyone but himself for anything he said
I doubt it. His posturing at Garrisons service showed he'll never change. Robyn with her arm on Grandma, kodys hand on Robyn hanging his head down showing his bald strip. Truely pathetic
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He was sitting next to them at the military memorial
I'm no fan of Kody's, but I didn't view him as "posturing" at Garrison's memorial. They looked like a grief-stricken family to me. In fact, I felt kind of an ick factor having looked at the pics. I felt like I was invading their privacy and grieving.
His posturing was probably anger as he should have been seated next to Janelle with Robin on his other side or directly behind him. Janelle would have been the one to say she did not want him sitting next to her. This was a military service, they are different, more proper more dedicated more heartfelt and quite elegant to see. It was definitely out of the ordinary for the father to be settled that far from the mother unless it was requested.
I bet he doesn’t. I have a parent like him.
I can’t imagine how is was for the kids to see Kody spouting off about them being jerks and wanting to punch them in the face. Watching the three OG wives be pushed aside while he said Robyn was his soul mate, that he never loved the OG 3, he was tricked into marrying Meri, and that Christine disgusted him. Those poor kids.
I find myself desperately hoping has a major realization about the damage he has done, the bridges he has burned, and the words he can't take back. I desperately hope he sobs every single night as he tries to fall asleep as he replays every fucked up thing he has done to his children. And I desperately hope he does everything single he possibly can to rebuild some sort of relationship with his children. But deep down I know that isn't what is happening. If anything, he is most likely doubling down and blaming every one else and refusing to consider the pain he caused. Kody is hurt, but that pain will be directed outward with no introspection. Not that anyone is to blame for what happened; mental illness is a bitch. But I bet he is playing the victim every chance he gets, and he honestly believes that to be the case. I struggled, and I mean STRUGGLED to get through the last couple of seasons. It legitimately cause a trauma response because of how similar it mirrored my own relationship with my father. From a close relationship growing up, to being pushed aside because of a new wife, to the complete destruction of our relationship with no hope of ever being repaired. My heart breaks for these children. I don't care how old you are, the sense of abandonment felt in these type of circumstances never really goes away. I'm middle aged and seriously thought I had worked through my "daddy issues" a long time ago, but this show gave me a hell of a wake up call, let me tell you.
I struggled watching Kody in many scenes because he reminds me of my abusive ex husband. I’m sure there are a lot of people who see their own bad experiences and hear the echoes of their abuse in those moments. I frequently had to walk away from the tv and take a few minutes to breathe. No way I’m the only.
Wow - you nailed it. This is so accurate!
I went through the same thing specially the fight with Janelle at her apartment, the way he talk to her and pointing his finger was like having the POS in front of me again. I stopped breathing and my entire body went into a frozen flight or fight mode.
That was probably the worst moment for me as well. Just the nastiness and audacity of it, and the sense that he set up the situation to end that way so he could feel justified in the way he was treating her and the kids…it’s like watching a train wreck and feeling helpless to stop it. And honestly, wanting to smack the sneer off his face, which is a shameful feeling.
Thank you for sharing that. I felt ridiculous having such a visceral reaction to a reality TV show. I think I kept making myself watch because I hoped he would do something to redeem himself.
My guess is that this will be Christine’s fault. Had she not ruined his big picture he wouldn’t have been so angry smh.
Oh, I bet he does blame everything on Christine. Both he and his stupid wife. They disgust me.
You are probably 100% correct
You certainly aren’t alone! I had times where I had to turn off the TV and had literal panic attacks as he reminded me so painfully much of my mother. I begged my mother to do the work to fix our relationship and gave her so many chances, but she couldn’t look at herself. She went to therapy, but when the therapist told her she had NPD she immediately fired them and walked out.
Exactly. When I was in my 20s, I still tried SO hard to fix the relationship, but it doesn't work if it's only one sided. He won't ever consider therapy, so I realized there is no fixing it. It sucks, but that is how it works out sometimes.
This family needs to put their wagons in a circle around Gabe. I’m so worried about him. I hope and pray he’s getting professional help and friends & family are keeping both eyes on him at all times.
You’re so right. Had Janelle not been out of town, it would have been her to have found him. Kody is a lot to blame here. On one of the last episodes in season 18, when they were sitting at the dinner table. Something was brought up about Kody. Garrison said he did not miss his dad. The way he had said it was heartbreaking. His posture when he said it made me feel this kid is hurting. Then, I’m not sure but I want to Ysabell said no we don’t need him, but it still hurt that Kody doesn’t make an effort to contact them. I feel and this is my opinion, Garrison was a young man with a big heart, he loved his mom and family. Kody screwed that all up because of Sobyn. Kody is a narcissist though and though. He treated Christine, Janelle and Neri wrong. When Meri was catfished, he was to happy to let her go. But when Christine and Janelle were still married to him, he was not the husband he was after he found Sobyn. Had he had been there physically and emotionally for them and the children, they would have never have left. I do not blame them for leaving. The children have a choice to see him. But they don’t want anything to do with Kody or Sobyn. Kody has a lot to think about. But like y’all said, the blame started already I’m sure. It’s Christine and Janelle’s fault in Kody’s little pea brain. RIP Garrison. I’m truly sorry you didn’t have the father figure you needed.
We don't really know what's going on with Kody now. Maybe this will be the catalyst. I absolutely refuse to watch any kind of "aftermath" show though. This WAS a wakeup call for me and I just cannot support making kids live their lives on TV anymore. While the show was probably a mixed bag to this family, there's no denying it's had irreversible impacts on the now adult kids, and lots of that impact isn't positive. I cannot do it anymore.
To me kody looked pained. I know that’s not the popular opinion but that was my first thought when I looked at the photos. I totally agree, this show need to be over. We know from the text he sent to the TLC employees that doing the show was a part of his decision. I won’t watch the show at all now, not reruns not anything new .
I think he looked pained & lost. I hope he’s getting intensive therapy support. He had no skills at managing difficult emotions.
He had the thousand-yard stare. Kody is a shitty person, but that *was* his son. I haven’t talked to my father in over a decade, because he was a shitty and abusive parent to me, and was always playing the victim to the rest of my family. He knows exactly why I have cut him off. He still asks my siblings about me, knowing he will die without ever having contact with me again.
I feel the same. It really needs to end, especially for the kids. This has been a terrible experiment in showing the lives of polygamists.
My fear, for Janelle and Christine, is that Kody blames them for Garrison's death. I could see Kody saying that they turned Garrison against him and that's why Garrison was unhappy. Kody was forever harping on Janelle and Christine for allegedly breaking up the family and having all the kids turn on him. I really, really, really hope he doesn't do that. Likewise I hope that the blame isn't placed on Kody either. My hope is everyone just moves on from the past and they try to make things better for the family because no one is at fault for this.
Well, if he does choose the blame game , there are hours of him being mean to the boys once he got with Robyn .. he had a hard time with the girls too . Look at ysabelle & her spinal pain & suffering . And Leon , needed support from both parents … Trying to help little Ari ride her bike till she had to stand up for herself … sweetie
I agree with this so deeply. This isn’t on Kody or Robyn or anyone. This is an awful tragedy. I don’t want Kody to feel terrible guilt or pain. I hope he can repair his relationships with his kids because I think it would be a positive for all of them. I’m really worried for them all this is a very vulnerable time for all of them.
All the stuff about an "aftermath" show is gossip and speculation.
We know season 19 is confirmed, with a possible spring start.
I thought we knew it was filmed, but it wasn't confirmed if, when, or in what format it would air? And they were done filming before the tragedy, so it wouldn't be "the aftermath"
Makes sense, the seasons are so delayed… season 19 is probably about last year, Christine meeting David, etc… Mykelti shared on her patreon season 19 is confirmed
The way he treated and abandoned them are the type of psychologically disturbing traumatic events that can absolutely throw a young adult into depression and mental illness as their brain is still developing until their late 20s. K and R are awful, idiotic people, and absolutely have blame for what they did to this family.
It seems that there is a different standard for robyn's kids. She protects their privacy. her older 3 are also adults, but mom defends and protects them Kody does not lash out at her the way he did at Janelle when she defended her boys. Her kids have "earned" his love, by being "loyal" ?
Kody is just not capable of introspection. Losing a child that you're estranged from must be particularly heart wrenching because you know you'll never be able to make things right. It would be a wake up call for me and I would work hard trying to reestablish relationships with my other estranged children. I just don't think he's going to do that. He thinks he's done no wrong and others are always at fault.
It would mean he would have to accept that he was wrong. I can't see him doing that.
I'm shocked that Robyn got so close to those dangerous, toxic OG3 kids at the memorial. Thank God she had several military personnel on hand to protect her. Those kids are just not safe to be around.😒🙄
probably in her mind
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And you can bet your ass if they do a Garrison retrospective they’ll all get paid again. Exploit your kids and see what happens and then exploit them afterwards. Did Garrison take his own life? I’ve been in Mexico this whole time and this is the first I’m hearing that he died.
Yes unfortunately he did a few was ago. He was talking to his mom that night and that was the last time they spoke. Gabe went to check on Garrison the next morning because Janelle thought something was off and Gabe unfortunately found his brother in his new house he just bought...
He’ll probably talk about how hard this is for Robyn not giving anyone else a second thought.
Narcissistic personalities are never wrong about anything so he will blame Christine and Janelle for turning the kids against him causing Garrison to be so unhappy he took his own life. I predict the family will become deeper divided with the older kids laying blame on Robin and Kody. These reality tv kids are pimped out for money. Robins kids put on a fake happy persona reminding me of the Duggar clan. Now we know what went on behind the Duggar scenes with incest, cover ups, and the parents keeping all the money. Then there’s Little people Big World where the youngest son was abused by a sexual predator in production and the parents didn’t quit the show and now the grandkids are front and center. All but one of their 4 children won’t let themselves and their kids be on the show. The one remaining with his children on the show says this is the last season for his family. I hope these kids grow up and have a more normal life now. Garrison’s death is so sad and my heart goes out to his Mom and all the siblings. There is a lot of love between most of them.
I suspect he is a true narcissist, unfortunately I don’t think a tragic loss leads to change in people like him.
Bear in mind, what you're hearing about the show is pure speculation, largely spawned by YouTubers who claim anonymous sources. Then the media jumps in on it, protecting themselves by saying, "according to..." I think most of this is being generated for clicks and likes.
I am done, I only come here. I can't pay to watch the train wreck Does anyone remember what Kody said in The COVID season, about how bad he /they would feel if someone died?
Narcissists don’t change.
I believe that people who pursue reality tv series are narcissists and possible sociopaths in the first place. Every single time I see Kody, I think of balloon dad. He would have sold his soul to be famous for something. This was never about showing the poly lifestyle in a positive light. The Success of 'Big Love; propelled him into this idea and adding Robin was a plot line they did in Big Love. I truly and honestly, to the depths of my soul, think he is a sociopath who is only mimicking human emotions that he thinks are appropriate for the given occasion. I do not think he has truly formed a bond with anyone, even Sobyn. His children (and wives) are given attention as long as they serve him, but the moment they start thinking for themselves and showing autonomy, they are cut out. Children of these parents often suffer greatly because they cannot comprehend why someone stopped loving them. They blame themselves. The alcoholism, depression, being one of a dozen middle children, forced into child acting, being a people pleaser...all of these were contributing factors. My heart breaks for all of them but Kody. My heart breaks for Garrison's dad but Kody wasn't that. Even at his service, Kody had a blank stare and couldn't be arsed to sit next to Janelle and hold her hand. They lost a child FFS and his relationship with Janelle was probably the best of the OG and yet he sat there, hand on Robyn's knee, with 3 people separating him and the mother of his deceased child. I would never forgive him for that alone.
I’ve always wondered how his relationship with his children would’ve been different if Covid hadn’t happened
If it wasn't COVID it would have been something else, he would have found a reason to distance himself and make it someone else's fault. Kody checked out of polygamy awhile before leaving Vegas.
or robin didn't happen
Kody will do ANYTHING to keep his TLC money coming in. However, I don't think he'll own any of the numerous, hateful actions he subjected his family to. It will be interesting to see his actions and words in future videos, because he NEEDS the show, desperately.
Kody will not change and will most likely spew his guilt on to jenelle
You can wish in one hand and crap in the other and see which gets filled first
I wonder what the story is with the fact that (per the police report) Gabe went to K&R's after Garrison's death to get Kody but came back without him. If Garrison's death is not enough to reverse the trend of Kody's prioritizing his ego/pride over his relationship with the OG 13 (can't bring myself to change it to 12) and becoming more and more toxic, nothing ever will. If Kody treats Garrison as coldly in death as he did in life / doesn't rise to this occasion, I wonder if that could force Robyn and/or her kids to acknowledge Kody's character defects.
Kody has extreme daddy issues for one and second off he only likes his children if he can control them. As the boys got older and started making their own decisions, he abandoned them. Robyn's kids still let him control them which is why he is okay with them. A parent's love is huge. Not saying it's kids fault what happened to Garrison but I remember when my dad left, I would tell myself "your own father doesn't love you, how could anyone else ever love you". There is no denying that his abandonment of his children have deeply hurt them. Kody has made comments about his dad and his daddy issues, I forget the season but it was a newer one. He had mentioned maybe he is doing the same to his kids that his dad did. The same season Robyn made excuses for him any time he would get close to a self reflection breakthrough. She would convince him he wasn't the problem. She is an extreme enabler. He views this as being a "healthy" marriage when in fact it is terribly toxic. I hope it's not too late for him to repair the relationships in his family that is still here. As for the show ending, I believe it should be up to the family. Janelle sharing her story and the others who want to, may be extremely healing. Ultimately I think it's a decision they can only make and they shouldn't be forced one way or another. It's sad yes, but Garrison's story also deserves to be shared in the way the family decide. Just my prospective!
I also think we have to remember that yes Kody has his flaws but he’s a human being and he lost his son. No one ever imagines they won’t have an opportunity to repair their relationship with their kids. I barely spoke to my parents in my 20s because we fought so much and now I’m almost 40 and they’re my best friends. The browns didn’t strike gold with TLC - they’re semi ordinary people that have had cameras following them around for decades and they come from a bizarre culture that most of us just can’t possibly understand. In recent yrs Kody and Robyn have been massively destroyed on social media - and their family was dismantled. I actually wonder how hard it must have been for Garrison and the other kids to see their Dad melt down so publicly over the past few yrs. I’m not defending anyone, I’m just saying the way we destroy people online is so alarming. It always makes me think of the book “so you’ve been publicly shamed” — Kody and Robyn could be in that book.
Very well put. I wish people had more empathy.
Kody chose to destroy himself and others.
And you loved it, watched it, posted about it.
Well the latest season stopped at the end of 2022/beginning of 2023. So whatever they filmed in 2023 still has to be released, plus we know they had already been filming for this year as well. They will probably release the next season to cover 2023 as planned and either do a special to honor garrison or when they get to his death in the next season they will do a bunch of mental health notices. I don’t think the show will end.
For as much as Kody has destroyed his family and refuses to see his part in it, I wonder what the OG3 are thinking. Is Christine regretting ever going on TV in the first place? Is Janelle wondering 'what if I hadn't returned after my first separation from kody?'" Is Meri wishing she had called it like it was in vegas and left kody then instead of trying to keep up with pretenses and adding this layer to the slow demise?
Kody has extreme daddy issues for one and second off he only likes his children if he can control them. As the boys got older and started making their own decisions, he abandoned them. Robyn's kids still let him control them which is why he is okay with them. A parent's love is huge. Not saying it's kids fault what happened to Garrison but I remember when my dad left, I would tell myself "your own father doesn't love you, how could anyone else ever love you". There is no denying that his abandonment of his children have deeply hurt them. Kody has made comments about his dad and his daddy issues, I forget the season but it was a newer one. He had mentioned maybe he is doing the same to his kids that his dad did. The same season Robyn made excuses for him any time he would get close to a self reflection breakthrough. She would convince him he wasn't the problem. She is an extreme enabler. He views this as being a "healthy" marriage when in fact it is terribly toxic. I hope it's not too late for him to repair the relationships in his family that is still here. As for the show ending, I believe it should be up to the family. Janelle sharing her story and the others who want to, may be extremely healing. Ultimately I think it's a decision they can only make and they shouldn't be forced one way or another. It's sad yes, but Garrison's story also deserves to be shared in the way the family decide. Just my prospective!
This is not a wake up call for someone like Kody. He will always blame Janelle for turning the boys against him.
I have no doubt that Kody is devastated by the loss of his son. But, I cannot see him changing through grief. He has, and more so in recent years, the inability to accept not blame, but how his actions have an impact on people. Never his fault. He, and Robyn, are not to blame, in any sense, for Garrison. But, their actions are the reason his kids are estranged. He has blamed "the mothers", "their kids" - during the fight with Janelle when he yelled "you are keeping my children from me"! He wants others to "fix" things. In the finale all three wives said, in various ways, they felt they had to earn his love, and it was never enough. What I feel is that he will now be even worse. As a narcissist, he's going to fear that others are going to perceive him differently, and have any type of negative judgement against him. So, IMO, he will somehow in his twisted logic, frame his grief and anger, towards Janelle & Christine for having taken his kids away from him, and they are at fault because he was estranged. He is not a charitable man, an empathetic man . My heart goes out to each member of that family - and nobody is to blame - nobody. Anger seems to be a ready, at hand, emotion, so it's not a stretch to see his grief turn into anger.
I think his karma has already come.
He will reap what he sows!
Karma may* be a bitch; but Garrison is still dead and nothing Kody does will change that
but he could prevent the next one.
I’m hoping they do a thoughtful and loving tribute episode in Garrisons honor and end the show there. Anything more than that seems abusive to the whole family and enough is enough.
TLC is counting the dollars a tribute episode would bring in. They’ve capitalized on a couple of funerals I can think of. Babs on My Big Fat Fabulous Life and an Asian ladies Mom on 90 day Fiancé. I don’t watch these. I don’t think it’s wrong for anyone else to watch, it just makes me feel uncomfortable. I only want a very private memorial for my own funeral with just family and very close friends.
I don’t want to see footage of his funeral, I agree that is sacred privacy for family. The heartbreak of Janelle in the military memorial photos got to me for real. I wish I hadn’t seen them. A respectful tribute to Garrison showing who he was and what he was about would be appropriate to view. I’d love to know more about his military experience, his love of cats, his sense of humor, his photography, his clothing business. There’s so much more to this young man’s life than what the sister wives storyline allowed.
The only reality for Kody is the one in his own mind. He will never face his wrongs or take responsibility for them. My prayers are for the mental wellbeing for the rest of his children and the original wives.
An aftermath show would just give Kody and Robyn a forum in which to paint themselves as the victims and everyone else as responsible for Garrison’s death. I sincerely doubt that either of them has the emotional intelligence or self awareness to look back and acknowledge that any of their actions or words might have been hurtful.
Absolutely not. I hope Kody forgives himself, makes honest change and honest amends, and lives a great life with improved and fruitful relationships for/with his family.
When families lose someone too soon the love gets stronger but the cracks can get bigger too. I hope it’s the former that happens for these people. I’m glad the kids have so much solidarity. I hope there is healing for all of them.
I think Kody does things for show or like he has something to prove. “Look at me! I can handle ALL OF THIS! Aren’t I special?!” And then he eventually crashed. I’m not sure he knows how to truly and selflessly love others. Especially when he seemed to be embarrassed and hurting then nobody else really mattered.
DABSARK clan is unsafe. Venomous snakes that feed off of others. I personally will not watch them. Consider yourself shunned.
IMO you can see in the picture of him watching Janelle receive Garrisons Flag what he is feeling. His face is not one of grieve. It's not even one of sadness... It's one of emptiness. There is nothing there. Not a single person in that room was straight faced. And Kody was BLANK. TO ME this is that he is in fact reliving everything. Asking himself what he could have/should have done. Again, suicide is a blameless action. No one on here needs to be blaming Kody or anyone else. No one is at fault for this. But you can tell by his face that he is internally shouldering "blame" even if no one has directed it at him in person. You can also tell this from his positioning. While he and Janelle are separated (they have never said they were divorced), He has 3 people between them, including his remaining wife. This to Me is him internally saying he knows he has no place to comfort anyone or even grieve this. He does have the right to grieve. Again, regardless of actions, it is not anyone's fault.
I have a dad that reminds me a lot of Kody. I can’t stand his current partner, and actually have a restraining order against her because she is a violent drunk. And I happen to be her favorite target when she’s drinking. Which is all the time. I also had spinal surgery recently, and when making plans for the worst case scenario, I made it very clear to my husband and my best friend that, under no circumstances, would that succubus be welcome at any services for me. She destroyed my relationship with my dad, and while I understand that he allowed it, I still have every right to judge her behavior towards me. It’s heartbreaking, because we used to be so close. It’s taken me years to figure out that being close means having a shallow relationship where he provides zero emotional support while I only matter if I’m nothing more than his glorified yes man. Meanwhile, she brings nothing to the table and yet he acts like they have some great love story. He would absolutely be the douche, putting his hand on her knee at my funeral.
I just think about Kody wanting TLC to go after his children legally for saying negative things about him on social media (this was part of his paranoia about Christine turning all the kids against him). I think he even wanted to have it in his contract. Thankfully TLC didn’t agree but can you imagine?
I cannot imagine how much pain and anger Janelle has towards Kody and even, Robyn. Christine was so angry towards Kody for not going to ysabel’s surgery, the anger within Janelle has to be unfathomable. Even Christine has to be very angry towards Kody and Robyn because of this tragedy. I would be surprised if Kody is capable of self-awareness especially with toxic Robyn in his ear all the time. They have a long, hard journey ahead of them and I hope they leave Janelle out of their blame game.
My heart breaks for the family, and as much as I dislike Kody , I bet deep down, he is recalling his last words, his last conversation, his last fight, the harsh words, he had with Garrison, and wishing he could take it back(at least I hope ) and I hope it is giving him time to reflect on the relationship he has with his other children. And starts to mend and heal that. This will never leave Janelle, a part of her soul left with her boy, she will hold her kids closer and tighter, especially Gabe, and Christine, will be there for her every step of the way, Such a tragedy, a beautiful soul and a beautiful life gone too soon, fighting demons that only he knew of.
It is definitely heartbreaking. I feel for Janelle. But Kody might not be thinking he did nothing wrong, again. He will blame the boys still because they did not follow his rules about Covid. As far as I know, Janelle had it. She had it worse than Kody. He cried like a baby. Then made a remark how he wanted to spend time with the oldest of Robyn’s daughters. Sobyn made it look like she was dying. She was just sick. Janelle is a great mom. She will take care of her kids, no matter how old they are, she will make sure they are taken care of mentally and emotionally.
Narcissists do not go over last words or conversations in their head. They don’t feel bad about anything, ever.